Latest Savanta/ComRes lockdown tracker finds declining levels of compliance particularly amongst the
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Yep I am very much in that group. There are aspects I have disliked and I will look forward to the restrictions being lifted so I can see friends and family again but on the whole I have seen a massive improvement in quality of life during lockdown.Andy_JS said:"But there is a group of people who have actually become happier in the past 12 months and they aren’t the super-rich sunbathing in the Maldives. According to research published today by the Policy Institute at King’s College London (KCL) and Ipsos Mori, one in five believe their lives have improved since last March and they feel more content, while 54 per cent say they will miss some aspects of the Covid-19 restrictions."
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What does this company actually do? I have an interest in mental health provision because I have personal experience of what it does to people and their families.Charles said:
Not at all. It’s very important.Cyclefree said:
It's a non-job.Gallowgate said:Genuine question: what right does Prince Harry have to work in the USA? Does he have a right to work by virtue of being married to an American? Does he need a visa?
I've always been curious.
He’s not just making oodles of money giving speeches to investment bankers and documentaries for Netflix.
He’s working for a *mental health* company
He’s not such a bad guy giving up his valuable time like that...
Lots of people talk about it. It has become really quite fashionable to do so. Actual practical help is rather thin on the ground, especially afterwards. Try getting a job from companies after explaining that your patchy CV is because of mental health illness and you will find that their interest in better mental health vanishes as fast as snow in summer.
If he is going to do something practical to help with that, good on him. If it's just another talking shop or another forum for him to talk about himself, not so good.
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There are varying accounts.Sandpit said:
It sounds like they had a power failure, rather than were trying to turn around. Vessels in canals and ports also have a local “Pilot” on board, who’s in charge of the vessel through their stretch of water.Time_to_Leave said:
What I don’t understand is how Captain Frank Spencer did it? I’ve never skippered a supertanker myself but it feels like at a certain point in the turn you’d think “hmmm, maybe not, I’ll never clear that”.Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
I stand by my @Dura_Ace theory.2 -
So not only stealing from the UK, but also stealing from the less well-off in a pathetic attempt to hide their own failures. Sick.CarlottaVance said:4 -
From a minutes google an EB5 visa sounds like an easy route for him, Im sure there are many others.Malmesbury said:
I've seen people get full working status in the US very rapidly - not sure of the legal manoeuvres, but in the banks, it is almost as if they have a stack of blank green cards in HR.Sandpit said:
It’s a valid question though. Presumably he arrived on some sort of diplomatic visa which doesn’t permit ‘work’ in the usual sense of the word. Someone must have agreed some sort of working visa for him.Malmesbury said:
He'll still need the right to work. It may be a non-job, but they will be paying him is non-imaginary-money.Cyclefree said:
It's a non-job.Gallowgate said:Genuine question: what right does Prince Harry have to work in the USA? Does he have a right to work by virtue of being married to an American? Does he need a visa?
I've always been curious.
If it's anything like the banks, it is another example of how money and influence works in the US. Quite simply, if you are working for a powerful enough entity in the US, they can sort you out working status in day or so.
Someone will have signed off his paperwork, probably a while back.0 -
No I am exactly the same as you. Even when the restrictions were relaxed last summer I acted as if they were still in place. Pubs and restaurants remained a no no for me and I continued to limit contact with others as much as possible. Doing this meant that I felt safe seeing my Mum. It was a cost I was more than willing to pay for that.ClippP said:"Compliance with guidance is dipping slightly" - and for one I am not surprised. Polling seems to concentrate on the persona of Mr Johnson. But if it started asking about trust in the group of politicians who make up the government, I think the results would be rather different.
For my part, I do not trust them one bit. Everything they say or do is done in the political interests of their own party, or in the financial interests of their cronies. I make up my own mind and act accordingly. In this I am guided by what I read, not least by posters on PB. In the end, what I do is much more cautious that most of the government has said and done.
Am I alone in this?
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The EU is now a post-truth organisation.CarlottaVance said:
I suppose "the truth" isn't an option as an explanation?williamglenn said:2 -
They need to be publicly shamed by the world communityRobD said:
So not only stealing from the UK, but also stealing from the less well-off in a pathetic attempt to hide their own failures. Sick.CarlottaVance said:3 -
It would appear that the UK government is better informed about vaccine production in Italy than the Italian press (& government?)CarlottaVance said:3 -
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You could achieve exactly that by using the unused vaccines you have stored and not attacking its efficacy. Or banning its use. Or by working to increase supply.kamski said:
It may be shameful and indefensible, but just in terms of people dying or becoming ill: if you could manage to take vaccines out of the arms of healthy 45 year old people in Britain and into the arms of 75 year old people in Spain, wouldn't you actually be saving lives?Cyclefree said:
Of course they can explain. It's just they don't want to because the answer would be embarrassing for them. So they're going to try and harm the population of another country to cover up their embarrassment, even if that results in some of those people dying or becoming ill.williamglenn said:
It is shameful and indefensible.
(without starting a vaccine war...)
None of those options are being followed. So, no, I don't think this is about doing the best for their populations but about covering up for their panic and embarrassment.6 -
They reported on local government standards 2 years ago. The government still haven't responded to the recommendations.Cyclefree said:Oh look -
"The Committee on Standards in Public Life (CSPL) advises the Prime Minister on ethical standards across the whole of public life. It monitors and reports on issues relating to arrangements for upholding the standards of conduct of all public office holders.
