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Am I required to fulfil my normal PB role at this wedding? (i.e. to come along and apologise for all the 80s music references that have been sneaked in to a thread/speech).TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.0 -
Headline in today's Standard a bad one for EdM. Forget it exactly but something along the lines of hitting rich people with "ghost" properties with penal taxes
Is there nothing the State can't fix with a tax?0 -
Hang fire on that survation poll
The last survation poll had Lab on a 1% lead.
Was in March, post budget.0 -
Yes - looks like a pair....of ones!Easterross said:Is this another poll tonight?
MirrorJames @MirrorJames
A year to the election and Labour's lead tumbles to 1 point . Ed M's party 34% (-2), Cons 33% (+5) - Survation for @DailyMirror
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The correct changes on the survation poll is Lab minus 1 and con minus 10
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Eh ....... are you sure?Pulpstar said:
Not confusing you with PtP...peter_from_putney said:
I fear you are confusing me with another similarly-named but all too infrequent poster ..... so that's the usual £1 fine you owe the PB social fund.Pulpstar said:
Backing anyone in Newark, PtP ?peter_from_putney said:Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspect which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.
@Shadsy How is the Newark book looking, who is best and worst results ? Anyone lumping on the Lib Dems
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Yes, I know you are a punter too - Oh Bloody hell sorry I meant "Backing anyone in Newark, PfP ?"peter_from_putney said:
Eh ....... are you sure?Pulpstar said:
Not confusing you with PtP...peter_from_putney said:
I fear you are confusing me with another similarly-named but all too infrequent poster ..... so that's the usual £1 fine you owe the PB social fund.Pulpstar said:
Backing anyone in Newark, PtP ?peter_from_putney said:Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspect which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.
@Shadsy How is the Newark book looking, who is best and worst results ? Anyone lumping on the Lib Dems ?!
Mea Culpa.
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They did, Populus 23-24 April. Although with the two leads of 1 today I reckon the average Labour lead is down to about two and a half, depending on how far back you go.Pulpstar said:Could the bloody Tories just get one f*cking level poll with Labour please. Sick of these off by 1s.
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OGH tweeted about some fancy polling overnight so guess tomorrow we will all be very busy analysing everything. Off to bed. Goodnight all.0
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Broken, sleazy Labour on the slide.0
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An independent Scotland is going to be far more left wing and far more dominated by Labour than a UK under a weak government of the Eds. And it still will be when the Eds are no more than a joke to political anoraks.Easterross said:Evening colleagues, just a thought, if Ed did make that remark comparing himself to David Cameron, he clearly cheated at his O'level English because his grammar is shockingly bad.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect there is a little unit deep in the recesses of Nos 10 and 11 Downing Street working on models for Scotland and rUK post independence and that it is having regular chats with the senior civil servants in Edinburgh and Dover House.
I am a fan of Jacob Rees-Mogg but he is wrong on a Tory-UKIP pact. I like many of the PB Kippers but sorry chaps we need to grind you into the ground like an overworked dockside hooker, if you will forgive the totally non-PC pun. You seem happy to welcome an Ed+Ed government as a worthwhile price of getting some Euro sceptic government at some time in the next century. I am not cash rich enough to contemplate that and would rather live in an Independent Scotland than a UK ruined once more by the Labour Party.
Also to be blunt no political party has been more ground into the ground than the Scottish Conservatives.
You really need to sort out your own problems instead of giving the wrong advice to the English Conservatives.
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All the people at this wedding know me, so they would be disappointed if there weren't any pop music references.corporeal said:
Am I required to fulfil my normal PB role at this wedding? (i.e. to come along and apologise for all the 80s music references that have been sneaked in to a thread/speech).TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.
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There was a Survation poll dated 4 April that had a Lab lead of 7TheScreamingEagles said:The correct changes on the survation poll is Lab minus 1 and con minus 1
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Ah, thanks.JohnLilburne said:
There was a Survation poll dated 4 April that had a Lab lead of 7TheScreamingEagles said:The correct changes on the survation poll is Lab minus 1 and con minus 1
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Pretty feeble excuses there, Mr. Eagles, but I suppose as long as we can depend on your word we have to accept them I am certainly looking forward to playing against/with you, or possibly both, later on this summer.TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.
