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UK Punters still not totally convinced that Biden will be President – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 11,005
edited November 2020 in General
imageUK Punters still not totally convinced that Biden will be President – politicalbetting.com

Above is the latest betting chart from Betdata.io of the £600m Betfair next president market.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,279
    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 3,949
    You can get 1/4 or even a tad longer on all states ending as expected (Biden wins PA/GA/NV but loses NC, AZ doesn't actually matter either way). The 48.5 EC Handicap market. Quite remarkable. In a normal cycle it would be 1.03.
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited November 2020
    CarlottaVance said:



    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20


    The train of delusion, picking up speed for about four and a half years now, is about to finally crash into the buffers, and if mitigating steps aren't taken the results won't be pretty.
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    JACK_WJACK_W Posts: 651
    Incidentally has the PB coup taken place ?!?

    Has @HYUFD taken over and placed OGH in chains in Bedford Prison with @rcs1000 in permanent exile across the pond ??
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,279
    JACK_W said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    PB bows to your greater personal knowledge on the subject ....
    I will refer you to opening of this thread header I wrote last year.

    ‘Never trust anybody who spells gonorrhoea correctly on the first attempt’ is a maxim that has served me well in life, I might revise that maxim to ‘Never trust anybody who says a no deal Brexit will be fine.’ I suspect many MPs are also guided by the latter maxim.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,954
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,936
    Al Gore conceded on December 13th 2000, so on that basis the latest Trump could concede is the day before the EC vote
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,279
    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    My friend insists that children are the best STD.

    Or as he likes to call them 'crotchfruit'.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,621
    JACK_W said:

    Incidentally has the PB coup taken place ?!?

    Has @HYUFD taken over and placed OGH in chains in Bedford Prison with @rcs1000 in permanent exile across the pond ??

    I would be happy to serve as Grand Vizier to any regime, with all the trustworthiness that implies.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,279
    HYUFD said:

    Al Gore conceded on December 13th 2000, so on that basis the latest Trump could concede is the day before the EC vote

    Al Gore was a man of honour, Donald Trump is not.
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    eekeek Posts: 24,932
    A 9% chance that people have misinterpreted Betfair's actual Terms and Conditions for the bet - sounds about right.
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    GaussianGaussian Posts: 793
    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,279
    Surprised this hasn't already happened at a transport hub.

    Covid-19 outbreak at Manchester Piccadilly train station as 53 staff sent home

    It's understood a staff member took a test on Monday before arriving for his shift on Tuesday, only to receive the positive result later that day

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-piccadilly-covid-19-outbreak-19257364
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,141
    It might be helpful to have a specific autogolpe market.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    CarlottaVance said:

    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20

    If the EU wants a deal they can compromise and agree to our terms or meet us in the middle.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,279
    kle4 said:

    JACK_W said:

    Incidentally has the PB coup taken place ?!?

    Has @HYUFD taken over and placed OGH in chains in Bedford Prison with @rcs1000 in permanent exile across the pond ??

    I would be happy to serve as Grand Vizier to any regime, with all the trustworthiness that implies.
    You'll be made Viceroy of Wales.
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    eekeek Posts: 24,932
    WhisperingOracle said:

    CarlottaVance said:



    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20


    The train of delusion, picking up speed for about four and a half years now, is about to finally crash into the buffers, and if mitigating steps aren't taken the results won't be pretty.
    I have money and I have popcorn - sadly the one thing I can't do is watch it from a distance..
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    JACK_WJACK_W Posts: 651
    kle4 said:

    JACK_W said:

    Incidentally has the PB coup taken place ?!?

    Has @HYUFD taken over and placed OGH in chains in Bedford Prison with @rcs1000 in permanent exile across the pond ??