The Prime Minister is seeking independent members to join the Committee for a five year term.
We are looking for high calibre individuals with a real interest in ethical standards and commitment to the principles of public life, who could make a strong contribution to the important work of this Committee."
Is this what is known as performative art by the PM? A sort of elaborate joke on us all, the joke being that there is absolutely no point giving such advice because neither the PM nor anyone in his government will follow it?
Yes, Brexit and then Covid, but plenty of other stuff has at least been responded to. Especially as they'll just say no to most of it as loads of tory councils dont like the recs.0 -
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
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It needs some high-level diplomatic thought as to how best to proceed though.Chameleon said:If Pfizer exports to us (and Israel) are blocked, retaliation is a must. This will set the tone for the future near-term EU-UK relationship, and rolling over isn't going to be good for us.
Retaliating with anything to do with vaccine supplies is a bad idea, it’s playing their game and we’ve stayed above that frey so far.
There’s plenty of other things we could do though, from diplomatic expulsions, to red-listing European countries, to banning lorry drivers. Oh, and a massive effort from all government departments, to persuade companies watching that the UK is a great place to do business.0 -
So I see that the EU is seeking to seize vaccines paid for by the UK/US destined for third world countries.
Have Dave/Roger been along to explain why this makes the EU the good guys? Because from my view this is completely indefensible.2 -
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Amazing double standards around Harry. He has set up the Invictus games which changed many peoples lives from overwhelming struggle to one of hope and achievement. That already puts him in the top 0.1% or better of people influencing and improving others lives.Cyclefree said:
What does this company actually do? I have an interest in mental health provision because I have personal experience of what it does to people and their families.Charles said:
Not at all. It’s very important.Cyclefree said:
It's a non-job.Gallowgate said:Genuine question: what right does Prince Harry have to work in the USA? Does he have a right to work by virtue of being married to an American? Does he need a visa?
I've always been curious.
He’s not just making oodles of money giving speeches to investment bankers and documentaries for Netflix.
He’s working for a *mental health* company
He’s not such a bad guy giving up his valuable time like that...
Lots of people talk about it. It has become really quite fashionable to do so. Actual practical help is rather thin on the ground, especially afterwards. Try getting a job from companies after explaining that your patchy CV is because of mental health illness and you will find that their interest in better mental health vanishes as fast as snow in summer.
If he is going to do something practical to help with that, good on him. If it's just another talking shop or another forum for him to talk about himself, not so good.1 -
We've given ONE dose, not two.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed.another_richard said:
Add in those who have immunity through infection and it will be 60%+.Malmesbury said:This was foreseen - there is the gap between getting the most at risk groups vaccinated and getting to herd immunity levels.
We are at 40%+ of all people having one vaccination.
Israel is at 60%+ - which is at the lower bounds of herd immunity effect.
In this gap, people are already saying "Isn't it over yet?"
No, it isn't. Hence the roadmap.
Not to mention that the people who have been vaccinated are those most at risk.
Israel lifted lockdown on 7/2. They weren't at 60% vaccinated by 7/2 by a long shot. Especially since they were double-dosing the vulnerable.
We've vaccinated as many people as Israel had by then.
The effect of one dose brings down hospitalisations a long way (but not as far as two doses) and retards transmission and infection to an extent - but nowhere near as much as two doses.
The double-dosing may be the key to retarding R.
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As someone who has followed the whole route of sponsorship by American spouse, obtainment of immigrant visa, issuing of green card and finally naturalization as a US citizen, I too have been curious as to how Harry’s followed the same route. Given that a glance at any British ex-pat or US immigration forum will reveal that backlogs have increased massively due to the pandemic, all I can say is that the gods of US Citizenship and Immigration Services must have been smiling upon him.Sandpit said:
It’s a valid question though. Presumably he arrived on some sort of diplomatic visa which doesn’t permit ‘work’ in the usual sense of the word. Someone must have agreed some sort of working visa for him.Malmesbury said:
He'll still need the right to work. It may be a non-job, but they will be paying him is non-imaginary-money.Cyclefree said:
It's a non-job.Gallowgate said:Genuine question: what right does Prince Harry have to work in the USA? Does he have a right to work by virtue of being married to an American? Does he need a visa?
I've always been curious.
If it's anything like the banks, it is another example of how money and influence works in the US. Quite simply, if you are working for a powerful enough entity in the US, they can sort you out working status in day or so.1 -
Not difficult when there was a pile of issues and questions in January regarding vaccine packaging.CarlottaVance said:
It would appear that the UK government is better informed about vaccine production in Italy than the Italian press (& government?)CarlottaVance said:0 -
You would. But there are literally hundreds of millions of people more deserving in the world on that basis. Why should we be surrendering vaccines for a first world country that has screwed up their own vaccine programme even though they could well afford it when instead we could be sending it to equally at risk people in poorer countries who have no chance of being able to get the vaccine for months or even years.kamski said:
It may be shameful and indefensible, but just in terms of people dying or becoming ill: if you could manage to take vaccines out of the arms of healthy 45 year old people in Britain and into the arms of 75 year old people in Spain, wouldn't you actually be saving lives?Cyclefree said:
Of course they can explain. It's just they don't want to because the answer would be embarrassing for them. So they're going to try and harm the population of another country to cover up their embarrassment, even if that results in some of those people dying or becoming ill.williamglenn said:
It is shameful and indefensible.
