The latest polling on measures to control the virus and what Contrarian Hartley-Brewer is saying – p
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The latest polling on measures to control the virus and what Contrarian Hartley-Brewer is saying – politicalbetting.com
YouGov finds strong support for a third lockdown if that is what it is going to take pic.twitter.com/u0Ewo0YBkB
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First, second, third and fourth like all the virus waves we'll get if we are stupid enough to let it.2
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Total support for a third lockdown strongest in the South at 70% and opposition strongest in the Midlands and Wales where 30% are opposed.
Support strongest with LDs with 79% in favour and Remainers with 77% in favour.
Opposition strongest with Tories with 31% opposed and with Leavers who have 29% opposed to the idea.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2020/11/30/c5ab2/1?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=daily_questions&utm_campaign=question_10 -
It being supported doesn't in itself prove it is a good idea of course, but the skeptics have to be realistic about if they represent the majority or a minority - if the argument on principle or by evidence holds up it works on its own without pretending that the public is clamouring for an end to things they are not, even if some think they should.
Hartley-Brewer seems to be simultaneously arguing there be no restrictions whatsoever, but also no consequences to the economic and social costs already bourne and still to be bourne even if there are no restrictions.0 -
I don't understand the Labour decision to abstain. How can you be neutral on this?1
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She may not have a great grasp of cause and effect.Foxy said:
Cancer treatments are being handicapped by the cancer wards filling up with covid patients, not by lockdown.rottenborough said:
Hence PB - for those who need to shout into the void.LadyG said:I've started talking to myself. And I don't mean the odd muttering. Proper conversations. By me with me.
Lockdown 2 needs to end SOON
The debate's all in good fun, but for me the principal argument is just a semantic one about the themes of the movie, and whether if you swapped it out reference to Christmas with, say, thanksgiving, or some other holiday where very few would be working, would it work just as well? Is it a Christmas movie or just a movie that happens to take place at Christmas? Was Jack Reacher 2 a halloween movie after all?Anabobazina said:It’s not clear to me why there is any debate about Die Hard being a Christmas film. The entire premise of the picture requires the tower block to be deserted - hence Christmas. Although the massive plot hole is why would any company hold its Christmas party on Christmas Eve? Don’t those people have homes to go to?
Being honest it has some elements of common Christmas movie themes of family and redemption (and of course people will disagree on what 'makes' a Christmas movie anyway) that maybe it passes muster, but it's just a silly argument anyway since it's an action movie first and foremost, and whether it 'succeeds' as a Christmas movie is rather secondary as to whether it suceeds at that.0 -
Which is all the more silly when there are multiple authorities, so even if everyone wanted to pick their own to listen to everyone must be right as each has authority. And simply believing none where there are dissenting views hardly works, but it doesn't mean all views are equal either.RobD said:
It's the appeal to authority fallacy.AlwaysSinging said:
Why, indeed? I think that's an excellent question. Being flattered that their opinion is sought? A feeling of power? Self-promotion? Or simply getting a bee in their bonnet and being unable to challenge their own beliefs enough to see that there's nothing in their theory?rottenborough said:
Why would someone with 30 years senior level experience in R&D for respiratory medications keep writing articles that are "ignorant nonsense"?AlwaysSinging said:
It raises nothing interesting. It makes assertions without evidence or selectively quotes sources that are contradicted by both the body of scientific opinion and subsequent fact. It's ignorant nonsense. Don't fall for it.rottenborough said:"I think the evidence is unequivocal that we are in a PCR false positive pseudo-epidemic"
"Viruses don’t do waves (beyond the secondary ripple concept as outlined above). I have repeatedly asked to see the trove of scientific papers used to predict a ‘second wave’ and to build a model to compute its likely size and timing. They have never been forthcoming. It’s almost as if there is no such foundational literature. I’m sure SAGE can put us right on this."
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-pcr-false-positive-pseudo-epidemic/
This article raises some very interesting issues about the scale and quality of PCR testing.
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Whatever the reason, it's still ignorant nonsense. As any actual public health, epidemiology, expert in PCR, or statistician will tell you.
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My favourite Die Hard is Die Hard 3 anyway, so I'm on thin enough ice as it is.Anabobazina said:
Fair analysis but you fail to answer my poser about the party.kle4 said:
The debate's all in good fun, but for me the principal argument is just a semantic one about the themes of the movie, and whether if you swapped it out reference to Christmas with, say, thanksgiving, or some other holiday where very few would be working, would it work just as well? Is it a Christmas movie or just a movie that happens to take place at Christmas? Was Jack Reacher 2 a halloween movie after all?Anabobazina said:It’s not clear to me why there is any debate about Die Hard being a Christmas film. The entire premise of the picture requires the tower block to be deserted - hence Christmas. Although the massive plot hole is why would any company hold its Christmas party on Christmas Eve? Don’t those people have homes to go to?
Being honest it has some elements of common Christmas movie themes of family and redemption (and of course people will disagree on what 'makes' a Christmas movie anyway) that maybe it passes muster, but it's just a silly argument anyway since it's an action movie first and foremost, and whether it 'succeeds' as a Christmas movie is rather secondary as to whether it suceeds at that.