    I would be happy to serve as Grand Vizier to any regime, with all the trustworthiness that implies.
    Unless you have experience in the higher echelons of the GOP in Mississippi on your CV, then I regret to say you are disqualified .... forgeries are however entirely valid.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,754
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    HYUFD said:

    Al Gore conceded on December 13th 2000, so on that basis the latest Trump could concede is the day before the EC vote

    Al Gore was a man of honour, Donald Trump is not.
    Are there two Al Gores ?
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,848
    https://twitter.com/TheMichaelMoran/status/1326507737493237760
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,899
    edited November 2020
    eek said:

    A 9% chance that people have misinterpreted Betfair's actual Terms and Conditions for the bet - sounds about right.

    I specifically asked Betfair about a coup on twitter. They don't have a clue.
    You'd have thought with half a billion quid in the balance someone might y'know be able to know what their rules actually are ?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    JACK_W said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    JACK_W said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    PB bows to your greater personal knowledge on the subject ....
    I will refer you to opening of this thread header I wrote last year.

    ‘Never trust anybody who spells gonorrhoea correctly on the first attempt’ is a maxim that has served me well in life, I might revise that maxim to ‘Never trust anybody who says a no deal Brexit will be fine.’ I suspect many MPs are also guided by the latter maxim.
    Substantial clap for @TheScreamingEagles .....
    A pox on your puns.....
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,625
    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    Settling a £600m market? Its not the 1230 at Wincanton.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,606
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Surprised this hasn't already happened at a transport hub.

    Covid-19 outbreak at Manchester Piccadilly train station as 53 staff sent home

    It's understood a staff member took a test on Monday before arriving for his shift on Tuesday, only to receive the positive result later that day

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-piccadilly-covid-19-outbreak-19257364

    That's a really good turnaround time, hopefully all of those 53 get results just as quickly.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    JACK_W said:

    kle4 said:

    JACK_W said:

    Incidentally has the PB coup taken place ?!?

    Has @HYUFD taken over and placed OGH in chains in Bedford Prison with @rcs1000 in permanent exile across the pond ??

    I would be happy to serve as Grand Vizier to any regime, with all the trustworthiness that implies.
    Unless you have experience in the higher echelons of the GOP in Mississippi on your CV, then I regret to say you are disqualified .... forgeries are however entirely valid.
    Is the BBC running it?
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    noneoftheabove said:

    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    Settling a £600m market? Its not the 1230 at Wincanton.
    Plus I'm sure they're happy to keep getting commission from the matched bets of all those fools throwing money away.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Quincel said:

    You can get 1/4 or even a tad longer on all states ending as expected (Biden wins PA/GA/NV but loses NC, AZ doesn't actually matter either way). The 48.5 EC Handicap market. Quite remarkable. In a normal cycle it would be 1.03.

    Fuck it, broken my staking limits for that.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,279
    FPT
    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
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    GaussianGaussian Posts: 793
    Philip_Thompson said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    Settling a £600m market? Its not the 1230 at Wincanton.
    Plus I'm sure they're happy to keep getting commission from the matched bets of all those fools throwing money away.
    Quite. That actually gives them an incentive to craft ambiguous rules or rules that don't fully match the title of the market.
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    I don't want anybody to rise to that one
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,621
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    JACK_W said:

    Incidentally has the PB coup taken place ?!?

    Has @HYUFD taken over and placed OGH in chains in Bedford Prison with @rcs1000 in permanent exile across the pond ??

    I would be happy to serve as Grand Vizier to any regime, with all the trustworthiness that implies.
    You'll be made Viceroy of Wales.
    That's fine, I love the Welsh - they know their place :)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    On InfoWars, Steve Pieczenik, a former state department assistant secretary, and Tom Clancy co-writer turned QAnon truther, explained how the ‘voter fraud’ had been permitted by an all-seeing Trump because it was in fact an elaborate sting operation against his enemies: “We watermarked every ballot paper with blockchain technology…. We know very well where every one went. All of this was expected.” Or, to quote Q’s unofficial slogan: Trust The Plan.

    https://unherd.com/2020/11/why-qanon-will-always-be-right/
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,558
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    JACK_W said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    PB bows to your greater personal knowledge on the subject ....
    I will refer you to opening of this thread header I wrote last year.

