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Perhaps he was showing off his legendary fatherly concern....TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.0 -
A test we can roll out nationally in one day. Good work!bigjohnowls said:On Testing
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Up til last Sunday it was 52,000/day. It is now at 46,000/day (from 9th Dec counting all days).FrancisUrquhart said:Total of 1.3 million vaccinated so far ...going to have to get a shift on! We need to doing that every 4 days from now for months
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Test trace and ISOLATEsolarflare said:
A test we can roll out nationally in one day. Good work!bigjohnowls said:On Testing
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No those 3 would be included, Major had a few O Levels and banking qualifications, Callaghan passed his Senior Oxford Certificate and civil service exams and Churchill passed the Harrow and Sandhurst entrance exams (pre even O Levels)justin124 said:
So no John Major, James Callaghan or Winston Churchill?HYUFD said:
Well I would like the PM of the UK representing the country on the world stage and taking difficult decisions to at least have a few GCSEs and A Levels and ideally a degree as well and I would hope most sensible people would too, otherwise you may as well just pick the PM by lottery from people in the streetGallowgate said:
You are really quite the university and qualifications snob aren't you?HYUFD said:
Fair enough but you can walk down any housing estate in the country and find someone who left school at 16 with no GCSEs and had a baby, you can use them in an election broadcast, you do not need to make them your candidate to be PM!RochdalePioneers said:Angela Rayner is a success story the Labour Party should make more of. Left school at 16 with no GCSEs and a baby, became a carer then into the Labour Party via the union route. She talks northern, understands what its like to have nothing but responsibilities and no money. She could cut through to the ex-red wall.
But too many in the party hate her for saying Tony Blair changed her life.0 -
I assume you are averaging the number but it will be incrementalTOPPING said:
So now at 46,000/day.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Boris announced 1.3 million as of todayTOPPING said:
It wants to be a shitload higher than 944,000 as they were at 895,XXX a soon after they started it seems.Malmesbury said:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcareWulfrun_Phil said:CarlottaVance said:Just pipped 60,000:
The missing graph from that series is the one on the number of vaccinations conducted.
Why are the Government being so reticent in updating the figures? Is there a problem? Those on the Worldindata site have figures that date back to 27th December, when most other countries are showing data for 3rd or 4th Jan and updating data daily.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=earliest..2021-01-05®ion=World
They are being updated weekly - the data to Sunday will be out tomorrow
Edit: 944,000 to last Sunday is around 50,000/day including all days.
We really need daily stats.0 -
1 in 50 having it, herd immunity / NHS collapse...0
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Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.3
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I have thought that Vicki is far better than the rest for sometimeMexicanpete said:Watching the presser, Vicky Young is an excellent political correspondent. Much better than LauraK and Peston. Great questions, inadequately answered by Johnson.
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She is a Paraplegic and sleeps downstairs otherwise my testing regime would have been halted weeks agoTOPPING said:
How does Mrs BJO feel about this revolution in testing technique?bigjohnowls said:On Testing
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I have always thought that those born on 29 Feb should celebrate successive birthdays on 1 March. Your 1st birthday is then the day after 28 February, so the first anniversary of your birth, and you proceed from there.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My birthday is the 29th February and I am 20 in 2024Carnyx said:
You might have your birthday on the 29 February ... (as a friend of mine did: fortunately his family allowed him an honorary one on the 28 Feb in intercalary years).malcolmg said:
If only I was 17 , I will be more cheery but the site needs someone to shake them up and be grumpy.Omnium said:
I may not have been referring to you! What presumption!malcolmg said:
YouOmnium said:
They had 50 years to wait for it - the relentless rain has meant that these works have been in plan since the 70s.felix said:
Fake news - blue sky in Glasgow - no way!malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
I think these photos were taken in 2008 when God popped along to give Brown his halo and dispense aircraft carriers all round.
There is nothing better than a bright Scottish morning. Nothing more dismal than a Scottish rainy afternoon. Oddly I feel that these two undoubted facts sum up someone or other..
I was though.
Anyway Mr G, do flash your sunny uplands at us more than exposing your dark glens. (If Malcom turns out to be 17 and female I'll get arrested!)
And my many honorary birthdays have always been on the 28th February but my driving licence was issued for the 1st March0 -
Well the pubs, bars, restaurants, cafes and nightclubs and non essential shops are shut and you cannot see your friends in person so for political anoraks like us he is probably spot on, though for some of us it would be the highlight anywayBig_G_NorthWales said:
What a sad lifeHYUFD said:0 -
I had somehow gotten this far into the Georgia election without knowing that Ossof is only 33. Most impressive.0
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CMO just said the CMOs met yesterday to review data. So perhaps the question is why they did not meet on Sunday in order to know what their view was with time to stop schools reopening and adding a whole day of mixing into the mess?TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.0 -
She can't smell it.TOPPING said:
How does Mrs BJO feel about this revolution in testing technique?bigjohnowls said:On Testing
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If it follows the ONS reporting that is not 1 in 50 newly infected in the last 7 days - it is genuinely 'currently infected' and an infection lasts something over a week on average. If we're still at around 40-50% detection, we are back at around 100k-ish being infected a day and a little over 1% infected in the last 7 days: i.e. just about at March peak and still rising in a lot of the country. Although Christmas is still a complicating factor in last 7 day vs previous 7 day figures.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes currentlyRobD said:
Currently? That seems awfully high.SandyRentool said:ONS: 1 in 50 infected
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Almost enough to forgive them for ‘The Wheel’.WhisperingOracle said:
Very welcome news for the BBC. It might do well to revive some other Reithian or Wilsonian connections with the Open University during the pandemic too.CarlottaVance said:0 -
28/2 makes more sense for celebrations as you are a February child. Last day of February then.JohnLilburne said:
I have always thought that those born on 29 Feb should celebrate successive birthdays on 1 March. Your 1st birthday is then the day after 28 February, so the first anniversary of your birth, and you proceed from there.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My birthday is the 29th February and I am 20 in 2024Carnyx said:
You might have your birthday on the 29 February ... (as a friend of mine did: fortunately his family allowed him an honorary one on the 28 Feb in intercalary years).malcolmg said:
If only I was 17 , I will be more cheery but the site needs someone to shake them up and be grumpy.Omnium said:
I may not have been referring to you! What presumption!malcolmg said:
YouOmnium said:
They had 50 years to wait for it - the relentless rain has meant that these works have been in plan since the 70s.felix said:
Fake news - blue sky in Glasgow - no way!malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
I think these photos were taken in 2008 when God popped along to give Brown his halo and dispense aircraft carriers all round.
