After the damaging spat with Salmond can Sturgeon lead the SNP to a Holyrood majority on May 4th? –

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

TimT said:

rpjs said:

Stocky said:

kinabalu said:

Stocky said:

contrarian said:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-mark-drakeford-wales-lockdown-20079164

Drakeford:

June 21 freedom is 'fanciful'

LOL

1) Drakeford is another example of politicking a national emergency. He's clearly concerned that if the notion that we're out of the woods takes hold he'll have less to criticise the government about.
2) Johnson's date of June 21 is not a "return to normal" date it is an end of legal restrictions date; not the same thing. There will likely still be guidance but we shall be free to ignore it if we wish.

Noooo - your exotic apostrophes have gone!

Too right. The shame

I've stuck a lump of blue tac on the rogue ` button. What the F is it for anyway?

It deliminates string literals in some programming languages, most notably Javascript. IIRC back in my IBM mainframe days it had some important usage there.

Single quotes within double quotes? At least on old-fashioned typewriters rather than the vertical ' on computer keyboards

Yeah something like that. In JS the backticks are useful because you can include line breaks and do template substitution within them, which you couldn't do with regular strings. E.g.

const fullName = `${foreName}
${surname}`;

algarkirk said:

kinabalu said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

Should I risk looking a total dilettante by attempting an answer? WTF not!

Ok, so whisky from Scotland is not "Scotch whisky". It's scotch.

The "scotch" here is not an adjective, it's a noun that means whisky from Scotland, or Scottish whisky.

The Scotch Whisky Association seem to have their own thoughts on the matter, judging by their own title.

And every single bottle of Scotch whisky, which reads Scotch whisky on the label.

'Scotch' as a phrase is just an American thing.

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

West British is normally a pejorative term applied to Anglophile Irish people.

Luckyguy1983 said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Anyhoo, Scotch Tories yet again having a normal one.

https://twitter.com/AMachaggis/status/1369781543376404482?s=20

What is in the water in Scotland these days?

You've got that bellend, I've seen people claim the Scots are being oppressed by the Brits/English on a scale not seen since India or Ireland.

I've seen some people say Leslie Evans is the wife of the head of MI5 and it is all a BritNat conspiracy to frame Salmond.

The politics of division, as typified by Mr Divvie. The SNP are the genuine nasty party in these islands. They are driven by spite, unpleasantness, and fake history where they gloss over the fact that of all Britain's leading colonialists, the Scots, like all areas of the British establishment, were massively overrepresented. They were not the colonised, but the colonisers.

But they also gloss over things like the Scottish Enlightenment - huge contributions made by Scots to the world, after apparently being made a colonial backwater by the hated English.

They don't. They just don't go on and on and on and on about history, selected or otherwise. Not going on and on and on about Churchill and Spitfires, for instance.

And Hume has had his first statue in Edinburgh (or anywhere?) put up quite recently!

williamglenn said:

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

West British is normally a pejorative term applied to Anglophile Irish people.

Oh, is it? Never knew that, thank you. That's my "new thing learnt on PB for the day".

TheScreamingEagles said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

Many many years ago I had a client who hired an external consultant from South Korea to look at developing brand strategies and organisational labels.

He came up with this brilliant idea to follow the Greater London/Greater Manchester idea and create the concept of Greater England, which would have put Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland in Greater England, whilst England remained England.

I wish his ideas had been instigated, mostly for the LOLZ as the reactions of the Scots, Irish, and Welsh were classed as people from Greater England.

As a matter of fact, there were some Scots who did take to describing themselves as English following the Union. 'England' did become a catch all phrase for some, at the height of Victorian pomp, and I think that the legacy of that is partly why Americans even to this day often call us all 'English'. It would definitely have TUD and Carnyx reaching for the airsick bag.

MaxPB said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/marcburleigh/status/1370062068930461697

Surely with 6% of French cases being the SA/BR variants means that France and the rest of Europe needs to go into the managed quarantine programme? That's a huge proportion.

The message to take is that we can't keep these variants out through quarantine. Either the vaccines will suppress them, or we need another round of vaccinations in the Autumn.

Carnyx said:

williamglenn said:

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

West British is normally a pejorative term applied to Anglophile Irish people.