Maybe in a later picture it will be revealed that it was an inside job. Some corrupt HR/events manager engineered to hold the party on Christmas Eve for a share of Gruber’s loot.0 -
Starmer is going to back Boris' tiers and Boris' Brexit Deal or at least abstain as a tactical decision to expose Tory rebels on the backbenches who will vote in greater numbers against if Labour are not opposed, while also ensuring both pass.Andy_JS said:I don't understand the Labour decision to abstain. How can you be neutral on this?
Similar to when IDS decided to vote for the Iraq War with the Blair government leading to over 100 Labour rebels voting against or abstaining (only this time IDS will be a leading rebel)1 -
It exposes and encourages the Tory rebels. It also says to the world that “but for our support through abstention Johnson would have lost”. It is a message that won’t be lost on the Tory rank and file. Doubly so if the same thing happens on any potential Deal.Andy_JS said:I don't understand the Labour decision to abstain. How can you be neutral on this?
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Fair analysis but you fail to answer my poser about the party.kle4 said:
The debate's all in good fun, but for me the principal argument is just a semantic one about the themes of the movie, and whether if you swapped it out reference to Christmas with, say, thanksgiving, or some other holiday where very few would be working, would it work just as well? Is it a Christmas movie or just a movie that happens to take place at Christmas? Was Jack Reacher 2 a halloween movie after all?Anabobazina said:It’s not clear to me why there is any debate about Die Hard being a Christmas film. The entire premise of the picture requires the tower block to be deserted - hence Christmas. Although the massive plot hole is why would any company hold its Christmas party on Christmas Eve? Don’t those people have homes to go to?
Being honest it has some elements of common Christmas movie themes of family and redemption (and of course people will disagree on what 'makes' a Christmas movie anyway) that maybe it passes muster, but it's just a silly argument anyway since it's an action movie first and foremost, and whether it 'succeeds' as a Christmas movie is rather secondary as to whether it suceeds at that.
Maybe in a later picture it will be revealed that it was an inside job. Some corrupt HR/events manager engineered to hold the party on Christmas Eve for a share of Gruber’s loot.0 -
Longer prices on the ECV bands have disappeared in the past couple of hours.
Current Betfair prices:-
Biden 1.05
Democrats 1.05
Biden PV 1.03
Biden PV 49-51.9% 1.06
Trump PV 46-48.9% 1.05
Trump ECV 210-239 1.09
Biden ECV 300-329 1.08
Biden ECV Hcap -48.5 1.05
Biden ECV Hcap -63.5 1.07
Trump ECV Hcap +81.5 1.01
AZ Dem 1.05
GA Dem 1.06
MI Dem 1.05
NV Dem 1.05
PA Dem 1.06
WI Dem 1.05
Trump to leave before end of term NO 1.12
Trump exit date 2021 1.1
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They apparently want to be the government, but without having to take any tough decisions. Opposition suits them well.Andy_JS said:I don't understand the Labour decision to abstain. How can you be neutral on this?
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Now its 6 days....
How festive bubbles could last SIX days: Families can spend longer together at Christmas if 'unforeseen disruption to travel' stops them returning home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9003117/How-festive-bubbles-SIX-days.html0 -
Is it only the British media that harps on about these few days around Christmas? It really isn't helpful.FrancisUrquhart said:Now its 6 days....
How festive bubbles could last SIX days: Families can spend longer together at Christmas if 'unforeseen disruption to travel' stops them returning home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9003117/How-festive-bubbles-SIX-days.html2 -
They are massively irresponsible. Every single f##king rule and they work out what the loophole is and make a huge deal of it.RobD said:
Is it only the British media that harps on about these few days around Christmas? It really isn't helpful.FrancisUrquhart said:Now its 6 days....
How festive bubbles could last SIX days: Families can spend longer together at Christmas if 'unforeseen disruption to travel' stops them returning home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9003117/How-festive-bubbles-SIX-days.html4 -
Just staggering. 1.05 on state results which are not only known, but have been officially certified, by the Republican elected officials.DecrepiterJohnL said:Longer prices on the ECV bands have disappeared in the past couple of hours.
Current Betfair prices:-
Biden 1.05
Democrats 1.05
Biden PV 1.03
Biden PV 49-51.9% 1.06
Trump PV 46-48.9% 1.05
Trump ECV 210-239 1.09
Biden ECV 300-329 1.08
Biden ECV Hcap -48.5 1.05
Biden ECV Hcap -63.5 1.07
Trump ECV Hcap +81.5 1.01
AZ Dem 1.05
GA Dem 1.06
MI Dem 1.05
NV Dem 1.05
PA Dem 1.06
WI Dem 1.05
Trump to leave before end of term NO 1.12
Trump exit date 2021 1.10 -
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As the phrase goes, they mistake a loophole in the rules for a loophole in the risk.FrancisUrquhart said:
They are massively irresponsible. Every single f##king rule and they work out what the loophole is and make a huge deal of it.RobD said:
Is it only the British media that harps on about these few days around Christmas? It really isn't helpful.FrancisUrquhart said:Now its 6 days....
How festive bubbles could last SIX days: Families can spend longer together at Christmas if 'unforeseen disruption to travel' stops them returning home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9003117/How-festive-bubbles-SIX-days.html6 -
Strange how these self-styled free thinking, free speaking contrarians all think and speak exactly the same on all topics.3
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Like King's Cross being shut for example?FrancisUrquhart said:Now its 6 days....
