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Ah ha. That allows me to check certain things and confirm certain suspicions about certain posters. I wonder if I can be bothered? I do hope not.Philip_Thompson said:
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/profile/comments/Stocky?page=p4Stocky said:Help - I want to look back at my posts from a year ago. When I click on "comments" in my record you can page back in time one page at a time. This would take ages to go back 12 months. Is there a faster way?
Put that link into your bar, that loads the 4th page of your posts. Now change that number, eg p40 loads the 40th page which is November last year. p100 loads April last year.
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I'd settle for just standing still as now, but that seems out of reach. Nice to dream for a few days though.Black_Rook said:
It's going to be one of the great political earthquakes of our time!Leon said:I don’t see how she survives this. But this is Scotland
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Before Salmondgate: SNP 70 seats, Greens 6, Imperial Overlords: 53
After Salmondgate: SNP 68 seats, Greens 7, Imperial Overlords: 54
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Margaret Mitchell going on far too long. Hopeless. Speech not a question.0
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It'll be even lower in a couple of days, as everyone today will have stayed home to watch Sturgeon's testimony.turbotubbs said:
Yes - a notably low day for a wednesday.Andy_JS said:Have we had today's jab numbers?
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Uniondivvie - please explain the word 'Scotch'? My grandmother - who was as Scottish as they come - always used the word 'Scots', and suggested in her very Morningside way that 'Scotch', unless one was discussing whiskey, was a word generally used by ignorant Englishmen. But this was a) one person, and b) many years ago and possibly imperfectly remembered. I'd always steered clear of the word, but not actually being Scottish I'd be interested in any nuances you could provide?Theuniondivvie said:
Your membership of the Fraternity of PB Scotch Experts is hereby withdrawn.Leon said:Is this a Nat beating up Sturgeon?
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Jackie Baillie so much better. Simple and forensic.Burgessian said:Margaret Mitchell going on far too long. Hopeless. Speech not a question.
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Banana Republic without the bananas.....Big_G_NorthWales said:The convener is a disgrace
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True. I didn't really have my Labour hat on there. I was more thinking of how it's better for a government if they have a vision and a mandate to deliver it. If they don't the risk is it becomes all soundbites and media spin and the energy of the key players is diverted into ego servicing and grift.Cookie said:
I think if I was Labour that probably isn't the line I'd be taking. The vaccine rollout will see the Tories at the zenith of their popularity, and for Labour, Brexit really needs to be as far in the past as possible. Labour don't want to risk another election on Brexit (particularly as Europe's star hasn't exactly shined of late).kinabalu said:
TBF to them - which is hard but one should try - the pandemic was a black swan event and their mandate from GE19 is simply to govern rather than to do anything in particular. They were elected to implement Leave and for the PM to be "Boris" and not Jeremy Corbyn. That's the extent of it. And it's all done. We should have an election really, once the vaccine rollout is finished.Stuartinromford said:
And that gets to the heart of the matter.Casino_Royale said:
That's how I'd spin it, yes ;-)Philip_Thompson said:
Isn't that because almost towns are marginals? The cities are Labour, the rural areas Tory and the towns are the marginals?Casino_Royale said:Towns Fund Deal. Spot the marginal:
North East: Middlesbrough, Thornaby-On-Tees 46
North West: Preston, Workington, Bolton, Cheadle, Carlisle, Leyland, Southport, Staveley, Rochdale 211
Yorkshire and the Humber: Wakefield, Whitby, Scarborough, Grimsby, Castleford, Goldthorpe, Scunthorpe, Morley, Stocksbridge 199
East Midlands: Newark, Clay Cross, Skegness, Mablethorpe, Boston, Lincoln, Northampton, Mansfield 175
West Midlands: Wolverhampton, Kidsgrove, Rowley Regis, Smethwick, West Bromwich, Burton-on-Trent, Nuneaton 155
East of England: Lowestoft, Colchester, Stevenage, Great Yarmouth, Ipswich, Milton Keynes 148
South East: Crawley, Margate 43
South West: Swindon, Bournemouth 41
The reality is that places like Fareham, Gosport, Alton, Wellington etc. could really use this money too. But, they're not key marginals.
I get it, but it's a bit obvious (I have a bit of inside info on this btw, because I know there was a shortlisting)
All politicians with any sense have balanced wise, principled governance with down'n'dirty electoral pragmatism. If you don't have power, you don't have the chance to change things.
What depresses about the current government is the impression that winning power isn't only a means to an end, but the end in itself.
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Learn how to make things up as you go alomg.kle4 said:
How does one join?Theuniondivvie said:
Your membership of the Fraternity of PB Scotch Experts is hereby withdrawn.Leon said:Is this a Nat beating up Sturgeon?
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Czech Republic has registered 16,642 new cases today, the equivalent of about 106,000 in the UK.
The highest figure the UK has recorded so far was 68,053 on 8th January.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Silly deputy convener woman lost an opportunity there, swithering on.