Oh, is it? Never knew that, thank you. That's my "new thing learnt on PB for the day".

There's a wikipedia page about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Brit

Black_Rook said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Fairliered said:

Putting my non-partisan hat back on: would the UK Government be willing to give up tax and spending powers, i.e. devo max?

Does tax and spend strike you as getting to the heart of the matter? With my limited experience (as a PB Scotch expert), it doesn't seem like it to me. I think it would just encourage drift (possibly why you favour it ).

I think that something like a veto on foreign policy would do a lot more to strengthen the Union. Let's say there's a Council of the Home Nations. It comprises the leaders of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and possibly of London. Major foreign policy things could be voted upon. So, for example, there would be times when Scotland, Wales, NI could outvote the other two, but other times when other combinations won the day. Of course, population-wise, even if you separate London, it is not fair to the English, but it sort of seems right that at times of going to war, etc., we should do something like this.

Because "more powers" has always worked before!

Oh.

I agree, that hasn't worked, because the additional resources have been enthusiastically used to undermine the Union. However, I wouldn't really see this as something that could be subverted to aid Scottish separation - I'd see it as a renewal of the way the UK works from a holistic perspective. Yes, it would answer (imo) some significant concerns in Scotland about being 'ruled' by Governments that so many had voted against, but I'd also envisage it as a way of all the home nations buying in when there was a momentous decision.

It would be interesting to see from our Scot Nats particularly whether the idea holds any appeal.

Also, realistically, does Boris actually have the power to do another Iraq? In reality is he not constrained from exercising that power, even on the basis of a WM vote, by the delicacy of the Union settlement? If he doesn't have the power, why wear the trappings - why not enshrine a more co-operative approach?

TheScreamingEagles said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

Many many years ago I had a client who hired an external consultant from South Korea to look at developing brand strategies and organisational labels.

He came up with this brilliant idea to follow the Greater London/Greater Manchester idea and create the concept of Greater England, which would have put Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland in Greater England, whilst England remained England.

I wish his ideas had been instigated, mostly for the LOLZ as the reactions of the Scots, Irish, and Welsh were classed as people from Greater England.

Could just have gone the whole hog and called it the Greater English Realm of the English Nation. There is a precedent after all.

Großgermanisches Reich der Deutschen Nation

williamglenn said:

Carnyx said:

williamglenn said:

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

West British is normally a pejorative term applied to Anglophile Irish people.

Oh, is it? Never knew that, thank you. That's my "new thing learnt on PB for the day".

There's a wikipedia page about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Brit

It's also used non-pejoratively by the "most important" Cornish newspaper

https://local.reachsolutions.co.uk/brands/west-briton/

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

WTF?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9351793/Police-officer-arrested-kidnap-murder-Sarah-Everard-cell-head-injuries.html

So he either

1) Slipped and fell and hit his head?

or

2) Self harm?

or

3) The other coppers went full Sweeney on him?

or

4) Medical episode?

Or something else.

Police officer nabbed for that list of offenses? I'd go with self-harm, or more likely attempted suicide.

Theuniondivvie said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

Many many years ago I had a client who hired an external consultant from South Korea to look at developing brand strategies and organisational labels.

He came up with this brilliant idea to follow the Greater London/Greater Manchester idea and create the concept of Greater England, which would have put Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland in Greater England, whilst England remained England.

I wish his ideas had been instigated, mostly for the LOLZ as the reactions of the Scots, Irish, and Welsh were classed as people from Greater England.

Could just have gone the whole hog and called it the Greater English Realm of the English Nation. There is a precedent after all.

Großgermanisches Reich der Deutschen Nation

To be a precedent, would that not have to be the GroßPreußiches Reich der Preußenen Nation?

(apologies to any Germans - blame Google translate)

Theuniondivvie said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

WTF?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9351793/Police-officer-arrested-kidnap-murder-Sarah-Everard-cell-head-injuries.html

So he either

1) Slipped and fell and hit his head?

or

2) Self harm?

or

3) The other coppers went full Sweeney on him?

or

4) Medical episode?

Or something else.

I'd plump for 2.

Same, I'm told prison is a horrific experience for ex police officers, even being remanded isn't fun.