Meanwhile I wonder of we can scare up some Scottish interest. Are you there MalcomG? Ah'm calling ye! Your mither was a Tory! Will you no come on and fight?
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I agree she would not be right in this case -just using her as an example. Shame they don't appear to have someone similar in the wings. Having a female candidate as his right arm (next to Nigel, the newly selected Newark candidate will get the most publicity) would not have done Farage any harm in these last couple of weeks either.JohnLilburne said:
She's from Surrey though - leader of UKIP on Waverley borough council. Eastleigh isn't too far away, but I don't know how well she'd go down in Newark.Luckyguy1983 said:Roger Helmer strikes me as someone who having rejected political correctness and defined himself against it, now just enjoys shocking people, being insensitive, pedantic and facetious. There is much to reject about political correctness, but kindness and humanity go a long way to bridging the gap with people. UKIP must hope there are enough secret P.C. haters out there to get him elected, because I certainly don't think he has floating voter appeal like Diane James has.
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One can only hope that the complacents on this site(inc Nick Palmer) will remain as complacent as they have been.. if crossover occurs it will be all the more enjoyable(of course if it doesn't , the obverse is true)
I think crossover is imminent.. the good economic news has to have an effect soon.... surely...0 -
The last Survation poll was 4th April. Con 29%, Lab 36%TheScreamingEagles said:Hang fire on that survation poll
The last survation poll had Lab on a 1% lead.
Was in March, post budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2014
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How do we get to watch these Diplomacy games ?HurstLlama said:
Pretty feeble excuses there, Mr. Eagles, but I suppose as long as we can depend on your word we have to accept them I am certainly looking forward to playing against/with you, or possibly both, later on this summer.TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.
Meanwhile I wonder of we can scare up some Scottish interest. Are you there MalcomG? Ah'm calling ye! Your mither was a Tory! Will you no come on and fight?
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http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Maria-Miller-Tables-FINAL1.pdfJohnLilburne said:
There was a Survation poll dated 4 April that had a Lab lead of 7TheScreamingEagles said:The correct changes on the survation poll is Lab minus 1 and con minus 1
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FPT - Another_Richard, a report on my Mother and I's visit to Page Hall Road.
So we went back, my mother was back to saying how disgusting the Roma are, begging and being an annoyance and doing bad things in the street.
When we got back into the car, I said, she was being far too harsh on the Roma, and they were a persecuted race, that Hitler had tried to wipe them out.
Her response "I can understand why"*
*Not her exact words, this conversation was in Urdu.0 -
MalcolmG was Tory. He voted for Thatcher either once or three times according to his various accounts of his political history.HurstLlama said:
Pretty feeble excuses there, Mr. Eagles, but I suppose as long as we can depend on your word we have to accept them I am certainly looking forward to playing against/with you, or possibly both layer on this summer.TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.
Meanwhile I wonder of we can scare up some Scottish interest. Are you there MalcomG? Ah'm calling ye! Your mother was a Tory! Will you no come on and fight?
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We can but hope.another_richard said:
You think we're going to have the equivalent of the Lawson boom ?MonikerDiCanio said:
May 1986 LAB 39% CON 28% LIB/SDP 30%Tykejohnno said:Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 50 secs
Just one year to go til polling day 2015 tmrw, and our YouGov tonight has Labour on just a 1 point lead: LAB 35%, CON 34%, UKIP 14%, LD 9%
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This is one of the situations where the idea is a great one. Given the housing shortage in London, it's outrageous that many are left empty. Residential should be used for people to live in, not as an investment class.TOPPING said:Headline in today's Standard a bad one for EdM. Forget it exactly but something along the lines of hitting rich people with "ghost" properties with penal taxes
Is there nothing the State can't fix with a tax?0 -
Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.0
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http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play_details.php?game_id=77399another_richard said:
How do we get to watch these Diplomacy games ?HurstLlama said:
Pretty feeble excuses there, Mr. Eagles, but I suppose as long as we can depend on your word we have to accept them I am certainly looking forward to playing against/with you, or possibly both, later on this summer.TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.