There is nothing better than a bright Scottish morning. Nothing more dismal than a Scottish rainy afternoon. Oddly I feel that these two undoubted facts sum up someone or other..
I was though.
Anyway Mr G, do flash your sunny uplands at us more than exposing your dark glens. (If Malcom turns out to be 17 and female I'll get arrested!)
And my many honorary birthdays have always been on the 28th February but my driving licence was issued for the 1st March
Not the same thing but my youngest was due early May and born in June. As a result she will always be a June baby now.
You can guess how happy at the time MrsT was three weeks past her due date.0 -
Yes, this is the big week for vaccination. The NHS and government have to hit at least 1m if they have any hope of getting to Boris' stated target of the top 4 priority groups being done by the middle of Feb.rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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Lots of arguments between my mother and father over that point when I was a lad.JohnLilburne said:
I have always thought that those born on 29 Feb should celebrate successive birthdays on 1 March. Your 1st birthday is then the day after 28 February, so the first anniversary of your birth, and you proceed from there.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My birthday is the 29th February and I am 20 in 2024Carnyx said:
You might have your birthday on the 29 February ... (as a friend of mine did: fortunately his family allowed him an honorary one on the 28 Feb in intercalary years).malcolmg said:
If only I was 17 , I will be more cheery but the site needs someone to shake them up and be grumpy.Omnium said:
I may not have been referring to you! What presumption!malcolmg said:
YouOmnium said:
They had 50 years to wait for it - the relentless rain has meant that these works have been in plan since the 70s.felix said:
Fake news - blue sky in Glasgow - no way!malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
I think these photos were taken in 2008 when God popped along to give Brown his halo and dispense aircraft carriers all round.
There is nothing better than a bright Scottish morning. Nothing more dismal than a Scottish rainy afternoon. Oddly I feel that these two undoubted facts sum up someone or other..
I was though.
Anyway Mr G, do flash your sunny uplands at us more than exposing your dark glens. (If Malcom turns out to be 17 and female I'll get arrested!)
And my many honorary birthdays have always been on the 28th February but my driving licence was issued for the 1st March
Mother maintained I was born on the last day of February and Father the first day after the 28th
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I see you need to move to Booster Chicken Tandoori Extra Hot to give her the benefit of your discovery also. And leave your bedroom door open to be sure.bigjohnowls said:
She is a Paraplegic and sleeps downstairs otherwise my testing regime would have been halted weeks agoTOPPING said:
How does Mrs BJO feel about this revolution in testing technique?bigjohnowls said:On Testing
I have developed my own 100% reliable Covid Test
Result known in 10 secs
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Press reports suggested 3m kids went into school yesterday. If 1 in 50* of them had it that is 60,000 infected kids perhaps in close contact with 5-10 each over the day, to give 300k-600k at risk of catching and passing it on further. Wonderful.TheScreamingEagles said:1 in 30 people in London have Covid-19 and yet the PM and Williamson still thought opening some schools in London was a good idea.
* It wont actually be quite so bad as some would be isolating but symptoms are often low in kids so many wont know they have it.0 -
It's just awful, awful government.rottenborough said:
CMO just said the CMOs met yesterday to review data. So perhaps the question is why they did not meet on Sunday in order to know what their view was with time to stop schools reopening and adding a whole day of mixing into the mess?TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.0 -
My theory is a prosaic one. He has to pay the rent and this is the only way he can do it. It's too late now to retrain as a medic or a teacher or to go into IT.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:2 -
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.5 -
Yes it was - even without PHE lumping the part week from the 8th into the second week of vaccination, it was much lower than that.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I assume you are averaging the number but it will be incrementalTOPPING said:
So now at 46,000/day.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Boris announced 1.3 million as of todayTOPPING said:
It wants to be a shitload higher than 944,000 as they were at 895,XXX a soon after they started it seems.Malmesbury said:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcareWulfrun_Phil said:CarlottaVance said:Just pipped 60,000:
The missing graph from that series is the one on the number of vaccinations conducted.
Why are the Government being so reticent in updating the figures? Is there a problem? Those on the Worldindata site have figures that date back to 27th December, when most other countries are showing data for 3rd or 4th Jan and updating data daily.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=earliest..2021-01-05®ion=World
They are being updated weekly - the data to Sunday will be out tomorrow
Edit: 944,000 to last Sunday is around 50,000/day including all days.
We really need daily stats.
The constraint at the moment is vaccine supply.0 -
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:6 -
Being a lunatic on twitter probably earns more than being a teacher.kinabalu said:
My theory is a prosaic one. He has to pay the rent and this is the only way he can do it. It's too late now to retrain as a medic or a teacher or to go into IT.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:3 -
This is where @contrarian has it spot on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Once Covid becomes a risk like several other illnesses including flu (I know we're not supposed to mention Covid and flu in the same sentence) then why would extra or continued measures be needed?0 -
Is the data the PM quoted for the full week? It's not usually announced until later in the week. In any case, it's highly unlikely it will stay in the tens of thousands.TOPPING said:
But the daily average administration of the Pfizer has declined over the past week.rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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Just heard Whitty say something about followed through was he talking about my testing regime?0
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That explains a lot.FF43 said:
He's desperately insecure and wants a following. So he's chasing the altiest of the alt right to find one.1 -
Trying to read much into numbers at the start of the system will yield little data - you have limited vaccine deliveries interacting with the effects of the holiday period.TOPPING said:
But the daily average administration of the Pfizer has declined over the past week.rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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No indeed. And now they are publishing it that is a great step forward.RobD said:
Is the data the PM quoted for the full week? It's not usually announced until later in the week. In any case, it's highly unlikely it will stay in the tens of thousands.TOPPING said:
But the daily average administration of the Pfizer has declined over the past week.rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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I think I'm ok to give them a pass for the one between the 24th and yesterday as "Christmas, everything is more difficult", but from today that isn't acceptable and we also have the AZ vaccine approved so the numbers should be more than double given the supply increase. If we don't have something like 2.5-2.7m done this time next week I'd consider it a failure.TOPPING said:
But the daily average administration of the Pfizer has declined over the past week.rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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People are fed up with Covid-19.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:
The reality is so crap they are starting to believe and live their preferred alternative one, which is much easier to do if you haven't been directly affected by it.1 -
Johnson's major concern appears to be bigging-up the vaccine. Hats off to him for the vaccine.
