Annalena Baerbock to succeed Merkel? – politicalbetting.com
Annalena Baerbock to succeed Merkel? – politicalbetting.com
Finland has one. New Zealand has one. Is Germany about to join the list of countries with young, dynamic female premiers breathing new life into democratic politics?
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Primus inter pares.0
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No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?0
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Why? We all know nothing could beat 'The Smurfs Go Pop!'FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
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My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....1 -
Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
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I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.4 -
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/0 -
Clickbait, ignore.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
On the more important topic of best albums from the 90s, sorry to be unpatriotic but my favourite is an American one - Bat Out Of Hell II.0 -
PS Sudden thought. Your rhetoric naggingly (the memory, not the style!) reminds me of an old school colleague. Just to make sure: the words "beaver's arsehole" don't mean anything out of the ordinary to you, do they, please?Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/0 -
Clearly after long reign of Mutti, Germans have zero problem with eine Bundeskanzlerin.
Think that Greens led by Baerbock have a real fighting chance of ending up as the greasy poll of German politics, and forming the next government in coalition with ______?
My own thought is that it would likely be best for them & her to hook up with the Union.
My other thought is that die Linke is flirting with NOT making 5% nationally, though they'd still win some constituency seat IF that happens, nicht wahr?
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I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.0 -
Roxy Music, 1973, with Brian Eno in Plymouth Guild Hall.Mortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
PS Underworld (2nd Toughest In Infants) is what I still listen to from the 90s0 -
Those graphs seem to ignore the vaccination programme. Assuming max is right, and he has been mostly on the nail, by mid June we will be significantly further on with the dosing. I cannot see where there hospitalisations are going to come from. That’s been the point of most at risk first. Once again we are seeing the press/media finding stories to sell papers. And drive a narrative.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/1 -
I'm afraid that is inevitable. Stomping around with the Dilophosaurus and Stegosaurus.Gardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.
Did you ever go to see a Jimmy Savile event? And how do the juniors react?1 -
It was arguably closer to tripling. Exponential to the maxCarnyx said:
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
It is actually difficult to see how they can avoid extending lockdown. Why take the risk?
We are maybe eight weeks from near-total vaccination. What does 8 weeks of pubgoing and hotel-visiting gain us, if, by staying locked down instead, we definitely avoid another catastrophic third wave that shuts the entire country for months, and kills tens of thousands?
It will be brutally cruel for the hospitality industry - and me - but it makes ruthless sense. I can easily see them doing it.
As the Telegraph says, it is a Tough Call0 -
Ha.Carnyx said:
I'm afraid that is inevitable. Stomping around with the Dilophosaurus and Stegosaurus.Gardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.
Did you ever go to see a Jimmy Savile event? And how do the juniors react?
I grew up in NZ. We did not get Jimmy Savile.0 -
Thank goodness.Gardenwalker said:
Ha.Carnyx said:
I'm afraid that is inevitable. Stomping around with the Dilophosaurus and Stegosaurus.Gardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.
Did you ever go to see a Jimmy Savile event? And how do the juniors react?
I grew up in NZ. We did not get Jimmy Savile.0 -
The biggest problem for the government? They let it in.Leon said:
It was arguably closer to tripling. Exponential to the maxCarnyx said:
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
It is actually difficult to see how they can avoid extending lockdown. Why take the risk?
We are maybe eight weeks from near-total vaccination. What does 8 weeks of pubgoing and hotel-visiting gain us, if, by staying locked down instead, we definitely avoid another catastrophic third wave that shuts the entire country for months, and kills tens of thousands?
It will be brutally cruel for the hospitality industry - and me - but it makes ruthless sense. I can easily see them doing it.
As the Telegraph says, it is a Tough Call0 -
If you think Michael Jackson concert makes young people look at you like that try telling them you saw adam and the ants on the dirk wears white sox tour before they turned to crapGardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.1 -
Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?1 -
FPT
Damn. I almost didn't comment on this thread and not just because work has kept me busy to an unreasonable hour.