Meanwhile I wonder of we can scare up some Scottish interest. Are you there MalcomG? Ah'm calling ye! Your mither was a Tory! Will you no come on and fight?
http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play.php?game_id=79131
Although you need to register for an account to see the order history of the games.0 -
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
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Doesn't US resident David Miliband own a multi-million pound London ghost mansion?Socrates said:
This is one of the situations where the idea is a great one. Given the housing shortage in London, it's outrageous that many are left empty. Residential should be used for people to live in, not as an investment class.TOPPING said:Headline in today's Standard a bad one for EdM. Forget it exactly but something along the lines of hitting rich people with "ghost" properties with penal taxes
Is there nothing the State can't fix with a tax?
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Grim polling for Labour, not least because there's a pattern to this. So many people dabble in the realm of property leasing these days, even if it's their first flat as they save for a deposit on a house. The last thing they want is to be forced to lease it at a state-determined value for a minimum of three years. Foolish by Miliband. But we did warn him.0
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Pulpstar - No bets for me in Newark by-election - I did have a small punt on Farage standing but lost my money a few hours later when he chickened out.0
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That Survation is missing from the UKPR listing.anotherDave said:
The last Survation poll was 4th April. Con 29%, Lab 36%TheScreamingEagles said:Hang fire on that survation poll
The last survation poll had Lab on a 1% lead.
Was in March, post budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2014
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2
Surprising - usually the UKPR listing is much more accurate than the Wikipedia listing. Wikipedia listing has numerous errors.
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What I can't understand is how has Labour gone from 43% in 2012 to 35% in 2014 when 2010 Lib-Dems are solid and they never secured many 2010 Conservative's in the first place?
Has there been a mass suicide pact of old Trots that we've not been told about? Have thousands of Labour voters gone the same way as the missing Malaysia Airline?
I don't understand what's happened...0 -
Mr. Richard, Go to PlayDiplomacy.com. There are two current PB games going on at the moment: The fun one PB 2014 Mk2 and the vicious one, PB Death Match 2014. The latter of which is now in furball stage, which is something to behold (not often you get seven countries attacking each other in a glorious matrix of aggression).another_richard said:
How do we get to watch these Diplomacy games ?HurstLlama said:
Pretty feeble excuses there, Mr. Eagles, but I suppose as long as we can depend on your word we have to accept them I am certainly looking forward to playing against/with you, or possibly both, later on this summer.TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.
Meanwhile I wonder of we can scare up some Scottish interest. Are you there MalcomG? Ah'm calling ye! Your mither was a Tory! Will you no come on and fight?
However, Diplomacy is rather worse as a spectator sport than sex. If you want to enjoy it you really have to do it. The rules are very simple. can be learned in half an hour, actually playing the game is all about negotiation and in that aspect there are no rules.0 -
Con available at 84-1 for most seats in Euros.
Obviously a long shot but if they really are now only 1% behind (or close to that) for GE then they could still just have a chance - and over 2 weeks to go.0 -
All the swing voters moved to UKIP.GIN1138 said:Whatt I can't understand is how has Labour gone from 43% in 2012 to 35% in 2014 when 2010 Lib-Dems are solid and they never secured many 2010 Conservative's in the first place?
Has there been a mass suicide pact of old Trots that we've not been told about? Have thousands of Labour voters gone the same way as the missing Malaysia Airline?
I don't understand what's happened...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Graphical_summary
http://www.markpack.org.uk/40907/labour-are-the-big-losers-from-ukips-surge/
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You'd think so, but I doubt it will have all that much impact, notwithstanding the occasional good poll for the Tories. In ordinary times it seems like it should shore up the Tory vote to 2010 levels or a few points above if they're lucky, but the party still seems so beset by internal troubles that if they ever got into a good position they'd be too busy shooting their own foot while digging their own grave to seize it.SquareRoot said:the good economic news has to have an effect soon.... surely...
Further to that it has taken so long for things to pretty much umambiguously start looking up (plenty of naysayers among economists, and they're probably right, but then again apparently no-one in authority saw a huge crash coming, so even if another period of pain is coming, it's probably inevitable so I won;t worry about it) that anyone on the fence or inclined to dislike the Tories (which is a majority of the electorate) will probably see any economic recovery as bound to happen eventually whoever was in power, in which case punishing the Tory cutters and LD betrayers can be done without fear.