In April Johnson's key concern was bigging-up the Nightingales. Hats off to him for the Nightingales.
No real interest from Johnson on pretty well anything else, from the questions answers. Just waffling on aimlessly.0 -
Wasn't the first given to a 93-year old yesterday?rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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I think it'll be things other than full fat lockdowns.TOPPING said:
This is where @contrarian has it spot on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Once Covid becomes a risk like several other illnesses including flu (I know we're not supposed to mention Covid and flu in the same sentence) then why would extra or continued measures be needed?
Such as stay at home if you have symptoms, wear a mask, wash your hands, etc.0 -
The grey roughcasting was mainly if not all 50's social housing. Many have been redone in cream , etc but it was so well done it si still in good shape after nearly 70 years, so depends on councils to update it.Flatlander said:
I always thought traditional harling was sand & lime rather than pebble based. That's certainly what you find on older buildings. It is the concrete/pebble mixture that looks particularly bad and seems rather unnecessary on modern buildings.Carnyx said:
Harling is what we call it. Helps to waterproof against the driven rain and to some extent also a sacrificial covering against frost. Or so I see it. For some reason painting is not common unless it is country cottages.Flatlander said:
Aside from Cumbernauld, what I never quite understand driving through the central belt is the preponderance of grey pebbledash.malcolmg said:
It was indeed and was not so bad in those days, the shopping centre etc did not wear well , there must have been lots of crap architects going about in those days.rottenborough said:
Wasn't Cumbernauld where Gregor's Girl was set/filmed?Sandpit said:
Well you’d lose your last pound. My grannie, may she rest in peace, was from Rutherglen.malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
Why?? At least paint it a slightly more interesting colour!
I know there probably aren't many historic brick manufacturers in Scotland due to the geology but surely it doesn't have to look quite so grim.
Edit: Lots of bricks in Central Belt and Tayside - a lot of the local bricks are from fireclay seams (ie Coal Measures seatearths) and others from fluvioglacial or glacial marine clays (Quaternary).
I wonder also if there is something about the local bricks. it may be that they are not pretty enough, or that tradition was not to leave exposed brickwork anywhere.
But not just bricks. My grandfather's drapery and house above is Dumfriesshire stone on the front, but cheaper local stone at the sides and back which is harled and always has been.
Dumfries stone (assuming you mean the red sandstone and not the grey granite) is definitely worth showing though. You find it in a lot of unexpected places (wasn't it used for the Statue of Liberty?). I had to survey one of the quarries once and it was pretty impressive.0 -
The Zoe app reckons 757,000 symptomatic cases as of today. Adding asymptomatic cases will take it to about 900,000. (I think they said that only about 20% of people are truly asymptomatic but about 30% just have minor symptoms such as a runny nose or headache that can be mistaken for a cold)TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes currentlyRobD said:
Currently? That seems awfully high.SandyRentool said:ONS: 1 in 50 infected
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Careers advisers- you let me down again.noneoftheabove said:
Being a lunatic on twitter probably earns more than being a teacher.kinabalu said:
My theory is a prosaic one. He has to pay the rent and this is the only way he can do it. It's too late now to retrain as a medic or a teacher or to go into IT.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:5 -
If we could achieve 100% vaccinated and 95% efficacy there wouldn't be a problem. The virus would fade away very quickly.MaxPB said:
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:
But we won't, and it won't, and hence we have to think about what the steady state is going to be and how to get there.0 -
All leading medics talk like this.MaxPB said:
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:
They don't see it as their job to take a view on risk appetite. They'll just follow whatever eliminates the medical risk absolutely to its logical conclusion.0 -
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.1 -
By the winter we absolutely should have, and chances are the Pfizer vaccine will be approved for 13-17 year olds as well further reducing the available pool of hosts. If we haven't got through 55m people jabbed twice by the end of September then I'd consider it a failure of governing.Gaussian said:
If we could achieve 100% vaccinated and 95% efficacy there wouldn't be a problem. The virus would fade away very quickly.MaxPB said:
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:
But we won't, and it won't, and hence we have to think about what the steady state is going to be and how to get there.1 -
I'm always fascinated by this phenomenon. The belief that you can bend reality to your will.Casino_Royale said:
People are fed up with Covid-19.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:
The reality is so crap they are starting to believe and live their preferred alternative one, which is much easier to do if you haven't been directly affected by it.
I think I mentioned a play of The Cold Equations we put on at university. It was interesting to hear the *anger* at the ending of the play from some people, during the production and staging.1 -
FFS, any angle the media can use to spread the doom and gloom, as per usual...TheScreamingEagles said:
What Whitty said was eminently sensible. You need to monitor these things and you may need to put some measures in effect. Measures doesn't mean locking everyone in their house, in all likelihood. You could just be asked to self-isolate if you're not feeling well.
As usual the media is desperate for another angle to spread the misery.3 -
Look, I'm sorry, but with this shocking data, wasn't the opening of schools yesterday, knowing how infectious the virus is, knowing that children are efficient catchers and spreaders of it, knowing that many of those children will interact with more vulnerable adults, wasn't this verging on the criminally negligent?6
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If you get two jabs would that be 'getting the full Prescott'MaxPB said:
By the winter we absolutely should have, and chances are the Pfizer vaccine will be approved for 13-17 year olds as well further reducing the available pool of hosts. If we haven't got through 55m people jabbed twice by the end of September then I'd consider it a failure of governing.Gaussian said:
If we could achieve 100% vaccinated and 95% efficacy there wouldn't be a problem. The virus would fade away very quickly.MaxPB said:
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:
But we won't, and it won't, and hence we have to think about what the steady state is going to be and how to get there.
