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Good evening, everyone.0
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Evening !0
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FPT
I can't find any election rules against it.anotherDave said:
Isn't there a general rule about using insider information?Quincel said:
I don't know for sure, but I was always under the impression it wasn't, and there were no rules whatsoever governing political betting.GeoffM said:
Okay, I know that I should know this ... but ... is this true?isam said:
Mr Helmer was dismissive of the odds, adding: "I can't put on a bet as I would be breaking election rules.
Or participants having a financial interest in the outcome? The obvious danger here would be people betting against themselves, and sabotaging their campaign.
The biggest danger would be the over/under of votes for those joke candidates the bookies sometimes offer. I've always wondered whether anything would stop 51 locals just putting bets on and then going and voting themselves money.
I think Helmer's got it wrong tbh.0 -
Who is going to leave the realms of mere mortals and embrace legendhood by joining the PB 2014 Mk3 Diplomacy game?
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Bugger!caught by thread change, again.
Change of topic:
I have this feeling that when the results of the referendum in the Eastern Ukraine are announced, and it goes to those favouring union with Russia, Putin will send his troops in.
This feeling is particularly strong tonight, as Obama and Kerry denounce the referendum in pithy terms.
"The Obama administration denounced as illegal a planned weekend referendum by pro-Russian insurgents pushing for autonomy and independence for portions of eastern Ukraine.
Secretary of State John Kerry said Tuesday the referendum being planned for Sunday would be "bogus" and would not be recognized (sic) by the West.
"We flatly reject this illegal effort to further divide Ukraine," he told reporters after meeting at the State Department with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton."
I see that the EU and Ashton are in the mix again.0 -
Freggles, I would but I've already got two pb diplomacy games on the go. If you're still stuck then I'll join after finishing whichever game I win faster.0
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Bloody bookies can't add up !
Still if I push a missed 50p on an 8-1 shot that hacked up at 5-1 I'm probably going to make the ban list0 -
Interesting piece about Chinese politics, cleaning up corruption and so forth:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27289321
The tiger references remind me of The Tiger Killers, one of the books (if you go for separate volumes rather than a boxed set) in the Outlaws of the Marsh. It's a sort of Robin Hood in China.0 -
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Evening colleagues, just a thought, if Ed did make that remark comparing himself to David Cameron, he clearly cheated at his O'level English because his grammar is shockingly bad.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect there is a little unit deep in the recesses of Nos 10 and 11 Downing Street working on models for Scotland and rUK post independence and that it is having regular chats with the senior civil servants in Edinburgh and Dover House.
I am a fan of Jacob Rees-Mogg but he is wrong on a Tory-UKIP pact. I like many of the PB Kippers but sorry chaps we need to grind you into the ground like an overworked dockside hooker, if you will forgive the totally non-PC pun. You seem happy to welcome an Ed+Ed government as a worthwhile price of getting some Euro sceptic government at some time in the next century. I am not cash rich enough to contemplate that and would rather live in an Independent Scotland than a UK ruined once more by the Labour Party.0 -
I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.0 -
Also I've backed Iceland to win the Eurovision.
I've been impressed by them tonight.
250/1 with Corals.
Now back to the semi.0 -
Mr. Eagles, Caesar really liked diplomacy, judging by how long he stayed in Bithynia...0
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Hadn't put it together before, but I seem to have invaded Pulpstar in both almost simultaneously.Next said:
Do you have intellectual self-confidence about winning?corporeal said:Freggles, I would but I've already got two pb diplomacy games on the go. If you're still stuck then I'll join after finishing whichever game I win faster.
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I think Helmer is an inspired choice by UKIP. The by-election is now too close to call IMO.
Awaiting an Ashcroft constituency poll with interest.0 -
*Innuendo klaxon alert*corporeal said:
Hadn't put it together before, but I seem to have invaded Pulpstar in both almost simultaneously.Next said:
Do you have intellectual self-confidence about winning?corporeal said:Freggles, I would but I've already got two pb diplomacy games on the go. If you're still stuck then I'll join after finishing whichever game I win faster.
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Yet they still made his name the byword for Kings.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, Caesar really liked diplomacy, judging by how long he stayed in Bithynia...
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Mr. Eagles, the Kaiser and Czar didn't fare very well. And Caesar was inferior to Augustus.0
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The bookies don't agreeAndyJS said:I think Helmer is an inspired choice by UKIP. The by-election is now too close to call IMO.
Awaiting an Ashcroft constituency poll with interest.0 -
That's mainly because Augustus pinched it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet they still made his name the byword for Kings.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, Caesar really liked diplomacy, judging by how long he stayed in Bithynia...