Cyclefree once again holds our hypocrisy, arrogance and delusions to the fire and my toes are burning. I really, really struggle to have sympathy with IRA bastards who murdered so many of our people or their fellow travellers. I have an instinctive sympathy for soldiers doing their job for us under enormous stress having been trained within an inch of their lives to respond extremely and disproportionately violently to any threat. I remember my late father telling me that quite a number of officers in Germany resigned their commissions, so appalled were they that the Paras had been let loose on a British street. They should never have been there, that is not what they were trained for.
I want to make excuses but I can't. If this is indeed a country that respects justice and the rule of law as opposed to being hypocritical about it we must, absolutely must, be rigorous in investigating and punishing our men when they fall below the high standards that we claim to set ourselves. I hate it but she is right. We have let ourselves down badly in investigating our dirty war (and it was a war, even although we pretended otherwise). Justice delayed is justice denied and the delays here are egregious and wrong. Bugger.
Ha, had I waited just a couple of minutes more I could have avoided posting this. Double bugger.3 -
I wouldn't mind doing it Baerbock with Annalena.
How do I tell her that, because of the unfreezing process, I have no inner-monologue...?1 -
What you are missing is musical taste possibly?rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?1 -
Without question. Nevermind changed music.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
Different Class might be the best British Album of the nineties.
Screamadelica would be up there on the list too IMO.
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The soundtrack to Trainspotting...rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?1 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarium_(Aqua_album)rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?2 -
Educate me.Pagan2 said:
What you are missing is musical taste possibly?rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?0 -
Yes. Indeedtlg86 said:
The biggest problem for the government? They let it in.Leon said:
It was arguably closer to tripling. Exponential to the maxCarnyx said:
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
It is actually difficult to see how they can avoid extending lockdown. Why take the risk?
We are maybe eight weeks from near-total vaccination. What does 8 weeks of pubgoing and hotel-visiting gain us, if, by staying locked down instead, we definitely avoid another catastrophic third wave that shuts the entire country for months, and kills tens of thousands?
It will be brutally cruel for the hospitality industry - and me - but it makes ruthless sense. I can easily see them doing it.
As the Telegraph says, it is a Tough Call
IIRC I said on this site that if Boris' "lax" attitude to the border - specifically with India in this case - led to another lockdown, I would never vote Tory again
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Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith & Devotionrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?0 -
I see Scotland has an open invitation to illegal immigrants (in general - the case of the two men involved is unknown):
https://twitter.com/PaulJSweeney/status/1392819321747951616?s=200 -
Given the suggestions so far, I am not sure you would want me to be controlling the spotify when asked for best music from the 90s.....
Of those mentioned Nirvana - Nevermind is about the only one I was listening to at that point.0 -
Automatic for the People is a lot better than Monsterrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?0 -
That's a Labour MSP and he's got it wrong.CarlottaVance said:I see Scotland has an open invitation to illegal immigrants (in general - the case of the two men involved is unknown):
https://twitter.com/PaulJSweeney/status/1392819321747951616?s=20
Police Scotland had to intervene to prevent serious problems when some HO types rocked up on the first day of Eid (and with some other political timings too, though I'm not sure they were alert enough to Scotland to realise that) to take a couple of gents away. I believe that the HO types kept them in the van for a whole day, but may be wrong.0 -
Sleeper - It Girlrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Beautiful South - Blue is the Colour & Miaow0 -
Don't know if this will impress (probably not) but yours truly once got Doc Watson do a request at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival.
He & his band were near the end of their show, when Doc asked the crowd, "What should we play now?"
People starting shouting out suggestions. I was toward the back of the throng - this was outdoors at the Fairgrounds race track - and started booming out, "TENNESSEE STUD!!"
Did this a few times. Then Doc turned to the band, and they struck up . . . Tennessee Stud.