How festive bubbles could last SIX days: Families can spend longer together at Christmas if 'unforeseen disruption to travel' stops them returning home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9003117/How-festive-bubbles-SIX-days.html0 -
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?0 -
Gove promised that people planning to retire to France or Spain would be unaffected.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?0 -
Are we saying our Contrarian is JHB?0
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And a large proportion of your party want to be the opposition. Labour are just letting them practice.BluestBlue said:
They apparently want to be the government, but without having to take any tough decisions. Opposition suits them well.Andy_JS said:I don't understand the Labour decision to abstain. How can you be neutral on this?
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I think it is the time factor. If the markets will not be settled until the 14th (so a fortnight's time) then 1.05 even on a stone bonking certainty is not compelling. I posted on Sunday when Lewis Hamilton went 1.04 while cruising to the chequered flag. Settlement in a few minutes rather than two weeks. Of course, as @Peter_the_Punter discussed on the last thread, there is no reason Betfair cannot settle now but so far there is no evidence they will.Richard_Nabavi said:
Just staggering. 1.05 on state results which are not only known, but have been officially certified, by the Republican elected officials.DecrepiterJohnL said:Longer prices on the ECV bands have disappeared in the past couple of hours.
Current Betfair prices:-
Biden 1.05
Democrats 1.05
Biden PV 1.03
Biden PV 49-51.9% 1.06
Trump PV 46-48.9% 1.05
Trump ECV 210-239 1.09
Biden ECV 300-329 1.08
Biden ECV Hcap -48.5 1.05
Biden ECV Hcap -63.5 1.07
Trump ECV Hcap +81.5 1.01
AZ Dem 1.05
GA Dem 1.06
MI Dem 1.05
NV Dem 1.05
PA Dem 1.06
WI Dem 1.05
Trump to leave before end of term NO 1.12
Trump exit date 2021 1.10 -
Yes. They're always being silenced too.rcs1000 said:
Which demonstrates how much they've been oppressed. Free the Hartley-Brewer One!dixiedean said:Strange how these self-styled free thinking, free speaking contrarians all think and speak exactly the same on all topics.
I know this cos they repeatedly tell me via multiple news channels and newspaper columns several times each day.2 -
I don't think there was much underhand tactical calculation with IDS - he was just a NeoCon fanatic who felt that Tone had stolen his thunder. And the Tories never got a shred of political advantage out of Iraq anyway, so pretty stupid even if that was IDS's dastardly intent.HYUFD said:
Starmer is going to back Boris' tiers and Boris' Brexit Deal or at least abstain as a tactical decision to expose Tory rebels on the backbenches who will vote in greater numbers against if Labour are not opposed, while also ensuring both pass.Andy_JS said:I don't understand the Labour decision to abstain. How can you be neutral on this?
Similar to when IDS decided to vote for the Iraq War with the Blair government leading to over 100 Labour rebels voting against or abstaining (only this time IDS will be a leading rebel)1 -
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?0 -
They promised the Earth and enough people believed them. Once they had the result they wanted, do you think they really care that they are exposed as liars and fools? They have kept the mists of confusion going for sufficient time to set up their chumocracy and to fill all the correct pockets. Parliament has been sidelined, the Cabinet is a collection of non-entities, yes-men and sycophants.williamglenn said:
Gove promised that people planning to retire to France or Spain would be unaffected.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
Sod the retirees. All that matters now is to siphon as much money as possible out of the system and into their pockets whilst handing out largesse and favours.
They only need a few years. The rest of us will spend our lives clearing up the mess.2 -
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
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I like the new designation 'Leavers' and 'Remainers' much more than the old 'Labour' 'Tory' and 'Lib Dem' when it relates to general preferences
It's a more complete characterisation and less influenced by prevailing winds and ephemera like crackpot leaders.0 -
Another blast from the Johnson past:Richard_Nabavi said:
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/7434205476824719360 -
Like Americans, Australians or Mongolians, UK citizens will be able to apply to retire to France, if they have the means and can get the necessary permission from the French bureaucrats, having 'deposé un dossier' with all the necessary supporting documents, which if my experience of bureaucracy in France is anything to go by won't be a simple matter. They will no longer have the automatic right, nor will they get the healthcare benefits of EU citizens. It requires a very special, Brexiteer, form of abject looniness to claim that "Brexit makes no difference" to the matter, or that the Vienna Convention has anything at all to do with it (and wouldn't do even if France had signed up to it).CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/1 -
Actually even better: if they gross it up by just the basic rate, or even a bit more, it will be just as or more valuable to low-paid NHS workers, and cost the Scottish government less in total.CarlottaVance said:0 -
But then they wouldn't have their grievance.Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually even better: if they gross it up by just the basic rate, or even a bit more, it will be just as or more valuable to low-paid NHS workers, and cost the Scottish government less in total.CarlottaVance said:0 -
....and Julia Hartley Brewer speaks for every Express reader......