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And their testing rate is lower than ours....Andy_JS said:Czech Republic has registered 16,642 new cases today, the equivalent of about 106,000 in the UK.
The highest figure the UK has recorded so far was 68,053 on 8th January.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
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It's slow burn stuff, and I do not think it will have much immediate cut through in the way of brief soundbites on the news.kle4 said:I cannot deny that I am looking forward to seeing footage of Sturgeon facing difficulties, but I fear the level of excitement promised by people on here may not be met.
And it's really dull process stuff if you don't care about the separation of powers.
But some of the exchanges were indeed compelling.
Baillie - who has no legal background - is genuinely brilliant in the examination of a witness, in a way Starmer simply isn't.1 -
https://twitter.com/PaulTogneri/status/1367159033627611138?s=20FrancisUrquhart said:
Banana Republic without the bananas.....Big_G_NorthWales said:The convener is a disgrace
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The Converner seems v impressive to me.. far more impressive than the rambling rubbish the other woman got chopped off for.0
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To me, it looks personally vindictive. Like she has an agenda against Salmond. Which, of course, is exactly what she’s accused of. So, yes, a mistakekle4 said:
Is it, in terms of retaining party and public support? People are pretty forgiving of what might be termed procedural cockups or even deliberate behaviour, if they think people were doing the 'right thing'.Leon said:It’s a big mistake for her to keep attacking Salmond
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You don't carry a phone or use a debit card for fear of being tracked?Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
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I think it's a strategic error in that she's declared a fight to the death. Hard to see anyway out for Salmond now than through and he's not going to stop. Maybe this won't have cut through in time for May 2021 but I think today is the day Nicola's dream of being Scotland's first Prime Minister died.kle4 said:
Is it, in terms of retaining party and public support? People are pretty forgiving of what might be termed procedural cockups or even deliberate behaviour, if they think people were doing the 'right thing'.Leon said:It’s a big mistake for her to keep attacking Salmond
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Problem is they are running out of time, pissed about for 2 years waiting on documents to arriveMarqueeMark said:
Can they call back Salmond to add, er, clarifications to the evidence they have heard today?Leon said:
Problem for Sturgeon is that she told so many whoppers, or ‘contradictory statements’ the Committee is obliged to scrutinize them. Moreover, Salmond’s team will be all over them. This is just going to carry on, and on. It’s that kind of thing that does, in the end, lead to a resignationScott_xP said:0 -
Very good analogy. And it was the session after lunch that saw the wickets tumblesarissa said:
It's more of a test match than a T20 knockabout.kle4 said:I cannot deny that I am looking forward to seeing footage of Sturgeon facing difficulties, but I fear the level of excitement promised by people on here may not be met.
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I'd say the government's vision is:kinabalu said:
True. I didn't really have my Labour hat on there. I was more thinking of how it's better for a government if they have a vision and a mandate to deliver it. If they don't the risk is it becomes all soundbites and media spin and the energy of the key players is diverted into ego servicing and grift.Cookie said:
I think if I was Labour that probably isn't the line I'd be taking. The vaccine rollout will see the Tories at the zenith of their popularity, and for Labour, Brexit really needs to be as far in the past as possible. Labour don't want to risk another election on Brexit (particularly as Europe's star hasn't exactly shined of late).kinabalu said:
TBF to them - which is hard but one should try - the pandemic was a black swan event and their mandate from GE19 is simply to govern rather than to do anything in particular. They were elected to implement Leave and for the PM to be "Boris" and not Jeremy Corbyn. That's the extent of it. And it's all done. We should have an election really, once the vaccine rollout is finished.Stuartinromford said:
And that gets to the heart of the matter.Casino_Royale said:
That's how I'd spin it, yes ;-)Philip_Thompson said:
Isn't that because almost towns are marginals? The cities are Labour, the rural areas Tory and the towns are the marginals?Casino_Royale said:Towns Fund Deal. Spot the marginal:
North East: Middlesbrough, Thornaby-On-Tees 46
North West: Preston, Workington, Bolton, Cheadle, Carlisle, Leyland, Southport, Staveley, Rochdale 211
Yorkshire and the Humber: Wakefield, Whitby, Scarborough, Grimsby, Castleford, Goldthorpe, Scunthorpe, Morley, Stocksbridge 199
East Midlands: Newark, Clay Cross, Skegness, Mablethorpe, Boston, Lincoln, Northampton, Mansfield 175
West Midlands: Wolverhampton, Kidsgrove, Rowley Regis, Smethwick, West Bromwich, Burton-on-Trent, Nuneaton 155
East of England: Lowestoft, Colchester, Stevenage, Great Yarmouth, Ipswich, Milton Keynes 148
South East: Crawley, Margate 43
South West: Swindon, Bournemouth 41
The reality is that places like Fareham, Gosport, Alton, Wellington etc. could really use this money too. But, they're not key marginals.