(without starting a vaccine war...)
This is where the 'moral' argument falls down. If you wish to pursue that line of thinking then those who would receive the vaccine instead are no more in need or deserving of it than those hundreds of millions of others. Take to its logical conclusion the EU and the UK should stop jabbing their own people now and start sending all their vaccines overseas. (I am not advocating this just showing the logical failing of the argument being used)3 -
Yep! There’s a lot of bow in the canal side wall.MattW said:
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
I guess this is why shipping insurance is more expensive than you think it should be!
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We can close the Severn and Forth bridges to high-sided vehicles in gale force winds, but nobody thought to close it to something that (like a road juggernaut), could close it to all traffic?Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I said earlier the ship was hit by gale force winds and on the assumption it also had engine failure than those are the perfect ingredients to cause this shipping nightmareSandpit said:
It sounds like they had a power failure, rather than were trying to turn around. Vessels in canals and ports also have a local “Pilot” on board, who’s in charge of the vessel through their stretch of water.Time_to_Leave said:
What I don’t understand is how Captain Frank Spencer did it? I’ve never skippered a supertanker myself but it feels like at a certain point in the turn you’d think “hmmm, maybe not, I’ll never clear that”.Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
There's going to be quite a shake-up after this. World freight is going to demand it.0 -
Has anyone actually stolen any vaccines from Covax?Floater said:
They need to be publicly shamed by the world communityRobD said:
So not only stealing from the UK, but also stealing from the less well-off in a pathetic attempt to hide their own failures. Sick.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Why?Richard_Tyndall said:
Yep I am very much in that group. There are aspects I have disliked and I will look forward to the restrictions being lifted so I can see friends and family again but on the whole I have seen a massive improvement in quality of life during lockdown.Andy_JS said:"But there is a group of people who have actually become happier in the past 12 months and they aren’t the super-rich sunbathing in the Maldives. According to research published today by the Policy Institute at King’s College London (KCL) and Ipsos Mori, one in five believe their lives have improved since last March and they feel more content, while 54 per cent say they will miss some aspects of the Covid-19 restrictions."
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The Italians seem keen on seizing them.kamski said:
Has anyone actually stolen any vaccines from Covax?Floater said:
They need to be publicly shamed by the world communityRobD said:
So not only stealing from the UK, but also stealing from the less well-off in a pathetic attempt to hide their own failures. Sick.CarlottaVance said:0 -
I think the best thing we can do for the rest of the world at the moment is to show the benefit of having a full and comprehensive vaccine rollout, using mainly the AZ vaccine. Sometimes selfishness can lead to better outcomes and this will be an example of thatRichard_Tyndall said:
You would. But there are literally hundreds of millions of people more deserving in the world on that basis. Why should we be surrendering vaccines for a first world country that has screwed up their own vaccine programme even though they could well afford it when instead we could be sending it to equally at risk people in poorer countries who have no chance of being able to get the vaccine for months or even years.kamski said:
It may be shameful and indefensible, but just in terms of people dying or becoming ill: if you could manage to take vaccines out of the arms of healthy 45 year old people in Britain and into the arms of 75 year old people in Spain, wouldn't you actually be saving lives?Cyclefree said:
Of course they can explain. It's just they don't want to because the answer would be embarrassing for them. So they're going to try and harm the population of another country to cover up their embarrassment, even if that results in some of those people dying or becoming ill.williamglenn said:
It is shameful and indefensible.
(without starting a vaccine war...)
This is where the 'moral' argument falls down. If you wish to pursue that line of thinking then those who would receive the vaccine instead are no more in need or deserving of it than those hundreds of millions of others. Take to its logical conclusion the EU and the UK should stop jabbing their own people now and start sending all their vaccines overseas. (I am not advocating this just showing the logical failing of the argument being used)4 -
A form of a career / personal coaching, apparently.Cyclefree said:
What does this company actually do? I have an interest in mental health provision because I have personal experience of what it does to people and their families.Charles said:
Not at all. It’s very important.Cyclefree said:
It's a non-job.Gallowgate said:Genuine question: what right does Prince Harry have to work in the USA? Does he have a right to work by virtue of being married to an American? Does he need a visa?
I've always been curious.
He’s not just making oodles of money giving speeches to investment bankers and documentaries for Netflix.
He’s working for a *mental health* company
He’s not such a bad guy giving up his valuable time like that...
Lots of people talk about it. It has become really quite fashionable to do so. Actual practical help is rather thin on the ground, especially afterwards. Try getting a job from companies after explaining that your patchy CV is because of mental health illness and you will find that their interest in better mental health vanishes as fast as snow in summer.
If he is going to do something practical to help with that, good on him. If it's just another talking shop or another forum for him to talk about himself, not so good.
I would suspect that such a role is what he wants to make of it - either be a figurehead or get actually involved.
The Goldmans garbage the other day is an example of macho stupidity about work/life balance. Which really needs to change in the US.1 -
On the subject of mental health, I once got "let go" from a company due to my mental health.