I'll get my coat.5 -
Yes it's early days and was Christmas. Party's over now though.MaxPB said:
I think I'm ok to give them a pass for the one between the 24th and yesterday as "Christmas, everything is more difficult", but from today that isn't acceptable and we also have the AZ vaccine approved so the numbers should be more than double given the supply increase. If we don't have something like 2.5-2.7m done this time next week I'd consider it a failure.TOPPING said:
But the daily average administration of the Pfizer has declined over the past week.rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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Unclever of England to have unlocked-down on 2 Dec, on that data.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes currentlyRobD said:
Currently? That seems awfully high.SandyRentool said:ONS: 1 in 50 infected
https://twitter.com/Annie__McGuire/status/1346503992000602113
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One interesting item that I would like to be asked is this - has anyone done or is planning a test of the antibody tests combined with vaccination.Casino_Royale said:
All leading medics talk like this.MaxPB said:
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:
They don't see it as their job to take a view on risk appetite. They'll just follow whatever eliminates the medical risk absolutely to its logical conclusion.
In other words, can we use the antibody tests to see if the vaccine has worked on a particular person?0 -
We love The Wheel in our house. Apart from my wife, who has more highbrow taste.ThomasNashe said:
Almost enough to forgive them for ‘The Wheel’.WhisperingOracle said:
Very welcome news for the BBC. It might do well to revive some other Reithian or Wilsonian connections with the Open University during the pandemic too.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Absolutely. Time to get serious, hit 2m per week by the middle of January and 3m per week by the middle of February and ramp up to 5m per week by the middle of April so that second jabs don't slow down or halt the process for those who haven't had the first jab.TOPPING said:
Yes it's early days and was Christmas. Party's over now though.MaxPB said:
I think I'm ok to give them a pass for the one between the 24th and yesterday as "Christmas, everything is more difficult", but from today that isn't acceptable and we also have the AZ vaccine approved so the numbers should be more than double given the supply increase. If we don't have something like 2.5-2.7m done this time next week I'd consider it a failure.TOPPING said:
But the daily average administration of the Pfizer has declined over the past week.rcs1000 said:Do remember that exactly zero AZN vaccines have been administered so far. That is changing as we speak.
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At 11billion for a weekly pop, one day it will surely have to be.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it'll be things other than full fat lockdowns.TOPPING said:
This is where @contrarian has it spot on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Once Covid becomes a risk like several other illnesses including flu (I know we're not supposed to mention Covid and flu in the same sentence) then why would extra or continued measures be needed?
Such as stay at home if you have symptoms, wear a mask, wash your hands, etc.0 -
Are you suggesting Drakeford is criminally negligentkinabalu said:Look, I'm sorry, but with this shocking data, isn't the opening of schools yesterday, knowing how infectious the virus is, knowing that children are efficient catchers and spreaders of it, knowing that many of those children will interact with more vulnerable adults verging on the criminally negligent?
He opened senior schools yesterday and upto last night all primary schools1 -
Boris got a Tory majority of 80 to beat Corbyn and has delivered Brexit, that was exactly what Tory members elected him to doNigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.0 -
Perhaps but it is right to be wary of government powers introduced with the best of intentions.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it'll be things other than full fat lockdowns.TOPPING said:
This is where @contrarian has it spot on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Once Covid becomes a risk like several other illnesses including flu (I know we're not supposed to mention Covid and flu in the same sentence) then why would extra or continued measures be needed?
Such as stay at home if you have symptoms, wear a mask, wash your hands, etc.
Ask Walter Wolfgang.0 -
Boris Johnson appears to be a useless buffoon, unfit to shovel shit, but the men and women in grey suits have still to find the courage to send 50 or so letters to start the ball rolling to oust him. Do they have the balls to act or not?Nigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.2 -
The AZ vaccine has only been demonstrated to be 70% effective, a significant minority are unwilling to get vaccinated, and younger children could still turn out to be a significant transmission vector (especially with further mutations). All of which means herd immunity isn't a foregone conclusion given the enormous unrestricted R.MaxPB said:
By the winter we absolutely should have, and chances are the Pfizer vaccine will be approved for 13-17 year olds as well further reducing the available pool of hosts. If we haven't got through 55m people jabbed twice by the end of September then I'd consider it a failure of governing.Gaussian said:
If we could achieve 100% vaccinated and 95% efficacy there wouldn't be a problem. The virus would fade away very quickly.MaxPB said:
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:
But we won't, and it won't, and hence we have to think about what the steady state is going to be and how to get there.0 -
A work colleague of mine would give her son who had tested positive (he's about 21) a drink of vinegar.bigjohnowls said:On Testing
I have developed my own 100% reliable Covid Test
Result known in 10 secs
Fart under the covers
Place head under covers
Waft covers
If you cant smell it you have Covid if you can all is well even if it makes you cough
If he didn't pull a face, he still had it.0 -
Is the R really that high?Gaussian said:
The AZ vaccine has only been demonstrated to be 70% effective, a significant minority are unwilling to get vaccinated, and younger children could still turn out to be a significant transmission vector (especially with further mutations). All of which means herd immunity isn't a foregone conclusion given the enormous unrestricted R.MaxPB said:
By the winter we absolutely should have, and chances are the Pfizer vaccine will be approved for 13-17 year olds as well further reducing the available pool of hosts. If we haven't got through 55m people jabbed twice by the end of September then I'd consider it a failure of governing.Gaussian said:
If we could achieve 100% vaccinated and 95% efficacy there wouldn't be a problem. The virus would fade away very quickly.MaxPB said:
Nah, that isn't going to fly if everyone has been jabbed twice and we have 95% immunity. No way will people live with restrictions after the vaccine, it's why politicians need to make decisions not medical people, in normal times. Otherwise we'd have banned smoking, drinking and bacon a long time ago.TheScreamingEagles said:
But we won't, and it won't, and hence we have to think about what the steady state is going to be and how to get there.0 -
Yes, glad that Parliament force the government into needing to renew the powers every six months rather than the three years that was initially on the cards. There's no way Tory MPs will go along with autumn/winter lockdowns if the numbers are in single digits for deaths and double digits for cases.TOPPING said:
Perhaps but it is right to be wary of government powers introduced with the best of intentions.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it'll be things other than full fat lockdowns.TOPPING said:
This is where @contrarian has it spot on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Once Covid becomes a risk like several other illnesses including flu (I know we're not supposed to mention Covid and flu in the same sentence) then why would extra or continued measures be needed?
