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Fighting COVID – is striving after perfection the enemy of the good? – politicalbetting.com

I live in Bedford which over the past few weeks has been singled out as a COVID hotspot and each day, later in the afternoon, I almost always check out the latest data for the borough which is all on the excellent government COVID website.
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No matter what postcode I put in, had very limited choice, either one local centre or 2+ hrs drive away.
Disadvantage of having the Bill Gates Skynet one I suppose. And suggests constrained supply, I presume because they are giving the yuff it.
In the UK, Moderna is the most uncommon of the 3 they give.
GOVERNOR
Terry McAuliffe (declared winner by AP)
215,510 61.6%
Jennifer Carroll Foy
72,616 20.7
Jennifer McClellan
39,090 11.2
Justin Fairfax
12,887 3.7
Lee Carter
9,923 2.8
Total reported
350,026
LIEUTENANT GOV
Hala Ayala
126,654 38.8%
Sam Rasoul
82,484 25.3
Andria McClellan
37,833 11.6
Total reported
326,515
ATTORNEY GENERAL
Mark Herring (incumbent; declared winner by AP)
188,394 55.0%
Jay Jones
153,982 45.0
Total reported
342,376
Note that Old Dominion's only Democratic Socialist in the House of Delegates, Lee Carter of District 50 (Manassas city & Prince William County) is losing his primary tonight, with 38% of the Dem primary vote so far, versus 44% for Michelle Lopes-Maldonado and 18% for Helen Zurita
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7011e2.htm
EDIT - Just checked my own vac card, interval between #1 & #2 Pfizer = 4 weeks, 1 day
GOVERNOR
Terry McAuliffe (declared winner by AP early in the count; he's ahead in every county & independent city)
293,176 62.2%
Jennifer Carroll Foy
94,921 20.2
Jennifer McClellan
52,871 11.2
Justin Fairfax
16,634 3.5
Lee Carter
13,394 2.8
Total reported
470,996
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
Hala Ayala (declared winner by AP)
163,474 38.2%
Sam Rasoul
112,124 26.2
Mark Levine
52,141 12.2
Andria McClellan
46,638 10.9
Sean Perryman
35,995 8.4
Xavier Warren
18,053 4.2
Total reported
428,425
ATTORNEY GENERAL
Mark Herring (incumbent, declared winner by AP)
263,723 57.3%
Jay Jones
196,766 42.7
Total reported
460,489
GOVERNOR
Jack Ciattarelli (leads in every county that has so far reported unofficial results)
53,171 47.5%
Philip Rizzo
29,380 26.2
Hirsh Singh
26,082 23.3
Brian Levine
3,387 3.0
Total reported
112,020
Note - Incumbent Democratic Gov. Philip Murray's nomination for 2nd term is uncontested.
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data
https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/08/uk_gov_delays_gp_data_grab/
If the link between cases and deaths has been broken by vaccination, which it has, then we REALLY need to get on and live our lives.
Because that’s almost the whole of the problem and would I guess go a long way towards solving it. Sure, you will always have principled refusers like Dura Ace, but for nutters like Contrarian, bleating about lockdown while forcing us into more of it, need to be warned that their stupidity and selfishness has real world consequences.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57390241
We also come back to the fact that restrictions are popular, because people expect them to be imposed on others and are quite happy to break them themselves when it seems necessary.
Bolton latest figures: 745
Or look how quickly we changed our mind on Portugal, or indeed about Britain!
Half the adult population of the UK watched online pornography during the pandemic, according to a projection by Ofcom which lays bare the activities of the 26 million individuals who view adult material.
By far the most popular pornography site was PornHub, which was visited by 50% of all males and 16% of all females in the UK in September 2020 – giving the site a far larger audience than mainstream television channels such as Sky One, ITV4 and BBC News.