    ‘Never trust anybody who spells gonorrhoea correctly on the first attempt’ is a maxim that has served me well in life, I might revise that maxim to ‘Never trust anybody who says a no deal Brexit will be fine.’ I suspect many MPs are also guided by the latter maxim.
    How are you spelling gonorrhia?
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,040
    WhisperingOracle said:

    CarlottaVance said:



    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20


    The train of delusion, picking up speed for about four and a half years now, is about to finally crash into the buffers, and if mitigating steps aren't taken the results won't be pretty.
    We don't need a trade deal now Boris has discovered a vaccine!

    Although I did wonder what might happen, if our inbound 30,000,000 dose consignment from Pfizer Germany, gets held up for several months on the M2 lorry park, while HMRC check the manifests.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,625
    People backing Trump 61% or more of the popular vote too!

    Presumably needs all main ballots to be rejected nationwide to come in.....(not sure if thats enough but no other way)
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    BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,987
    edited November 2020


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    JACK_WJACK_W Posts: 651
    Scott Wong and Mark Lillis of "The Hill" assess the prospects of Republicans serving in the Biden administration :

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525390-republicans-who-could-serve-in-a-biden-government
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,936
    edited November 2020
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    A close aide of Ronald Reagan once remarked 'I have never seen a man so pussywhipped by his wife in all my life', this clip also illustrates the point about Nancy's control over Reagan (and I think Jill Biden will similarly be a powerful force in the new White House over Joe)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTtI3D6lqk
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    BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    Well, she was a bit of a homophonophobe...
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,848
    Mexicanpete said:

    We don't need a trade deal now Boris has discovered a vaccine!

    Although I did wonder what might happen, if our inbound 30,000,000 dose consignment from Pfizer Germany, gets held up for several months on the M2 lorry park, while HMRC check the manifests.


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    alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    I'm not sure what relevance that has to the UK. And existence of precedent is not evidence that such a thing should be a non-story.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,040
    Alanbrooke said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    HYUFD said:

    Al Gore conceded on December 13th 2000, so on that basis the latest Trump could concede is the day before the EC vote

    Al Gore was a man of honour, Donald Trump is not.
    Are there two Al Gores ?
    One thing in Donald Trump Snr's favour is that he is not the worst person called Donald Trump.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,215
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    JACK_W said:

    Incidentally has the PB coup taken place ?!?

    Has @HYUFD taken over and placed OGH in chains in Bedford Prison with @rcs1000 in permanent exile across the pond ??

    I would be happy to serve as Grand Vizier to any regime, with all the trustworthiness that implies.
    You'll be made Viceroy of Wales.
    That's fine, I love the Welsh - they know their place :)
    "It profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world ... but for Wales?"
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,079
    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    At some point they will need to settle BIDEN WINNER but having failed to do it when they should have done - on the call of PA when he passed 270 and the networks decreed him President Elect - they now have no distinct and specific "event" to hang the closure on. Also there are big commissionable sums being traded and so they have little incentive to bring the hammer down until they really have to. It's an interesting situation.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited November 2020
    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    I'm not sure what relevance that has to the UK. And existence of precedent is not evidence that such a thing should be a non-story.
    Man consults wife/fiancée for advice is a total non-story.

    Do you never discuss anything with your significant other?
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    eekeek Posts: 24,932
    Philip_Thompson said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20

    If the EU wants a deal they can compromise and agree to our terms or meet us in the middle.
    Why? We don't hold the advantage here no matter what you may wish..
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    kinabalu said:

    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    At some point they will need to settle BIDEN WINNER but having failed to do it when they should have done - on the call of PA when he passed 270 and the networks decreed him President Elect - they now have no distinct and specific "event" to hang the closure on. Also there are big commissionable sums being traded and so they have little incentive to bring the hammer down until they really have to. It's an interesting situation.
    Surely the Electoral College vote now is the event?

    Or if it goes before Supreme Court and they dismiss it that would be an earlier event?
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    eek said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20

    If the EU wants a deal they can compromise and agree to our terms or meet us in the middle.
    Why? We don't hold the advantage here no matter what you may wish..
    Of course we do. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,079
    Barnesian said:



    Forgot to ask you @Barnesian - hopefully you held your nerve and made a profit on the Biden win?