I get it, but it's a bit obvious (I have a bit of inside info on this btw, because I know there was a shortlisting)
All politicians with any sense have balanced wise, principled governance with down'n'dirty electoral pragmatism. If you don't have power, you don't have the chance to change things.
What depresses about the current government is the impression that winning power isn't only a means to an end, but the end in itself.
Coupled with the realisation that, if you take that approach, winning elections is remarkably easy.
1) Get Brexit done - on which whatever your views on the desirability of doing so, they've made big strides since December 2019 - but this issue isn't going to go away or be 'settled' any time soon. This will still take up a lot of government focus.
2) Levelling up - clearly high on the government's to-do list. Too broad a target to hit in one parliament, really, but it is at least a focus to work towards.
1 has been progressed despite the pandemic, 2 may be completely derailed by it.0 -
Yay indeed!CarlottaVance said:Yey! Getting our votes back....
https://twitter.com/BBCJLandale/status/1367125639048871936?s=20
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She's not been too bad - the least worst of the SNP MPs. I'd rate Jackie Baillie (Lab) best, followed by Murdo Fraser (Con). The rest a very mixed bunch. The Lib Dem (Cole-Hamilton) Independent Green (Wightman) and Mitchell (Con) had their moments when they were concise and to the point - which often wasn't often enough, as was demonstrated in the final exchange.squareroot2 said:The Converner seems v impressive to me.. far more impressive than the rambling rubbish the other woman got chopped off for.
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I have a mobile but I see no need to take it with me when I go out, I pay cash mostly. Its not just about tracking. That is merely one reason. Frankly I don't want people ringing me when I am out and about so my mobile stays on the desk. I use cash rather than debit card also for the reason I find it easier to keep track of how much I am spending. Not being trackable are merely additional reasons to do so.kinabalu said:
You don't carry a phone or use a debit card for fear of being tracked?Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.
People complain about the amount of tracking companies and governments do....take responsibilty and if you think its too much data they collect stop allowing them to collect data seems far more sensible than trying to get watertight privacy laws as we know they will be got round1 -
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The highest figure the UK has recorded so far was 68,053 on 8th January.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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I think it's likely we will see a day – possibly two days – of double digits next week now.DougSeal said:I think this is the best Wednesday in
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Nothing could be as thrilling as your breathless commentary of it – why bother with the real thing?Leon said:
The third session of the day (the one before this) - is the one to watchkle4 said:I cannot deny that I am looking forward to seeing footage of Sturgeon facing difficulties, but I fear the level of excitement promised by people on here may not be met.
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I visited Alton once because a family member is a big Jane Austen fan. Personally I've never been able to get beyond about 5 pages of any of her books so I was just going along for the ride.CorrectHorseBattery said:Alton! I used to live just next to it
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Yes, probably. Anyone hoping for Sturgeon to be gone before the election will be disappointed, but no politician recovers from damage of this severity. The aura of invincibility is gone and the moral high ground is a place she'll never visit again.moonshine said:I think it's a strategic error in that she's declared a fight to the death. Hard to see anyway out for Salmond now than through and he's not going to stop. Maybe this won't have cut through in time for May 2021 but I think today is the day Nicola's dream of being Scotland's first Prime Minister died.
In a normal political party the men in grey suits would metaphorically give her a pearl-handled revolver and invite her to make use of it. But I think the SNP is simply too much of a personality cult, so Sturgeon will remain in place and the damage will continue to accrue.
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Pretty well, yes.kle4 said:
Is that really an accurate summary of what she said? That would be remarkable, if he did not know the basis why did he answer that he did? That would be no defence.Leon said:She’s making error after error now
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1367144586867597317?s=21
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Having the option not to is enough.kinabalu said:
You don't carry a phone or use a debit card for fear of being tracked?Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.
I might take my phone with me when I pop to the shop for a pint of milk. And use a debit card for the purchase, I am very happy I have nothing to hide there. But it's reassuring to know that I'm not compelled to do so: I could, if I wanted, leave it at home; and pay with cash at the shop.
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The morning session was largely boring. I almost skipped the rest. I am very glad i didn’t.Anabobazina said:
Nothing could be as thrilling as your breathless commentary of it – why bother with the real thing?Leon said:
The third session of the day (the one before this) - is the one to watchkle4 said:I cannot deny that I am looking forward to seeing footage of Sturgeon facing difficulties, but I fear the level of excitement promised by people on here may not be met.
But you need to watch it all. The tv snippets won’t capture it
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On the subject we were talking about mind, I'm quite torn. I'm a libertarian, but also a transport planner. And road pricing is a very attractive way of solving a lot of the strategic problems we face as a profession.Cookie said:
Having the option not to is enough.kinabalu said:
You don't carry a phone or use a debit card for fear of being tracked?Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.
I might take my phone with me when I pop to the shop for a pint of milk. And use a debit card for the purchase, I am very happy I have nothing to hide there. But it's reassuring to know that I'm not compelled to do so: I could, if I wanted, leave it at home; and pay with cash at the shop.