The figures rise substantially among younger age groups, with a third of young women and three-quarters of young men visiting PornHub in the four weeks covered by the research. Ofcom also quoted PornHub’s own claims that the average UK visitor spent 10 minutes and 20 seconds on the site – an attention time that would be envied by many mainstream outlets.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/09/europeans-confidence-in-eu-hit-by-coronavirus-response
In theory the data is anonymised, but combined with algorithms of other measures that Big Data has, it won't be for long. Supposedly this is for research, but once the data is out there, it will be of a lot of interest for marketing.
It is possible to opt out prior to the deadline, but after that deadline an opt out only covers new data.
Personally, I think such data uploads should require explicit consent. The data was collected for specific purposes and is not just an asset to be flogged off.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/judge-rules-staff-off-sick-can-visit-pubs-wgvcd8pq3
ETA there may be public health reasons why this is not such a good idea for pub staff and other customers.
Meanwhile a snippet from Lue Elizondo in the video of his latest interview with the WashPo is that China is considering raising the issue at the UN. Sure it distracts from Lab Leak. But if you’re Biden you don’t want some jumped up autocrat taking your place in the history books and that must now be a concern.
Odds of a Disclosure event this summer now better than evens I reckon.
Meanwhile all of Pb denigrates you for talking lab leak because they think it was obvious all along and/or who cares that the West’s only credible adversary deliberately seeded the world with a virus that’s killed millions.
Assuming, of course, said journalist wasn’t the source in question.
Personally I think flashing your certificate is a very very very small price to pay for the rest of the freedoms that should come with it i.e. the normalising of everything else.
Those who opposed this need to realise that the alternative is a dystopian nightmare of never-ending restriction.
You have your jabs, you show your app, bingo. Then do what you want, whenever you want, wherever you want.
It is not a very pan pandemic.....
Meghan: “you will talk to your grandmother about the name, won’t you”
Harry: “yes of course dear”
...
Baby born.
Meghan’s American friends: “the names a nice touch, did the Queen appreciate it”
Meghan “I think so, so didn’t raise any objection”
Harry: “oh sh*t, I forgot/kept putting it off”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cabinet-office-loses-battle-to-sit-on-details-of-secret-unit-8v2qbzx77 (£££)
And Good morning on a sunny morning, from a not-particularly merry OKC!
It’s surprising how much difference that single NPI can make.
Practice what you preach.
Just different principles surely? Are you sure that these two guys have fewer principles than the masses who have eagerly and meekly done what they have been told?
The issue with Contrarian (well, among many other issues) is that he says nobody should be pressured to take the vaccine and then says nobody should have to lockdown, and lectures the rest of us on how he alone is standing up for our freedoms when taking the very action that’s making it impossible to get them back.
Well, newsflash, it’s one or the other. His position is as grotesque and inconsistent as the Catholic ban on both contraception and abortion. And, further newsflash, it shows he’s not a principled person but a selfish prick (or perhaps, lack of prick
Have a good morning.
Is there anything on that is must-see at the mo?
A simple way to keep some control is to release some restrictions on 21 June, but not all of them. This will reduce the political pressure for a while. The challenge for the government is to communicate its strategy for returning to normality. Failure to explain its strategy could soon lead to serious trouble if the government is not careful.
The hard-headed answer is to wait with relaxation, in particular international travel, until the great majority of adults (and IMO children too) have been vaccinated. After a period where the authorities got serious about the situation we have relapsed into vacillation.
https://twitter.com/rolandmcs/status/1402498064418586628?s=21
It is locking down the country to prevent some people getting a ill, very few people going to hospital and recovering and nationally hundreds from dying.
It is completely out of proportion with what anyone would have argued for in 2019.
We really need as a country to start developing some perspective on this. No deaths in my area since March.
The trouble is that potentially those in the thick of it e.g. SAGE and ministers and aides have spent so long fighting covid that they now can't step back and see the wider picture.
Re contrarian, I see your point, but disagreeing with compulsion to vaccinate necessarily means more authoritarian measures. This is a political choice.
