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Andy_JS said:

Foxy said:

Andy_JS said:

Foxy said:

Time_to_Leave said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The incel thing definitely seems to be a thing, but one wonders whether the pasty, overweight Nazi chicken comes before you think I’d shag that egg.

https://twitter.com/tejmuk/status/1373372389363490819?s=21

Free booze in pubs and clubs for all for a week in August should solve the problem.

Incels won't be going. They will be sitting in their underpants in their bedroom complaining online that women don't deserve them.

The growing number of incels is a very serious problem IMO.

In my opinion, they need to get offline, have a shower, dress and groom themselves properly, then treat women with respect, and to be a good listener. It is a simple formula that works.

That isn't the problem IMO. The problem is women have been told they should only accept their perfect idea of a male partner, or something very close to it.

He's old, introverted and sheltered, he has no conception

https://twitter.com/RosamundUrwin/status/1373388023077998598

YEs!!!!!!

Well done France!

[Moderated] the Welsh.

tlg86 said:

Ha ha ha. Poor Wales.

Luck finally ran out for them. Ironically probably their best game too.

Andy_JS said:

Foxy said:

Andy_JS said:

Foxy said:

Time_to_Leave said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The incel thing definitely seems to be a thing, but one wonders whether the pasty, overweight Nazi chicken comes before you think I’d shag that egg.

https://twitter.com/tejmuk/status/1373372389363490819?s=21

Free booze in pubs and clubs for all for a week in August should solve the problem.

Incels won't be going. They will be sitting in their underpants in their bedroom complaining online that women don't deserve them.

The growing number of incels is a very serious problem IMO.

In my opinion, they need to get offline, have a shower, dress and groom themselves properly, then treat women with respect, and to be a good listener. It is a simple formula that works.

That isn't the problem IMO. The problem is women have been told they should only accept their perfect idea of a male partner, or something very close to it.

Well they should target perfection. And we should aim to provide that for them.

Rugby? Seriously?

Whatever turns you on, guys

Superb sport

Well done both teams

Andy_JS said:

Foxy said:

Andy_JS said:

Foxy said:

Time_to_Leave said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The incel thing definitely seems to be a thing, but one wonders whether the pasty, overweight Nazi chicken comes before you think I’d shag that egg.

https://twitter.com/tejmuk/status/1373372389363490819?s=21

Free booze in pubs and clubs for all for a week in August should solve the problem.

Incels won't be going. They will be sitting in their underpants in their bedroom complaining online that women don't deserve them.

The growing number of incels is a very serious problem IMO.

In my opinion, they need to get offline, have a shower, dress and groom themselves properly, then treat women with respect, and to be a good listener. It is a simple formula that works.

That isn't the problem IMO. The problem is women have been told they should only accept their perfect idea of a male partner, or something very close to it.

In that case men need to make an effort.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Allons enfants de la Patrie,

Le jour de gloire est arrivé !

Contre nous de la tyrannie

L'étendard sanglant est levé, (bis)

Entendez-vous dans les campagnes

Mugir ces féroces soldats ?

Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras

Égorger vos fils, vos compagnes !

Good moaning!

I brung you a massage: The Frunch have won the Rigby match against the Wulsh!

So TSE had the French to thank for his day not being completely miserable.

Although if I read the table aright Wales should still take the trophy unless France beat Scotland by something crazy like 25 points.

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Well done France. Attempting to play expansive football at all times means they don't look like headless chickens when they need a quick score.
Literally millimetres away from a Grand Slam game against Scotland.
DuPont is the best player in Europe by a country mile. Everything goes through him. Quick, decisive, and, crucially, almost always the correct decision.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Reports tonight HMG to take over the running of Liverpool

Well to be fair Klopp could probably use a hand right now.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Reports tonight HMG to take over the running of Liverpool

They would probably do better than Klopp to be fair.

Black_Rook said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Reports tonight HMG to take over the running of Liverpool

Well to be fair Klopp could probably use a hand right now.