CorrectHorseBattery said:

This is why the details of an accused should not be released

Do you think he's seen the papers? My guess would be probably not.

algarkirk said:

kinabalu said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

Should I risk looking a total dilettante by attempting an answer? WTF not!

Ok, so whisky from Scotland is not "Scotch whisky". It's scotch.

The "scotch" here is not an adjective, it's a noun that means whisky from Scotland, or Scottish whisky.

The Scotch Whisky Association seem to have their own thoughts on the matter, judging by their own title.

I will contact them and point out their error.

MaxPB said:

Andy_Cooke said:

MaxPB said:

Almost 2k LFT positives in today's figures. Not surprised that PHE have made the data public becuase those tests are, IMO, worthless. The false positive/negative rate on them is far too high to be counted the same as a PCR positive.

This is exactly what I feared would happen, we get a whole bunch of pointless tests pushing up the perceived infection rate. Soon we'll get the usual suspects like that idiot zero COVID Scottish woman talking about how risky the current timetable is etc...

We really shouldn't have bothered with this strategy and just done it without the tests and had weekly PCR testing for teachers as a reduction in transmission vector.

False positive rates on LFTs can't be higher than the total positive rate.
For the 8th of March (latest date to be sure almost all data is in), there were 1,481,812 LFTs given in England to provide 1,012 positives. Thus a positive rate under 0.07%.

Therefore a false positive rate of, at the very worst, under 0.07%
That ain't bad, I'd have said.

I mean in absolute terms because of such a huge number of tests it can add up and make something from nothing. The whole LFT scheme just seems needless and looking for trouble that doesn't exist.

I don't think that's right. LFT tests might well catch a local outbreak well before it becomes obvious otherwise.

Yes, false positives have to be factored in to any analysis, but that's not hard to do, especially if PCR tests are done to confirm any LFT positives.

Weird weather watch. I'd describe that as unwashed tripe.

https://twitter.com/slowberlin/status/1370063743246290947?s=20

Black_Rook said:

Essex, incidentally, is not part of East Anglia. So there.

As if we want to be pumped in with the web fingered ones

Chris said:

MaxPB said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/marcburleigh/status/1370062068930461697

Surely with 6% of French cases being the SA/BR variants means that France and the rest of Europe needs to go into the managed quarantine programme? That's a huge proportion.

The message to take is that we can't keep these variants out through quarantine. Either the vaccines will suppress them, or we need another round of vaccinations in the Autumn.

Maybe, or while we don't have those vaccine boosters ready we ramp up border controls so our own internal reopening isn't threatened. I'd rather have a completely closed external border and a fully open internal economy than another lockdown.

Fenn Poly?

https://twitter.com/paul_lever/status/1370070410776227841?s=21

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

It seems to me that the only people who identify first as British are unionists in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most English people of my acquaintance identify as English first and British second, if at all.

MaxPB said:

Chris said:

MaxPB said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/marcburleigh/status/1370062068930461697

Surely with 6% of French cases being the SA/BR variants means that France and the rest of Europe needs to go into the managed quarantine programme? That's a huge proportion.

The message to take is that we can't keep these variants out through quarantine. Either the vaccines will suppress them, or we need another round of vaccinations in the Autumn.

Maybe, or while we don't have those vaccine boosters ready we ramp up border controls so our own internal reopening isn't threatened. I'd rather have a completely closed external border and a fully open internal economy than another lockdown.

What's the difference between your strategy and the 'zero Covid idiots'?

Fairliered said:

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

It seems to me that the only people who identify first as British are unionists in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most English people of my acquaintance identify as English first and British second, if at all.

That surprises me. It's the opposite in my case.

Fairliered said:

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

It seems to me that the only people who identify first as British are unionists in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most English people of my acquaintance identify as English first and British second, if at all.

The census will resolve this matter, although since it's been delayed by a year in Scotland a full set of results will be quite a long time in coming. But when they do, they should be instructive.

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/stujames75/status/1370075635226402820

Which of those nasty words do you think he found most disagreeable?

Theuniondivvie said:

Weird weather watch. I'd describe that as unwashed tripe.

https://twitter.com/slowberlin/status/1370063743246290947?s=20

Mammatus.