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#16 When the housing crisis in London first started i.e. about ten years before it started being reported, a very large number of people the London councils wanted least were dumped in the cheaper coastal towns.
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The danger for Mr Miliband comes if the recent Tory mini-surge continues. Asked who they would put in power now, 34% say Labour, down two points on last month, while the Tories are up five points to 33%.
Ukip are on 18% and the Lib Dems on 8%, both also down two points.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed-miliband-become-new-prime-3505658#ixzz30yQa1dKP
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That Wiki graph hasn't been updated for almost a month - the next update is going to show it getting even tighter between Lab and Con.anotherDave said:
All the swing voters moved to UKIP.GIN1138 said:Whatt I can't understand is how has Labour gone from 43% in 2012 to 35% in 2014 when 2010 Lib-Dems are solid and they never secured many 2010 Conservative's in the first place?
Has there been a mass suicide pact of old Trots that we've not been told about? Have thousands of Labour voters gone the same way as the missing Malaysia Airline?
I don't understand what's happened...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Graphical_summary
http://www.markpack.org.uk/40907/labour-are-the-big-losers-from-ukips-surge/
Lab trend line solidly downwards.
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The wikipedia page, has a 'talk' page. If you know of any omissions or mistakes, let them know.MikeL said:
That Survation is missing from the UKPR listing.anotherDave said:
The last Survation poll was 4th April. Con 29%, Lab 36%TheScreamingEagles said:Hang fire on that survation poll
The last survation poll had Lab on a 1% lead.
Was in March, post budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2014
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2
Surprising - usually the UKPR listing is much more accurate than the Wikipedia listing. Wikipedia listing has numerous errors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
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It's a good statement, and places the responsibility for any dissatisfaction on the shoulders of those who are ultimately to blame (even if only for allowing the political classes they despise become what they are), the public themselves. We get the governments we deserve.isam said:
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 6m
"If the British electorate always vote for what they've always voted for, they'll always get what they've always had"
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Thanks.anotherDave said:
All the swing voters moved to UKIP.GIN1138 said:Whatt I can't understand is how has Labour gone from 43% in 2012 to 35% in 2014 when 2010 Lib-Dems are solid and they never secured many 2010 Conservative's in the first place?
Has there been a mass suicide pact of old Trots that we've not been told about? Have thousands of Labour voters gone the same way as the missing Malaysia Airline?
I don't understand what's happened...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Graphical_summary
http://www.markpack.org.uk/40907/labour-are-the-big-losers-from-ukips-surge/
So, if "swing-voters" decide voting UKIP under a FPTP general election is pointless and decide to move to the next best thing (Conservative) Labour's stuffed even with 2010 Lib-Dems?
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What do I do - start a new topic?anotherDave said:
The wikipedia page, has a 'talk' page. If you know of any omissions or mistakes, let them know.MikeL said:
That Survation is missing from the UKPR listing.anotherDave said:
The last Survation poll was 4th April. Con 29%, Lab 36%TheScreamingEagles said:Hang fire on that survation poll
The last survation poll had Lab on a 1% lead.
Was in March, post budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2014
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2
Surprising - usually the UKPR listing is much more accurate than the Wikipedia listing. Wikipedia listing has numerous errors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
Whoever compiles it needs to just cross-check to UKPR - UKPR is far more accurate - though not 100% perfect as tonight illustrates.
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I've noticed whenever I am about to guest edit the side, the polls start to narrow.
It's almost like the fates want me to do regular Ed is crap threads.0 -
Is that so? Then I suppose I had better tweak my challenge. I'll come up with something for the morning.MonikerDiCanio said:
MalcolmG was Tory. He voted for Thatcher either once or three times according to his various accounts of his political history.HurstLlama said:
Pretty feeble excuses there, Mr. Eagles, but I suppose as long as we can depend on your word we have to accept them I am certainly looking forward to playing against/with you, or possibly both layer on this summer.TheScreamingEagles said:
I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
Edit: If I'm not properly focussed on the game, then I'll be so bad, you'll think I'm a Carthaginian with the crapness of my strategy and tactics.
Meanwhile I wonder of we can scare up some Scottish interest. Are you there MalcomG? Ah'm calling ye! Your mother was a Tory! Will you no come on and fight?