    (Feel a personal interest since you once said you'd "followed" me into doing it.)
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,040
    Philip_Thompson said:

    eek said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20

    If the EU wants a deal they can compromise and agree to our terms or meet us in the middle.
    Why? We don't hold the advantage here no matter what you may wish..
    Of course we do. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    It's the way you tell 'em!
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 12,976
    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    The worst I have seen was the dose a shipmate got in Bahrain. He had rubbered up but this Uzbek sort's batter was so toxic it rotted the skin of his shaft were the protection of the coxglove ended. Amazing and exactly the type of thing I joined up to see.
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    alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    Philip_Thompson said:

    eek said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20

    If the EU wants a deal they can compromise and agree to our terms or meet us in the middle.
    Why? We don't hold the advantage here no matter what you may wish..
    Of course we do. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Do the thousands of businesses and millions of jobs that depend on the outcome of these negotiations get an opinion on this?
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,848
    https://twitter.com/SophiaSleigh/status/1326516649802010627
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    alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    Philip_Thompson said:

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    I'm not sure what relevance that has to the UK. And existence of precedent is not evidence that such a thing should be a non-story.
    Man consults wife/fiancée for advice is a total non-story.

    Do you never discuss anything with your significant other?
    Do you need to repeat my earlier post?

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326507872683962370?s=20
    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326515433923629056?s=20
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,621
    Dura_Ace said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    The worst I have seen was the dose a shipmate got in Bahrain. He had rubbered up but this Uzbek sort's batter was so toxic it rotted the skin of his shaft were the protection of the coxglove ended. Amazing and exactly the type of thing I joined up to see.
    Oh dear god. Though I blame theuniondivvie for opening the door here.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,079
    Philip_Thompson said:

    kinabalu said:

    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    At some point they will need to settle BIDEN WINNER but having failed to do it when they should have done - on the call of PA when he passed 270 and the networks decreed him President Elect - they now have no distinct and specific "event" to hang the closure on. Also there are big commissionable sums being traded and so they have little incentive to bring the hammer down until they really have to. It's an interesting situation.
    Surely the Electoral College vote now is the event?

    Or if it goes before Supreme Court and they dismiss it that would be an earlier event?
    Could be. But we don't know and neither do Betfair. Or if they do they're not saying.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,754
    alex_ said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    eek said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20

    If the EU wants a deal they can compromise and agree to our terms or meet us in the middle.
    Why? We don't hold the advantage here no matter what you may wish..
    Of course we do. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Do the thousands of businesses and millions of jobs that depend on the outcome of these negotiations get an opinion on this?
    Do they get an opinion on Covid ?
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,954
    Seems reasonable.

    https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1326323889417322497?s=20
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    alex_ said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    eek said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Given Trump has to get 103% of all remaining ballots in Pennsylvania....(he's been getting 42%...)

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1326505805424758789?s=20

    If the EU wants a deal they can compromise and agree to our terms or meet us in the middle.
    Why? We don't hold the advantage here no matter what you may wish..
    Of course we do. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Do the thousands of businesses and millions of jobs that depend on the outcome of these negotiations get an opinion on this?
    No, businesses and jobs don't vote.

    Employees and employers do. They got a say on in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2019. Had any one of those 4 gone differently we wouldn't have left the EU. Enough is enough now.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,954
    MikeSmithson said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    I don't want anybody to rise to that one
    They should be discharged from PB immediately.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,040
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326507872683962370?s=20
    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326515433923629056?s=20

    We hold all the...carp?
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    MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    kinabalu said:

    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    At some point they will need to settle BIDEN WINNER but having failed to do it when they should have done - on the call of PA when he passed 270 and the networks decreed him President Elect - they now have no distinct and specific "event" to hang the closure on. Also there are big commissionable sums being traded and so they have little incentive to bring the hammer down until they really have to. It's an interesting situation.
    Ladbrokes have but obviously different.
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    SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 6,248
    noneoftheabove said:

    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    Settling a £600m market? Its not the 1230 at Wincanton.
    Funny you should mention that, as my horse actually won the 1230 at Wincanton very easily counting only legal horses.