I don't NEED to be off-grid. But I very much don't want to be denied the possibility of being off grid.0 -
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You are pretty much tracked everywhere you go in a car anyway at least on major roads due to the proliferation of anpr camerasCookie said:
On the subject we were talking about mind, I'm quite torn. I'm a libertarian, but also a transport planner. And road pricing is a very attractive way of solving a lot of the strategic problems we face as a profession.Cookie said:
Having the option not to is enough.kinabalu said:
You don't carry a phone or use a debit card for fear of being tracked?Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.
I might take my phone with me when I pop to the shop for a pint of milk. And use a debit card for the purchase, I am very happy I have nothing to hide there. But it's reassuring to know that I'm not compelled to do so: I could, if I wanted, leave it at home; and pay with cash at the shop.
I don't NEED to be off-grid. But I very much don't want to be denied the possibility of being off grid.0 -
So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?0 -
I have a good friend in Prague. He says that the populace is behaving completely irresponsibly: ignoring lockdown, visiting elderly relatives, going on holiday, not wearing masks, and many suspicious of the idea of vaccination. He was pretty scathing and thinks that they -- and he is Czech himself -- deserve what's happening. A sad tale indeed.Malmesbury said:
And their testing rate is lower than ours....Andy_JS said:Czech Republic has registered 16,642 new cases today, the equivalent of about 106,000 in the UK.
The highest figure the UK has recorded so far was 68,053 on 8th January.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-tests-per-thousand-people-smoothed-7-day?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=earliest..latest&country=GBR~CZE®ion=World
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That's a side gig due to circumstance.Nigelb said:
I thought you were a knapper ?Leon said:Author! Author!
Leon said:
Yeah, but I quite like fancy ways of saying things.kle4 said:
Isn't that just a fancy way of saying that with parties that get 35-40% in the polls, the idea for either Labour or the Tories that their voters and members are all ideologues of the same type is completely bonkers, even if certain strands of thinking predominate?Leon said:
Some of the most enthusiastic buy-to-lettors I know are leftwing. Wasn't Tyson, firebrand lefty ex of this parish, thus remunerated?Theuniondivvie said:
Serendipitously this popped up on my Twitter timeline today.Mango said:
They want power for power's sake.ClippP said:
And grabbing power is not an end in itself. What do they want power for?
In the short term: to keep the gravy coming.
In the longer term: to protect the rentier class.
Everything else is secondary, although they'd fight pretty hard to keep the monarchy (as the shining bastion of the rentier class).
https://twitter.com/cjfdillow/status/1364856451781582850?s=21
Greed is not a rightwing *thing*. It is a human thing. You'd be amazed how many lefties lose ALL their principles the moment a large amount of money hoves into view.
English Toryism is composed of many strands, from Scruton-esque thoughtful patriotism to libertarian Borisovian hedonism, with a large dash of boring nanny state be-careful TMayism. Dismissing them all as rentiers is pitiful. It's like looking at a garden and saying "it's just a load of things growing".
It would, moreover, be like looking at the history of Labour/leftwingery in the UK and saying "it's just envious workers". I know that the leftwing tradition in Britain is much richer and nobler than that, from the Putney Debates to the Levellers to Kier Hardie and on - the political voice of the common people in Britain has done wonderful things, but has also been warped and hijacked to do bad things.
Much like their patriotic rightwing twin.
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He ushered in a very high tax, big state, low growth future.DavidL said:So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?
Not sure how interesting that is.0 -
I listened to Nicola and I found her credible intelligent and impressive. I've got a lot of time for the Sottish posters on this site from all sides. That's what's confusing. The English drama queens like Leon and Big G and the Guidoistas can be ignored. They don't have a vote and any interest they might show is in hoping the Nats fail.
It's obvious to even his most fervent supporters that Salmond is finished. Whatever happens to Nicola that's a given. My question to the Nats is how can crucifying Nicola do anything to advance the Nationalist cause? Is Sturgeon's defenestration really worth collapsing the movement?
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Worrying about being tracked is getting more and more futile.Pagan2 said:
You are pretty much tracked everywhere you go in a car anyway at least on major roads due to the proliferation of anpr camerasCookie said:
On the subject we were talking about mind, I'm quite torn. I'm a libertarian, but also a transport planner. And road pricing is a very attractive way of solving a lot of the strategic problems we face as a profession.Cookie said:
Having the option not to is enough.kinabalu said:
You don't carry a phone or use a debit card for fear of being tracked?Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.
I might take my phone with me when I pop to the shop for a pint of milk. And use a debit card for the purchase, I am very happy I have nothing to hide there. But it's reassuring to know that I'm not compelled to do so: I could, if I wanted, leave it at home; and pay with cash at the shop.
I don't NEED to be off-grid. But I very much don't want to be denied the possibility of being off grid.