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This could be a tremendous play to lay with Betfair on the night if Iceland were somewhere in the running and their odds were to fall to say around 20/1or 30/1.TheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
Unfortunately for you TSE you'll be otherwise engaged then at your wedding function.0 -
The wedding is on the 17th, not this weekend.peter_from_putney said:
This could be a tremendous play to lay with Betfair on the night if Iceland were somewhere in the running and their odds were to fall to say around 20/1or 30/1.TheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
Unfortunately for you TSE you'll be otherwise engaged then at your wedding function.0 -
Ah, but just think of the balance you bring to the site.TheScreamingEagles said:I've noticed whenever I am about to guest edit the side, the polls start to narrow.
It's almost like the fates want me to do regular Ed is crap threads.0 -
Survation asked an EU Parliament question too:
Con 24%, Lab 28%, LD 7% , UKIP 31%0 -
Link please (not that I doubt you, but I need a link to send to OGH)anotherDave said:Survation asked an EU Parliament question too:
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Not long now till crossover... ;-)0
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It's in the Mirror article. In one of the info boxes.TheScreamingEagles said:
Link please (not that I doubt you, but I need a link to send to OGH)anotherDave said:Survation asked an EU Parliament question too:
Con 24%, Lab 28%, LD 7% , UKIP 31%
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed-miliband-become-new-prime-35056580 -
Thanks.anotherDave said:
It's in the Mirror article. In one of the info boxes.TheScreamingEagles said:
Link please (not that I doubt you, but I need a link to send to OGH)anotherDave said:Survation asked an EU Parliament question too:
Con 24%, Lab 28%, LD 7% , UKIP 31%
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed-miliband-become-new-prime-35056580 -
Third place for Labour in the EU elections begins to loom.anotherDave said:Survation asked an EU Parliament question too:
Con 24%, Lab 28%, LD 7% , UKIP 31%
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Where are my standards?
Two polls with shrinking Labour leads and I've not said
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Rod - didn't you forecast early May for crossover time?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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Scottish Tories? Ground into the glaur [Anglice, mud]? Can you be serious? They aren't doing too badly considering they have the Thatcherite-Unionist albatross around their necks (that is a factual observation on my part) - they can't do much worse and will probably do a bit better in the event of independence, i.e. somewhere between EWNI Tories and LDs.another_richard said:
An independent Scotland is going to be far more left wing and far more dominated by Labour than a UK under a weak government of the Eds. And it still will be when the Eds are no more than a joke to political anoraks.Easterross said:Evening colleagues, just a thought, if Ed did make that remark comparing himself to David Cameron, he clearly cheated at his O'level English because his grammar is shockingly bad.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect there is a little unit deep in the recesses of Nos 10 and 11 Downing Street working on models for Scotland and rUK post independence and that it is having regular chats with the senior civil servants in Edinburgh and Dover House.
I am a fan of Jacob Rees-Mogg but he is wrong on a Tory-UKIP pact. I like many of the PB Kippers but sorry chaps we need to grind you into the ground like an overworked dockside hooker, if you will forgive the totally non-PC pun. You seem happy to welcome an Ed+Ed government as a worthwhile price of getting some Euro sceptic government at some time in the next century. I am not cash rich enough to contemplate that and would rather live in an Independent Scotland than a UK ruined once more by the Labour Party.
Also to be blunt no political party has been more ground into the ground than the Scottish Conservatives.
You really need to sort out your own problems instead of giving the wrong advice to the English Conservatives.
It's the Trots that really have caught it - and the LDs next in line.
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I said 'by May'peter_from_putney said:
Rod - didn't you forecast early May for crossover time?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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bwin are 300sTheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
They let me have £2.61
Tonight I tipped a 9/1 First Goalscorer, 11/4 anytime, 20/1 brace & 100/1 Hat trick.. all copped, didn't have a penny on
I blame PB0 -
Just did an Opinium poll for the Euros - they asked me which region I would be voting in and then gave me a prompt in alphabetical order of the parties standing in this area - but they didn't create a mock-up of the ballot paper with the party slogans and symbols.