The two positions are consistent when you think about it. Libertarians like contrarian don't like state control generally, and 1) state vaccinations (which libertarians feel have become quasi-mandatory with, at least, a moral compulsion being exerted by the state) and 2) lockdowns are both examples of state control.
Contrarian has said that he is not anti-vax - libertarians such as he argue that vaccinations should be safe, entirely voluntary and a matter of personal choice. And authoritarian measures, which by definition take away personal liberty, are an abomination.
Emergency coronavirus laws are set to be extended again - leaving Scots facing the ‘nightmare’ of coronavirus curbs still being in force until at least next spring.
https://twitter.com/Mike_Blackley/status/1402515079078232068?s=20
We have done that.
There is nothing in the data that indicates the NHS is anywhere near that situation again. Even the head of NHS Providers says that is the case and we should stop listening to modellers.
Time to hold our nerve and press on.
The rationale is that it’s a major international transit hub, and it’s true that the first cases from South Africa came through Dubai.
But, they’ve done more vaccinations than just about anywhere (85% of eligible population with two jabs) and are testing more than 2-3% of the population daily. Case numbers are higher than the U.K., at an equivalent of about 13k per day, but only because they are testing so much.
They’ve just restarted a daily flight from Dubai to Heathrow, for U.K. and RoI citizens and residents who will all hotel quarantine. They’ve offered to send flights limited to those vaccinated and tested, but the U.K. govt has refused to drop the listing.
My theory, is that the Dubai holidaymakers from the U.K. in December and January caused problems with government messaging. There were lots of ‘social media’ types over here causing trouble, ignoring rules and letting their tens of thousands of ‘followers’ know they were on holiday - just as everything in the U.K. got shut down.
Oh, and you really don’t want to travel here in the summer. It’s 42° today at 10am, and so humid at that sunglasses steam up as you walk outside.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/former-snp-mp-claims-nicola-sturgeon-should-have-been-aware-of-alex-salmond-harassment-claims-in-early-2014-3266068
Lloyd Weber planning to fully open his theatre come what may.
“We will say: come to the theatre and arrest us.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/what-to-see/andrew-lloyd-webber-want-stop-theatre-have-arrest-us/
I'd say that points to the 2nd week of July.
My understanding of current data availability (ie hospital) is that it is for specific purposes, and charges relate to the cost of supply rather than sale for profit.
I'm a strong supporter of data being available for research etc, in both public and private sectors - but marketing would be a step too far.
They really need to decide what they want to do with their lives. Selling interviews about how horrible their lives were, only has so much mileage.
You make the key point - people have genuinely lost track of the rules. It doesn't matter whether we formally unlock on the 21st or not if people have already unlocked themselves. A delay will be largely ignored and the rules be unenforceable.
There does need to be some sanity and clarity on travel. Punters desperately want to go on holidays. Sorry boys and girls it isn't happening as it takes two to tango and even where its a country we think is safe the other end probably doesn't think the same about us.
Find a way to allow people with families or business to travel with logical restrictions, and tell everyone else to plan for 2022.
The good news? William could claw it back. I think he gets the balance between tradition and Woke just right.
A special circle of hell needs to be created for them.
Exile them in Middlesbrough and no NHS access for them.
These tossers are holding the country back, chuck in Boris Johnson for the fannying about he did and delaying the adding India to the red list.
What is in danger of happening is that we are in danger of using past experience of COVID to dominate future decisions, when the situation has clearly changed.
The logic being applied, is one that, if extended to anything other than COVID, would eg. result in a national lockdown every winter. Are we/is the NHS in more “trouble” now than it would experience in an average December?
And there is the point that many are making that if we are going to have an “exit wave” then better to have it in the summer, than extending into the winter.
(The porn industry hates him, and mostly films in other states now, thanks to a condom law he bought in).
A better public health response at the moment would be to tell young people they are at risk until they are vaccinated and repeat that message endlessly. Urge them to be cautious and only meet outside.