Such as stay at home if you have symptoms, wear a mask, wash your hands, etc.
Ask Walter Wolfgang.0 -
The vaccination programmes hasn't even started in my part of Sussex. We have an elderly population, so this is rather worrying.0
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Seeing the prospect of the virus abating, these journalists are like children watching their snowman melt.TOPPING said:
Perhaps but it is right to be wary of government powers introduced with the best of intentions.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it'll be things other than full fat lockdowns.TOPPING said:
This is where @contrarian has it spot on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Once Covid becomes a risk like several other illnesses including flu (I know we're not supposed to mention Covid and flu in the same sentence) then why would extra or continued measures be needed?
Such as stay at home if you have symptoms, wear a mask, wash your hands, etc.
Ask Walter Wolfgang.1 -
Cognitive dissonance. Classic human frailty.Malmesbury said:
I'm always fascinated by this phenomenon. The belief that you can bend reality to your will.Casino_Royale said:
People are fed up with Covid-19.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:
The reality is so crap they are starting to believe and live their preferred alternative one, which is much easier to do if you haven't been directly affected by it.
I think I mentioned a play of The Cold Equations we put on at university. It was interesting to hear the *anger* at the ending of the play from some people, during the production and staging.0 -
Farr's sale began today btw.Richard_Nabavi said:The vaccination programmes hasn't even started in my part of Sussex. We have an elderly population, so this is rather worrying.
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Maybe I have devoted too much time to this, but I think you should celebrate on the 28th the year after a leap year and 1st of March the year before a leap year, while either is equally right/wrong in the middle year. My rationale is that the solar year is around 365.25 days. So one year after a leap year your birthday should be on Feb 28.25, which rounds to Feb 28. One year before it should be Feb 28.75, which rounds to Mar 1. In the middle year it is Feb 28.5, and so it's a toss-up.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Lots of arguments between my mother and father over that point when I was a lad.JohnLilburne said:
I have always thought that those born on 29 Feb should celebrate successive birthdays on 1 March. Your 1st birthday is then the day after 28 February, so the first anniversary of your birth, and you proceed from there.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My birthday is the 29th February and I am 20 in 2024Carnyx said:
You might have your birthday on the 29 February ... (as a friend of mine did: fortunately his family allowed him an honorary one on the 28 Feb in intercalary years).malcolmg said:
If only I was 17 , I will be more cheery but the site needs someone to shake them up and be grumpy.Omnium said:
I may not have been referring to you! What presumption!malcolmg said:
YouOmnium said:
They had 50 years to wait for it - the relentless rain has meant that these works have been in plan since the 70s.felix said:
Fake news - blue sky in Glasgow - no way!malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
I think these photos were taken in 2008 when God popped along to give Brown his halo and dispense aircraft carriers all round.
There is nothing better than a bright Scottish morning. Nothing more dismal than a Scottish rainy afternoon. Oddly I feel that these two undoubted facts sum up someone or other..
I was though.
Anyway Mr G, do flash your sunny uplands at us more than exposing your dark glens. (If Malcom turns out to be 17 and female I'll get arrested!)
And my many honorary birthdays have always been on the 28th February but my driving licence was issued for the 1st March
Mother maintained I was born on the last day of February and Father the first day after the 28th
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And to be fair to Whitty he did also go on to expand that additional limited measures for next winter may not even be needed, just something we have to consider.numbertwelve said:
FFS, any angle the media can use to spread the doom and gloom, as per usual...TheScreamingEagles said:
What Whitty said was eminently sensible. You need to monitor these things and you may need to put some measures in effect. Measures doesn't mean locking everyone in their house, in all likelihood. You could just be asked to self-isolate if you're not feeling well.
As usual the media is desperate for another angle to spread the misery.
No-one knows yet with any high degree of certainty how quickly the vaccine will be rolled out, how effective it will be and how the virus will behave in general once the main vaccination programme is completed. We know flu still kills thousands per year and we have to have a new vaccine every year for it. It's prudent to at least consider that limited things may still be needed.
What he did say about basically a societal decision on the level of risk was, weirdly, the most uplifting thing I have heard for a while. Yes, we will have to accept that for soceiety to go back to normal there will probably still be some covid deaths. The end game here is not going to be zero covid deaths, that's not realistic, and structuring society around that as a goal is not going to fly.
If we get it down to a manageable level like the flu then that will merely have to suffice for normality.2 -
No as he leads the polls still which for most Tory MPs is all they care about ie keeping their seatsdr_spyn said:
Boris Johnson appears to be a useless buffoon, unfit to shovel shit, but the men and women in grey suits have still to find the courage to send 50 or so letters to start the ball rolling to oust him. Do they have the balls to act or not?Nigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
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In hindsight I think the Tories got their PMs the wrong way round.HYUFD said:
Boris got a Tory majority of 80 to beat Corbyn and has delivered Brexit, that was exactly what Tory members elected him to doNigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
Should have gone with Boris in 2016 to get the Brexit mess done. May, ironically, might have been a better leader for a serious crisis like Covid.0 -
Yes, the abuse was interesting. Apparently we (the producers of the play) were EVUL. Because of the ending.Casino_Royale said:
Cognitive dissonance. Classic human frailty.Malmesbury said:
I'm always fascinated by this phenomenon. The belief that you can bend reality to your will.Casino_Royale said:
People are fed up with Covid-19.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:
The reality is so crap they are starting to believe and live their preferred alternative one, which is much easier to do if you haven't been directly affected by it.
