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And what ?Nigelb said:.
We are, but that doesn't make it irrelevant.Alanbrooke said:
Oh get a grip.Cyclefree said:
And that’s before the likely economic shock of a No Deal exit from the transition period next January ........AlastairMeeks said:
The more general observation is that life is going to get worse in most tangible ways for many, perhaps most people. How much more general do you want me to be?Stocky said:
Oh sure - got all that - loads of economic losers - furlough has given a false sense of security - I thought you were making a more general observation.AlastairMeeks said:
A lot of them are going to find themselves on the dole, without generous financial support from the government. Many will find that the cuts in their wages they've already taken start to bite much more when they're commuting back to work.Stocky said:
I bloody well hope so. You think otherwise?AlastairMeeks said:
You think the reality of people's lives is going to start improving? Interesting take.BluestBlue said:
This seems an opportune moment to quote myself from the distant reaches of ... last night:Scott_xP said:
'The Mail polling looks like the nadir of this episode - from now on as we come out of lockdown there will be a correction as the red mist lifts and people see the reality of their lives improving.'
Rage is exhausting, and time brings perspective.
All of us will find that pre-lockdown life does not return as it was before because shops, restaurants, pubs and cafes are permanently shut.
The Covid-19 holiday at home will be over and there will be bills to pay. The reality of a lot of people's lives is likely to get substantially worse from here on.
My concern is also with the younger generation. Is university worth it? Lack of job opportunities. Debt on the next generation (and probably generation after that). The reality hasn`t dawned yet for many. I was chatting to a friend yesterday, she asked "when do you think things will be back to normal again?". I think she was expecting me to say "by the Autumn" or something. I said "never".
Brexit is drowned out by the changing landscape and screaming about it just simple ignores the fact that world has gone through a seismic shift and none of the assumptions people made two years ago hold up. Oil price on the floor. China US warming up daily, globalisation in reverse.
The Brexit arguments are all dead, we are walking in to a new world and need to get our heads around it.
Nissan's Sunderland factory, for example; it's going to survive, but what's in question is how much it might grow:
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/13404464
...Under the new working relationship, Nissan could take the lead in Europe on crossover sport-utility vehicles (SUVs), while operating as a “follower” in commercial vans and small city cars, using versions produced by Renault, the sources said.
Nissan’s factory in Sunderland in the United Kingdom is of particular importance, they said.
Renault and Nissan are planning to turn the assembly plant into a hub for SUVs such as Nissan’s Qashqai and Juke, and potentially their Renault counterparts, the Kadjar and Captur. The companies are working on the plans, though it’s not clear when a final decision will be made, the sources said.
Whether Renault vehicles could be built profitably at the plant is unclear, given the uncertainty over tariffs as Britain leaves the European Union, according to one of the sources.
“It should be a pure economic transaction, but it’s also likely a political decision, too,” he said...
Renault is closing 4 of its plants in France - that's the car industry.
Nissan Sunderland remains the most productive plant in Europe.
Renault and Nissan are steadily growing apart and will probably split.
WTO tariffs are 10% which is less than the exchange rate movement over the last 4 years.
You state this as if it is somehow significant, this happens all the time in the automotive sector.
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Depends - are you vegetarian ?AlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
If not - then you have missed out.
Much frequented by Premiership footballers to get their protein hit.0 -
Hey, Remainers: 33 days to save the EU....
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/
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In all seriousness, I have been to Nandos. Its fine for what it is. Better than lots of chain restaurants, but in general I find basically all the major high street chains pretty underwhelming and over-priced for what you are getting.0
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Time to prorogue parliament for 34 days.MarqueeMark said:Hey, Remainers: 33 days to save the EU....
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/1 -
I'd happily unprove it if I could.Nigelb said:
Kudos for that.Alanbrooke said:
If I recall correctly I consistently argued Brexit wouldn't make that much difference and it would be something from left field which would have the biggest effect on the economy...Cyclefree said:
I’m not screaming about it. You are. I am simply pointing out what is very likely going to happen in just over 6 months. It will be the new world - the better world that supporters like you promised.Alanbrooke said:
Oh get a grip.Cyclefree said:
And that’s before the likely economic shock of a No Deal exit from the transition period next January ........AlastairMeeks said:
The more general observation is that life is going to get worse in most tangible ways for many, perhaps most people. How much more general do you want me to be?Stocky said:
Oh sure - got all that - loads of economic losers - furlough has given a false sense of security - I thought you were making a more general observation.AlastairMeeks said:
A lot of them are going to find themselves on the dole, without generous financial support from the government. Many will find that the cuts in their wages they've already taken start to bite much more when they're commuting back to work.Stocky said:
I bloody well hope so. You think otherwise?AlastairMeeks said:
You think the reality of people's lives is going to start improving? Interesting take.BluestBlue said:
This seems an opportune moment to quote myself from the distant reaches of ... last night:Scott_xP said:
'The Mail polling looks like the nadir of this episode - from now on as we come out of lockdown there will be a correction as the red mist lifts and people see the reality of their lives improving.'