    I know Corals, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power and the reast of the lamestream betting industry say my horse fell at the first fence and had to be shot. But they don't decide horse races - the courts do.

    I'll be holding a major press conference at Radisson Blu Pest Control at 3pm to present some startling allegations about what really went down (actual evidence to follow at an unspecified point) - be there.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,079
    Dura_Ace said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    The worst I have seen was the dose a shipmate got in Bahrain. He had rubbered up but this Uzbek sort's batter was so toxic it rotted the skin of his shaft were the protection of the coxglove ended. Amazing and exactly the type of thing I joined up to see.
    Bet it wasn't all glamour though.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Seems reasonable.

    https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1326323889417322497?s=20

    Well if it is Satan, yes Satan that you are fighting . . . 👿⚔
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    BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/SophiaSleigh/status/1326516649802010627

    The party of patriotism? If only a large chunk of the party didn't loathe their own country they might be in with a shout...
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,334
    MikeSmithson said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    I don't want anybody to rise to that one
    Is that a pun, Mike ?
    kle4 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    The worst I have seen was the dose a shipmate got in Bahrain. He had rubbered up but this Uzbek sort's batter was so toxic it rotted the skin of his shaft were the protection of the coxglove ended. Amazing and exactly the type of thing I joined up to see.
    Oh dear god. Though I blame theuniondivvie for opening the door here.
    Is that another one ?
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    BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,987
    kinabalu said:

    Barnesian said:



    Forgot to ask you @Barnesian - hopefully you held your nerve and made a profit on the Biden win?

    (Feel a personal interest since you once said you'd "followed" me into doing it.)
    No. I lost my nerve around 2:30am on the night and (after a bottle of red) and traded out for a loss of about £40. Boo.

    I have a bet with Ladbrokes at 6/1 to Trump will win four out of the following: Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida, Arizona and N Carolina. And a similar bet at 6/1 that he'll win five of them. That should put me ahead.

    I'd have been much better off if I'd gone to bed at 10pm and got up at 8am.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,621
    Nigelb said:

    MikeSmithson said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    I don't want anybody to rise to that one
    Is that a pun, Mike ?
    kle4 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    The worst I have seen was the dose a shipmate got in Bahrain. He had rubbered up but this Uzbek sort's batter was so toxic it rotted the skin of his shaft were the protection of the coxglove ended. Amazing and exactly the type of thing I joined up to see.
    Oh dear god. Though I blame theuniondivvie for opening the door here.
    Is that another one ?
    Not on my part
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 12,976
    kinabalu said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    The worst I have seen was the dose a shipmate got in Bahrain. He had rubbered up but this Uzbek sort's batter was so toxic it rotted the skin of his shaft were the protection of the coxglove ended. Amazing and exactly the type of thing I joined up to see.
    Bet it wasn't all glamour though.
    PB only gets the 3 and 4 star anecdotes due to the delicate middle class civvie sensibilities. 5 star material remains haram.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,558
    Mexicanpete said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326507872683962370?s=20
    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326515433923629056?s=20

    We hold all the...carp?
    To think it could all flounder on this issue.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    alex_ said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    I'm not sure what relevance that has to the UK. And existence of precedent is not evidence that such a thing should be a non-story.
    Man consults wife/fiancée for advice is a total non-story.

    Do you never discuss anything with your significant other?
    Do you need to repeat my earlier post?

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    What you said earlier is nonsense.

    Of course Carrie has no Government role, but her views are not of no consequence. As the fiancée of the Prime Minister of course her views are of consequence just as every Prime Minister's partner is always of "consequence".

    So your assumption is wrong. The rest of your post is wrong.
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    MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    Unless he dies between now and inauguration on Jan 20th or commits a 1st degree felony, Joe Biden will be President.