Saw some this afternoon, although not quite that good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammatus_cloud

GideonWise said:

MaxPB said:

Chris said:

MaxPB said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/marcburleigh/status/1370062068930461697

Surely with 6% of French cases being the SA/BR variants means that France and the rest of Europe needs to go into the managed quarantine programme? That's a huge proportion.

The message to take is that we can't keep these variants out through quarantine. Either the vaccines will suppress them, or we need another round of vaccinations in the Autumn.

Maybe, or while we don't have those vaccine boosters ready we ramp up border controls so our own internal reopening isn't threatened. I'd rather have a completely closed external border and a fully open internal economy than another lockdown.

What's the difference between your strategy and the 'zero Covid idiots'?

I'm not saying we need to have zero COVID, just no risk of lockdowns. Variants bring a risk of lockdown until we're vaccinated against them or there's evidence that t-cells work against them. It's about minimising immediate risks of lockdown, not saying that no one should die or catch it.

Luckyguy1983 said:

Black_Rook said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Fairliered said:

Putting my non-partisan hat back on: would the UK Government be willing to give up tax and spending powers, i.e. devo max?

Does tax and spend strike you as getting to the heart of the matter? With my limited experience (as a PB Scotch expert), it doesn't seem like it to me. I think it would just encourage drift (possibly why you favour it ).

I think that something like a veto on foreign policy would do a lot more to strengthen the Union. Let's say there's a Council of the Home Nations. It comprises the leaders of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and possibly of London. Major foreign policy things could be voted upon. So, for example, there would be times when Scotland, Wales, NI could outvote the other two, but other times when other combinations won the day. Of course, population-wise, even if you separate London, it is not fair to the English, but it sort of seems right that at times of going to war, etc., we should do something like this.

Because "more powers" has always worked before!

Oh.

I agree, that hasn't worked, because the additional resources have been enthusiastically used to undermine the Union. However, I wouldn't really see this as something that could be subverted to aid Scottish separation - I'd see it as a renewal of the way the UK works from a holistic perspective. Yes, it would answer (imo) some significant concerns in Scotland about being 'ruled' by Governments that so many had voted against, but I'd also envisage it as a way of all the home nations buying in when there was a momentous decision.

It would be interesting to see from our Scot Nats particularly whether the idea holds any appeal.

Also, realistically, does Boris actually have the power to do another Iraq? In reality is he not constrained from exercising that power, even on the basis of a WM vote, by the delicacy of the Union settlement? If he doesn't have the power, why wear the trappings - why not enshrine a more co-operative approach?

We discussed that in 2012-2014 and I pointed out at the time that Mr Cameron would have won at a canter in indyref 1 if [edit] federalism, of which this would be a component, had been offered as an option to full indy or none at all. But he wouldn't and the debate has moved on since then. One reason is all those promises of more home rule, federalism, etc. in 2014 turnewd out to be worthless. They'd have to be implemented before indyref 2 to have any effect. And you'd need to keep the Tory backbenchers in line.

Also we realised we couldn't get past the need to do an A/S Heptarchy on England to stop it dominating the UK, which you are admitting the need of in embryo by separating out London.

Luckyguy1983 said:

Fairliered said:

Carnyx said:

CarlottaVance said:

Theuniondivvie said:

RobD said:

Carnyx said:

DougSeal said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Labour will make something of a comeback in Scotland, I think.

I actually think so too, the new leader and that MSP questioning Sturgeon in the inquiry are both significant improvements on the previous team in Scotland. I think the Tories will hold on as well because Murray seems to be up to the job, the level of vitriol from the Nats on here against both unionists leaders (Lab/Tory) shows they now fear the result in May where they didn't under the previous leaders of both Scottish parties.

It's all slipping away from the SNP and as that happens the bitterness levels will only increase from them and their supporters.

Eh? Mr Murray is a Labour MP. Mind, it can be difficult to tell the difference with him and the Tories sometimes.

I think its Douglas Ross, currently MP for Moray, that's being referred to. I saw someone refer to him on twitter as Forres Gump recently which tickled me.

Never change, PB Scotch experts!