All six of them....0 -
Presumably the 'Vienna Convention' came from the same magical mystical place as GATT 24.Richard_Nabavi said:
Like Americans, Australians or Mongolians, UK citizens will be able to apply to retire to France, if they have the means and can get the necessary permission from the French bureaucrats, having 'deposé un dossier' with all the necessary supporting documents, which if my experience of bureaucracy in France is anything to go by won't be a simple matter. They will no longer have the automatic right, nor will they get the healthcare benefits of EU citizens. It requires a very special, Brexiteer, form of abject looniness to claim that "Brexit makes no difference" to the matter, or that the Vienna Convention has anything at all to do with it (and wouldn't do even if France had signed up to it).CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/0 -
Which appears to be the whole point of the exercise in the first place.RobD said:
But then they wouldn't have their grievance.Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually even better: if they gross it up by just the basic rate, or even a bit more, it will be just as or more valuable to low-paid NHS workers, and cost the Scottish government less in total.CarlottaVance said:0 -
And did we properly leverage the genius of Demis and his team at deepminds to model covid, did we bollocks....
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Ah yes, I'd forgotten that one. That was quite a meme at one point. Long forgotten now of course, as the loons move on to the next fantasy or post-hoc rationalisation contradicting everything originally promised.Stark_Dawning said:
Presumably the 'Vienna Convention' came from the same magical mystical place as GATT 24.Richard_Nabavi said:
Like Americans, Australians or Mongolians, UK citizens will be able to apply to retire to France, if they have the means and can get the necessary permission from the French bureaucrats, having 'deposé un dossier' with all the necessary supporting documents, which if my experience of bureaucracy in France is anything to go by won't be a simple matter. They will no longer have the automatic right, nor will they get the healthcare benefits of EU citizens. It requires a very special, Brexiteer, form of abject looniness to claim that "Brexit makes no difference" to the matter, or that the Vienna Convention has anything at all to do with it (and wouldn't do even if France had signed up to it).CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
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At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized
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Have we found where all Dishy Rishi public spending is coming from?
BBC News - Brazil's Amazon: Deforestation 'surges to 12-year high'
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While there is more paperwork, that doesn't seem particularly challenging.Roger said:
At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized0 -
In France isn't that the standars sort of level of paperwork you normally need to do to buy a new sofa?Roger said:
At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized3 -
DeepMind's work on protein folding is transformational but how exactly would we have utilised this for Covid work? And iirc other tech firms like Amazon and IBM were offering free AI and even quantum computing to researchers.FrancisUrquhart said:And did we properly leverage the genius of Demis and his team at deepminds to model covid, did we bollocks....
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1333538030813122561?s=09
It is unfortunate (and unfortunately typical) that yet another groundbreaking British firm was sold to the Americans (viz Google) but perhaps that is a discussion for another day.
Protein folding -- just rejoice at this news, as Mrs T said in another context.
ETA and nailed on for a Nobel Prize, one imagines.0 -
Over the past few years, Deepminds have hired 100s of PhDs in Machine Learning. Although their main thrust of work is reinforcement learning, they have incredibly talented and knowledgeable individuals that have backgrounds in a wide range of tasks. They also have the engineering talent and resources to build, test and evolve models quickly.DecrepiterJohnL said:
DeepMind's work on protein folding is transformational but how exactly would we have utilised this for Covid work? And iirc other tech firms like Amazon and IBM were offering free AI and even quantum computing to researchers.FrancisUrquhart said:And did we properly leverage the genius of Demis and his team at deepminds to model covid, did we bollocks....
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1333538030813122561?s=09
It is unfortunate (and unfortunately typical) that yet another groundbreaking British firm was sold to the Americans (viz Google) but perhaps that is a discussion for another day.
Protein folding -- just rejoice at this news, as Mrs T said in another context.
The last time I had dinner with one of the fairly senior employees, they said they had a whole large team whose only job was implementing the latest machine learning papers.
Modelling COVID data is absolutely in their wheelhouse. They have already worked with NHS data on some projects.0 -
Moved onto bigger and better things. Appearing in Trump infomercials for Fox News.williamglenn said:
Another blast from the Johnson past:Richard_Nabavi said:
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/743420547682471936
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I was completely gobsmacked by French bureaucracy when I went there as a post-grad student in the 1970s, especially in contrast to my experience at Oxford where you turned up at the college, gave your name to the porter, and that was it. At one point I was completely flummoxed because the harridans behind the 'guichet' where I had to present my paperwork demanded a 'livret de famille', which has no equivalent in the UK. Explaining that there was no such thing got me nowhere. Fortunately I was rescued by a wonderful lady at the British Council who told me to leave my passport with her for an hour or so. She photocopied it various different ways up, covered it in stamps, and told me to present that as the 'livret de famille', which worked a treat.FrancisUrquhart said:
In France isn't that the standars sort of level of paperwork you normally need to do to buy a new sofa?Roger said:
At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized
What was even more hilarious was that you to go through all this palaver every year, despite the fact that your grandmother's maiden name was unlikely to have changed in the interim.