Klopp out! Gavin Williamson in!
Northern Premier League soon.

Leon said:

Freggles said:

kle4 said:

solarflare said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/Reagantrose/status/1237213429137420288

This week I haves been mostly eating...BOURBON BISCUITS

I only eat biscuits named for historical figures, so Bourbons and Garibaldis are basically it.

Nice

So many people forget Sir Alexander Tollemache Carlyon de Chocolate-Hobnob, Admiral of the Blue and renegade leader of the Patagonian Revolutionary War in 1822

You unaccountably forgot the abolitionist baronet, Sir Christopher Kat.

Charles James Fox also possessed biscuits, reputedly.

ydoethur said:

So TSE had the French to thank for his day not being completely miserable.

Although if I read the table aright Wales should still take the trophy unless France beat Scotland by something crazy like 25 points.

If the French get the bonus point against Scotland then France and Wales finish on equal points in the table. That being the case, isn't the title decided in the first instance on the head-to-head rather than points difference? That's what seems to have been implied by the commentators.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

I like how it opens with 'unprecedented in modern times', then immediately undermines that by saying it has happened 3 times in the last 25 years, which is very rare, but not unprecedented.

And what about Anglesey?

The interesting thing as well is such crappy governance is not an automatic result of dominance by a party, as there are plenty of councils well run despite that.

The Greens could end up the largest party in Germany.
https://twitter.com/Wahlen_DE/status/1373394751714697225

Black_Rook said:

ydoethur said:

So TSE had the French to thank for his day not being completely miserable.

Although if I read the table aright Wales should still take the trophy unless France beat Scotland by something crazy like 25 points.

If the French get the bonus point against Scotland then France and Wales finish on equal points in the table. That being the case, isn't the title decided in the first instance on the head-to-head rather than points difference? That's what seems to have been implied by the commentators.

Should be points difference, AIUI.

williamglenn said:

The Greens could end up the largest party in Germany.
https://twitter.com/Wahlen_DE/status/1373394751714697225

More significantly perhaps.
The Union could end up in opposition.

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

Manchester City Council will be feeling pretty smug right about now.

Maybe the Liberal (not Liberal Democrats) Party can build on their strength in Liverpool from this

Nigelb said:

Leon said:

Freggles said:

kle4 said:

solarflare said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/Reagantrose/status/1237213429137420288

This week I haves been mostly eating...BOURBON BISCUITS

I only eat biscuits named for historical figures, so Bourbons and Garibaldis are basically it.

Nice

So many people forget Sir Alexander Tollemache Carlyon de Chocolate-Hobnob, Admiral of the Blue and renegade leader of the Patagonian Revolutionary War in 1822

You unaccountably forgot the abolitionist baronet, Sir Christopher Kat.

Charles James Fox also possessed biscuits, reputedly.

I thought Kit Kats were named after the club in Cabaret.

Black_Rook said:

Time_to_Leave said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Seems odd not to hand it over to the City Region?

Presumably not done because the metro mayors are neither elected to take over the running of local authorities nor resourced to do so? I'm assuming that the process for central government to supplant the executive functions of councils is also defined in law.

Maybe, but it feels like something we should have done to empower the intermediate layers of Gvt (if we’re going to have them). You could send them the specialist DCLG advisers and in any case you’d mostly lean on the existing local officials.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1373390636372623369?s=20

Black_Rook said:

ydoethur said:

Black_Rook said:

ydoethur said:

So TSE had the French to thank for his day not being completely miserable.

Although if I read the table aright Wales should still take the trophy unless France beat Scotland by something crazy like 25 points.

If the French get the bonus point against Scotland then France and Wales finish on equal points in the table. That being the case, isn't the title decided in the first instance on the head-to-head rather than points difference? That's what seems to have been implied by the commentators.

Should be points difference, AIUI.

My bad, you're right. It would therefore appear that France need to put four tries past Scotland and win by a margin of 21 points.

Well, if they managed the first against us it shouldn’t be out of the question against Scotland.

