Categories
Options
Allowing door-to-door distribution of commercial leaflets but banning election ones would be thwarti
Allowing door-to-door distribution of commercial leaflets but banning election ones would be thwarting the democratic process – politicalbetting.com
Google pics
0
This discussion has been closed.
Comments
Let's have a rule that says in the two weeks prior to the elections, each candidate can hand deliver no more than one leaflet. Rules on similar size of leaflets to apply.
No candidates are to door knock.
Who could possibly bitch about democracy falling over then?
Because In Wales, the same thing is happening.
In fact, the candidate challenging Mark Drakeford in Cardiff West had a visit from South Wales Police.
Neil NcEvoy tweeted on Sunday: "Okay... Bit of leafleting done in Cardiff West and I've got the police at my door on a Sunday night."
Of course door knocking is a different matter but in our 'neighbourhood watch area' you cannot even do that
Macron and Merkel have gone for matching approaches, one nation and one EU flag, in the same order over the same shoulder, emphasising EU unity. Lot of deadspace in Merkel's shot though, signifiying her time in office is coming to an end, whilst Macron keeps to the trappings of power in a fancy office shot, to show he is going nowhwere.
Draghi has rather slightly overshot the unity message, with 2 each of the EU flag and national, and got them the wrong way round to boot. But he's new in place, so may have missed the approved approach. The pot plant edging in is a none too subtle reminder to focus on Green issues.
Biden has the flags a bit close to him, making him look a bit hemmed in, under pressure. Combined with the traditional presidential seal halo effect he looks like he has giant bat wings and a crown - sinister indeed.
Suga (yes I had to look him up) has gone for a lone flag, either a sign of confidence or naivete compared to an old trooper like Trudeau. The slashed wall effect of the background makes it look like Godzilla has just attacked, but the flag, and Suga, are standing sttrong.
Ursula and the other one, meanwhile, have gone for a subtle approach, heavy on flags but minimised, and made sure the room itself is largely in EU themed colours. The empty space in the middle is not only to show how serious they are in dealing with pandemic issues, but an invitation to the people of the UK - 'See, there is space for you as well, once we finish dealing with Boris'. Bold, but too obvious.
I don't think we should fuck about with the current democratic process given that we have all been through what has been an unprecedented period of restricted freedoms.
Let's keep this one (political leafleting) inviolate.
I think people should be able to leaflet to some degree, but to be honest while most local politicos I know have said they would prefer a delay, I don't think leafleting itself has been brought up.
I won't bang on about it, but the most energetic campaigners are overestimating how much many people get leaflets. A single one is all many will get. I know some lucky/unlucky person who got 4 from a candidate once, but round my way I tend to get 2 from LD and Tories, and 1 from anyone else.
It does not make me tempted to buy Domino's.
Few look at posters, back when we had them, or looked at content online, either. But the more that can be managed the better, and if there's a load of commercial crap, then fine.
I just dispute the pearl clutching or presumption it means independents will have no chance if there is a certain limit and the like. We've all probably seen some good campaigning swing some contests, these are small elections and it can make a difference. But that doesn't mean it always has as much effect as campaigners think, or that everywhere, even most places, get that level of attention. They don't.
It's 'Sir Mark of Drakeford, Demi-God, Hero of Wales and International Playboy' to you.
https://twitter.com/G7/status/1362787855765032961?s=20
Canvassing will also likely be allowed from April, even with facemasks
For a GE I think probably they don't make that much difference to most people. For local elections I think they do. There I believe people are far less likely to be following party allegiances and more voting for the individual and what they are saying they will do in power. I certainly pay a lot of attention to what I can find out about the candidates and much of the time it is only the leaflets that give you that information.
So yes, personally I think they do make a difference.
https://order-order.com/2021/02/18/exclusive-amanda-milling-accuses-libdems-of-putting-lives-at-risk-by-breaking-pandemic-campaigning-truce/
The only people mourning the lack of leaflets will be the printers.
Back in the real world the post arrives regularly and other deliveries of every sort from packages to supermarket deliveries occur through multiple agencies.
The post includes of course about 50,000,000 vaccine letters.
So again, I disagree. They are just visual prompts to say "they made the effort".
I was talking about yesterday's Drakeford.
It is better not to speak of him at all today.
Police commissioner - the Tory candidate doesn't have Police experience (why would you choice that option) but the Labour candidate does so Labour.
Regional Mayor - the tory candidate has done good so keep him in goal for the next 4 years.
Job done.
The Tory tribes - How backbenchers are piling pressure on Boris Johnson
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLuh4wiCUU
Better to have the leaflets than not, so go for it, but not democratic disaster without.
Canvassers can decide for themselves whether to adhere to your wishes.
You can reach far more people with an effectively targeted leaflet and pledge letter and door canvassing is more likely to produce a response and effective voter data face to face than phone canvassing is too
How apt.
(In fairness we have some pretty youthful activists round my way)
However irritating and/or pointless political leafletting might be, if commercial leafletting is still permitted, why not this ?
The example I gave of someone getting 4 leaflets did indeed convince my acquaintance to vote for the candidate. Which they immediately regretted, as said candidate was very unpleasant to them shortly after!
Why am I not surprised.
I`m waiting for Rachel Riley off the telly to knock on my door and I hate to think she`d be deterred by one of Big G`s neighbourhood watch stickers. .
The states with the most privileged places on the presidential primary calendar are finding their roles more threatened than ever before.
"The siege of Iowa and New Hampshire has begun.
The two states with privileged places on the presidential primary calendar are finding their roles more threatened than ever before — most recently in the form of a bill introduced in Nevada this week to move that state’s nominating contest to the front of the line in 2024.
On its own, the Nevada encroachment would mean little. For years, Iowa and New Hampshire have successfully defended their one-two position from states eager to jump ahead. But the combination of Iowa’s botched 2020 caucus and increasing diversity in the Democratic Party’s ranks has made the whiteness of Iowa and New Hampshire all the more conspicuous, putting the two states on their heels and throwing the 2024 calendar into turmoil."
Addendum
Up until 2020, WA State chose its delegates to the National Democratic convention on the basis of precinct caucuses; the state's presidential preference primary being just a "beauty contest" for Dems. (Republicans allocated their delegates half based on caucuses, half by primary).
Note that yours truly used to pay the rent on my humble abode by figuring out how many delegates each of the state's 2k plus voting precincts was entitled to elect on caucus day. Thus my equally-humble bank balance took a hit when the state Democratic party eliminated the caucuses.
HOWEVER, personally supported this move, and still do.
Why? Because caucuses are demonstrably way LESS democratic (with a small d) than primaries. The notion that they are akin to old-school town meetings in New England or the like is a bad joke to anyone who's observed caucuses close up and personal. Because as soon as you get anything approaching mass participation (or rather a significant fraction of the mass) you go beyond the fiscal & organizational capacity of state parties to manage the process. As seen in the god-awful mess the state and (especially) the national Democratic party made of the Iowa caucuses in 2020.
We went to 35,000 houses in Totnes in 2019 (out of some 43,000 I think it is). And that is quite an effort in quite a rural seat.
Interestingly, our canvas return calculated on the night before the vote was within 0.1% of the actual result. Damn, we pavement-pounders are good at identifying our vote!