I had been working there for a few months, and I suddenly had a very bad mental health episode. Prior to then I had heaps of praise raining down upon me about being the benchmark for new starters, etc, but 1 week after I told my manager I was having a few issues I was let go.
I'm still bitter about it to this day.0 -
In their defence... they had no idea what they were doing.Chameleon said:So I see that the EU is seeking to seize vaccines paid for by the UK/US destined for third world countries.
Have Dave/Roger been along to explain why this makes the EU the good guys? Because from my view this is completely indefensible.
Ok, that's the best I can do.4 -
CIPSL suddenly becomes Judge Judy...Sandpit said:
Go on. You know you want to...Cyclefree said:Oh look -
"The Committee on Standards in Public Life (CSPL) advises the Prime Minister on ethical standards across the whole of public life. It monitors and reports on issues relating to arrangements for upholding the standards of conduct of all public office holders.
The Prime Minister is seeking independent members to join the Committee for a five year term.
We are looking for high calibre individuals with a real interest in ethical standards and commitment to the principles of public life, who could make a strong contribution to the important work of this Committee."
Is this what is known as performative art by the PM? A sort of elaborate joke on us all, the joke being that there is absolutely no point giving such advice because neither the PM nor anyone in his government will follow it?
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Are these the same people who were behind resignsturegon?Scott_xP said:0 -
Bulbous bows always remind me ofSandpit said:
Yep! There’s a lot of bow in the canal side wall.MattW said:
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
I guess this is why shipping insurance is more expensive than you think it should be!
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374597391463120896
though this one is also..... special
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And yet again you have the EU nutters swirling around conspiracy theories and actively damaging both vaccine programs and international relations.CarlottaVance said:1 -
It’s apparently some sort of coaching “app”, but based on the Uber model of not actually employing any coaches, rather treating them as contractors and paying them poorly. They’re very much a startup, with not many people working there but a whole pile of VC money behind them.Malmesbury said:
A form of a career / personal coaching, apparently.Cyclefree said:
What does this company actually do? I have an interest in mental health provision because I have personal experience of what it does to people and their families.Charles said:
Not at all. It’s very important.Cyclefree said:
It's a non-job.Gallowgate said:Genuine question: what right does Prince Harry have to work in the USA? Does he have a right to work by virtue of being married to an American? Does he need a visa?
I've always been curious.
He’s not just making oodles of money giving speeches to investment bankers and documentaries for Netflix.
He’s working for a *mental health* company
He’s not such a bad guy giving up his valuable time like that...
Lots of people talk about it. It has become really quite fashionable to do so. Actual practical help is rather thin on the ground, especially afterwards. Try getting a job from companies after explaining that your patchy CV is because of mental health illness and you will find that their interest in better mental health vanishes as fast as snow in summer.
If he is going to do something practical to help with that, good on him. If it's just another talking shop or another forum for him to talk about himself, not so good.
I would suspect that such a role is what he wants to make of it - either be a figurehead or get actually involved.
The Goldmans garbage the other day is an example of macho stupidity about work/life balance. Which really needs to change in the US.
I suspect a lot more scrutiny will come their way in the near future.2 -
Do they? I saw that La Stampa claimed 29 million "hidden" doses had been "found", but most of that story seems to be entirely inaccurate.RobD said:
The Italians seem keen on seizing them.kamski said:
Has anyone actually stolen any vaccines from Covax?Floater said:
They need to be publicly shamed by the world communityRobD said:
So not only stealing from the UK, but also stealing from the less well-off in a pathetic attempt to hide their own failures. Sick.CarlottaVance said:0 -
The most astonishing thing about the Italian vaccine 'hoard' story is that anyone, let alone journalists and politicians, would be so caught up in conspiracy theories that they'd believe that AZ would deliberately be sitting on 29 million doses. I mean, does it not occur to these people to ask themselves what conceivable motive AZ would have to do that?5
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Especially not without power.Scott_xP said:
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The ability to work entirely from home instead of having to make regular trips overseas or to Aberdeen.Andy_JS said:
Why?Richard_Tyndall said:
Yep I am very much in that group. There are aspects I have disliked and I will look forward to the restrictions being lifted so I can see friends and family again but on the whole I have seen a massive improvement in quality of life during lockdown.Andy_JS said:"But there is a group of people who have actually become happier in the past 12 months and they aren’t the super-rich sunbathing in the Maldives. According to research published today by the Policy Institute at King’s College London (KCL) and Ipsos Mori, one in five believe their lives have improved since last March and they feel more content, while 54 per cent say they will miss some aspects of the Covid-19 restrictions."
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-truth-is-many-of-us-have-loved-lockdown-kc30kfgms
As a result I have actually been able to do more work for more clients but with more free time.
The massive improvement in my sons' education and his mental state.
The reduction in extraneous and unimportant stuff that filled my life before.
The massive improvement in noise and air pollution - particularly in the first lockdown but also, until schools went back, in this most recent version.
I have been able to do a lot more study, a lot more reading and a huge amount of increase in time spent out of doors.
Both my diet and my fitness have improved hugely.