Rather, we ought to be concerned about putting easily understood and managed legal (or coded) constraints on the use of our information. The GDPR is in no way a useful solution.0 -
Good luck finding a car without built in GPS and cellular.Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.0 -
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DavidL said:
So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?
You missed an extraordinary spectacle. If you want to see the best of it, check the third session after lunch. Worth viewing in its entirety if you’re a politics geek. Which you are
If you’re pushed for time fast forward to any bit where Baillie was interrogating. But don’t miss Sturgeon nearly blubbing
No gotcha moment. She will survive. But the committee’s conclusions might be interesting
She lied enough and made enough mistakes to ensure the story isn’t going anywhere
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Doesn't mean in the meantime people shouldn't take responsibility.Nigelb said:
Worrying about being tracked is getting more and more futile.Pagan2 said:
You are pretty much tracked everywhere you go in a car anyway at least on major roads due to the proliferation of anpr camerasCookie said:
On the subject we were talking about mind, I'm quite torn. I'm a libertarian, but also a transport planner. And road pricing is a very attractive way of solving a lot of the strategic problems we face as a profession.Cookie said:
Having the option not to is enough.kinabalu said:
You don't carry a phone or use a debit card for fear of being tracked?Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.
I might take my phone with me when I pop to the shop for a pint of milk. And use a debit card for the purchase, I am very happy I have nothing to hide there. But it's reassuring to know that I'm not compelled to do so: I could, if I wanted, leave it at home; and pay with cash at the shop.
I don't NEED to be off-grid. But I very much don't want to be denied the possibility of being off grid.
Rather, we ought to be concerned about putting easily understood and managed legal (or coded) constraints on the use of our information. The GDPR is in no way a useful solution.
Anyone who says "I am worried about the data big tech/governments collect" and then says I use facebook always carry a mobile always pay electronically etc. Well look in the mirror they collect it because you throw it at them.0 -
Not seen Skyfall? Bond's vintage Aston?rcs1000 said:
Good luck finding a car without built in GPS and cellular.Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.0 -
I was gutted to miss it but sometimes work gets in the way and today was one of those days. Bah.Leon said:DavidL said:So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?
You missed an extraordinary spectacle. If you want to see the best of it, check the third session after lunch. Worth viewing in its entirety if you’re a politics geek. Which you are
If you’re pushed for time fast forward to any bit where Baillie was interrogating. But don’t miss Sturgeon nearly blubbing
No gotcha moment. She will survive. But the committee’s conclusions might be interesting
She lied enough and made enough mistakes to ensure the story isn’t going anywhere0 -
I always thought Scotch referred only to the alcoholic spirit, not to the Scottish people?Theuniondivvie said:
Your membership of the Fraternity of PB Scotch Experts is hereby withdrawn.Leon said:Is this a Nat beating up Sturgeon?
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I havent owned a car since 2007 nor drivenrcs1000 said:
Good luck finding a car without built in GPS and cellular.Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.0 -
Was she perhaps Gone with the Wind?Burgessian said:Margaret Mitchell going on far too long. Hopeless. Speech not a question.
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Roger said:
I listened to Nicola and I found her credible intelligent and impressive. I've got a lot of time for the Sottish posters on this site from all sides. That's what's confusing. The English drama queens like Leon and Big G and the Guidoistas can be ignored. They don't have a vote and any interest they might show is in hoping the Nats fail.
It's obvious to even his most fervent supporters that Salmond is finished. Whatever happens to Nicola that's a given. My question to the Nats is how can crucifying Nicola do anything to advance the Nationalist cause? Is Sturgeon's defenestration really worth collapsing the movement?
You probably think this is all happening in Cardiff
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While that is all theoretically possible with a hand crafted device snuck into someone's house, it's not reality.Casino_Royale said:
I want to see an open-book top-to-toe regulatory review of all of this. All of it.Flatlander said:
In theory smart meters could be used to work out what people use their electricity for. Most devices have a recognisable signature.Casino_Royale said:
You get billed for KWH in your home. The Government doesn't snoop to see what you're using it on, or when, except at a very macro level - and it's wholly commercial.Malmesbury said:
The problem is that all polling on the matter has shown that road pricing is a Fuel Strike moment. No one trusts the government on this.Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
This is one of the reasons that hydrogen was the promoted clean fuel solution - when the time was right, you would shift the fuel taxes to hydrogen.
Problem is that electricity is everywhere.
The resistance to rebalancing the anti-road structural plans in the light of ZEVs being universal is strong. But it is needed - and it is quite interesting to see some public transport plans in that light....
The thing is Governments have different policy agendas, supreme power, aren't in competition with anyone, so you can't choose, are able to join lots of dots and are this perfectly corruptable: they could also use this to do you for speeding, as much as pricing per mile, and you could be blackmailed. Or petty personal vendettas could be pursued with it.
I will be making my thoughts known on it to my MP.