Doc watson - Tennessee Stud (written by Jimmy Driftwood)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_1wOQnLh6A0 -
Or The Velvet Underground. Or Lynyrd Skynyrd before the plane crash.Pagan2 said:
If you think Michael Jackson concert makes young people look at you like that try telling them you saw adam and the ants on the dirk wears white sox tour before they turned to crapGardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.0 -
Paul Simon - Rhythm of the Saintsrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?0 -
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Suede - Dog Man Starrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
RHCP - Blood Sugar Sex Magik0 -
Boo Radleys - Giant StepsCharles said:
Sleeper - It Girlrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Beautiful South - Blue is the Colour & Miaow0 -
Rasputin is in the charts at no 18 right now.TimT said:
Roxy Music, 1973, with Brian Eno in Plymouth Guild Hall.Mortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
PS Underworld (2nd Toughest In Infants) is what I still listen to from the 90s0 -
So here we are. We have arrived at exactly the toughest moment of the relaxation. Cases have not even started to go up yet (perhaps just about increasing, but the bank holiday has confused things a tad). Hospitalisation down week on week, deaths lower than 10 per day. Vaccinating those 38 and 39 now. In 6 weeks we’ll be all adults first dosed. Yes there is concern about a new variant, but I strongly suspect a lot of the cases are in schools. It certainly isn’t translating into hospital cases (yet). Time to hold the nerve. The plan was to protect the most vulnerable. We have done that. Sure cases might rise among the young, but they won’t die(mostly). We are at risk of jumping at shadows.Leon said:
Yes. Indeedtlg86 said:
The biggest problem for the government? They let it in.Leon said:
It was arguably closer to tripling. Exponential to the maxCarnyx said:
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
It is actually difficult to see how they can avoid extending lockdown. Why take the risk?
We are maybe eight weeks from near-total vaccination. What does 8 weeks of pubgoing and hotel-visiting gain us, if, by staying locked down instead, we definitely avoid another catastrophic third wave that shuts the entire country for months, and kills tens of thousands?
It will be brutally cruel for the hospitality industry - and me - but it makes ruthless sense. I can easily see them doing it.
As the Telegraph says, it is a Tough Call
IIRC I said on this site that if Boris' "lax" attitude to the border - specifically with India in this case - led to another lockdown, I would never vote Tory again
I stand by that3 -
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!1 -
In the year that I was in Christchurch, I got to see a few gigs that I wouldn't have got to otherwise, including Elton John and Kiri Te Kanawa. Not many made it that far south, but when they did, you could get tickets.Gardenwalker said:
Ha.Carnyx said:
I'm afraid that is inevitable. Stomping around with the Dilophosaurus and Stegosaurus.Gardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.
Did you ever go to see a Jimmy Savile event? And how do the juniors react?
I grew up in NZ. We did not get Jimmy Savile.
My first gig was UFO at Southampton Gaumont. Heavy Metal Heaven.0 -
Sadly it contains "Everybody Hurts" and is therefore ineligible for consideration.isam said:
Automatic for the People is a lot better than Monsterrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?0 -
First step - NEVER allow her to see this post!Sunil_Prasannan said:I wouldn't mind doing it Baerbock with Annalena.
How do I tell her that, because of the unfreezing process, I have no inner-monologue...?1 -
And a massive, glaring omission:Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Verve - Bittersweet Symphony0 -
I forgot about Beautiful South, good call.Charles said:
Sleeper - It Girlrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Beautiful South - Blue is the Colour & Miaow1 -
I struggle with Belle & Sebastian. I think that I should like them but get bored after about 3 songsGardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart0 -
Oh yes. Really terrible omission from me.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith & Devotionrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?1 -
Always had a soft spot for Boney M, even though I was not into 'pop' - took my music seriously in those days.Pulpstar said:
Rasputin is in the charts at no 18 right now.TimT said:
Roxy Music, 1973, with Brian Eno in Plymouth Guild Hall.Mortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
PS Underworld (2nd Toughest In Infants) is what I still listen to from the 90s0 -
That the 80s was better than the 90srcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?2 -
Oh I forgot Buena Vista - and I was thinking about Ry Cooder albums from the 90s but all the really great stuff he did apart from BVSC was back in the 70s and early 80s.Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!0 -
I'm like that with Beck. I feel like I should like him. But he bores me senseless.Charles said:
I struggle with Belle & Sebastian. I think that I should like them but get bored after about 3 songsGardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart0 -
Possibly the most overrated album of all time.Mortimer said:
And a massive, glaring omission:Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Verve - Bittersweet Symphony1 -
Air - Moon Safari is good, but not that good.Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!