If the results see the light of day it will be interesting to see whether "An Independence from Europe" registers to a significant extent.0 -
Cheers, this has all the hallmarks of a very decent trading bet.isam said:
bwin are 300sTheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
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1. The BBC version of reality isn't true.GIN1138 said:What I can't understand is how has Labour gone from 43% in 2012 to 35% in 2014 when 2010 Lib-Dems are solid and they never secured many 2010 Conservative's in the first place?
Has there been a mass suicide pact of old Trots that we've not been told about? Have thousands of Labour voters gone the same way as the missing Malaysia Airline?
I don't understand what's happened...
2. The credit bubble acted as a sedative.
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Scroll down to the last topic. Edit it. Scroll to the bottom, start a new heading, say your piece. then to sign off (i don't know why) add ~~~~ at the end.MikeL said:
What do I do - start a new topic?anotherDave said:
The wikipedia page, has a 'talk' page. If you know of any omissions or mistakes, let them know.MikeL said:
That Survation is missing from the UKPR listing.anotherDave said:
The last Survation poll was 4th April. Con 29%, Lab 36%TheScreamingEagles said:Hang fire on that survation poll
The last survation poll had Lab on a 1% lead.
Was in March, post budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2014
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2
Surprising - usually the UKPR listing is much more accurate than the Wikipedia listing. Wikipedia listing has numerous errors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
under the editing box there are 'preview' and 'save' buttons.
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Just noticed that in the the North West An Independence from Europe are running an all female list for the Euros led by the former chair of the British Womens Racing Driver's club Helen Bashford.
Less pleasingly there are at least a couple of former BNP members elsewhere on their lists.0 -
!!!!!!!!!!!MonikerDiCanio said:
Third place for Labour in the EU elections begins to loom.anotherDave said:Survation asked an EU Parliament question too:
Con 24%, Lab 28%, LD 7% , UKIP 31%
I hope not. I bet on the ukip-lab-con trifecta.
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Changes since the Survation Euros poll at the start of April
Con plus 3, Lab Minus 6, LD Minus 2, UKIP plus 4
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UKIP needs a bigger font.TheScreamingEagles said:Changes since the Survation Euros poll at the start of April
Con plus 3, Lab Minus 6, LD Minus 2, UKIP plus 4
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Skybet "Enhanced Win Only"TheScreamingEagles said:
Cheers, this has all the hallmarks of a very decent trading bet.isam said:
bwin are 300sTheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
500/1!!
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/enhanced-win-only0 -
Bloody Hell!isam said:
Skybet "Enhanced Win Only"TheScreamingEagles said:
Cheers, this has all the hallmarks of a very decent trading bet.isam said:
bwin are 300sTheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
500/1!!
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/enhanced-win-only0 -
What does enhanced win only mean?
And why on earth are the UK 8/1?0 -
Do the LDs lose all their MEPs on 7%?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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At one point 2010 Conservatives were more important for the Con to Lab swing than the 2010 Lib Dems. It's a myth that there has been no movement between the Conservatives and Labour.GIN1138 said:What I can't understand is how has Labour gone from 43% in 2012 to 35% in 2014 when 2010 Lib-Dems are solid and they never secured many 2010 Conservative's in the first place?
Has there been a mass suicide pact of old Trots that we've not been told about? Have thousands of Labour voters gone the same way as the missing Malaysia Airline?
I don't understand what's happened...0 -
The biggest and as far as I am concerned the best news story of the day is Patten's resignation as BBC Chairman, although of course I'm sorry that this resulted from serious ill health.0
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Don't know how youd work this out but PP are 11/2 top 10 finish,TheScreamingEagles said:
Bloody Hell!isam said:
Skybet "Enhanced Win Only"TheScreamingEagles said:
Cheers, this has all the hallmarks of a very decent trading bet.isam said:
bwin are 300sTheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
500/1!!
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/enhanced-win-only
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/top-10-finish0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
FPT - Another_Richard, a report on my Mother and I's visit to Page Hall Road.
So we went back, my mother was back to saying how disgusting the Roma are, begging and being an annoyance and doing bad things in the street.
When we got back into the car, I said, she was being far too harsh on the Roma, and they were a persecuted race, that Hitler had tried to wipe them out.
Her response "I can understand why"*
*Not her exact words, this conversation was in Urdu.