There have been downsides and I will not miss some aspects of lockdown but overall it has been a huge benefit to me and probably added years to my life.2 -
more joy shall be in Heaven over one sinner that repenteth,.....
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Especially since the EU contract is, I understand, payment on delivery.Richard_Nabavi said:The most astonishing thing about the Italian vaccine 'hoard' story is that anyone, let alone journalists and politicians, would be so caught up in conspiracy theories that they'd believe that AZ would deliberately be sitting on 29 million doses. I mean, does it not occur to these people to ask themselves what conceivable motive AZ would have to do that?
So if the said 29 million doses exist and are not destined for COVAX etc, then the company is deliberately not getting money for them.0 -
"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good!"CarlottaVance said:0 -
Sorry to hear that and it was their loss ultimately.Gallowgate said:On the subject of mental health, I once got "let go" from a company due to my mental health.
I had been working there for a few months, and I suddenly had a very bad mental health episode. Prior to then I had heaps of praise raining down upon me about being the benchmark for new starters, etc, but 1 week after I told my manager I was having a few issues I was let go.
I'm still bitter about it to this day.3 -
Friend Manfred Weber about to have a walking-into-lampost problem, maybe.
https://twitter.com/ManfredWeber/status/1374657923306172419
Ooer:
https://twitter.com/BrunoBrussels/status/13746748727192780811 -
In effect that's what the EPP leader is calling for.kamski said:
Has anyone actually stolen any vaccines from Covax?Floater said:
They need to be publicly shamed by the world communityRobD said:
So not only stealing from the UK, but also stealing from the less well-off in a pathetic attempt to hide their own failures. Sick.CarlottaVance said:
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Their keenness on seizing them doesn't seem to be inaccurate. Otherwise why are they making a giant fuss about it?kamski said:
Do they? I saw that La Stampa claimed 29 million "hidden" doses had been "found", but most of that story seems to be entirely inaccurate.RobD said:
The Italians seem keen on seizing them.kamski said:
Has anyone actually stolen any vaccines from Covax?Floater said:
They need to be publicly shamed by the world communityRobD said:
So not only stealing from the UK, but also stealing from the less well-off in a pathetic attempt to hide their own failures. Sick.CarlottaVance said:1 -
Another pipeline?CarlottaVance said:0 -
Apologies if already linked to: https://twitter.com/SpesScotorum/status/1374669633505087490
The judgment is not on the Scotcourts website yet but Lord Braid has apparently held that the closing of churches was a disproportionate breach of article 9 of ECHR.0 -
It boggles my mind that Henry Kissinger is still with us. It feels like as if Neville Chamberlain were still alive and kicking and occasionally gets asked his opinion of world events.isam said:4 -
I do, though, feel that the outside activity relaxation could well be brought forwards. The indications are very strong that outside activity is far far lower risk (not zero risk, but considerably lower).
It could also help with holding on for the rest of the roadmap.
The proportion of ICU patients outside of Groups 1-4 and 5-9 is still very significant.
Around 15-20% of ICU patients admitted throughout have been outside the Groups 1-9, and about 50-65% were in Groups 5-9 (only part of whom have been one-dose vaccinated) (varying over time)
Suppose we relax fully and the reduction in hospitalisation levels is 85% for the vaccinated.
Out of every 100 people admitted to ICU prior to vaccination, we'd expect:
NOW (half of Groups 5-9 vaccinated)
Unvaccinated: 20
Groups 5-9: 28.75
Groups 1-4: 4.75
Total: 54
Call it 50%. That buys us one doubling.
Wait until about 4 weeks from now and assume that Groups 5-9 will be done and have developed immunity and most of Groups 1-4 will have been double-dosed and further improved on protection. Some of the outside-Groups-1-9 will have been done as well):
Unvaccinated: 18
Groups 5-9: 7.5
Groups 1-4: ~2
Total: 28
That buys us nearly two doublings.
The R number can spring up FAST and is not comparable with last June. Not only are we less outdoorsy in April than in June, we have a variant that's far more transmissible.
There are plenty of people that can fill the ICUs. We ramped up fast in December even with Tier 3 and Tier 4 in plenty of places; reducing to below that would see a big potential springing up.
Maybe we'd be lucky. Or maybe we'd need to lock down yet again. How about we relax outdoors stuff a bit early and otherwise stick to the roadmap instead?4 -
Actually, Polyphemus's bow wasn't that bulbous:Malmesbury said:
Bulbous bows always remind me ofSandpit said:
Yep! There’s a lot of bow in the canal side wall.MattW said:
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
I guess this is why shipping insurance is more expensive than you think it should be!
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374597391463120896
though this one is also..... special
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Surely you're not a supporter of judicial review interfering with the policy of a democratically elected government, @DavidL ?DavidL said:Apologies if already linked to: https://twitter.com/SpesScotorum/status/1374669633505087490
The judgment is not on the Scotcourts website yet but Lord Braid has apparently held that the closing of churches was a disproportionate breach of article 9 of ECHR. 0 -
We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.2 -
Some kind of brand ambassador, I think.Cyclefree said:
What does this company actually do? I have an interest in mental health provision because I have personal experience of what it does to people and their families.Charles said:
Not at all. It’s very important.Cyclefree said:
It's a non-job.Gallowgate said:Genuine question: what right does Prince Harry have to work in the USA? Does he have a right to work by virtue of being married to an American? Does he need a visa?