And no "best album" list should ever contain any U2.0 -
As with a man who doesn’t drink, I don’t trust people who don’t like B&S.Charles said:
I struggle with Belle & Sebastian. I think that I should like them but get bored after about 3 songsGardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart0 -
I liked Borderline a lot.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh I forgot Buena Vista - and I was thinking about Ry Cooder albums from the 90s but all the really great stuff he did apart from BVSC was back in the 70s and early 80s.Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!1 -
Very, very jealous.TimT said:
Roxy Music, 1973, with Brian Eno in Plymouth Guild Hall.Mortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
PS Underworld (2nd Toughest In Infants) is what I still listen to from the 90s1 -
Largely true.turbotubbs said:
So here we are. We have arrived at exactly the toughest moment of the relaxation. Cases have not even started to go up yet (perhaps just about increasing, but the bank holiday has confused things a tad). Hospitalisation down week on week, deaths lower than 10 per day. Vaccinating those 38 and 39 now. In 6 weeks we’ll be all adults first dosed. Yes there is concern about a new variant, but I strongly suspect a lot of the cases are in schools. It certainly isn’t translating into hospital cases (yet). Time to hold the nerve. The plan was to protect the most vulnerable. We have done that. Sure cases might rise among the young, but they won’t die(mostly). We are at risk of jumping at shadows.Leon said:
Yes. Indeedtlg86 said:
The biggest problem for the government? They let it in.Leon said:
It was arguably closer to tripling. Exponential to the maxCarnyx said:
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
It is actually difficult to see how they can avoid extending lockdown. Why take the risk?
We are maybe eight weeks from near-total vaccination. What does 8 weeks of pubgoing and hotel-visiting gain us, if, by staying locked down instead, we definitely avoid another catastrophic third wave that shuts the entire country for months, and kills tens of thousands?
It will be brutally cruel for the hospitality industry - and me - but it makes ruthless sense. I can easily see them doing it.
As the Telegraph says, it is a Tough Call
IIRC I said on this site that if Boris' "lax" attitude to the border - specifically with India in this case - led to another lockdown, I would never vote Tory again
I stand by that
But my point is more related to the psychology of those in government. How many rulers around the world have been praised for their relaxed, laissez-faire approach to the virus?
None. Not even Sweden, any more
The only governments that have prospered have been those which clamped down hard and early. NZ, Oz, East Asia, Germany (at first). The vaccine has offered a 2nd life to some, but that now risks being squandered
Given that we have stopped worrying about debt, the tendency will always be to err on the side of caution. With a new variant growing exponentially, and a "question mark" over its susceptibility to vaccines, the easy move is to keep us locked down
I imagine they are arguing this intensely, in Downing Street, right now
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I listen to music while doing other things & they aren’t good background as you need to concentrate on the droneGardenwalker said:
As with a man who doesn’t drink, I don’t trust people who don’t like B&S.Charles said:
I struggle with Belle & Sebastian. I think that I should like them but get bored after about 3 songsGardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart0 -
sighs now I have to check what was released in the 90'srcs1000 said:
Educate me.Pagan2 said:
What you are missing is musical taste possibly?rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
The colour and the shape by Foo fighters
Dookie by Green day
Good stuff by the B52's
Hitler bad vandals good by the vandals
There is nothing left to lose by Foo fighters
Throttle junkies by soil
From here to eternity live by the clash
Anything by the damned
System of a down by System of a down
Welcome to the park by Abney park0 -
Quite a claim....rcs1000 said:
Possibly the most overrated album of all time.Mortimer said:
And a massive, glaring omission:Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
My first album. Much less embarrassing than my first single (2 become 1. On tape....)0 -