Mind you, I think the UK has done a good job in catching up with insane bureaucracy in the past three decades.1 -
That is not entirely true, in 2005 the Tories gained 33 seats with just a 0.7% rise in voteshare as significant numbers of Labour voters went LD in protest at the Iraq War. Albeit it was Howard who benefited, not by then IDSStark_Dawning said:
I don't think there was much underhand tactical calculation with IDS - he was just a NeoCon fanatic who felt that Tone had stolen his thunder. And the Tories never got a shred of political advantage out of Iraq anyway, so pretty stupid even if that was IDS's dastardly intent.HYUFD said:
Starmer is going to back Boris' tiers and Boris' Brexit Deal or at least abstain as a tactical decision to expose Tory rebels on the backbenches who will vote in greater numbers against if Labour are not opposed, while also ensuring both pass.Andy_JS said:I don't understand the Labour decision to abstain. How can you be neutral on this?
Similar to when IDS decided to vote for the Iraq War with the Blair government leading to over 100 Labour rebels voting against or abstaining (only this time IDS will be a leading rebel)0 -
There is also the small but far from negligible possibility that Betfair will change the rules again. Why have they picked on Dec 14th? It makes no sense in terms of their original rules. They may as well pick Christmas Day. Or maybe they will go for inauguration day. Or maybe they will decide they are waiting for Trump to concede, in which case they may never settle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
I think it is the time factor. If the markets will not be settled until the 14th (so a fortnight's time) then 1.05 even on a stone bonking certainty is not compelling. I posted on Sunday when Lewis Hamilton went 1.04 while cruising to the chequered flag. Settlement in a few minutes rather than two weeks. Of course, as @Peter_the_Punter discussed on the last thread, there is no reason Betfair cannot settle now but so far there is no evidence they will.Richard_Nabavi said:
Just staggering. 1.05 on state results which are not only known, but have been officially certified, by the Republican elected officials.DecrepiterJohnL said:Longer prices on the ECV bands have disappeared in the past couple of hours.
Current Betfair prices:-
Biden 1.05
Democrats 1.05
Biden PV 1.03
Biden PV 49-51.9% 1.06
Trump PV 46-48.9% 1.05
Trump ECV 210-239 1.09
Biden ECV 300-329 1.08
Biden ECV Hcap -48.5 1.05
Biden ECV Hcap -63.5 1.07
Trump ECV Hcap +81.5 1.01
AZ Dem 1.05
GA Dem 1.06
MI Dem 1.05
NV Dem 1.05
PA Dem 1.06
WI Dem 1.05
Trump to leave before end of term NO 1.12
Trump exit date 2021 1.1
We are dealing with a capricious market maker. All we can do is hope for the best and never, ever bet with them again.0 -
There are more than six Roger, but their average reading age is six. Perhaps that is what confused you...Roger said:....and Julia Hartley Brewer speaks for every Express reader......
All six of them....
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Chavs are going to be outraged.CarlottaVance said:Where Arcadia goes...
https://twitter.com/aarmstrong_says/status/1333518807160287234?s=210 -
Do both passports have to be in the same name?Roger said:
At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized0 -
Another example of how any deal can be portrayed as a sell-out if Leavers are not minded to give Boris an easy ride.
https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/13335451229995048970 -
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@Roger ‘s list is similar to the one I have to use every couple of years to prove to the school that I am who I say I am, despite having worked there since the last millennium.Richard_Nabavi said:
I was completely gobsmacked by French bureaucracy when I went there as a post-grad student in the 1970s, especially in contrast to my experience at Oxford where you turned up at the college, gave your name to the porter, and that was it. At one point I was completely flummoxed because the harridans behind the 'guichet' where I had to present my paperwork demanded a 'livret de famille', which has no equivalent in the UK. Explaining that there was no such thing got me nowhere. Fortunately I was rescued by a wonderful lady at the British Council who told me to leave my passport with her for an hour or so. She photocopied it various different ways up, covered it in stamps, and told me to present that as the 'livret de famille', which worked a treat.FrancisUrquhart said:
In France isn't that the standars sort of level of paperwork you normally need to do to buy a new sofa?Roger said:
At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized
What was even more hilarious was that you to go through all this palaver every year, despite the fact that your grandmother's maiden name was unlikely to have changed in the interim.
Mind you, I think the UK has done a good job in catching up with insane bureaucracy in the past three decades.2 -
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As basically every one of the new Spitting image sketches, not funny.HYUFD said:Starmer and Sunak make their first Spitting Image appearances
youtu.be/-tAdOg1OoGk2 -
OT Strictly -- I've just noticed
Yes, I do not doubt they have the brain power and computing power to do it but Google and not HMG pays the piper.FrancisUrquhart said:
Over the past few years, Deepminds have hired 100s of PhDs in Machine Learning. Although their main thrust of work is reinforcement learning, they have incredibly talented and knowledgeable individuals that have backgrounds in a wide range of tasks. They also have the engineering talent and resources to build, test and evolve models quickly.DecrepiterJohnL said:
DeepMind's work on protein folding is transformational but how exactly would we have utilised this for Covid work? And iirc other tech firms like Amazon and IBM were offering free AI and even quantum computing to researchers.FrancisUrquhart said:And did we properly leverage the genius of Demis and his team at deepminds to model covid, did we bollocks....
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1333538030813122561?s=09
It is unfortunate (and unfortunately typical) that yet another groundbreaking British firm was sold to the Americans (viz Google) but perhaps that is a discussion for another day.