But it isn’t exactly a gimme to have a 21 point margin,

kle4 said:

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

Manchester City Council will be feeling pretty smug right about now.

Maybe the Liberal (not Liberal Democrats) Party can build on their strength in Liverpool from this

And how does Starmer explain it all

ydoethur said:

Black_Rook said:

Time_to_Leave said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Seems odd not to hand it over to the City Region?

Presumably not done because the metro mayors are neither elected to take over the running of local authorities nor resourced to do so? I'm assuming that the process for central government to supplant the executive functions of councils is also defined in law.

Well, at the moment the Metro Mayor situation in Liverpool is more than a bit complicated in itself.

I thought all the brouhaha over mayors in Liverpool pertained to the city mayor (who may have been naughty) and not the metro mayor (who AFAIK is not implicated in anything untoward) - unless there are other things going on of which I have yet to read?

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

For most of the 2010s Joe Anderson kept on railing about how Tory 'austerity' was forcing him to cut essential services in Liverpool.

Yet Mayor Anderson found the resources to give Everton FC a £250 million loan for their new football stadium.

Would you be shocked to learn that Anderson is a Everton fan?

Black_Rook said:

ydoethur said:

Black_Rook said:

Time_to_Leave said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Seems odd not to hand it over to the City Region?

Presumably not done because the metro mayors are neither elected to take over the running of local authorities nor resourced to do so? I'm assuming that the process for central government to supplant the executive functions of councils is also defined in law.

Well, at the moment the Metro Mayor situation in Liverpool is more than a bit complicated in itself.

I thought all the brouhaha over mayors in Liverpool pertained to the city mayor (who may have been naughty) and not the metro mayor (who AFAIK is not implicated in anything untoward) - unless there are other things going on of which I have yet to read?

You’re right, my mistake.

Black_Rook said:

ydoethur said:

Black_Rook said:

Time_to_Leave said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Seems odd not to hand it over to the City Region?

Presumably not done because the metro mayors are neither elected to take over the running of local authorities nor resourced to do so? I'm assuming that the process for central government to supplant the executive functions of councils is also defined in law.

Well, at the moment the Metro Mayor situation in Liverpool is more than a bit complicated in itself.

I thought all the brouhaha over mayors in Liverpool pertained to the city mayor (who may have been naughty) and not the metro mayor (who AFAIK is not implicated in anything untoward) - unless there are other things going on of which I have yet to read?

Another sign we needed a different name for these different positions.

In Bristol there was the Mayor of Bristol, the Lord Mayor of Bristol, and the West of England Mayor. I think someone even proposed a fourth kind of mayor.

MikeSmithson said:

alex_ said:

Re: London mayor race (and extended to elections in general). Is there any rule against a candidate changing their name to “None Oftheabove” and chancing their luck?

If they did they would need a surname that ensured them the bottom slot.

Nuncos Zesebastardsareuseless should cover it.

Cookie said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

williamglenn said:

The Greens could end up the largest party in Germany.
https://twitter.com/Wahlen_DE/status/1373394751714697225

Union? Who are Union?

CDU/CSU

Oh I see, so they're properly "Merged" for this election?

Big_G_NorthWales said:

kle4 said:

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

Manchester City Council will be feeling pretty smug right about now.

Maybe the Liberal (not Liberal Democrats) Party can build on their strength in Liverpool from this

And how does Starmer explain it all

In defence of Starmer, local government is hard to control. Tory councils across the land don't shy away from railing against the government when it is convenient, and poorly run Labour councils would I imagine be very hard to rein in by the national party.

ydoethur said:

justin124 said:

Andy_JS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Leon said:

Foxy said:

Time_to_Leave said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The incel thing definitely seems to be a thing, but one wonders whether the pasty, overweight Nazi chicken comes before you think I’d shag that egg.

https://twitter.com/tejmuk/status/1373372389363490819?s=21

Free booze in pubs and clubs for all for a week in August should solve the problem.