Really?? One really good song on the album. I think I would go for Urban Hymns by the Verve, Bittersweet, The drugs don't work, Sonnet, it had enough good songs to top out (having discovered, to my horror, that nearly all of my favourite albums are from the 80s not the 90s)Philip_Thompson said:
Clickbait, ignore.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
On the more important topic of best albums from the 90s, sorry to be unpatriotic but my favourite is an American one - Bat Out Of Hell II.0 -
Thanks for the music reminders guys - just added a fair few to my vinyl collection.0
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And - I now realise - I need to explain this is not aimed at you, but relates to a memorable argument my colleaguer and I had in class once.Carnyx said:
PS Sudden thought. Your rhetoric naggingly (the memory, not the style!) reminds me of an old school colleague. Just to make sure: the words "beaver's arsehole" don't mean anything out of the ordinary to you, do they, please?Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/0 -
I can admit I guess to having seen mungo jerry liveTimT said:
Or The Velvet Underground. Or Lynyrd Skynyrd before the plane crash.Pagan2 said:
If you think Michael Jackson concert makes young people look at you like that try telling them you saw adam and the ants on the dirk wears white sox tour before they turned to crapGardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.0 -
I totally understand your point, but I also think they fear the reaction were they to delay pub and hug day. I don’t think they will, rather they will pour resource (tests and vaccines) into the dodgiest areas.Leon said:
Largely true.turbotubbs said:
So here we are. We have arrived at exactly the toughest moment of the relaxation. Cases have not even started to go up yet (perhaps just about increasing, but the bank holiday has confused things a tad). Hospitalisation down week on week, deaths lower than 10 per day. Vaccinating those 38 and 39 now. In 6 weeks we’ll be all adults first dosed. Yes there is concern about a new variant, but I strongly suspect a lot of the cases are in schools. It certainly isn’t translating into hospital cases (yet). Time to hold the nerve. The plan was to protect the most vulnerable. We have done that. Sure cases might rise among the young, but they won’t die(mostly). We are at risk of jumping at shadows.Leon said:
Yes. Indeedtlg86 said:
The biggest problem for the government? They let it in.Leon said:
It was arguably closer to tripling. Exponential to the maxCarnyx said:
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
It is actually difficult to see how they can avoid extending lockdown. Why take the risk?
We are maybe eight weeks from near-total vaccination. What does 8 weeks of pubgoing and hotel-visiting gain us, if, by staying locked down instead, we definitely avoid another catastrophic third wave that shuts the entire country for months, and kills tens of thousands?
It will be brutally cruel for the hospitality industry - and me - but it makes ruthless sense. I can easily see them doing it.
As the Telegraph says, it is a Tough Call
IIRC I said on this site that if Boris' "lax" attitude to the border - specifically with India in this case - led to another lockdown, I would never vote Tory again
I stand by that
But my point is more related to the psychology of those in government. How many rulers around the world have been praised for their relaxed, laissez-faire approach to the virus?
None. Not even Sweden, any more
The only governments that have prospered have been those which clamped down hard and early. NZ, Oz, East Asia, Germany (at first). The vaccine has offered a 2nd life to some, but that now risks being squandered
Given that we have stopped worrying about debt, the tendency will always be to err on the side of caution. With a new variant growing exponentially, and a "question mark" over its susceptibility to vaccines, the easy move is to keep us locked down
I imagine they are arguing this intensely, in Downing Street, right now0 -
Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!
It is a TikTok hit I think.Pulpstar said:
Rasputin is in the charts at no 18 right now.TimT said:
Roxy Music, 1973, with Brian Eno in Plymouth Guild Hall.Mortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
PS Underworld (2nd Toughest In Infants) is what I still listen to from the 90s
So Tonight That I Might See by Mazzy Star is the nineties album that I play most often. The languid dream pop is perfect.