Scotch doesn't refer to people. It is used as a compound - Scotch pine or Scotch whisky. Not people. You of all people should know that. Indeed the fact you don't makes me wonder if you are, in fact, Scottish.

Scots irony is often very difficult for non-Scots to cope with.

Random question, but if whisky from Scotland is Scotch whisky, why aren't people from Scotland called Scotch people?

It is an archaic term for people from Scotland, certainly predating it being applied to whisky. For a while (before my time) Scots took offence at its use. Strangely it seems to be certain non Scottish types who are now triggered by Scots using it.

Lets just stick with "North British" and keep everybody happy!

The problem with that is that the English refused to use South British. (Not sure about the West bit - how that was supposed to be divvied up.)

It seems to me that the only people who identify first as British are unionists in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most English people of my acquaintance identify as English first and British second, if at all.

That surprises me. It's the opposite in my case.

It surprises me as well - I`m with you.

MaxPB said:

Chris said:

MaxPB said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/marcburleigh/status/1370062068930461697

Surely with 6% of French cases being the SA/BR variants means that France and the rest of Europe needs to go into the managed quarantine programme? That's a huge proportion.

The message to take is that we can't keep these variants out through quarantine. Either the vaccines will suppress them, or we need another round of vaccinations in the Autumn.

Maybe, or while we don't have those vaccine boosters ready we ramp up border controls so our own internal reopening isn't threatened. I'd rather have a completely closed external border and a fully open internal economy than another lockdown.

I agree but I am not sure to what extent it is possible. Also dream of my WIfe being able to visit her Mum in the States for either Thanksgiving or Christmas.

CorrectHorseBattery said:

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1370082091719794693

Jesus when you agree with Nick Ferrari.

Shaun Bailey is a joke - and a lot worse than Khan

He's triple downing on it I see, not content with doubling down.

noneoftheabove said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

noneoftheabove said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Black_Rook said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Anyhoo, Scotch Tories yet again having a normal one.

https://twitter.com/AMachaggis/status/1369781543376404482?s=20

What is in the water in Scotland these days?

You've got that bellend, I've seen people claim the Scots are being oppressed by the Brits/English on a scale not seen since India or Ireland.

I've seen some people say Leslie Evans is the wife of the head of MI5 and it is all a BritNat conspiracy to frame Salmond.

Radicalisation.

It is happening more and more.

I have a friend of a friend, who I kinda know, she has been furloughed for most of the last year, so she spent a lot of time on YouTube watching normal stuff and then got into the conspiracy theory stuff.

She's refusing to get the vaccine because it's all a con to control us by Bill Gates and George Soros.

To be fair Microsoft shares are up 60% since the pandemic started - what more PROOF do you want????

Microsoft haven't been able to release a decent operating system since 3.1, there's no way they have the talent to fake a pandemic then develop the technology to control our minds and bodies via a 'vaccine'.

Why do you think that is???? THINK about it, the operating systems are only poor as they diverted all their best people into covid almost three decades ago!!!

If Windows was any good it wouldn't take 15 minutes to boot, need patching every month with "security updates" and nor would it take 3-4 minutes to open a MS Office 365 file.

It's just one of the earliest digital monopolies that, frankly, needs competitive new market alternatives.

TimT said:

Flatlander said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Weird weather watch. I'd describe that as unwashed tripe.

https://twitter.com/slowberlin/status/1370063743246290947?s=20

Mammatus.

Saw some this afternoon, although not quite that good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammatus_cloud

The most extraordinary clouds I have seen were over our back field. Low parallel horizontal cylinders rotating around the horizontal axis as the whole cloud formation moved perpendicularly to the cylinders. Only ever seen it once.

I think they are called cloud streets:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https://www.stroudiecentral.co.uk/2018/08/24/amazing-clouds-over-stroud/&psig=AOvVaw18h2exuEh_jPeJwa6Q0Rqb&ust=1615574668750000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCLiF_uPyqO8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAN

GideonWise said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/stujames75/status/1370075635226402820

Which of those nasty words do you think he found most disagreeable?

'a'

TheScreamingEagles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

WTF?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9351793/Police-officer-arrested-kidnap-murder-Sarah-Everard-cell-head-injuries.html

So he either

1) Slipped and fell and hit his head?

or

2) Self harm?

or

3) The other coppers went full Sweeney on him?

or

4) Medical episode?