Rage is exhausting, and time brings perspective.
All of us will find that pre-lockdown life does not return as it was before because shops, restaurants, pubs and cafes are permanently shut.
The Covid-19 holiday at home will be over and there will be bills to pay. The reality of a lot of people's lives is likely to get substantially worse from here on.
My concern is also with the younger generation. Is university worth it? Lack of job opportunities. Debt on the next generation (and probably generation after that). The reality hasn`t dawned yet for many. I was chatting to a friend yesterday, she asked "when do you think things will be back to normal again?". I think she was expecting me to say "by the Autumn" or something. I said "never".
Brexit is drowned out by the changing landscape and screaming about it just simple ignores the fact that world has gone through a seismic shift and none of the assumptions people made two years ago hold up. Oil price on the floor. China US warming up daily, globalisation in reverse.
The Brexit arguments are all dead, we are walking in to a new world and need to get our heads around it.
If it isn’t it could cause additional economic harm on top of the economic harm caused by this virus. That is worth noting, even if you don’t like this being pointed out.
But did you really have to arrange all this just to prove your point ?1 -
Well the expenses of the appeal will have been pretty chunky, probably another £25-30k to be paid to the other side in addition to similar costs for himself.malcolmg said:
David, will that make any difference to the cost.DavidL said:Somewhat predictably Wings over Scotland has got nowhere with his appeal: https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-opinions/2020csih27.pdf?sfvrsn=0
The main point of interest is that it was the first substantive Inner House appeal to be dealt with remotely.0 -
Mr Cummings would like to thank Mr Barnier forHYUFD said:
Except now the Tories have a majority of 80 as opposed to last year when they had no majority at all there is little chance of further extension passingFrancisUrquhart said:We are soon going to be back the same old, same old no-deal vs extension...
Michel Barnier has written a letter replying to a group of SNP, Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Green, and Alliance Members of Parliament confirming that the EU is open to extending the transition period, although states that an extension must be agreed before 1 July
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/
1. Moving the story on
and
2. Giving the Conservatives the perfect platform on which to reunite.2 -
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He's replying to a letter from them, as the first sentence makes clear. What do you expect him to do, say 'I'm not going to answer you load of powerless plebs'?squareroot2 said:
wtf is he doing that for.?FrancisUrquhart said:We are soon going to be back the same old, same old no-deal vs extension...
Michel Barnier has written a letter replying to a group of SNP, Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Green, and Alliance Members of Parliament confirming that the EU is open to extending the transition period, although states that an extension must be agreed before 1 July
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/0 -
I am unsure of the reliability of testing on asymptomatic people. As an example I deliver food for a 85 year old chap I know from the local bookies. He is a lovely old fella, I speak to him every day. I know for a fact that he has not been out of his flat for 8 weeks as he has been awaiting a operation in hospital. At the weekend a nurse visited and tested him for Covid 19 as part of his pre-op. It came back positive. He has no symptoms and has had no contact with anyone for 8 weeks. His operation is now delayed.FrancisUrquhart said:Christ alive, no wonder Weston-Super-Mare hospital had to close, testing on asymptotic staff came back with 40% have it.
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That'd be a start.Richard_Nabavi said:
He's replying to a letter from them, as the first sentence makes clear. What do you expect him to do, say 'I'm not going to answer you load of powerless plebs'?squareroot2 said:
wtf is he doing that for.?FrancisUrquhart said:We are soon going to be back the same old, same old no-deal vs extension...
Michel Barnier has written a letter replying to a group of SNP, Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Green, and Alliance Members of Parliament confirming that the EU is open to extending the transition period, although states that an extension must be agreed before 1 July
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/0 -
BBC Politics have deleted their tweet of the Maitliss diatribe/monologue.
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Presumably some on the left would like all BBC presenters to wear khaki? Other than that I am not sure what they can find to complain about.Pulpstar said:Both the left and right complain about the BBC. I think that means they're getting it right.