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U2 went from being the world’s best band to the world‘s worst band about one minute after Achtung Baby was released.rcs1000 said:
Air - Moon Safari is good, but not that good.Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!
And no "best album" list should ever contain any U2.2 -
I saw F W de Klerk perform live…Pagan2 said:
I can admit I guess to having seen mungo jerry liveTimT said:
Or The Velvet Underground. Or Lynyrd Skynyrd before the plane crash.Pagan2 said:
If you think Michael Jackson concert makes young people look at you like that try telling them you saw adam and the ants on the dirk wears white sox tour before they turned to crapGardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.0 -
This do you?Carnyx said:
That's a Labour MSP and he's got it wrong.CarlottaVance said:I see Scotland has an open invitation to illegal immigrants (in general - the case of the two men involved is unknown):
https://twitter.com/PaulJSweeney/status/1392819321747951616?s=20
Police Scotland had to intervene to prevent serious problems when some HO types rocked up on the first day of Eid (and with some other political timings too, though I'm not sure they were alert enough to Scotland to realise that) to take a couple of gents away. I believe that the HO types kept them in the van for a whole day, but may be wrong.
Sturgeon re-tweeted:
https://twitter.com/HumzaYousaf/status/1392880965228314625?s=20
"To take this action at any time in Scotland is unwelcome"
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Looks like regional restrictions?
Aubrey Allegretti
@breeallegretti
Stark warning issued by DHSC tonight, in light of India variant’s spread:
“We cannot rule out re-imposing economic and social restrictions at a local or regional level if evidence suggests they are necessary to contain or suppress a variant which escapes the vaccine.”0 -
I listened to that just a few weeks ago and apart from Wake Up Boo which just sounds silly, it holds up remarkably well.Cookie said:
Boo Radleys - Giant StepsCharles said:
Sleeper - It Girlrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Beautiful South - Blue is the Colour & Miaow0 -
I already said Meatloaf - Bat Out of Hell II but if you're only counting bandsrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Guns N Roses - Use Your Illusion I
Worth a mention for November Rain and Don't Cry alone.0 -
I have to say alestorms cover of "In the navy" was a lot better than the originalFoxy said:Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!
It is a TikTok hit I think.Pulpstar said:
Rasputin is in the charts at no 18 right now.TimT said:
Roxy Music, 1973, with Brian Eno in Plymouth Guild Hall.Mortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
PS Underworld (2nd Toughest In Infants) is what I still listen to from the 90s
So Tonight That I Might See by Mazzy Star is the nineties album that I play most often. The languid dream pop is perfect.0 -
Ian McNabb - Head Like a Rockrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
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It has to be said though the 90's was a bit of a musical desertsarissa said:
Ian McNabb - Head Like a Rockrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
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Nevermind is a superb album by any measure. Yet for me album of the 1990s will always be Blue Lines by Massive Attack. I have played it to the point that hearing it now is too evocative to be comfortable.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.0 -
You're trying to tell us that younger people actually know anything about the battle of Gettysburg? I would have loved to see Michael Jackson. He was a pedophile and deeply disturbed but what an artist. So many great songs but in terms of videos (thriller excepted natch) They don't care about us was just genius.Gardenwalker said:
I saw the whole “Big 5”: Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Supergrass and indeed Radiohead. Several times in some cases.isam said:
I had tickets for Blur at Mile End Park and Oasis at Earl’s Court in 95 & didn’t end up seeing either. A great time to be a teenager/early 20s if you like Beer, football and Guitar bandsMortimer said:
My very first gig was Blur, at the BIC, in December 2003.FrancisUrquhart said:No thread on best albums of the 1990s ?
They didn't do another one for over five years.
I really did think I was born too late....
But my fav album of the 90s by far was Nirvana’s Nevermind.
I did see Oasis at Knebworth, blur & Weller at Chelmsford and Black Grape at Brixton though, but the two I missed were quite legendary concerts I think.