They could even work out which TV channel you are watching.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.00326
Private. Public. How it works. Checks and balances. Accessibility. Destruction date. Everything.
Far too many of us don't know or understand it, and that includes policymakers as well as consumers.
A typical house would have a gas meter, electric meter, home display and a communications hub. Often the hub combines with the electricity meter because it has power. Typically they will periodically take power usage readings say every 5 minutes. This gets saved up and sent out when requested typically via a mobile phone network link from the comms hub.
To ensure security they use the same security model/technology as for banking, basically a pki based architecture. To ensure that meters can transfer when the supplier changes, there is an industry entity called the data collection company that controls all of the meters on behalf of the utility companies.
So all a utility company will get is a series of meter readings which they use to work out the bill, possible using the usage profile with time of use tariffs.
No-one can work out what TV channel you are watching from that, though they might work out when you used a kettle or when you were in. Anything else is paranoia.
All of this is public information.
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But have you worked out if she's a man or a woman yet?Roger said:I listened to Nicola and I found her credible intelligent and impressive. I've got a lot of time for the Sottish posters on this site from all sides. That's what's confusing. The English drama queens like Leon and Big G and the Guidoistas can be ignored. They don't have a vote and any interest they might show is in hoping the Nats fail.
It's obvious to even his most fervent supporters that Salmond is finished. Whatever happens to Nicola that's a given. My question to the Nats is how can crucifying Nicola do anything to advance the Nationalist cause? Is Sturgeon's defenestration really worth collapsing the movement?4 -
I have far more connections to Scotland and it's politics including a large family in the North East than your superficial nonsense.Roger said:I listened to Nicola and I found her credible intelligent and impressive. I've got a lot of time for the Sottish posters on this site from all sides. That's what's confusing. The English drama queens like Leon and Big G and the Guidoistas can be ignored. They don't have a vote and any interest is in hoping the Nats fail.
It's obvious to even his most fervent supporters that Salmond is finished. Whatever happens to Nicola that's a given. My question to the Nats is how can crucifying Nicola do anything to advance the Nationalist cause? Is Sturgeon's defenestration really worth collapsing the cause?
I am not English as Big_G_NorthWales indicates
I cannot stand Salmond, nor Sturgeon and have opposed independence since I lived in Bewick on Tweed in the 1950's
You have little or no knowledge of Scotland and neither our families deep love of the Country and Scots
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It's very difficult for movements concentrated on a mad goal, like removing the Tsars and installing a dictatorship of the proletariat, or securing votes for women, or Home Rule for Ireland, or ending Apartheid, to hold themselves together for as long as those movements had to. They usually fail because they split, or get fat and comfortable with government jobs that the change they wanted would threaten their nice comfortable positions. It's kind of expected that the SNP would somehow not achieve their goal and getting fat and splitting is the sort of outcome one might expect.Roger said:I listened to Nicola and I found her credible intelligent and impressive. I've got a lot of time for the Sottish posters on this site from all sides. That's what's confusing. The English drama queens like Leon and Big G and the Guidoistas can be ignored. They don't have a vote and any interest they might show is in hoping the Nats fail.
It's obvious to even his most fervent supporters that Salmond is finished. Whatever happens to Nicola that's a given. My question to the Nats is how can crucifying Nicola do anything to advance the Nationalist cause? Is Sturgeon's defenestration really worth collapsing the movement?
I do think devolution was a mistake, partly because of the structure of the parliament - it was botched - and partly because it's a threat to the Union but was sold as saving the Union from the same threat that at the time barely existed.
All us scotsmen will have nice new grievances soon though!1 -
That would be an amazing car to owncontrarian said:
Not seen Skyfall? Bond's vintage Aston?rcs1000 said:
Good luck finding a car without built in GPS and cellular.Pagan2 said:
Many seem to make the assumption that because they do all these things like carry a mobile, use gps, use facebook, twitter, always pay electronically, use loyalty cards etc that everyone does it. However a lot of us choose to opt to not doing these things because we are aware of the tracking and do our best to minimize itCasino_Royale said:
I don't have any of those cars but, yes, I do, and I have similar concerns about the use of my data by private companies too. I'd like to see that regulated by primary legislation.rcs1000 said:
You do know that when you buy a new car, and you turn it on, and there's that big screen about Terms & Conditions for using the in car systems (without which your car will basically not work), that you are agreeing they have the right to sell your location data to whoever they want, right?Casino_Royale said:
If my clock is read once a year at MOT time, to reconcile my road tax bill for the next year, fine.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think this is another area where he has to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. There is no longer a need to encourage drivers to take up electric cars - they are going to be forced to do so within 9 years anyway. So he should now look to move to payment per mile for driving with all cars being classed the same. Replace fuel duty and road tax with a completely new system based on how much you drive. If you are worried about the impact on rural areas then you can tinker with rates but basically it will be one system for all with perhaps some regional variation.Casino_Royale said:Budget: the CPI inflation assumption (that it stays at or below 2.0% until 2026) looks rocky to me. A 1% increase in RPI increases debt costs by £7bn, and 1% in gilts by £9 billion. Rather sensitive. This could budget could be out by £50-60bn by FY2025/26.