Of course being universally disliked could just mean that you are really really crap.
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I think the sight of the EU saddling all countries with this massive combined debt probably helps too. I think the mindset of a lot of Tory MPs will see that and think we can't get dragged into that scheme.contrarian said:
Mr Cummings would like to thank Mr Barnier forHYUFD said:
Except now the Tories have a majority of 80 as opposed to last year when they had no majority at all there is little chance of further extension passingFrancisUrquhart said:We are soon going to be back the same old, same old no-deal vs extension...
Michel Barnier has written a letter replying to a group of SNP, Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Green, and Alliance Members of Parliament confirming that the EU is open to extending the transition period, although states that an extension must be agreed before 1 July
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/
1. Moving the story on
and
2. Giving the Conservatives the perfect platform on which to reunite.3 -
Because a few MPs are making face-saving statements to their constituents but without daring to challenge the Prime Minister directly?AlastairMeeks said:Conservative Parliamentary party discipline is completely breaking down:
https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1265602498057908225?s=20
It's called politics. They get to signal their virtue, Boris gets to do what he likes. Win-win.0 -
Completely unforced error. If the first sentence had been a question, not a statement "Did Dominic Cummings break the rules? The country thinks so, but the government does not.." it would have been entirely fine. As it is its a major mis-step.FrancisUrquhart said:IMO, they are falling into the trap of CNN / NYT / WP / MSNBC does with Trump. Their hatred of the man leads to them publishing inaccuracies and it gives Trump an out (but in Trump's case he can't help himself but to jump straight back into the shit). It is what Bad Al used to use all the time to get New Labour out of issues.
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Alan Partidge writes fondly of them in his biography so I assume they are of full of fucking awful people who drive Vauxhall Insignias and read the Daily Express.AlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
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the elected government, or an unelected self-regarding weirdo who wears his clothes the wrong way out.BluestBlue said:
This entire episode is a trial of strength (oops, another metaphor!) to determine who wields the real power in Britain - the elected government, or the unelected media. quapropter res iam redit ad triarios.IshmaelZ said:
All these metaphors: regicide, assassination, feeding frenzy, getting their man, taking their scalp. This misses two points. First, news organizations report news, all the time, and "news" is ultimately defined as what their audience considers to be news, cos otherwise they would lose their readership. Blaming the press is like warmist dweebs campaigning against investment in BP while pretending not to realise that their consumption of BP's products keeps BP in business.BluestBlue said:
Indeed. Also Emerson: 'When you strike the king, you must kill him.'MarqueeMark said:
Eventually, the bigger story of the Cummings episode is how fucked the BBC are going to be as a result of the way they have played it.Andy_JS said:
Remember, Beeb: "dig two graves".....
'Cos if you don't...
Secondly, the story is that a conceited creep is more conceited, and much less clever, than appeared at first sight. The big swinging dick bloodshed metaphors lend it a dignity it just does not deserve.
Colourful metaphors are indeed inadequate to express the magnitude of what is at stake.
I would doctor your text and do the ftfy thing, but I am better than that.0 -
No. I've seen a slowing in the downwards slope, which is what I'd expect.Socky said:
I am not aware of any country that has returned to normal, and I am not sure that is in the power of the state to do anyway.Andy_Cooke said:
By "relaxation" do you mean "abandonment of restrictions entirely" or do you mean "targeted partial relaxations in some areas while maximising social distancing"?
However I did expect that relaxation would lead to a visible up-tick in infection rates (and that may be a worthwhile trade-off). The graphs that I have seen however appear to be heading downwards still.
That I find surprising. Do you not?
Stage 1 is the maximum reduction of R. Firstly, we need to slow and reverse the death rate as rapidly as possible, secondly we don't know enough to know what is and isn't the best way of doing that, thirdly we need simple messages and a major change in behaviour. And fourthly, as my first Flight Sergeant said during Initial Officer Training at Cranwell: "When you go in hard, you can successfully relax a bit. Go in soft, and you can never go harder than that."
Stage 2 is just keeping R below 1. The death rate has already dropped a long way, we now know more over what works best and what is less needed (eg the outside activities thing and yes, you knew I was going to say it, the low hanging fruit), the people are more ready to hear nuanced messages, and you can relax a bit and people will still follow it.
Moving to Stage 2 won't give an uptick in infections unless you get it wrong and R goes over 1. Bear in mind that - compared to normal life - the "relaxed" conditions are still extraordinarily restrictive.