I know someone who lives in Dore and dislikes his neighbours so much that he's thinking about renting out his house to an extended Roma family if he moves away.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT - Another_Richard, a report on my Mother and I's visit to Page Hall Road.
So we went back, my mother was back to saying how disgusting the Roma are, begging and being an annoyance and doing bad things in the street.
When we got back into the car, I said, she was being far too harsh on the Roma, and they were a persecuted race, that Hitler had tried to wipe them out.
Her response "I can understand why"*
*Not her exact words, this conversation was in Urdu.
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I think Lord Pearson would be the most entertaining replacement. The wails from Broadcasting House would be heard in Hull. :-)peter_from_putney said:The biggest and as far as I am concerned the best news story of the day is Patten's resignation as BBC Chairman, although of course I'm sorry that this resulted from serious ill health.
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The rest of the residents of Dore would go all Wicker Man on that person.another_richard said:TheScreamingEagles said:FPT - Another_Richard, a report on my Mother and I's visit to Page Hall Road.
So we went back, my mother was back to saying how disgusting the Roma are, begging and being an annoyance and doing bad things in the street.
When we got back into the car, I said, she was being far too harsh on the Roma, and they were a persecuted race, that Hitler had tried to wipe them out.
Her response "I can understand why"*
*Not her exact words, this conversation was in Urdu.
I know someone who lives in Dore and dislikes his neighbours so much that he's thinking about renting out his house to an extended Roma family if he moves away.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT - Another_Richard, a report on my Mother and I's visit to Page Hall Road.
So we went back, my mother was back to saying how disgusting the Roma are, begging and being an annoyance and doing bad things in the street.
When we got back into the car, I said, she was being far too harsh on the Roma, and they were a persecuted race, that Hitler had tried to wipe them out.
Her response "I can understand why"*
*Not her exact words, this conversation was in Urdu.0 -
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Probably not - we're now too close to a General Election.0 -
Eurovision does occasionally throw up some bizarre prices.isam said:
Don't know how youd work this out but PP are 11/2 top 10 finish,TheScreamingEagles said:
Bloody Hell!isam said:
Skybet "Enhanced Win Only"TheScreamingEagles said:
Cheers, this has all the hallmarks of a very decent trading bet.isam said:
bwin are 300sTheScreamingEagles said:
250/1 with Betfred, just topping up now.peter_from_putney said:Iceland still on offer at 250/1 with the Tote, etc. but only 33/1 with Ladbrokes. Personally I blame Shadsy.
500/1!!
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/enhanced-win-only
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/top-10-finish
Last year I think you could back Greece at 66/1 and 10/1 on the night.0 -
Another day, another mad lefty policy from labour. Given it looks as though the Tories are playing them long so they can spout and more lefty crud, and the lead is now only one point, its sure going to hard for the self confessed intellectual powerhouse Mili to win.
The more the broken record of "cost of living crisis" is repeated, the more it it clear that Miliband believes it to be a real & sustainable fact and all the great economic numbers are fake.0 -
#12 What proportion of the housing bubble is caused by help to buy and what proportion by the flood of money from the BRICs? Osborne may not be able to stop it if it's mostly the latter.
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Not a lot of point, who would they replace him with?peter_from_putney said:Will the knives come out for EdM should Labour fall behind in the polls?
Probably not - we're now too close to a General Election.0 -
Yup...anotherDave said:
Do the LDs lose all their MEPs on 7%?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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Probably? Off the top of my head 7% would still be borderline for the SE region.RodCrosby said:
Yup...anotherDave said:
Do the LDs lose all their MEPs on 7%?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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Lord Ashcroft wrote something on this:GIN1138 said:
Thanks.anotherDave said:
All the swing voters moved to UKIP.GIN1138 said:Whatt I can't understand is how has Labour gone from 43% in 2012 to 35% in 2014 when 2010 Lib-Dems are solid and they never secured many 2010 Conservative's in the first place?
Has there been a mass suicide pact of old Trots that we've not been told about? Have thousands of Labour voters gone the same way as the missing Malaysia Airline?