The corp tax and income tax freezes yield £25bn a year by 2025, so that's big money. IHT also frozen for an extra 0.4bn yield. If it gets desperate he could up VAT to 22%, I guess to give an extra £10-12bn per year.
Also, has he factored in a progressive degradation of fuel duty? I think he's just TBC'ed it in this. I'd have thought it'd be 10-15% below current levels by 2025, 25-35% by 2030 and 60-70% by 2040. That's probably a £3-4bn hole by 2026 alone.
Carbon neutrality will have a serious fiscal cost, although cheaper than the environmental one of course.
But, I do not want to be satellite tracked and monitored for real-time road pricing.
No way do I want any part of the Government knowing where I'm going, when or why, or for how long. Nor do I expect to have to explain myself to anyone: the prospects for abuse are legion.
The fuzz would have dug all over it during this latest lockdown.
Anyone buying a new Ford, Tesla, GM, etc., today has already agreed to let Google and Amazon look at your location history so as to work out what things to sell you.
I don't see why I should "accept" the government - who have the power to arrest, detain or fine me - having access to all of my data in real-time just because it's increasingly a feature in the private commercial space.
I want both regulatory spheres dealt with.
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That was completely predictable. What else can you do when you start off with a £300bn deficit?contrarian said:
He ushered in a very high tax, big state, low growth future.DavidL said:So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?
Not sure how interesting that is.0 -
Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.0 -
And how would you pay for covidcontrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.0 -
Good reason for a high tax burden.contrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.0 -
Got to pay for a never ending lock down somehow......contrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.0 -
There needs to be a global rebellion against technology companies "accidentally on purpose" harvesting data from things like cars, phones, laptops, etc. Of course governments should have done something about it first, but they're always about 20 years behind the latest technological developments.1
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That's not their highest. Their highest was 17,766 on 7 January after which it fell back a bit and is now rising again. They were well north of 15,000 a couple of days in late October as well. They are having a camel shaped outbreak having largely dodged the first wave.Andy_JS said:Czech Republic has registered 16,642 new cases today, the equivalent of about 106,000 in the UK.
The highest figure the UK has recorded so far was 68,053 on 8th January.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
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Check this bit. An outright provable lieDavidL said:
I was gutted to miss it but sometimes work gets in the way and today was one of those days. Bah.Leon said:DavidL said:So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?
You missed an extraordinary spectacle. If you want to see the best of it, check the third session after lunch. Worth viewing in its entirety if you’re a politics geek. Which you are
If you’re pushed for time fast forward to any bit where Baillie was interrogating. But don’t miss Sturgeon nearly blubbing
No gotcha moment. She will survive. But the committee’s conclusions might be interesting
She lied enough and made enough mistakes to ensure the story isn’t going anywhere
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Governments and law enforcement like that data though as they can get access to it. It is now common practise in the us for example for investigations to ask for a list of all mobile phones that were within an areaAndy_JS said:There needs to be a global rebellion against technology companies "accidentally on purpose" harvesting data from things like cars, phones, laptops, etc. Of course governments should have done something about it first, but they're always about 20 years behind the latest technological developments.
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By clicking his heels twice to make the whole thing go away.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And how would you pay for covidcontrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.1 -
I did think it was impossible for Roger to get onto Scottish Politics without being waylayed in Hartlepool en route. Or maybe you are taking your cue from Oddschecker!Leon said:Roger said:I listened to Nicola and I found her credible intelligent and impressive. I've got a lot of time for the Sottish posters on this site from all sides. That's what's confusing. The English drama queens like Leon and Big G and the Guidoistas can be ignored. They don't have a vote and any interest they might show is in hoping the Nats fail.
It's obvious to even his most fervent supporters that Salmond is finished. Whatever happens to Nicola that's a given. My question to the Nats is how can crucifying Nicola do anything to advance the Nationalist cause? Is Sturgeon's defenestration really worth collapsing the movement?
You probably think this is all happening in Cardiff
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-politics/2021-tees-valley-mayoral-election-winner1 -
I diagnose a severe case of lockdown locked in syndrome...Leon said:
The morning session was largely boring. I almost skipped the rest. I am very glad i didn’t.Anabobazina said:
Nothing could be as thrilling as your breathless commentary of it – why bother with the real thing?Leon said:
The third session of the day (the one before this) - is the one to watchkle4 said:I cannot deny that I am looking forward to seeing footage of Sturgeon facing difficulties, but I fear the level of excitement promised by people on here may not be met.
But you need to watch it all. The tv snippets won’t capture it
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Whatever you think of the two Salmond stuck to facts and documents. Sturgeon was ephemeral, evasive, unclear on many of the key points and relied on a sense of emotion, and she spent far too much time on general airy-fairy monologues and conjecture that really should have been cut off earlier.