I was prepared for a small uptick, but hopeful it would keep trending gently downwards. There was plenty of scope for that to happen as long as people were sensible.
You may have seen that I'm calling for (very controlled) relaxation of pub and restaurant gardens. That's not because I think loads of people are suddenly immune, but because I think there's scope for that while keeping R below 1.1 -
I've been once.AlastairMeeks said:squareroot2 said:
no.AlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
Well that's conclusive.Philip_Thompson said:
Yes.AlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
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Our business has done well - in the next couple of weeks we should bill a further 15% of our annual budget.Stark_Dawning said:
You're just being morbid. In my view the talk of economic Armageddon has been ludicrously over egged. My own employer, for example, has seen a perfectly reasonable turnover during the last couple of months, and they're rapidly getting people back from furlough. And this is not in an industry thought to be system critical to the human race.Stocky said:
Oh sure - got all that - loads of economic losers - furlough has given a false sense of security - I thought you were making a more general observation.AlastairMeeks said:
A lot of them are going to find themselves on the dole, without generous financial support from the government. Many will find that the cuts in their wages they've already taken start to bite much more when they're commuting back to work.Stocky said:
I bloody well hope so. You think otherwise?AlastairMeeks said:
You think the reality of people's lives is going to start improving? Interesting take.BluestBlue said:
This seems an opportune moment to quote myself from the distant reaches of ... last night:Scott_xP said:
'The Mail polling looks like the nadir of this episode - from now on as we come out of lockdown there will be a correction as the red mist lifts and people see the reality of their lives improving.'
Rage is exhausting, and time brings perspective.
All of us will find that pre-lockdown life does not return as it was before because shops, restaurants, pubs and cafes are permanently shut.
The Covid-19 holiday at home will be over and there will be bills to pay. The reality of a lot of people's lives is likely to get substantially worse from here on.
My concern is also with the younger generation. Is university worth it? Lack of job opportunities. Debt on the next generation (and probably generation after that). The reality hasn`t dawned yet for many. I was chatting to a friend yesterday, she asked "when do you think things will be back to normal again?". I think she was expecting me to say "by the Autumn" or something. I said "never".0 -
It is worth looking at the new cases data for Iran at https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/blob/master/csse_covid_19_data/csse_covid_19_time_series/time_series_covid19_confirmed_global.csv.Socky said:
I am not aware of any country that has returned to normal, and I am not sure that is in the power of the state to do anyway.Andy_Cooke said:
By "relaxation" do you mean "abandonment of restrictions entirely" or do you mean "targeted partial relaxations in some areas while maximising social distancing"?
However I did expect that relaxation would lead to a visible up-tick in infection rates (and that may be a worthwhile trade-off). The graphs that I have seen however appear to be heading downwards still.
That I find surprising. Do you not?
There was a peak in Iran at day 40 which sharply declined by day 70. Restrictions were relaxed, new cases rocketed and by day 90 there was a second slightly smaller peak. Now a week later cases are going down again. (Day 1 is 21/2/2020.) Deaths have NOT shown a second peak and have been continuously declining. Abandonment of restrictions does not mean the end of social distancing as this is often a personal choice. Conclusions about herd immunity are speculation as we are still too early in the epidemic (IMO) to draw such conclusions. My guess is that Iran will have herd immunity by 2021. The UK could be 50-100% of the way to herd immunity, but it will take ages before we know this.0 -
I'm pretty sure that the appointee of the elected government is covered by their mandate - how else would any appointee have the authority to do anything at all, under any government? Otherwise, good point.IshmaelZ said:
the elected government, or an unelected self-regarding weirdo who wears his clothes the wrong way out.BluestBlue said:
This entire episode is a trial of strength (oops, another metaphor!) to determine who wields the real power in Britain - the elected government, or the unelected media. quapropter res iam redit ad triarios.IshmaelZ said:
All these metaphors: regicide, assassination, feeding frenzy, getting their man, taking their scalp. This misses two points. First, news organizations report news, all the time, and "news" is ultimately defined as what their audience considers to be news, cos otherwise they would lose their readership. Blaming the press is like warmist dweebs campaigning against investment in BP while pretending not to realise that their consumption of BP's products keeps BP in business.BluestBlue said:
Indeed. Also Emerson: 'When you strike the king, you must kill him.'MarqueeMark said:
Eventually, the bigger story of the Cummings episode is how fucked the BBC are going to be as a result of the way they have played it.Andy_JS said:
Remember, Beeb: "dig two graves".....