    So if you can bet against the doubters, do.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,334
    edited November 2020
    To whom has this £20bn contract been awarded ?
    https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2020/W45/738131985
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited November 2020
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Seems reasonable.

    https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1326323889417322497?s=20

    Pure Charlton Heston cod-gravitas.

    American reactionaries are often stuck in this strange register of a 1950s biblical epic ; it's the old Hollywood voice of the old testament.
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    MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    edited November 2020
    Barnesian said:


    kinabalu said:

    Barnesian said:



    Forgot to ask you @Barnesian - hopefully you held your nerve and made a profit on the Biden win?

    (Feel a personal interest since you once said you'd "followed" me into doing it.)
    No. I lost my nerve around 2:30am on the night and (after a bottle of red) and traded out for a loss of about £40. Boo.


    Not to appear too annoying but 2.30 am is when I swooped on Biden's ECVs at 262. I still think he's going to hole out at 306. Which would be tidy.

    p.s. despite praising certain champagnes, like Mike I gave up alcohol. In my case I haven't touched it since February 2019. I don't think drink or sleep are conducive to spread betting. Mind you, nor are everlasting suspended markets which is what happened to Spreadex.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Barnesian said:


    kinabalu said:

    Barnesian said:



    Forgot to ask you @Barnesian - hopefully you held your nerve and made a profit on the Biden win?

    (Feel a personal interest since you once said you'd "followed" me into doing it.)
    No. I lost my nerve around 2:30am on the night and (after a bottle of red) and traded out for a loss of about £40. Boo.

    I have a bet with Ladbrokes at 6/1 to Trump will win four out of the following: Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida, Arizona and N Carolina. And a similar bet at 6/1 that he'll win five of them. That should put me ahead.

    I'd have been much better off if I'd gone to bed at 10pm and got up at 8am.
    So would we all.
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,077
    edited November 2020
    CarlottaVance said:

    twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326507872683962370?s=20
    twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326515433923629056?s=20

    Hopefully this is all just bluster and we get a deal next week.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,011
    Blaming the polls is the latest angle.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1326519025552265216?s=21
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,621
    Dura_Ace said:

    kinabalu said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Trump is like a bad case of the clap.

    I'm idly wondering what a good case of the clap looks like.

    No pics please.
    The worst I have seen was the dose a shipmate got in Bahrain. He had rubbered up but this Uzbek sort's batter was so toxic it rotted the skin of his shaft were the protection of the coxglove ended. Amazing and exactly the type of thing I joined up to see.
    Bet it wasn't all glamour though.
    PB only gets the 3 and 4 star anecdotes due to the delicate middle class civvie sensibilities. 5 star material remains haram.
    That's what being working class or upper class entails? I'm glad to be out of it!
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,621
    williamglenn said:

    Blaming the polls is the latest angle.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1326519025552265216?s=21

    He must know its nonsense as he hedged his bets and said possibly illegal rather than illegal.
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,287
    Philip_Thompson said:

    alex_ said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    I'm not sure what relevance that has to the UK. And existence of precedent is not evidence that such a thing should be a non-story.
    Man consults wife/fiancée for advice is a total non-story.

    Do you never discuss anything with your significant other?
    Do you need to repeat my earlier post?

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    What you said earlier is nonsense.

    Of course Carrie has no Government role, but her views are not of no consequence. As the fiancée of the Prime Minister of course her views are of consequence just as every Prime Minister's partner is always of "consequence".

    So your assumption is wrong. The rest of your post is wrong.
    The question is: who leaked this to Kuenssburg? Assuming it wasn't Boris or Carrie, who in government knows, or was told, that Carrie effectively has a veto on government appointments?
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,040
    Benpointer said:

    Mexicanpete said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326507872683962370?s=20
    https://twitter.com/nickgutteridge/status/1326515433923629056?s=20

    We hold all the...carp?
    To think it could all flounder on this issue.
    Boris and his EU trade deal brinkmanship? He likes to skate on thin ice.
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Barnesian said:


    kinabalu said:

    Barnesian said:



    Forgot to ask you @Barnesian - hopefully you held your nerve and made a profit on the Biden win?