Salmond presented a case. It might not be the reality, but Sturgeon did not provide anything concrete to truly refute it, and indeed whenever there were any moments of the committee explaining how they had documents corroborating Salmond's account, Sturgeon had no real answer.0 -
I think Labour need to find Jackie Baillie a safe seat and install her as leader
She certainly impressed me today and would be a vast improvement on Starmer2 -
Well let's be honest. Punters are being sold the line that we must "pay back" everything borrowed for furlough and covid support loans. Which is a giant porkie pie. Because all that debt has instead been monetised by QE.Philip_Thompson said:
By clicking his heels twice to make the whole thing go away.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And how would you pay for covidcontrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.
It's all just political stage management to try and mark the Tories out as "fiscally responsible". When in reality they've jumped on the China model MMT harder than anyone.
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Oh dear...Leon said:
Check this bit. An outright provable lieDavidL said:
I was gutted to miss it but sometimes work gets in the way and today was one of those days. Bah.Leon said:DavidL said:So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?
You missed an extraordinary spectacle. If you want to see the best of it, check the third session after lunch. Worth viewing in its entirety if you’re a politics geek. Which you are
If you’re pushed for time fast forward to any bit where Baillie was interrogating. But don’t miss Sturgeon nearly blubbing
No gotcha moment. She will survive. But the committee’s conclusions might be interesting
She lied enough and made enough mistakes to ensure the story isn’t going anywhere
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Also pies, eggs, pancakes and mist.DougSeal said:
I always thought Scotch referred only to the alcoholic spirit, not to the Scottish people?Theuniondivvie said:
Your membership of the Fraternity of PB Scotch Experts is hereby withdrawn.Leon said:Is this a Nat beating up Sturgeon?
Actually it's just another spelling of the adjective Scottish, which happens to annoy Scots. (Which is a plural noun, but also another variant of Scottish)0 -
Good summarysolarflare said:Whatever you think of the two Salmond stuck to facts and documents. Sturgeon was ephemeral, evasive, unclear on many of the key points and relied on a sense of emotion, and she spent far too much time on general airy-fairy monologues and conjecture that really should have been cut off earlier.
Salmond presented a case. It might not be the reality, but Sturgeon did not provide anything concrete to truly refute it, and indeed whenever there were any moments of the committee explaining how they had documents corroborating Salmond's account, Sturgeon had no real answer.0 -
I don't think this will pay for the government's handling of covid. I think it is going to fall short.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And how would you pay for covidcontrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.
I'm not sure there is a way of paying for what has been done and retaining living standards at anywhere near what they were.
Either now, or in the future
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That’s what I mean. She told enough outrageous lies to ensure the scandal will persist. Salmond’ s lawyers will be on this, for suresquareroot2 said:
Oh dear...Leon said:
Check this bit. An outright provable lieDavidL said:
I was gutted to miss it but sometimes work gets in the way and today was one of those days. Bah.Leon said:DavidL said:So what did I miss? Any exciting bits in Nicola's evidence or all too complex to really have a gotcha point?
And did Sunak do anything interesting?
You missed an extraordinary spectacle. If you want to see the best of it, check the third session after lunch. Worth viewing in its entirety if you’re a politics geek. Which you are
If you’re pushed for time fast forward to any bit where Baillie was interrogating. But don’t miss Sturgeon nearly blubbing
No gotcha moment. She will survive. But the committee’s conclusions might be interesting
She lied enough and made enough mistakes to ensure the story isn’t going anywhere
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On the position of Ms Sturgeon, it's worth bearing in mind that there is already a complex civil war going on within the SNP, largely incomprehensible to the outsider, but based on a strange mixture of Salmond vs Sturgeon, battles over what to do when Boris disallows a second referendum, and a side war of quite incredible ferocity on trans rights. So her hegemony over the party isn't quite as solid as it seems.0
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That's not true. This isn't "paying back" everything borrowed nor has anyone claimed it is.moonshine said:
Well let's be honest. Punters are being sold the line that we must "pay back" everything borrowed for furlough and covid support loans. Which is a giant porkie pie. Because all that debt has instead been monetised by QE.Philip_Thompson said:
By clicking his heels twice to make the whole thing go away.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And how would you pay for covidcontrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.
It's all just political stage management to try and mark the Tories out as "fiscally responsible". When in reality they've jumped on the China model MMT harder than anyone.
This is closing the deficit.
People need to learn the difference between debt and deficit.0 -
The famous Flash Gordon line - "And with one bound, he was free"Philip_Thompson said:
By clicking his heels twice to make the whole thing go away.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And how would you pay for covidcontrarian said:Then highest tax burden in since the 1960s and Roy Jenkins apparently.
And for a long time to come. For ever, basically.
Good luck with that Rishi. Seriously mate. Good luck.1