Or something else.

I'd plump for 2.

Same, I'm told prison is a horrific experience for ex police officers, even being remanded isn't fun.

My sister is a copper.

They are spitting blood because they now know parents will worry if they can trust the police, and especially vulnerable women. And they will get reams of abuse from everyone else.

She doesn't condone it but I reckon a bit of (3) or possibly he was strongly encouraged to do (2) himself. Whisky and Revolver stuff.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

WTF?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9351793/Police-officer-arrested-kidnap-murder-Sarah-Everard-cell-head-injuries.html

So he either

1) Slipped and fell and hit his head?

or

2) Self harm?

or

3) The other coppers went full Sweeney on him?

or

4) Medical episode?

Or something else.

I'd plump for 2.

Same, I'm told prison is a horrific experience for ex police officers, even being remanded isn't fun.

Nobody likes a bent copper.

.

Casino_Royale said:

The only conspiracy I believe with Bill Gates is that he's pushing for us all to eat lab-grown or synthetic vegan meat.

Piss off, Bill.

There will always be a market for the authentic variety, just like with petrol cars. But replacing the ham in your daily sandwich with synthetic stuff? Not sure I see a downside.

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

WTF?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9351793/Police-officer-arrested-kidnap-murder-Sarah-Everard-cell-head-injuries.html

So he either

1) Slipped and fell and hit his head?

or

2) Self harm?

or

3) The other coppers went full Sweeney on him?

or

4) Medical episode?

Or something else.

I'd plump for 2.

Same, I'm told prison is a horrific experience for ex police officers, even being remanded isn't fun.

My sister is a copper.

They are spitting blood because they now know parents will worry if they can trust the police, and especially vulnerable women. And they will get reams of abuse from everyone else.

She doesn't condone it but I reckon a bit of (3) or possibly he was strongly encouraged to do (2) himself. Whisky and Revolver stuff.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he was left alone to top himself.

Luckyguy1983 said:

Carnyx said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Black_Rook said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Fairliered said:

Putting my non-partisan hat back on: would the UK Government be willing to give up tax and spending powers, i.e. devo max?

Does tax and spend strike you as getting to the heart of the matter? With my limited experience (as a PB Scotch expert), it doesn't seem like it to me. I think it would just encourage drift (possibly why you favour it ).

I think that something like a veto on foreign policy would do a lot more to strengthen the Union. Let's say there's a Council of the Home Nations. It comprises the leaders of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and possibly of London. Major foreign policy things could be voted upon. So, for example, there would be times when Scotland, Wales, NI could outvote the other two, but other times when other combinations won the day. Of course, population-wise, even if you separate London, it is not fair to the English, but it sort of seems right that at times of going to war, etc., we should do something like this.

Because "more powers" has always worked before!

Oh.

I agree, that hasn't worked, because the additional resources have been enthusiastically used to undermine the Union. However, I wouldn't really see this as something that could be subverted to aid Scottish separation - I'd see it as a renewal of the way the UK works from a holistic perspective. Yes, it would answer (imo) some significant concerns in Scotland about being 'ruled' by Governments that so many had voted against, but I'd also envisage it as a way of all the home nations buying in when there was a momentous decision.

It would be interesting to see from our Scot Nats particularly whether the idea holds any appeal.

Also, realistically, does Boris actually have the power to do another Iraq? In reality is he not constrained from exercising that power, even on the basis of a WM vote, by the delicacy of the Union settlement? If he doesn't have the power, why wear the trappings - why not enshrine a more co-operative approach?

We discussed that in 2012-2014 and I pointed out at the time that Mr Cameron would have won at a canter in indyref 1 if [edit] federalism, of which this would be a component, had been offered as an option to full indy or none at all. But he wouldn't and the debate has moved on since then. One reason is all those promises of more home rule, federalism, etc. in 2014 turnewd out to be worthless. They'd have to be implemented before indyref 2 to have any effect. And you'd need to keep the Tory backbenchers in line.

Also we realised we couldn't get past the need to do an A/S Heptarchy on England to stop it dominating the UK, which you are admitting the need of in embryo by separating out London.