    (Feel a personal interest since you once said you'd "followed" me into doing it.)
    No. I lost my nerve around 2:30am on the night and (after a bottle of red) and traded out for a loss of about £40. Boo.

    I have a bet with Ladbrokes at 6/1 to Trump will win four out of the following: Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida, Arizona and N Carolina. And a similar bet at 6/1 that he'll win five of them. That should put me ahead.

    I'd have been much better off if I'd gone to bed at 10pm and got up at 8am.
    I plan to put a thread up where we can discuss our betting experience.
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    MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    Alistair said:

    Barnesian said:


    kinabalu said:

    Barnesian said:



    Forgot to ask you @Barnesian - hopefully you held your nerve and made a profit on the Biden win?

    (Feel a personal interest since you once said you'd "followed" me into doing it.)
    No. I lost my nerve around 2:30am on the night and (after a bottle of red) and traded out for a loss of about £40. Boo.

    I have a bet with Ladbrokes at 6/1 to Trump will win four out of the following: Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida, Arizona and N Carolina. And a similar bet at 6/1 that he'll win five of them. That should put me ahead.

    I'd have been much better off if I'd gone to bed at 10pm and got up at 8am.
    So would we all.
    No way.

    One of my best ever bets was the one I made with my head against my gut at 2.30 am.

    I have John King to thank and because I wasn't swayed by what was going on in Miami Dade. The clue to Biden's win lay in the suburbs, where he was getting at least a 5% swing from Hillary Clinton. That was robust enough to show me that selling Biden and buying Trump was panic by the markets based on 2016. If the Florida suburbs were swinging to Biden then the Midwest would too.

    Which is also, by the way, why you should be very careful betting against the Democrats on Jan 5th in Georgia. The demographic of the state has changed a lot.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/2020-11-09/georgias-political-shift-a-tale-of-urban-and-suburban-change
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,754
    williamglenn said:

    Blaming the polls is the latest angle.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1326519025552265216?s=21

    Trumpzilla returns to scare small children

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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,954
    WhisperingOracle said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Seems reasonable.

    https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1326323889417322497?s=20

    Pure Charlton Heston cod-gravitas.

    American reactionaries are often stuck in this strange register of a 1950s biblical epic ; it's the old Hollywood voice of the old testament.
    Eddie Marsan is a bit centrist dad for my taste (though a vg actor), but this was quite good.

    https://twitter.com/eddiemarsan/status/1323716007089852417?s=20
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,558
    williamglenn said:

    Blaming the polls is the latest angle.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1326519025552265216?s=21

    Lol: "...possibly illegal..." I look forward to that one coming to court.
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    Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,060
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    On InfoWars, Steve Pieczenik, a former state department assistant secretary, and Tom Clancy co-writer turned QAnon truther, explained how the ‘voter fraud’ had been permitted by an all-seeing Trump because it was in fact an elaborate sting operation against his enemies: “We watermarked every ballot paper with blockchain technology…. We know very well where every one went. All of this was expected.” Or, to quote Q’s unofficial slogan: Trust The Plan.

    https://unherd.com/2020/11/why-qanon-will-always-be-right/

    That's impressive: Tom Clancy died in 2013...
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    SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 6,248
    kinabalu said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    kinabalu said:

    Gaussian said:

    Do Betfair even look at their rules when deciding whether to settle a market, or do they just leave it to punters, i.e. keep it open as long as significant amounts are being matched?

    At some point they will need to settle BIDEN WINNER but having failed to do it when they should have done - on the call of PA when he passed 270 and the networks decreed him President Elect - they now have no distinct and specific "event" to hang the closure on. Also there are big commissionable sums being traded and so they have little incentive to bring the hammer down until they really have to. It's an interesting situation.
    Surely the Electoral College vote now is the event?