I've always been curious.
He’s not just making oodles of money giving speeches to investment bankers and documentaries for Netflix.
He’s working for a *mental health* company
He’s not such a bad guy giving up his valuable time like that...
Lots of people talk about it. It has become really quite fashionable to do so. Actual practical help is rather thin on the ground, especially afterwards. Try getting a job from companies after explaining that your patchy CV is because of mental health illness and you will find that their interest in better mental health vanishes as fast as snow in summer.
If he is going to do something practical to help with that, good on him. If it's just another talking shop or another forum for him to talk about himself, not so good.
This is the company; make of it what you will...
https://www.betterup.com/en-us/about-us/news-and-press/betterup-raises-125-million-series-d-achieves-173-billion-valuation-and-expands-coaching-platform-with-betterup-care
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I expect the WHO and WTO will condemn the EU as wellLeon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.1 -
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When William Froude ran the various models through his tank, the effect of the bow was quite noticeable. Which was the reason that design was chosen. Fastest warship in the world, briefly, IIRC.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, Polyphemus's bow wasn't that bulbous:Malmesbury said:
Bulbous bows always remind me ofSandpit said:
Yep! There’s a lot of bow in the canal side wall.MattW said:
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
I guess this is why shipping insurance is more expensive than you think it should be!
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374597391463120896
though this one is also..... special
The bow bulb *was* comparatively small by modern standards.0 -
EDIT - that is one of the early concept drawings, incidentally, I think. By the time she was built, she acquired proper upper works. And I think the float-off life rafts were deleted....Malmesbury said:
When William Froude ran the various models through his tank, the effect of the bow was quite noticeable. Which was the reason that design was chosen. Fastest warship in the world, briefly, IIRC.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, Polyphemus's bow wasn't that bulbous:Malmesbury said:
Bulbous bows always remind me ofSandpit said:
Yep! There’s a lot of bow in the canal side wall.MattW said:
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
I guess this is why shipping insurance is more expensive than you think it should be!
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374597391463120896
though this one is also..... special
The bow bulb *was* comparatively small by modern standards.0 -
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Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.1 -
WTF...Floater said:1 -
At least the bow is smoother than if it was a Quinquereme from Ninevah with a ram.Sandpit said:
Yep! There’s a lot of bow in the canal side wall.MattW said:
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
I guess this is why shipping insurance is more expensive than you think it should be!
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/13745973914631208960 -
Very much so - good employers recognise that everyone falls ill with something sometimes, and look beyond that.turbotubbs said:
Sorry to hear that and it was their loss ultimately.Gallowgate said:On the subject of mental health, I once got "let go" from a company due to my mental health.
I had been working there for a few months, and I suddenly had a very bad mental health episode. Prior to then I had heaps of praise raining down upon me about being the benchmark for new starters, etc, but 1 week after I told my manager I was having a few issues I was let go.
I'm still bitter about it to this day.
I've mixed experiences. My current employer is excellent on the issue - people are allowed off on full pay for lengthy periods while they recover from mental or physical health problems. On the other hand, my wife was fired as a senior editor from a publishing company because she had a bout of depression. A difference was that she was technically employed as a consultant (though she'd been there for years).0 -
Would getting a second teeny-tiny digger help?Sandpit said:
Yep! There’s a lot of bow in the canal side wall.MattW said:
And presumably it has a bulbous bow too.Sandpit said:
They travel in convoys and can’t turn around in the width of the canal, so would probably need to be backed out by tugs, one at a time.MattW said:
I'd be worried about the ones that have come 120 miles from the other end and now have to reverse...Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
The accident is at the worst possible point in the whole system, travelling northbound close to Suez city in the south of the canal. There’s no way around the blockage, so all rescue equipment needs to come from the north down the whole canal, unless they first back out all the vessels behind it to the south.
The canal doesn’t have a completely flat bottom, it’s sloped at both sides with a relatively small lane of full depth in the centre. It’s likely grounded on both bow and stern, with the bow embedded some 30m into the side of the bank. It’s probably damaged sufficiently at the bow to be taking on water, which won’t help it float.
Possibly the only way they drag it out, is by using the similarly large ship behind, many tug boats and a lot of very large cables. Once it’s floating, they need to patch it up and move it out of the canal for repairs.
I guess this is why shipping insurance is more expensive than you think it should be!
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Who needs to be combated more. The idiots running Europe, or some commentators on PB? A tough one.Nigel_Foremain said:
Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.3 -
And they are being sold to poor countries not-for-profit. Unlike any other vaccinesRichard_Nabavi said:The most astonishing thing about the Italian vaccine 'hoard' story is that anyone, let alone journalists and politicians, would be so caught up in conspiracy theories that they'd believe that AZ would deliberately be sitting on 29 million doses. I mean, does it not occur to these people to ask themselves what conceivable motive AZ would have to do that?
Perhaps Manfred Weber would like to fly to Mexico, visit a hospital in Veracruz, so he can explain to a gasping pensioner that she is about to die in agony because the vaccine her government paid for, at cost, which was developed in the UK with British taxpayer money, has instead been seized in Italy, so that the EU and its governments do not have to admit the embarrassing truth. That is why you are dying, senora.