'Cos if you don't...
Secondly, the story is that a conceited creep is more conceited, and much less clever, than appeared at first sight. The big swinging dick bloodshed metaphors lend it a dignity it just does not deserve.
Colourful metaphors are indeed inadequate to express the magnitude of what is at stake.
I would doctor your text and do the ftfy thing, but I am better than that.0 -
They wrote to him saying “we support an extension would you consider it” and he replied “yes”.squareroot2 said:
wtf is he doing that for.?FrancisUrquhart said:We are soon going to be back the same old, same old no-deal vs extension...
Michel Barnier has written a letter replying to a group of SNP, Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Green, and Alliance Members of Parliament confirming that the EU is open to extending the transition period, although states that an extension must be agreed before 1 July
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/
Now in my view it was inappropriate for them to write and inappropriate for him to reply. Supranational organisations should only deal with governments.0 -
Mr. Flashman (deceased), I'm sure that'll work well...
The Barnier story is slightly weird. There's very little chance of it going ahead.
But... it depends how pissed off Conservative backbenchers are.
"Axe Cummings or we give a two year extension" could be the threat. If they're angry enough.0 -
Will he withdraw his own whip? The message we get from this government whip is that the direction of the ogvernment is open to interpretation. This strikes at the heart of what it means to govern and to be governed.BluestBlue said:
Because a few MPs are making face-saving statements to their constituents but without daring to challenge the Prime Minister directly?AlastairMeeks said:Conservative Parliamentary party discipline is completely breaking down:
https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1265602498057908225?s=20
It's called politics. They get to signal their virtue, Boris gets to do what he likes. Win-win.
Remember the podium said:
"Stay at home,
Protect the NHS,
Save lives".
It didn't say:
"Stay at home; if you can't make an excuse not too,
Protect the NHS; if you have the time,
Save lives; unless they are strangers in which case put them at risk by crossing the entire country when infected or driving when you think you're blind".
Why ever listen to the government again on any subject?0 -
New thread.0
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Listen to them or don't - if people wish to cut off their nose to spite their face, well, it's a free country.anotherex_tory said:
Will he withdraw his own whip? The message we get from this government whip is that the direction of the ogvernment is open to interpretation. This strikes at the heart of what it means to govern and to be governed.BluestBlue said:
Because a few MPs are making face-saving statements to their constituents but without daring to challenge the Prime Minister directly?AlastairMeeks said:Conservative Parliamentary party discipline is completely breaking down:
https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1265602498057908225?s=20
It's called politics. They get to signal their virtue, Boris gets to do what he likes. Win-win.
Remember the podium said:
"Stay at home,
Protect the NHS,
Save lives".
It didn't say:
"Stay at home; if you can't make an excuse not too,
Protect the NHS; if you have the time,
Save lives; unless they are strangers in which case put them at risk by crossing the entire country when infected or driving when you think you're blind".
Why ever listen to the government again on any subject?0 -
Laura Kuensberg gets all sorts of abuse from the left.Socky said:
Presumably some on the left would like all BBC presenters to wear khaki? Other than that I am not sure what they can find to complain about.Pulpstar said:Both the left and right complain about the BBC. I think that means they're getting it right.
Of course being universally disliked could just mean that you are really really crap.0 -
NoAlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
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Hello, Malky. I notice that only a percentage figure for care home deaths/all deaths in Scotland is offered on PB. Not a more meaningful comparison such as no of care home deaths per 1M population (or of population over 70, for instance). It may well be that the Scottish death rate is lower than in England except for care homes - or perhaps even for them as well. THere's a fair bit of space for that as the Travelling Tabby website suggests overall to date 424 dead/million in Scotland, 589/m for England (hasn't had the last week's data from NRS so far as I can see butt hat won't make much difference). To be honest, it's not a huge difference, and the differences in population distribution make it hard to compare the two meaningfully. But a lot of Scotland's population is as urbanised as anything outside London.malcolmg said:
If it was in Scotland you can bet it would. You notice she has yet to produce anything on English care homes, this is just her hatred for anything SNP/Scottish.Philip_Thompson said:
I've not read it but don't judge a sector by a bad apple. People literally go into care to care for others, it's a noble motive.CarlottaVance said:
This report on the Skye home makes depressing reading:Philip_Thompson said:
There are exceptions in any industry but I have to believe that anyone who goes into care does so because they care about it. Like teaching, nursing etcCarlottaVance said:
Probably - but there have been several examples of absentee owners having an atrocious outbreak - Skye and Man spring to mind. In the latter one home accounted for 20 of the islands 24 cases. The Manx government shut it down. The Sandbank resident owners were miffed.Philip_Thompson said:
Yes by and large.CarlottaVance said:
Are you making the case that Care Homes are honest upstanding private businesses?Theuniondivvie said:
Are you making the case for more government interference in the running of honest, upstanding private businesses? Well done!TGOHF666 said:
Oversight of care homes is a devolved matter malc.malcolmg said:
Usual Tory tax dodgers maximising profits at expense of people's granny, lies right at Boris's door.Theuniondivvie said:
They seem to be largely blaming the company that runs it on my reading. It sounds hellish for residents and staff.CarlottaVance said:Scottish Care Homes COVID has made the NYT - with Johnson getting the blame.....