Incels won't be going. They will be sitting in their underpants in their bedroom complaining online that women don't deserve them.

That's quite a lot of unwanted human misery which you are happily chortling at.

Is it possible to dabble in Celibacy because one is, shall we say, "just curious"?

Yes but they wouldn't count as an incel.

What about those who rely on masturbation?

Dre I make a cutting remark about Gavin Williamson?

It would be most out of character.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Cookie said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

williamglenn said:

The Greens could end up the largest party in Germany.
https://twitter.com/Wahlen_DE/status/1373394751714697225

Union? Who are Union?

CDU/CSU

Oh I see, so they're properly "Merged" for this election?

They function as sister parties. CSU only stands candidates in Bavaria, CDU throughout Germany except in Bavaria. I don't know why there's a formal split. AIUI, however, CSU is slightly more conservative.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Black_Rook said:

kle4 said:

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

Manchester City Council will be feeling pretty smug right about now.

Maybe the Liberal (not Liberal Democrats) Party can build on their strength in Liverpool from this

Nah, Liverpool Labour is indestructible. Besides anything else, once the Evil Tories send their stooges in to take over the show, the Labour councillors can act as an opposition and blame the central Government for everything that happens in the city.

Actually as I understand it commissioners sent in to run LA's negates the powers of local politicians

Yes, but eventually they will get powers back, and they can help maintain their numbers, if they needed any help, by blaming the government day in day out until the election, and the lot of them can sit there sullenly until those powers are back, then blame the gov again.

kle4 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

kle4 said:

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

Manchester City Council will be feeling pretty smug right about now.

Maybe the Liberal (not Liberal Democrats) Party can build on their strength in Liverpool from this

And how does Starmer explain it all

In defence of Starmer, local government is hard to control. Tory councils across the land don't shy away from railing against the government when it is convenient, and poorly run Labour councils would I imagine be very hard to rein in by the national party.

Indeed but how can he even support Labour in local government in Liverpool

Also are there not serious criminal allegations at present

Black_Rook said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Cookie said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

williamglenn said:

The Greens could end up the largest party in Germany.
https://twitter.com/Wahlen_DE/status/1373394751714697225

Union? Who are Union?

CDU/CSU

Oh I see, so they're properly "Merged" for this election?

They function as sister parties. CSU only stands candidates in Bavaria, CDU throughout Germany except in Bavaria. I don't know why there's a formal split. AIUI, however, CSU is slightly more conservative.

Yes, I know all that, but that graph is the first time I've seen them NOT referred to as "CDU/CSU".

kle4 said:

ydoethur said:

justin124 said:

Andy_JS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Leon said:

Foxy said:

Time_to_Leave said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The incel thing definitely seems to be a thing, but one wonders whether the pasty, overweight Nazi chicken comes before you think I’d shag that egg.

https://twitter.com/tejmuk/status/1373372389363490819?s=21

Free booze in pubs and clubs for all for a week in August should solve the problem.

Incels won't be going. They will be sitting in their underpants in their bedroom complaining online that women don't deserve them.

That's quite a lot of unwanted human misery which you are happily chortling at.

Is it possible to dabble in Celibacy because one is, shall we say, "just curious"?

Yes but they wouldn't count as an incel.

What about those who rely on masturbation?

Dre I make a cutting remark about Gavin Williamson?

It would be most out of character.

Well, yes, given my famous mildness and restraint it would be.

But he is trying my patience at the moment.

kle4 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Black_Rook said:

kle4 said:

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

Manchester City Council will be feeling pretty smug right about now.

Maybe the Liberal (not Liberal Democrats) Party can build on their strength in Liverpool from this

Nah, Liverpool Labour is indestructible. Besides anything else, once the Evil Tories send their stooges in to take over the show, the Labour councillors can act as an opposition and blame the central Government for everything that happens in the city.

Actually as I understand it commissioners sent in to run LA's negates the powers of local politicians

Yes, but eventually they will get powers back, and they can help maintain their numbers, if they needed any help, by blaming the government day in day out until the election, and the lot of them can sit there sullenly until those powers are back, then blame the gov again.