Protein folding -- just rejoice at this news, as Mrs T said in another context.
The last time I had dinner with one of the fairly senior employees, they said they had a whole large team whose only job was implementing the latest machine learning papers.
Modelling COVID data is absolutely in their wheelhouse. They have already worked with NHS data on some projects.0 -
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"One of biology's biggest mysteries 'largely solved' by AI"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-551339720 -
When I was MP for Broxtowe I thought I ought really to move my RBS bank branch from London to the constituency - put down local roots and all that. They had a 4-page form and multiple identity requirements, despite the fact that I visited the branch regularly, they all knew me personally, and it was THE SAME BANK.Fysics_Teacher said:
@Roger ‘s list is similar to the one I have to use every couple of years to prove to the school that I am who I say I am, despite having worked there since the last millennium.
I gave up, and to this day my bank account is in the Kensington branch where I opened it more than 50 years ago. I haven't been there for decades, and for all I know it no longer exists.2 -
Calling JHB a contrarian is a terribly polite response.
How big a faction is she in? Herself, Trump, and Jeremy Corbyn’s brother. The three of them. And what they need to know it’s actually the rest of us who won’t forget what this lunatic fringe came out with.0 -
That does not surprise me.NickPalmer said:
When I was MP for Broxtowe I thought I ought really to move my RBS bank branch from London to the constituency - put down local roots and all that. They had a 4-page form and multiple identity requirements, despite the fact that I visited the branch regularly, they all knew me personally, and it was THE SAME BANK.Fysics_Teacher said:
@Roger ‘s list is similar to the one I have to use every couple of years to prove to the school that I am who I say I am, despite having worked there since the last millennium.
I gave up, and to this day my bank account is in the Kensington branch where I opened it more than 50 years ago. I haven't been there for decades, and for all I know it no longer exists.
In my experience, NatWest/RBS are the single most incompetent organisation in the UK.0 -
One of the best things about this country was how you almost never got asked for ID, except at airports. Unfortunately in the last 10 years or so that's started to change.Richard_Nabavi said:
I was completely gobsmacked by French bureaucracy when I went there as a post-grad student in the 1970s, especially in contrast to my experience at Oxford where you turned up at the college, gave your name to the porter, and that was it. At one point I was completely flummoxed because the harridans behind the 'guichet' where I had to present my paperwork demanded a 'livret de famille', which has no equivalent in the UK. Explaining that there was no such thing got me nowhere. Fortunately I was rescued by a wonderful lady at the British Council who told me to leave my passport with her for an hour or so. She photocopied it various different ways up, covered it in stamps, and told me to present that as the 'livret de famille', which worked a treat.FrancisUrquhart said:
In France isn't that the standars sort of level of paperwork you normally need to do to buy a new sofa?Roger said:
At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized
What was even more hilarious was that you to go through all this palaver every year, despite the fact that your grandmother's maiden name was unlikely to have changed in the interim.
Mind you, I think the UK has done a good job in catching up with insane bureaucracy in the past three decades.0 -
Piers Corbyn does know some science, although he seems to be in need of therapy. He was a gifted physicist when young, but nowadays he has the demeanour of a frustrated & disappointed man.gealbhan said:Calling JHB a contrarian is a terribly polite response.
How big a faction is she in? Herself, Trump, and Jeremy Corbyn’s brother. The three of them. And what they need to know it’s actually the rest of us who won’t forget what this lunatic fringe came out with.
Trump & Hartley-Brewer know no science. Their ignorance is elephantine. Tiny brains and colossal egos.0 -
China attempted to hide the severity of their Covid problems? Who would have thunk it?williamglenn said:2 -
Nine states certified results yesterday (Monday).
In total 36 states have now certified. So 15 to go (inc DC).
See link - note due dates are only approximate - as you can see some dates have been missed, others have certified early.
All six states which Trump is disputing have now certified - ie PA, MI, WI, GA, AZ, NV.
https://www.270towin.com/news/2020/11/22/interactive-map-states-certifying-2020-presidential-election-results_1131.html1 -
I think it's correct that according to their official figures no-one has died of Covid-19 in China for about 6 months, which is difficult to believe to put it mildly.rcs1000 said:
China attempted to hide the severity of their Covid problems? Who would have thunk it?williamglenn said:0 -
Important (per The Times):
LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THE FIXED TERM PARLIAMENTS ACT IS BEING PUBLISHED TODAY.
Seem to recall someone (or maybe several people?) posting on here that this couldn't be done as it would mean restoring a royal prerogative. Well, not sure whether or not that's correct but Boris appears to think he can do it.0 -
Boris Johnson will start to claw back the power to call an election today with a warning to judges to keep out of decisions to bring parliaments to a close.MikeL said:Important (per The Times):
LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THE FIXED TERM PARLIAMENTS ACT IS BEING PUBLISHED TODAY.
Seem to recall someone (or maybe several people?) posting on here that this couldn't be done as it would mean restoring a royal prerogative. Well, not sure whether or not that's correct but Boris appears to think he can do it.