    Or if it goes before Supreme Court and they dismiss it that would be an earlier event?
    Could be. But we don't know and neither do Betfair. Or if they do they're not saying.
    I really don't think you've identified a real problem here. The Electoral College is going to meet on 14 December with a number of electors pledged to Trump and another number to Biden.

    Whether you think that the respective numbers will be as currently projected, or whether you're absolutely crackers and think it'll change, the one thing we can agree on is that that will happen. If the market can settle a little early because Trump concedes and/or exhausts legal routes, then no doubt it will.

    If the US descends into anarchy or aliens invade such that the Electoral College can't meet then at some point Betfair will presumably void the market. I'd say it's pretty bloody unlikely though.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited November 2020
    Professor Spector was refreshingly outspoken when I (not me, Freddie Sayers) interviewed him yesterday.

    Had the Government followed data from the ZOE app they would not have gone into a second lockdown, which he believes was unnecessary

    The Government is tilted too much in the direction of caution and has lost a balanced sense of proportion

    He is worried that they will use the new vaccine news as a “carrot” to keep us locked down for the next three months, when he believes it will likely take most of the year to get enough people vaccinated

    He understands people’s concerns about such a new vaccine, and ZOE will be tracking any side effects from vaccinated people via its app

    https://unherd.com/thepost/prof-tim-spector-lockdown-2-was-not-necessary/
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    MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    Stark_Dawning said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    alex_ said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FPT

    alex_ said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    alex_ said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1326498204976877574

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    Actually to be fair to Carrie, she's a former SPAD/Comms person.

    She used to be Head of Comms for the Tory party as well.

    I think she might talking from a professional POV,
    So?
    She wouldn't be the first partner to be consulted on a potential new employee.

    I mean this sort of thing is unheard of in politics, I mean Nancy Reagan got Don Regan fired as Chief of Staff.
    I'm not sure what relevance that has to the UK. And existence of precedent is not evidence that such a thing should be a non-story.
    Man consults wife/fiancée for advice is a total non-story.

    Do you never discuss anything with your significant other?
    Do you need to repeat my earlier post?

    Only two options here, both of which include Laura Kuenssburg is an absolute joke of a journalist.

    Firstly, Either this story is bollox, Carrie Symonds has no Government role and her view are of no consequence, let alone should be being reported breathlessly as pivotal by the BBC's chief political correspondent. This is just gossip peddling.

    Or this story is accurate, Carrie Symonds now has the power to block key Government appointments, in which case THAT should be the story, not who gets appointed to the role.
    What you said earlier is nonsense.

    Of course Carrie has no Government role, but her views are not of no consequence. As the fiancée of the Prime Minister of course her views are of consequence just as every Prime Minister's partner is always of "consequence".

    So your assumption is wrong. The rest of your post is wrong.
    The question is: who leaked this to Kuenssburg? Assuming it wasn't Boris or Carrie, who in government knows, or was told, that Carrie effectively has a veto on government appointments?
    Apparently it's Cummings
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited November 2020
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    On InfoWars, Steve Pieczenik, a former state department assistant secretary, and Tom Clancy co-writer turned QAnon truther, explained how the ‘voter fraud’ had been permitted by an all-seeing Trump because it was in fact an elaborate sting operation against his enemies: “We watermarked every ballot paper with blockchain technology…. We know very well where every one went. All of this was expected.” Or, to quote Q’s unofficial slogan: Trust The Plan.

    https://unherd.com/2020/11/why-qanon-will-always-be-right/

    That's impressive: Tom Clancy died in 2013...
    "Tom Clancy" as a brand is alive and well. New Jack Ryan stuff, new computer games. It is big business.

    Also when this guy was writing Tom Clancy stuff, it was 20 years ago. He seems to have properly gone off the deep end now.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,234
    Barnesian said:



    Most of that £600 million will be trading in and out, and most of that trading will be automated.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,936
    edited November 2020

    Cruz abandoned Trump and now focusing on holding the Georgia Senate races and the Senate https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1326522793803059201?s=20
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,936
    Trump projected to have won Alaska, so now just Arizona and Georgia still to have a final projected winner

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1326521985728442371?s=20
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