I think I mentioned a play of The Cold Equations we put on at university. It was interesting to hear the *anger* at the ending of the play from some people, during the production and staging.0 -
Boris is not the right personality for covid and others including Jeremy Hunt or Rishi would be a huge improvementdr_spyn said:
Boris Johnson appears to be a useless buffoon, unfit to shovel shit, but the men and women in grey suits have still to find the courage to send 50 or so letters to start the ball rolling to oust him. Do they have the balls to act or not?Nigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
However, he has just got Brexit done, his poll ratings are reasonable , Starmer is not taking the political scene by storm when he should, and it reality his MPs are backing him by a large majority
I do not believe Boris is going anywhere and if he does succeed with the vaccine then who cares2 -
They didn't have a chance to go with Boris in 2016, he chickened out.numbertwelve said:
In hindsight I think the Tories got their PMs the wrong way round.HYUFD said:
Boris got a Tory majority of 80 to beat Corbyn and has delivered Brexit, that was exactly what Tory members elected him to doNigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
Should have gone with Boris in 2016 to get the Brexit mess done. May, ironically, might have been a better leader for a serious crisis like Covid.1 -
At some juncture, I guess, vaccinations will also be available from private health sector, walk-in clinics etc?0
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Were they engineers ?Malmesbury said:
I'm always fascinated by this phenomenon. The belief that you can bend reality to your will.Casino_Royale said:
People are fed up with Covid-19.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:
The reality is so crap they are starting to believe and live their preferred alternative one, which is much easier to do if you haven't been directly affected by it.
I think I mentioned a play of The Cold Equations we put on at university. It was interesting to hear the *anger* at the ending of the play from some people, during the production and staging.
(Wikipedia) ...Critic and engineer Gary Westfahl has said that because the proposition depends upon systems that were built without enough margin for error, the story is good physics, but lousy engineering, and that it frustrated him so much he decided it was "not worth (his) time. Very poor Engineering."[1] Writer Cory Doctorow has made a similar argument, noting that the constraints under which the characters operate are decided by the writers, and not therefore the "inescapable laws of physics". He argues that the decision of the writer to give the vessel no margin of safety and a marginal fuel supply focuses reader attention on the "need" for tough decisions in time of crisis and away from the responsibility for proper planning to ensure safety in the first place. Doctorow sees this as an example of moral hazard...0 -
dr_spyn said:
Boris Johnson appears to be a useless buffoon, unfit to shovel shit, but the men and women in grey suits have still to find the courage to send 50 or so letters to start the ball rolling to oust him. Do they have the balls to act or not?Nigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
He's useless, but they're still more or less even in the polls with 3.5 years till a GE.
He's got the job for the next 2 years, I suspect, if he wants it. After that things might get trickier for him but it will depend on the lie of the land.0 -
My order went in at 10.32 this morning. Have to do something* with those winnings on the US election...TOPPING said:
Farr's sale began today btw.Richard_Nabavi said:The vaccination programmes hasn't even started in my part of Sussex. We have an elderly population, so this is rather worrying.
* Although quite a chunk also went to charities0 -
The issue has been with take-up in some areas. Some GPs decided not to participate with the Pfzier vaccine - too tricky - for example. So the supplies went to those who *could* get it done - there is more capacity to jab than there is vaccine.Richard_Nabavi said:The vaccination programmes hasn't even started in my part of Sussex. We have an elderly population, so this is rather worrying.
Hence the Sunday Times complaint about postcode lotteries.1 -
She might have been but would have needed Boris to get the Tory majority to beat Corbyn and deliver Brexit first, yesnumbertwelve said:
In hindsight I think the Tories got their PMs the wrong way round.HYUFD said:
Boris got a Tory majority of 80 to beat Corbyn and has delivered Brexit, that was exactly what Tory members elected him to doNigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
Should have gone with Boris in 2016 to get the Brexit mess done. May, ironically, might have been a better leader for a serious crisis like Covid.0 -
Thank you but after not far off 80 years doing it the way I have the 28th remains my non leap year day, and it was my Mother's wishOnlyLivingBoy said:
Maybe I have devoted too much time to this, but I think you should celebrate on the 28th the year after a leap year and 1st of March the year before a leap year, while either is equally right/wrong in the middle year. My rationale is that the solar year is around 365.25 days. So one year after a leap year your birthday should be on Feb 28.25, which rounds to Feb 28. One year before it should be Feb 28.75, which rounds to Mar 1. In the middle year it is Feb 28.5, and so it's a toss-up.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Lots of arguments between my mother and father over that point when I was a lad.JohnLilburne said:
I have always thought that those born on 29 Feb should celebrate successive birthdays on 1 March. Your 1st birthday is then the day after 28 February, so the first anniversary of your birth, and you proceed from there.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My birthday is the 29th February and I am 20 in 2024Carnyx said:
You might have your birthday on the 29 February ... (as a friend of mine did: fortunately his family allowed him an honorary one on the 28 Feb in intercalary years).malcolmg said:
If only I was 17 , I will be more cheery but the site needs someone to shake them up and be grumpy.Omnium said:
I may not have been referring to you! What presumption!malcolmg said:
YouOmnium said:
They had 50 years to wait for it - the relentless rain has meant that these works have been in plan since the 70s.felix said:
Fake news - blue sky in Glasgow - no way!malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
I think these photos were taken in 2008 when God popped along to give Brown his halo and dispense aircraft carriers all round.
There is nothing better than a bright Scottish morning. Nothing more dismal than a Scottish rainy afternoon. Oddly I feel that these two undoubted facts sum up someone or other..
I was though.
Anyway Mr G, do flash your sunny uplands at us more than exposing your dark glens. (If Malcom turns out to be 17 and female I'll get arrested!)
And my many honorary birthdays have always been on the 28th February but my driving licence was issued for the 1st March
Mother maintained I was born on the last day of February and Father the first day after the 28th
In truth it confused many of the family and as a lad I did not object to having it over the two days2 -
Odd. It was all her fault anyway. Like poking around on the launch pad when nobody knew she was there. Could just as well have been fried or dissolved.Malmesbury said:
Yes, the abuse was interesting. Apparently we (the producers of the play) were EVUL. Because of the ending.Casino_Royale said:
Cognitive dissonance. Classic human frailty.Malmesbury said:
I'm always fascinated by this phenomenon. The belief that you can bend reality to your will.Casino_Royale said:
People are fed up with Covid-19.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:
The reality is so crap they are starting to believe and live their preferred alternative one, which is much easier to do if you haven't been directly affected by it.