Legislation repealing the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (FTPA) is published today, with ministers seeking to restore the power to go to the country conferred by royal prerogative, according to senior government sources.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/boris-johnson-will-take-back-power-to-call-elections-hlzn53nd9
We'll skip over the whole limiting the power of the courts thing. I'm not sure who "senior government sources" are now that Dominic Cummings has left but The Times could more easily have read it on the BBC "the week ahead" site at the weekend.
Unfixing terms: having twice driven a coach and horses through the coalition-era requirement that general elections should be five years apart, with the early elections of 2017 and 2019, it's rumoured that the government's about to publish a draft bill to repeal Nick Clegg's Fixed Term Parliament Act, thereby providing a bonanza for constitutional scholars and procedural hair-splitters. Can they reconstruct the Royal Prerogative? How long should a Parliament last? Will prime ministers once more have the power to spring a snap election on a slumbering opposition? All this and more will be fought out in a new joint parliamentary committee under former Conservative Chief Whip, Lord McLoughlin. Anoraks will be worn.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-551057350 -
Even if you can't restore the Royal prerogative, you can legislate to reestablish a functionally equivalent power.MikeL said:Important (per The Times):
LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THE FIXED TERM PARLIAMENTS ACT IS BEING PUBLISHED TODAY.
Seem to recall someone (or maybe several people?) posting on here that this couldn't be done as it would mean restoring a royal prerogative. Well, not sure whether or not that's correct but Boris appears to think he can do it.2 -
They're simply going to allow parliaments to run and run. No Generals from now on, just occasional by-elections when people die.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Boris Johnson will start to claw back the power to call an election today with a warning to judges to keep out of decisions to bring parliaments to a close.MikeL said:Important (per The Times):
LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THE FIXED TERM PARLIAMENTS ACT IS BEING PUBLISHED TODAY.
Seem to recall someone (or maybe several people?) posting on here that this couldn't be done as it would mean restoring a royal prerogative. Well, not sure whether or not that's correct but Boris appears to think he can do it.
Legislation repealing the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (FTPA) is published today, with ministers seeking to restore the power to go to the country conferred by royal prerogative, according to senior government sources.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/boris-johnson-will-take-back-power-to-call-elections-hlzn53nd9
We'll skip over the whole limiting the power of the courts thing. I'm not sure who "senior government sources" are now that Dominic Cummings has left but The Times could more easily have read it on the BBC "the week ahead" site at the weekend.
Unfixing terms: having twice driven a coach and horses through the coalition-era requirement that general elections should be five years apart, with the early elections of 2017 and 2019, it's rumoured that the government's about to publish a draft bill to repeal Nick Clegg's Fixed Term Parliament Act, thereby providing a bonanza for constitutional scholars and procedural hair-splitters. Can they reconstruct the Royal Prerogative? How long should a Parliament last? Will prime ministers once more have the power to spring a snap election on a slumbering opposition? All this and more will be fought out in a new joint parliamentary committee under former Conservative Chief Whip, Lord McLoughlin. Anoraks will be worn.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-551057350 -
I thought you were going to say, "No Generals, just Colonels."rcs1000 said:
They're simply going to allow parliaments to run and run. No Generals from now on, just occasional by-elections when people die.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Boris Johnson will start to claw back the power to call an election today with a warning to judges to keep out of decisions to bring parliaments to a close.MikeL said:Important (per The Times):
LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THE FIXED TERM PARLIAMENTS ACT IS BEING PUBLISHED TODAY.
Seem to recall someone (or maybe several people?) posting on here that this couldn't be done as it would mean restoring a royal prerogative. Well, not sure whether or not that's correct but Boris appears to think he can do it.
Legislation repealing the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (FTPA) is published today, with ministers seeking to restore the power to go to the country conferred by royal prerogative, according to senior government sources.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/boris-johnson-will-take-back-power-to-call-elections-hlzn53nd9
We'll skip over the whole limiting the power of the courts thing. I'm not sure who "senior government sources" are now that Dominic Cummings has left but The Times could more easily have read it on the BBC "the week ahead" site at the weekend.
Unfixing terms: having twice driven a coach and horses through the coalition-era requirement that general elections should be five years apart, with the early elections of 2017 and 2019, it's rumoured that the government's about to publish a draft bill to repeal Nick Clegg's Fixed Term Parliament Act, thereby providing a bonanza for constitutional scholars and procedural hair-splitters. Can they reconstruct the Royal Prerogative? How long should a Parliament last? Will prime ministers once more have the power to spring a snap election on a slumbering opposition? All this and more will be fought out in a new joint parliamentary committee under former Conservative Chief Whip, Lord McLoughlin. Anoraks will be worn.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-551057351 -
Most of that list is needed now if you want to reside in a EU country.Roger said:
At the moment you just need a passport to get you there. From your link;CarlottaVance said:
1 It’s 90 days in any 180 - so could be up to 180 days in a year.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well it was a characteristically incoherent tweet by our PM whose use of English is slapdash, but UK residents aren't citizens resident outside the UK, so it's unclear quite what he meant. Either way it has turned out to be garbage on three counts: 1. The rights of UK citizens resident in the UK have certainly been adversely affected, for example they can't spend more than 90 days in the EU country in a year without a visa, and can't retire there. 2. UK citizens resident in the EU have been affected in multiple ways, for example in freedom to move to other EU countries and on healthcare. And 3. The Vienna Convention is 100% irrelevant to the matter irrespective of anything else.CarlottaVance said:
Hasn’t the WA protected the rights of U.K. citizens resident in France?Richard_Nabavi said:
It’s visitors who have been complaining about the “90 days in 180” today.