One report suggests the commissioners could be in place for several years

Gallowgate said:

Local government in this country is a complete joke

In what way? I thought the Liverpool situation was due to the current Mayor being under arrest on corruption charges.

Gallowgate said:

Local government in this country is a complete joke

Well, a Lee Hurst sort of joke. Crude, offensive, badly thought out, not actually funny and totally counterproductive.

And on that cheerful note, good night.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

kle4 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

kle4 said:

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Wow.

The Government is poised to take over the running of the city of Liverpool this week after a string of corruption allegations, The Telegraph can disclose.

The expected decision by the Local Government secretary Robert Jenrick to intervene in the running of one of the UK's biggest cities is unprecedented in modern times.

Commissioners could be sent in to run the day-to-day operations of the council for several years, something which has only happened three times in the past 25 years.

Commissioners were sent in by the Government to take over the running of councils in Northampton in 2018, Rotherham in 2015 and Towers Hamlets in 2014. None of them was the scale of a city like Liverpool, however.

Max Caller, a respected local government inspector who was the commissioner in Tower Hamlets, was appointed by Mr Jenrick to lead the investigation into Liverpool last December.

Mr Caller focused his investigation on property management, regeneration, highways, contracts and planning at the council over the past five years.

The Telegraph understands that Mr Jenrick has now received the final report and recommendations from Mr Caller.

He will make a final decision on what action to take this week before the formal purdah period begins ahead of the local government elections. It is likely that Mr Jenrick will order commissioners into Liverpool.

Mr Caller has already briefed local MPs in the area about the findings which will be published this week. His report is understood to contain a “damning indictment of the council”.

Councillors will still be elected in Liverpool but could cede executive powers to the commissioners for as long as they are appointed.

The city's accounts have not been signed off by auditors for the past five years because of the continuing police inquiry into "financial irregularities".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/20/ministers-poised-run-liverpool/

Husband tells me that failure to get accounts signed off is a very serious matter. If the auditors have failed to do it for five years straight then I'm somewhat surprised that measures haven't been taken in Liverpool before now.

Manchester City Council will be feeling pretty smug right about now.

Maybe the Liberal (not Liberal Democrats) Party can build on their strength in Liverpool from this

And how does Starmer explain it all

In defence of Starmer, local government is hard to control. Tory councils across the land don't shy away from railing against the government when it is convenient, and poorly run Labour councils would I imagine be very hard to rein in by the national party.

Indeed but how can he even support Labour in local government in Liverpool

Also are there not serious criminal allegations at present

Wait until you hear about Northamptonshire council.

Or Northampton borough council.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/northampton-town-extinction-missing-millions

Gallowgate said:

RobD said:

Gallowgate said:

Local government in this country is a complete joke

In what way? I thought the Liverpool situation was due to the current Mayor being under arrest on corruption charges.

Just incompetent on every level.

Well, I think that's a bit of an overstatement.

Made me smile.

Reminds me of :Con Gain Bottle @Ave_it .

https://twitter.com/JonTonge/status/1373403551502888963

RobD said:

Gallowgate said:

Local government in this country is a complete joke

In what way? I thought the Liverpool situation was due to the current Mayor being under arrest on corruption charges.

Seems to be more to it given the statement about the signing off of their accounts. But I think a lot of local government gets on, quietly, with a pretty decent job. It was cut back hard by austerity (there was a lot of wood to cut, but it may have gone a little too far) but those local politician's I've seen are often less partisan than national equivalents (obviously this is not the case everywhere) and it can be pretty thankless as there are many national dictats (for good and ill) which people don't like which councils have to follow (I've had a leaflet today which rather boldly proclaims in response to local housing matters and national rules 'X needs protecting. if the government won't do it, then we will').

Parishes are the real wild west, despite having minimal power. There's so much that could be going on that is unlawful, deliberately or through lack of knowledge, and it'd be hard to discover it or challenge it.