I think I mentioned a play of The Cold Equations we put on at university. It was interesting to hear the *anger* at the ending of the play from some people, during the production and staging.0 -
And considering that under Johnson's government this country has bought, organised, provided and injected more vaccines than the rest of the entire continent put together then I take great pleasure in saying "I told you so" that he is a good Prime Minister. 😎Nigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
Swings and roundabouts. It's far too early to make clichéd soundbites about how bad things supposedly are but I have every confidence that Boris is going to lead us out of this pandemic before Macron does France or even Merkel does Germany.2 -
The last argument clinches it!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you but after not far off 80 years doing it the way I have the 28th remains my non leap year day, and it was my Mother's wishOnlyLivingBoy said:
Maybe I have devoted too much time to this, but I think you should celebrate on the 28th the year after a leap year and 1st of March the year before a leap year, while either is equally right/wrong in the middle year. My rationale is that the solar year is around 365.25 days. So one year after a leap year your birthday should be on Feb 28.25, which rounds to Feb 28. One year before it should be Feb 28.75, which rounds to Mar 1. In the middle year it is Feb 28.5, and so it's a toss-up.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Lots of arguments between my mother and father over that point when I was a lad.JohnLilburne said:
I have always thought that those born on 29 Feb should celebrate successive birthdays on 1 March. Your 1st birthday is then the day after 28 February, so the first anniversary of your birth, and you proceed from there.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My birthday is the 29th February and I am 20 in 2024Carnyx said:
You might have your birthday on the 29 February ... (as a friend of mine did: fortunately his family allowed him an honorary one on the 28 Feb in intercalary years).malcolmg said:
If only I was 17 , I will be more cheery but the site needs someone to shake them up and be grumpy.Omnium said:
I may not have been referring to you! What presumption!malcolmg said:
YouOmnium said:
They had 50 years to wait for it - the relentless rain has meant that these works have been in plan since the 70s.felix said:
Fake news - blue sky in Glasgow - no way!malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
I think these photos were taken in 2008 when God popped along to give Brown his halo and dispense aircraft carriers all round.
There is nothing better than a bright Scottish morning. Nothing more dismal than a Scottish rainy afternoon. Oddly I feel that these two undoubted facts sum up someone or other..
I was though.
Anyway Mr G, do flash your sunny uplands at us more than exposing your dark glens. (If Malcom turns out to be 17 and female I'll get arrested!)
And my many honorary birthdays have always been on the 28th February but my driving licence was issued for the 1st March
Mother maintained I was born on the last day of February and Father the first day after the 28th
In truth it confused many of the family and as a lad I did not object to having it over the two days3 -
Especially if she was making the birthday cake.OnlyLivingBoy said:
The last argument clinches it!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you but after not far off 80 years doing it the way I have the 28th remains my non leap year day, and it was my Mother's wishOnlyLivingBoy said:
Maybe I have devoted too much time to this, but I think you should celebrate on the 28th the year after a leap year and 1st of March the year before a leap year, while either is equally right/wrong in the middle year. My rationale is that the solar year is around 365.25 days. So one year after a leap year your birthday should be on Feb 28.25, which rounds to Feb 28. One year before it should be Feb 28.75, which rounds to Mar 1. In the middle year it is Feb 28.5, and so it's a toss-up.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Lots of arguments between my mother and father over that point when I was a lad.JohnLilburne said:
I have always thought that those born on 29 Feb should celebrate successive birthdays on 1 March. Your 1st birthday is then the day after 28 February, so the first anniversary of your birth, and you proceed from there.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My birthday is the 29th February and I am 20 in 2024Carnyx said:
You might have your birthday on the 29 February ... (as a friend of mine did: fortunately his family allowed him an honorary one on the 28 Feb in intercalary years).malcolmg said:
If only I was 17 , I will be more cheery but the site needs someone to shake them up and be grumpy.Omnium said:
I may not have been referring to you! What presumption!malcolmg said:
YouOmnium said:
They had 50 years to wait for it - the relentless rain has meant that these works have been in plan since the 70s.felix said:
Fake news - blue sky in Glasgow - no way!malcolmg said:
I could bet my last pound you will never have seen or been to the Gorbals, you may be looking at wiki from 1940's, this does not look very shabby does it ................arseSandpit said:
Gorbals, before they flattened it a decade or so ago.Flatlander said:
Is there anywhere in either worse than Cumbernauld? Because I wouldn't want to go there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've just texted him that, his reply 'The worst bits of Edinburgh are better than the best bits of Glasgow.'Carnyx said:
You ought to ask him about Craigmillar and Wester Hailes!TheScreamingEagles said:
My boss is an Posh Jock as he's from Edinburgh, home of classy places like the Caley, the fringe, and the castle.Carnyx said:
I don't know, nobody would claim that Bearsden was lower class than Wester Hailes. And the Byres Road is every bit as twee as Broughton Street or Newington. It's a geographical thing , like the States - East and West Coast separated by the great plains and arid deserts of West Lothian and Linlithgowshire, inhabited by pink sheep and giant water horses.TheScreamingEagles said:Is there any other nation more obsessed with class than the British?
I find it a bit weird, even my Scottish boss said there's plenty of classism in Scotland, although that's more of an Edinburgh/Glasgow rivalry.
Glasgow has places like Gorbals and Govan.
I think these photos were taken in 2008 when God popped along to give Brown his halo and dispense aircraft carriers all round.
There is nothing better than a bright Scottish morning. Nothing more dismal than a Scottish rainy afternoon. Oddly I feel that these two undoubted facts sum up someone or other..
I was though.
Anyway Mr G, do flash your sunny uplands at us more than exposing your dark glens. (If Malcom turns out to be 17 and female I'll get arrested!)