I actually managed to see a Michael Jackson concert once. When I say this, younger people look at me as if I was at the Battle of Gettysburg.1 -
Early Ry Cooder is superb.TimT said:
I liked Borderline a lot.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh I forgot Buena Vista - and I was thinking about Ry Cooder albums from the 90s but all the really great stuff he did apart from BVSC was back in the 70s and early 80s.Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!
His last album “Prodigal Son” shows he’s still got it.0 -
See, we do agree on a few things:Pagan2 said:
sighs now I have to check what was released in the 90'srcs1000 said:
Educate me.Pagan2 said:
What you are missing is musical taste possibly?rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
The colour and the shape by Foo fighters
Dookie by Green day
Good stuff by the B52's
Hitler bad vandals good by the vandals
There is nothing left to lose by Foo fighters
Throttle junkies by soil
From here to eternity live by the clash
Anything by the damned
System of a down by System of a down
Welcome to the park by Abney park
The Foo Fighters and The Clash.0 -
Shite music taste, shite political opinions.Philip_Thompson said:
I already said Meatloaf - Bat Out of Hell II but if you're only counting bandsrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Guns N Roses - Use Your Illusion I
Worth a mention for November Rain and Don't Cry alone.
There’s a definite correlation.0 -
Great album. But came out in 1980.TimT said:
I liked Borderline a lot.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh I forgot Buena Vista - and I was thinking about Ry Cooder albums from the 90s but all the really great stuff he did apart from BVSC was back in the 70s and early 80s.Gardenwalker said:
Since you asked:rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Beck - Odelay (but prefer Midnite Vultures)
U2 - Achtung Baby
Bjork - Debut
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Air - Moon Safari
Belle & Sebastián - Boy with the Arab Strap
Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
Buena Vista Social Club OST
Suede - Suede
Roots - Things Fall Apart
Edit: Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic!
I saw Rocking Ry on the Get Rhythm tour, a week before seeing Springsteen at Bramall Lane in Sheffield. That was definitely a week to remember.0 -
Man Utd 2 - 4 Liverpool
That'll do nicely. A game in hand now, 4 behind Chelsea, 6 behind Leicester, but those two need to play each other so its still in our hands now.0 -
I have a horrible feeling they will do their normal shit. Fuck it upturbotubbs said:
I totally understand your point, but I also think they fear the reaction were they to delay pub and hug day. I don’t think they will, rather they will pour resource (tests and vaccines) into the dodgiest areas.Leon said:
Largely true.turbotubbs said:
So here we are. We have arrived at exactly the toughest moment of the relaxation. Cases have not even started to go up yet (perhaps just about increasing, but the bank holiday has confused things a tad). Hospitalisation down week on week, deaths lower than 10 per day. Vaccinating those 38 and 39 now. In 6 weeks we’ll be all adults first dosed. Yes there is concern about a new variant, but I strongly suspect a lot of the cases are in schools. It certainly isn’t translating into hospital cases (yet). Time to hold the nerve. The plan was to protect the most vulnerable. We have done that. Sure cases might rise among the young, but they won’t die(mostly). We are at risk of jumping at shadows.Leon said:
Yes. Indeedtlg86 said:
The biggest problem for the government? They let it in.Leon said:
It was arguably closer to tripling. Exponential to the maxCarnyx said:
I didn't. That weekly doubling stat was very interesting.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
It is actually difficult to see how they can avoid extending lockdown. Why take the risk?
We are maybe eight weeks from near-total vaccination. What does 8 weeks of pubgoing and hotel-visiting gain us, if, by staying locked down instead, we definitely avoid another catastrophic third wave that shuts the entire country for months, and kills tens of thousands?
It will be brutally cruel for the hospitality industry - and me - but it makes ruthless sense. I can easily see them doing it.
As the Telegraph says, it is a Tough Call
IIRC I said on this site that if Boris' "lax" attitude to the border - specifically with India in this case - led to another lockdown, I would never vote Tory again
I stand by that
But my point is more related to the psychology of those in government. How many rulers around the world have been praised for their relaxed, laissez-faire approach to the virus?