Lo siento
Then maybe he could detach the ventilator from her mouth, and watch.
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Sideshow Bob explains EU vaccine strategy to date:MattW said:Friend Manfred Weber about to have a walking-into-lampost problem, maybe.
https://twitter.com/ManfredWeber/status/1374657923306172419
Ooer:
https://twitter.com/BrunoBrussels/status/1374674872719278081
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Yep I think you are right. But I do think that once that is done we should be looking at a serious investment in third world vaccination well above what we are already doing. That is not to play down what we have done so far but there is a moral, an economic and a practical argument - unassailable in my view - for helping all those countries who are struggling to overcome this virus.Nigel_Foremain said:
I think the best thing we can do for the rest of the world at the moment is to show the benefit of having a full and comprehensive vaccine rollout, using mainly the AZ vaccine. Sometimes selfishness can lead to better outcomes and this will be an example of thatRichard_Tyndall said:
You would. But there are literally hundreds of millions of people more deserving in the world on that basis. Why should we be surrendering vaccines for a first world country that has screwed up their own vaccine programme even though they could well afford it when instead we could be sending it to equally at risk people in poorer countries who have no chance of being able to get the vaccine for months or even years.kamski said:
It may be shameful and indefensible, but just in terms of people dying or becoming ill: if you could manage to take vaccines out of the arms of healthy 45 year old people in Britain and into the arms of 75 year old people in Spain, wouldn't you actually be saving lives?Cyclefree said:
Of course they can explain. It's just they don't want to because the answer would be embarrassing for them. So they're going to try and harm the population of another country to cover up their embarrassment, even if that results in some of those people dying or becoming ill.williamglenn said:
It is shameful and indefensible.
(without starting a vaccine war...)
This is where the 'moral' argument falls down. If you wish to pursue that line of thinking then those who would receive the vaccine instead are no more in need or deserving of it than those hundreds of millions of others. Take to its logical conclusion the EU and the UK should stop jabbing their own people now and start sending all their vaccines overseas. (I am not advocating this just showing the logical failing of the argument being used)4 -
Wow
The fact the European Union (EU) are stockpiling millions of doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine should not stop the jab manufacturer delivering supply to the bloc, a Belgian MEP has said.
Philippe Lamberts conceded that the EU do have doses at their disposal, but this should not "exonerate" the company that produces the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine from their delivery commitments.
He said: "Frankly speaking, we are not in this position because of the British Government or because of the European Commission.
"We are in this position because of the inability to fulfil promises of a vaccine manufacturer - in this case AstraZeneca."
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The sane, calm, coolly logical position is hatred of the EU and its member governments, right now. With their cretinous, lunatic smearing of the AZ vaccine they have already killed many people, their new proposals will kill many more. Even as they sit on unused doses of the same vaccine. Unused because of their own stupidity.Nigel_Foremain said:
Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.
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I went through the Suez on Lusty in the late 90s. The Admiralty made us go through in the dark so nobody would know we were there - OF7 level strategic thinking. I did not take the helm! I never got to make the reverse passage as I was removed from the ship at Bahrain.Nigelb said:
There are varying accounts.Sandpit said:
It sounds like they had a power failure, rather than were trying to turn around. Vessels in canals and ports also have a local “Pilot” on board, who’s in charge of the vessel through their stretch of water.Time_to_Leave said:
What I don’t understand is how Captain Frank Spencer did it? I’ve never skippered a supertanker myself but it feels like at a certain point in the turn you’d think “hmmm, maybe not, I’ll never clear that”.Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
I stand by my @Dura_Ace theory.0 -
Yes, I get that many of us spout off angry and occasionally ill informed rhetoric, but we're political wonks on a website, that's ok. Our government, uncharacteristically but happily, has been more even tempered.RobD said:
Who needs to be combated more. The idiots running Europe, or some commentators on PB? A tough one.Nigel_Foremain said:
Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.0 -
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AZN also failed to keep its promise to the UK. No toys out of our pram.Floater said:Wow
The fact the European Union (EU) are stockpiling millions of doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine should not stop the jab manufacturer delivering supply to the bloc, a Belgian MEP has said.
Philippe Lamberts conceded that the EU do have doses at their disposal, but this should not "exonerate" the company that produces the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine from their delivery commitments.
He said: "Frankly speaking, we are not in this position because of the British Government or because of the European Commission.
"We are in this position because of the inability to fulfil promises of a vaccine manufacturer - in this case AstraZeneca."
Riiiiight5 -
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When the EU are impounding vaccines bought and paid for by Covax to aid the third world during the pandemic and you are rushing out to condemn those criticising the EU then you have rather misplaced your moral compass.Nigel_Foremain said:
Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.2 -
Dura_Ace said:
I went through the Suez on Lusty in the late 90s. The Admiralty made us go through in the dark so nobody would know we were there - OF7 level strategic thinking. I did not take the helm! I never got to make the reverse passage as I was removed from the ship at Bahrain.Nigelb said:
There are varying accounts.Sandpit said:
It sounds like they had a power failure, rather than were trying to turn around. Vessels in canals and ports also have a local “Pilot” on board, who’s in charge of the vessel through their stretch of water.Time_to_Leave said:
What I don’t understand is how Captain Frank Spencer did it? I’ve never skippered a supertanker myself but it feels like at a certain point in the turn you’d think “hmmm, maybe not, I’ll never clear that”.Sandpit said:Looking at images of that stuck ship, and diagrams of the canal, it’s very, *very* stuck indeed.