No, you misunderstand what I am proposing. There is no domination of England, it's one nation one vote. That massively favours the smaller nations. The separation of London simply makes it a little bit fairer to the Englanders (though I suspect London would often vote differently to England), and ensures there are five votes so there would always be a winning side.

And why would any of this be of any interest to the English, and why would we want to be cut to pieces to suit everyone else?

If you want to give federalism a go then you create an English Parliament. If the Union can't survive fair treatment all round then it deserves to die.

RobD said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Is this correct? If so, it could be worth people knowing about it. And does Android have something similar? I'd have thought that it would be better to have one of those motion-detection gestures (like the 'karate chop' which I can use on my phone to switch the light on), because that would be less fiddly in an emergency.

https://twitter.com/AmandaPCraig/status/1370045775753924618

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208076

I did not know that. Thanks

And now, for the lighter side of the news . . .

Politico.com - New York Democrats meet to discuss Cuomo’s future as dozens call for resignation

ALBANY, N.Y. — Democrats with the power to impeach New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo plan to meet privately on Thursday to discuss “potential paths forward” after the emergence of serious new allegations led to a surge in calls for the governor to leave office.

More than 50 Democrats in the state Legislature issued a joint letter on Thursday calling on Cuomo to resign after the Times Union, an Albany newspaper, reported that an unnamed aide had recently accused Cuomo of groping her at the state’s Executive Mansion, where the governor lives.

Cuomo is accused of inappropriate behavior by six women and is also embroiled in scandal over claims his administration hid the number of deaths tied to Covid-19 outbreaks in nursing homes.

“In light of the Governor’s admission of inappropriate behavior and the findings of altered data on nursing home COVID-19 deaths he has lost the confidence of the public and the state legislature, rendering him ineffective in this time of most urgent need,” the Democratic lawmakers wrote in their letter. “We have a Lieutenant Governor who can step in and lead for the remainder of the term, and this is what is best for New Yorkers in this critical time. It is time for Governor Cuomo to resign.”

. . .

Calling for the governor’s resignation is not the same as supporting the politically disruptive process of impeachment. And it’s unlikely the Assembly would move ahead with impeachment unless at least 54 Democrats, a majority, support doing so.

But Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie said his Democratic conference will discuss what to do about Cuomo in a private meeting on Thursday. Options could include impeachment, at least one source said.

“In light of the allegations concerning the Governor over the last several weeks, I will be meeting with members in conference today on potential paths forward,” Heastie said in a Thursday morning statement.

The Times Union on Wednesday night detailed allegations that Cuomo fondled an aide under her blouse late last year when they when they were alone in the governor’s private residence. They followed an initial report from the day prior that the aide had told a supervisor she had been touched without her consent.

The aide told colleagues she was summoned to the Executive Mansion, which is a short walk from the governor's office in the state Capitol, to help him with an issue on his cell phone, the newspaper reported. The allegation is under investigation by state Attorney General Tish James. . . . .

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2021/03/11/new-york-democrats-meet-to-discuss-cuomos-future-as-dozens-call-for-resignation-1367711

Addendum - Andrew Cuomo is toast. Way past time for THIS garbage scow to be towed out to sea and sent to the bottom to finish rotting.

kle4 said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1370082091719794693

Jesus when you agree with Nick Ferrari.

Shaun Bailey is a joke - and a lot worse than Khan

He's triple downing on it I see, not content with doubling down.

I assume he feels he's nothing to lose, and at least he's getting better known as a result, if for the wrong reasons. Trump demonstrated that saying something disgusting can be electorally beneficial, for a while. It'd be a pity if it appeared to pay off, as it will encourage others to follow suit and we'll end up with an auction of who can be most outrageous.

RobD said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Is this correct? If so, it could be worth people knowing about it. And does Android have something similar? I'd have thought that it would be better to have one of those motion-detection gestures (like the 'karate chop' which I can use on my phone to switch the light on), because that would be less fiddly in an emergency.

https://twitter.com/AmandaPCraig/status/1370045775753924618

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208076

You wont find anything like that on Microsoft as their engineers are all working on "other" projects!!!