And my many honorary birthdays have always been on the 28th February but my driving licence was issued for the 1st March
Mother maintained I was born on the last day of February and Father the first day after the 28th
In truth it confused many of the family and as a lad I did not object to having it over the two days4 -
There was a young man from Kent
Whose virus sequence got bent
It made him no sicker
But passed on much quicker
So faster and faster it went
Via Dr John Campbell2 -
Europe seems a horror story of ineptitude and real in fightingPhilip_Thompson said:
And considering that under Johnson's government this country has bought, organised, provided and injected more vaccines than the rest of the entire continent put together then I take great pleasure in saying "I told you so" that he is a good Prime Minister. 😎Nigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
Swings and roundabouts. It's far too early to make clichéd soundbites about how bad things supposedly are but I have every confidence that Boris is going to lead us out of this pandemic before Macron does France or even Merkel does Germany.
On covid and vaccination we left at the right time
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It's a reaction a non-trivial minority have to the idea of inescapable facts. The whole "Science Is Evul" thing. Because it doesn't do feelings.Carnyx said:
Odd. It was all her fault anyway. Like poking around on the launch pad when nobody knew she was there. Could just as well have been fried or dissolved.Malmesbury said:
Yes, the abuse was interesting. Apparently we (the producers of the play) were EVUL. Because of the ending.Casino_Royale said:
Cognitive dissonance. Classic human frailty.Malmesbury said:
I'm always fascinated by this phenomenon. The belief that you can bend reality to your will.Casino_Royale said:
People are fed up with Covid-19.rcs1000 said:
What is it that makes people turn absolutely potty? I'm beginning to think there may be some virus that people are contracting that makes them believe the most absurd things.TheScreamingEagles said:
The reality is so crap they are starting to believe and live their preferred alternative one, which is much easier to do if you haven't been directly affected by it.
I think I mentioned a play of The Cold Equations we put on at university. It was interesting to hear the *anger* at the ending of the play from some people, during the production and staging.
Gravity isn't just a good idea. It's The Law.1 -
Yes.kinabalu said:Look, I'm sorry, but with this shocking data, wasn't the opening of schools yesterday, knowing how infectious the virus is, knowing that children are efficient catchers and spreaders of it, knowing that many of those children will interact with more vulnerable adults, wasn't this verging on the criminally negligent?
It's a consequence of the Johnsonian insistence all along (regularly used as a political weapon against Starmer) that 'schools are absolutely safe', when we have known for some considerable time that they are a very significant vector of transmission.
If Johnson had taken an honest line from the start, there'd probably have been a far more sensible discussion of the costs/benefits, better planning for times when schools were closed - and quite possibly less time lost to closure overall.
Teachers are not stupid (in the main), and have demonstrated over the last year that they have been prepared to accept significant risks to keep schools open. Insulting their intelligence over a long period of time has been counterproductive.
Though it has produced, for the credulous, another set of scapegoats.
This is a long thread which sets out the evidence.
https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/13463621594465771541 -
The difficulty is that the things that make him a terrible Prime Minister- especially the ability to tell people what they want to hear with no loss of fluency, whether it's true or not- are the things that make him a formidable campaigner.numbertwelve said:dr_spyn said:
Boris Johnson appears to be a useless buffoon, unfit to shovel shit, but the men and women in grey suits have still to find the courage to send 50 or so letters to start the ball rolling to oust him. Do they have the balls to act or not?Nigel_Foremain said:
I take no pleasure in saying to those members of the party to which I used to belong "I told you so". Boris Johnson has no leadership skills. He is a political and leadership cretin; a joke candidate who should never have even been made a junior minister let alone PM. We are reaping what idiot Tory members sowed, which was in no small part caused by those idiot Labour members that voted for Corbyn.Richard_Nabavi said:
The 'useless twat' hypothesis is pretty much proven now. Boris just can't stop himself putting off a difficult decision in the hope that something will turn up to make the decision unnecessary, and of course inevitably that means we end up with the worst of both worlds. I cut him a lot of slack for what in hindsight were mistakes at the beginning of the pandemic, but by now you'd have hoped he'd have learnt something. It was completely obvious by early December that things were getting out of control; his dithering in the hope he could avoid 'cancelling Christmas' has simply meant that many, many lives will have been lost, and the distribution of the vaccines which is the only way out of the nightmare will be unnecessarily disrupted. And of course Christmas was effectively cancelled anyway, and the panic lockdown at zero notice has simply piled on even greater losses for restaurants and other venues who were hoping to recoup some of their losses with Xmas and New Year bookings.TOPPING said:
There has to be some explanation. God knows what it is but as you say the sequence of events is just so bonkers that there must be more to it than we know right now.TheScreamingEagles said:This makes Boris Johnson's answers in the Marr interview even more bizarre.
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1346506227006763009
That, or Boris is the utterly useless twat we have said he is all along.
He's a world-class ditherer who makes even Gordon Brown look decisive in comparison. We really did draw the short straw having him as PM in this pandemic.
He's useless, but they're still more or less even in the polls with 3.5 years till a GE.
He's got the job for the next 2 years, I suspect, if he wants it. After that things might get trickier for him but it will depend on the lie of the land.
Winning is important, you can't do much from the wrong side of an 80 seat majority. The question is when does the price of winning exceed its value?0 -
Ha! Did you get the Rieussec?? I blinked and it had gone!Richard_Nabavi said:
My order went in at 10.32 this morning. Have to do something* with those winnings on the US election...TOPPING said:
Farr's sale began today btw.Richard_Nabavi said:The vaccination programmes hasn't even started in my part of Sussex. We have an elderly population, so this is rather worrying.
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My post was directed at Johnson but if it applies to others too, well then it does.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Are you suggesting Drakeford is criminally negligentkinabalu said:Look, I'm sorry, but with this shocking data, isn't the opening of schools yesterday, knowing how infectious the virus is, knowing that children are efficient catchers and spreaders of it, knowing that many of those children will interact with more vulnerable adults verging on the criminally negligent?
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Regarding vaccinations I know lots of nurses in various surgeries. They all have got vaccine plans for the next few weeks. It will be hard to get an appointment at your local surgery over the next few weeks as they will be concentrating so much on vaccinations. This week there will be over a million vaccinations, by the end of January there will be at least 5 million per week.0
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I think it will be a bad look to have it available at the Harley Street Clinic when, say, Somalia is still waiting but yes at some point.contrarian said:At some juncture, I guess, vaccinations will also be available from private health sector, walk-in clinics etc?
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