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/world/europe/coronavirus-uk-nursing-homes.html
'Soon after a nationwide lockdown went into effect in March, a new deputy manager arrived from Kent, in southeastern England. HC-One has said she isolated before starting work. But that was before she made the 650-mile journey to the island, the employees and HC-One said. She eventually became sick and stopped working, the company said.
Feeling unprotected by management, employees cleaned the home obsessively and enforced their own distancing rules. When residents were startled, as they often were, aides held their hands and stroked them. Sometimes employees broke down crying.
“People were petrified,” one of the employees said.
For HC-One, the nursing home business has been lucrative, as the company paid more than 50 million pounds, or nearly $61 million, in dividends from 2017 to 2019.'
'...HC-One warned that its “ability to continue as a going concern” was in jeopardy.
But nursing home finances are difficult to trace. The HC-One group includes 62 companies, 19 of them registered offshore, and its parent company is based in the Cayman Islands.
“It’s money before care all the time,” Ms. Harris said. “The staff they did have worked so hard, but they’ve been let down.”'
Regarding absentee owners that can happen in any sector too. So long as they have passionate and good managers that should be fine. It's the managers who matter more most likely than the owners, besides owner/managers.
https://commonweal.scot/policy-library/predictable-crisis
A bad school or bad teachers wouldn't make you condemn the entire education sector would it?0 -
Ditto. Surprised I didn't see you there.Nigelb said:
I've been once.AlastairMeeks said:squareroot2 said:
no.AlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
Well that's conclusive.Philip_Thompson said:
Yes.AlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
No.0 -
Alan is more a Daily Mail, Lynx deodorant and Lexus kind of guy.Dura_Ace said:
Alan Partidge writes fondly of them in his biography so I assume they are of full of fucking awful people who drive Vauxhall Insignias and read the Daily Express.AlastairMeeks said:I've never been in a Nando's. Have I missed out?
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We've left!MarqueeMark said:Hey, Remainers: 33 days to save the EU....
https://order-order.com/2020/05/27/barnier-begs-opposition-parties-for-extension/0 -
Mail Online is saying Saturday 4 July for pub reopening.
Where is it getting this date from?0 -
Highly instructive and not just from the point of view of assessing the Cummings fiasco.algarkirk said:A masterly dissection of Mr Cummings. Worth watching. No paywall
https://www.ft.com/video/e82b5a00-3ad5-4d2c-9703-ff14942aa5b1
I had hitherto felt the question of the legality of his actions was unclear and best regarded as a grey area. The legal beagle was pretty clear and firm however that there were grounds for a charge (under 'Regulation 6') at least in respect of the Castle episode.
I guess it remains an open possibilty that he will be charged one day although if he is resigned, I don't suppose the plod would bother.0 -
"Brexit educates the senses, calls into disrepute the political will, makes imperfect the unwritten constitution, brings Tories into such swift and close collision in critical moments that Leaver measures Remainer."BluestBlue said:
Indeed. Also Emerson: 'When you strike the king, you must kill him.'MarqueeMark said:
Eventually, the bigger story of the Cummings episode is how fucked the BBC are going to be as a result of the way they have played it.Andy_JS said:
Remember, Beeb: "dig two graves".....0 -
If they were crap they'd be happy to send government ministers on.Socky said:
Presumably some on the left would like all BBC presenters to wear khaki? Other than that I am not sure what they can find to complain about.Pulpstar said:Both the left and right complain about the BBC. I think that means they're getting it right.
Of course being universally disliked could just mean that you are really really crap.0
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