Wonder when we’ll reciprocate?
2 Americans can retire to France, why wouldn’t UK citizens be able to?
https://internationalliving.com/countries/france/retire/
A passport, signed and valid for three months after the last day of stay
One application forms, signed and legibly filled out
One passport-size photo glued/stapled to the form
A current passport
Proof of means of income
Proof of medical insurance
Proof of accommodation in France
Proof of legal status in North America (copy of green card, etc.)
Letter promising not to engage in employment in France
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Processing fees
An e-ticket or reservation record showing date of departure to France
One long-term residence form, which must be completed, dated, signed, and notarized0 -
The Fixed Term Parliament Act...an old PB favourite, FWIW it has definitely run its course if it ever really ran after the 2015 election....goodness knows what they replace it with but I sense that it will inevitably be messy and to no-one's satisfaction.1
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In that report the numbers aren't as fudged by as much as the west has already said they think they were.williamglenn said:twitter.com/theleadcnn/status/1333539332330643456?s=21
The big revelation that they were taking 3 weeks to return a test if somebody was positive or not. And that two other cities had seen big spikes in "flu" before all the stuff about the market.0 -
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Actually, I find it quite easy to believe. People who are smothered or given lethal injections didn’t die of COVID-19, even if they were going to otherwise.Andy_JS said:
I think it's correct that according to their official figures no-one has died of Covid-19 in China for about 6 months, which is difficult to believe to put it mildly.rcs1000 said:
China attempted to hide the severity of their Covid problems? Who would have thunk it?williamglenn said:0 -
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Is this a portent of Trump’s imminent departure ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/01/german-police-investigate-after-giant-phallic-monument-vanishes0 -
If you'd been a Russian with a billion or so for the current account I suspect they'd have been falling over themselves!NickPalmer said:
When I was MP for Broxtowe I thought I ought really to move my RBS bank branch from London to the constituency - put down local roots and all that. They had a 4-page form and multiple identity requirements, despite the fact that I visited the branch regularly, they all knew me personally, and it was THE SAME BANK.Fysics_Teacher said:
@Roger ‘s list is similar to the one I have to use every couple of years to prove to the school that I am who I say I am, despite having worked there since the last millennium.
I gave up, and to this day my bank account is in the Kensington branch where I opened it more than 50 years ago. I haven't been there for decades, and for all I know it no longer exists.
Three or four years ago, as (then) Secretary and therefore a cheque signatory of a small local charity(t/o ca £5k pa) I had to go some 20 miles to what was now the nearest branch of our bank as we wanted to reorganise our accounts. Took something like an hour to go through all the details. I had to take my passport, a couple of household bills and details of my personal banking, as well of course as a copy of the Minutes of the committee meeting at which the decision had been made, agreed by the members and counter-signed by the Chair.0 -
The scientific advances at the tail end of 2020, happening right under our very noses right here, right now, will be looked back on in 10, 20, 100 years as giant leaps for humankind.FrancisUrquhart said:
It's gobsmacking what is happening. This one above is astounding. So too is the mRNA revolutionary breakthrough. The technology will open up all manner of new treatments as well as bring an end to the wretched virus.
An incredible, fantastic, moment to be alive.
And, I have to say, a stunning achievement by the UK Gov't to secure large quantities of vaccines from 7 different trial producers.
Back to the protein discovery though: it's a breakthrough moment in understanding life.0 -
I have no objection to Covid restrictions - they are clearly needed and frankly the "lockdown" we have just had should have been a Lockdown. I do object to the latest Tiers though - they are punitive and illogical. Unless Dishy Rishi is persuaded to part with flipping great wodges of cash I can see the proposals being defeated.
Labour's decision to abstention before this is debated is I am afraid a sign of the party's utter disconnection with reality. They are so busy fighting each other and so far removed from the thoughts of both current and former Labour voters that they have decided that the safest course of action is not to turn up. They clearly think the proposal is wrong. Will berate the government for it all through the debate. Then abstain. What is the point of them?1 -
Good morning, everyone.
You can back Bottas and Verstappen at 5.5 and 6 on Ladbrokes to win. And should:
https://twitter.com/F1/status/13336712862964899840 -
On the point about Covid-19 vaccination, I assume there'll be a certificate if some sort.
Similar to an ID card?0 -
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Presumably.OldKingCole said:On the point about Covid-19 vaccination, I assume there'll be a certificate if some sort.
Similar to an ID card?
For yellow fever you get an International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis, in a form authorised by the WHO. It would seem sensible to have international standards for covid certificates too. Don't know if this is the intention.0 -
An opportunity for VanDonkey?Scott_xP said:0 -
Another bet you may want to consider is Albon or Perez to win each way (third the odds top 2) in case woe befalls one of the top 2. You can get those at 61 with Ladbrokes, with boost, until the odds change.0
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i-liar....
Apple fined €10M by Italian watchdog over iPhone waterproofing claims
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/11/30/21726287/italy-apple-fine-iphone-waterproofing-warranty0
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