None. Not even Sweden, any more
The only governments that have prospered have been those which clamped down hard and early. NZ, Oz, East Asia, Germany (at first). The vaccine has offered a 2nd life to some, but that now risks being squandered
Given that we have stopped worrying about debt, the tendency will always be to err on the side of caution. With a new variant growing exponentially, and a "question mark" over its susceptibility to vaccines, the easy move is to keep us locked down
I imagine they are arguing this intensely, in Downing Street, right now
They will allow the pub-opening on Monday, then they will look at the Indian Variant data next Thursday, and they will panic, and then close everything again
like Christmas, redux
It is no exaggeration to say Boris could fall, over this. He is so tied to the vaccine success. If the Tories are seen to have squandered it, thru their insane open borders policy (why? why? why?) then he might be gone in a year or less0 -
I always think of the Mary Whitehouse Experience gag whenever someone mentions Use Your Illusion 1.Philip_Thompson said:
I already said Meatloaf - Bat Out of Hell II but if you're only counting bandsrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
Guns N Roses - Use Your Illusion I
Worth a mention for November Rain and Don't Cry alone.1 -
The very few dance fans on here will h/t Dubnobasswithmyheadman by Underworld. Still goes down today.0
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The 70s was better than any other decade for music. Or at least a very extended 70s from around 1968 to 1981SandyRentool said:
That the 80s was better than the 90srcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
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Saw the foofighters at the glasgow sessions in 2019, they can still perform. Took a friend who had seeing the foofighters on her bucket list but never really thought she would have the chancercs1000 said:
See, we do agree on a few things:Pagan2 said:
sighs now I have to check what was released in the 90'srcs1000 said:
Educate me.Pagan2 said:
What you are missing is musical taste possibly?rcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
The colour and the shape by Foo fighters
Dookie by Green day
Good stuff by the B52's
Hitler bad vandals good by the vandals
There is nothing left to lose by Foo fighters
Throttle junkies by soil
From here to eternity live by the clash
Anything by the damned
System of a down by System of a down
Welcome to the park by Abney park
The Foo Fighters and The Clash.1 -
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Really striking to see B1617.2’s increase here in a short space of time
https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/13929235508525178900 -
Good album. Sonnet is a great track.DavidL said:
Really?? One really good song on the album. I think I would go for Urban Hymns by the Verve, Bittersweet, The drugs don't work, Sonnet, it had enough good songs to top out (having discovered, to my horror, that nearly all of my favourite albums are from the 80s not the 90s)Philip_Thompson said:
Clickbait, ignore.Leon said:Your first daily reminder, that you ALL called me a hysterical gusset-wetter for speculating that lockdown might be extended, due to Indian Covid
This was just two hours ago
Now, according to the Telegraph, an extension of lockdown is a "tough call". You could argue that this is journalistic hyperbole, but the Telegraph is, shall we say, not unconnected to the prime ministerial mind
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/johnson-faces-tough-call-mondays-reopening-indian-variant-cases/
On the more important topic of best albums from the 90s, sorry to be unpatriotic but my favourite is an American one - Bat Out Of Hell II.1 -
Airdrie and Shotts is counting tonight according to Matt Singh.1
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Warning from Health Secretary the government will not hesitate to take further action to get Indian variant under control.
All positive tests in London are also now going to be prioritised for sequencing to see if they’re a result of a mutation.
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Can a Tory, any Tory, please explain the open borders policy?? What the fucking holy fuck was gained by allowing flights from India for an extra three weeks?
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Massive Attack / Blue Lines.rcs1000 said:
Oh yes. Really terrible omission from me.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith & Devotionrcs1000 said:Best albums of the 1990s... (only picking one per band):
Radiohead - The Bends
Nirvana - Nevermind
Pulp - Different Class
Blur - Modern Life is Rubbish
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
REM - Monster
Portishead - Dummy
Leftfield - Leftism
Moby - Everything is Wrong
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Pearl Jam - 10
What am I missing?
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