It’s also an awful lot bigger than you think it is - it’s 400m long and 57m wide, weighs 220,000 tonnes, one of the largest vessels afloat.
They’re going to have to dredge plenty of canal out of the way, and probably take off hundreds of containers.
My prediction - 10 days to clear it, about the same time as the shipping diversion around Africa. Time to fill up your car with petrol.
I stand by my @Dura_Ace theory.
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Crikey, am I also a wonk? I've always wanted to be a wonk.kle4 said:
Yes, I get that many of us spout off angry and occasionally ill informed rhetoric, but we're political wonks on a website, that's ok. Our government, uncharacteristically but happily, has been more even tempered.RobD said:
Who needs to be combated more. The idiots running Europe, or some commentators on PB? A tough one.Nigel_Foremain said:
Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.
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Scott P?MalcolmDunn said:Who would be a remainer now?
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A bit of a omnishambles given grocers would have ordered all their fresh stuff, and now it's going to be wasted.Floater said:1 -
Is that data making the mistake of including single doses where people received the vaccine within the last three weeks? Ie when its not effective yet.Andy_Cooke said:
We've given ONE dose, not two.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed.another_richard said:
Add in those who have immunity through infection and it will be 60%+.Malmesbury said:This was foreseen - there is the gap between getting the most at risk groups vaccinated and getting to herd immunity levels.
We are at 40%+ of all people having one vaccination.
Israel is at 60%+ - which is at the lower bounds of herd immunity effect.
In this gap, people are already saying "Isn't it over yet?"
No, it isn't. Hence the roadmap.
Not to mention that the people who have been vaccinated are those most at risk.
Israel lifted lockdown on 7/2. They weren't at 60% vaccinated by 7/2 by a long shot. Especially since they were double-dosing the vulnerable.
We've vaccinated as many people as Israel had by then.
The effect of one dose brings down hospitalisations a long way (but not as far as two doses) and retards transmission and infection to an extent - but nowhere near as much as two doses.
The double-dosing may be the key to retarding R.
The data out now from PHE and the Scottish equivalent is that a single dose reduces the risk of hospitalisation and death by 85%. The idea the bulk of the protection comes from the second dose is absolutely for the birds.0 -
I do feel a certain sympathy for ardent Remainers right now. The cognitive dissonance must be like a 200 decibel klaxon constantly shrieking, a metre away. Agonizing.Philip_Thompson said:
When the EU are impounding vaccines bought and paid for by Covax to aid the third world during the pandemic and you are rushing out to condemn those criticising the EU then you have rather misplaced your moral compass.Nigel_Foremain said:
Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.
Like a true believer seeing the feet of clay. Like cultists being deprogrammed. The process - I’m serious here - is known to cause great mental pain0 -
Me. I would vote to Remain outside the EU.MalcolmDunn said:Who would be a remainer now?
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Let me let you into a secret, that may have eluded you. Our government, and previous governments that have purported to represent us, have done some very very dumb things, but occasionally it does some good ones. So do other governments and so does the EU. The EU Commission is currently in panic mode. Eventually it will calm down. Much of this is rhetoric to cover up bad decisions, which is exactly what our government does. Quelle surprise!Leon said:
The sane, calm, coolly logical position is hatred of the EU and its member governments, right now. With their cretinous, lunatic smearing of the AZ vaccine they have already killed many people, their new proposals will kill many more. Even as they sit on unused doses of the same vaccine. Unused because of their own stupidity.Nigel_Foremain said:
Your obsessive view on the EU not just tainted just a little by a bit of xenophobia perhaps? Read too many war comics as a kid?Leon said:We have to retaliate hard. And we need to get the rest of the world with us. Starting with Canada and Mexico seems a good place. Then the entire 3rd World (Covax). Then a call to Uncle Joe
The EU is finally revealed for what it is, a blundering, hypocritical, venal, mendacious, anti-democratic racket, staffed by no-marks and imbeciles, at the service of selfish liars.
Let us hope it is all deescalated and sanity prevails and people like "Leon" don't whip up more hatred and division. The EU Commission is being very dumb, but the hatred spewed by some Brexit obsessives (not all of you I hasten to add) needs to be combatted as much as the idiots on the other side of the channel.
Cool heads are needed, not hot ones. Most of this is posturing no doubt.
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After the initial reaction last March, Germany have made idiotic decision after idiotic decision.Floater said:0 -
I am truely amazed how the EU and the EU countries are doing this.
Making a mistake is one thing, continuing time after time to cock it up is another, and not learning from any mistakes.
It's a bit like a job I'm working on. I got given a document riddled with errors. I pointed them out. It comes back with even more errors and the errors not all removed.
You really have to lose faith at a point they have any competency.1 -
Hasn't this been the case since Ultra?CarlottaVance said:
It would appear that the UK government is better informed about vaccine production in Italy than the Italian press (& government?)CarlottaVance said:
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Talking up his share price. Looks like a candidate to short to me.....CarlottaVance said:2 -