I don't understand what's happened...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Graphical_summary
http://www.markpack.org.uk/40907/labour-are-the-big-losers-from-ukips-surge/
So, if "swing-voters" decide voting UKIP under a FPTP general election is pointless and decide to move to the next best thing (Conservative) Labour's stuffed even with 2010 Lib-Dems?
"...one in ten UKIP supporters both agreeing that a vote for the party increased the chances of a Miliband victory and saying this might make a difference to how they ended up casting their ballot."
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2014/03/vote-ukip-get/0 -
Splendid! Many thanks Mr Crosby.RodCrosby said:
Yup...anotherDave said:
Do the LDs lose all their MEPs on 7%?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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Thank you - this means a lot to me.peter_from_putney said:Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspects which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.
My intention is not to post a blog so much as to do some thinking and then put my thoughts up online for others to see and vehemently disagree with if necessary. I'm particularly grateful to anotherDave, who has very different views from me but who has helped me reconsider my thinking on what's coming next on a few key points.
I'm actually proudest of today's post, where I think I've spotted something that hasn't been fully appreciated before.0 -
I don't think he's right.anotherDave said:
Splendid! Many thanks Mr Crosby.RodCrosby said:
Yup...anotherDave said:
Do the LDs lose all their MEPs on 7%?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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SkyBet and BetFred are letting me put up 15quid a pop.Pulpstar said:Bet placement confirmation
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You should be very proud of your blog.antifrank said:
Thank you - this means a lot to me.peter_from_putney said:Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspects which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.
My intention is not to post a blog so much as to do some thinking and then put my thoughts up online for others to see and vehemently disagree with if necessary. I'm particularly grateful to anotherDave, who has very different views from me but who has helped me reconsider my thinking on what's coming next on a few key points.
I'm actually proudest of today's post, where I think I've spotted something that hasn't been fully appreciated before.
I suspect I'll be doing a few threads based on your blog!0 -
Wow! Betfair presumably?Pulpstar said:Selection Odds Stake Returns Maximum potential returns including stake amount. Receipt More
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Don't worry, I am...corporeal said:
I don't think he's right.anotherDave said:
Splendid! Many thanks Mr Crosby.RodCrosby said:
Yup...anotherDave said:
Do the LDs lose all their MEPs on 7%?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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SkyBet have let me have £20. Going to have to talk to Betfred people tommorow. Account is on the naughty step or something...0
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And your response on the South East?RodCrosby said:
Don't worry, I am...corporeal said:
I don't think he's right.anotherDave said:
Splendid! Many thanks Mr Crosby.RodCrosby said:
Yup...anotherDave said:
Do the LDs lose all their MEPs on 7%?RodCrosby said:Not long now till crossover... ;-)
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Good economic news can be counter productive if the electorate don't feel the benefit.kle4 said:
You'd think so, but I doubt it will have all that much impact, notwithstanding the occasional good poll for the Tories. In ordinary times it seems like it should shore up the Tory vote to 2010 levels or a few points above if they're lucky, but the party still seems so beset by internal troubles that if they ever got into a good position they'd be too busy shooting their own foot while digging their own grave to seize it.SquareRoot said:the good economic news has to have an effect soon.... surely...
Further to that it has taken so long for things to pretty much umambiguously start looking up (plenty of naysayers among economists, and they're probably right, but then again apparently no-one in authority saw a huge crash coming, so even if another period of pain is coming, it's probably inevitable so I won;t worry about it) that anyone on the fence or inclined to dislike the Tories (which is a majority of the electorate) will probably see any economic recovery as bound to happen eventually whoever was in power, in which case punishing the Tory cutters and LD betrayers can be done without fear.
After all why should 'they' get the benefit whilst you don't - 'they' being any group different to you.
Now compare and contrast:
Annual increase in earnings:
May 1983 +8.9%
May 1987 +8.6%
Mar 1992 +9.1%
RPI
May 1983 +3.7%
May 1987 +4.1%
Mar 1992 +4.0%
These help explain the Conservative landslide of 1983. Sure there's Foot and the Falklands but wages increasing by more than 5% above inflation makes for a happy electorate.
Likewise, wages were rising very nicely in the weeks before the Conservatives surprise victory in 1992.
By comparison RPI is at present higher than the annual increase in earnings and has been so consistently under this government.
Meanwhile 'they' get all the benefits etc.
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