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Shush, he picked it, because he wanted a name that would be both feared and respected for military prowess.JohnLilburne said:
That's mainly because Augustus pinched it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet they still made his name the byword for Kings.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, Caesar really liked diplomacy, judging by how long he stayed in Bithynia...
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--- Betting post ---
If you like long odds, big win bets but don't play the lottery because the odds are just so fundamentally poor then you could do worse than having a go on the Scoop 6 which will have a £7.5 million fund this Saturday. Multiple rollovers mean it is +EV to play now
(Though obviously still a longshot)
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Cameron and EdM did the same degree at the same University. Ed got a Second,Cameron got a First. EdM's chief claim to mental excellence is his ability to solve the Rubik's Cube quite rapidly.Easterross said:Evening colleagues, just a thought, if Ed did make that remark comparing himself to David Cameron, he clearly cheated at his O'level English because his grammar is shockingly bad.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect there is a little unit deep in the recesses of Nos 10 and 11 Downing Street working on models for Scotland and rUK post independence and that it is having regular chats with the senior civil servants in Edinburgh and Dover House.
I am a fan of Jacob Rees-Mogg but he is wrong on a Tory-UKIP pact. I like many of the PB Kippers but sorry chaps we need to grind you into the ground like an overworked dockside hooker, if you will forgive the totally non-PC pun. You seem happy to welcome an Ed+Ed government as a worthwhile price of getting some Euro sceptic government at some time in the next century. I am not cash rich enough to contemplate that and would rather live in an Independent Scotland than a UK ruined once more by the Labour Party.
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I agree with Andy JS. Helmer is a good choice for Ukip and his selection sends out a strong dog whistle about the party. His controversial views could bring in votes and the fact that he's an ex-Tory helps.TheScreamingEagles said:
The bookies don't agreeAndyJS said:I think Helmer is an inspired choice by UKIP. The by-election is now too close to call IMO.
Awaiting an Ashcroft constituency poll with interest.
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There's certainly no rule I have ever heard of that would stop Roger Helmer or anyone else having a bet on the result of an election, even if they are a participant.0
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I'm waiting for a few more of his views to become public and see his price soar, then back him.MikeSmithson said:
I agree with Andy JS. Helmer is a good choice for Ukip and his selection sends out a strong dog whistle about the party. His controversial views could bring in votes and the fact that he's an ex-Tory helps.TheScreamingEagles said:
The bookies don't agreeAndyJS said:I think Helmer is an inspired choice by UKIP. The by-election is now too close to call IMO.
Awaiting an Ashcroft constituency poll with interest.0 -
I've put another £50 on UKIP at 5/1. It'll make election night interesting even if I lose.0
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Didn't the Humberside Police Commissioner back himself at 100/1 to win without any problems?shadsy said:There's certainly no rule I have ever heard of that would stop Roger Helmer or anyone else having a bet on the result of an election, even if they are a participant.
Edit: Mr Grove referred to defying the odds to win the election.
Bookmaker William Hill had given him odds of 100/1 at one stage in the campaign.
He said: "Thank you William Hill for that windfall, on behalf of some of my campaign members who put a bet on."
William Hill said they had taken one bet of £10 at 100/1 on Mr Grove and two bets of £100 at 10/1.
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Matthew-Grove-beats-John-Prescott-Humberside/story-17339710-detail/story.html
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I think it was more a matter of factional politics, and the desire to not be associated with that nutter Marcus Antonius.TheScreamingEagles said:
Shush, he picked it, because he wanted a name that would be both feared and respected for military prowess.JohnLilburne said:
That's mainly because Augustus pinched it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet they still made his name the byword for Kings.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, Caesar really liked diplomacy, judging by how long he stayed in Bithynia...
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Helmer - personally I never trust anyone whose tie is a Windsor knot. Still, unlike Allardyce, at least he fastens the top button of his shirt.0
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The Blue Guerilla thinks Farage is angling for Portsmouth South.
http://www.theblueguerilla.co.uk/2014/05/hancock-under-pressure-from-ukip-after.html0 -
Clement Freud
"In his column in Racing Post, issue of 23 August 2006, he wrote about his election to Parliament in a by-election: "Politically, I was an anti-Conservative unable to join a Labour party hell-bent on nationalising everything that moved, so when a by-election occurred in East Anglia, where I lived and live, I stood as a Liberal and was fortunate in getting in. Ladbrokes quoted me at 33-1 in this three-horse contest, so Ladbrokes paid for me to have rather more secretarial and research staff than other MPs, which helped to keep me in for five parliaments.""
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O/T - I saw a Scottish European Elections ballot paper today, and some of the tag lines were interesting, in order as they appear on the ballot paper.
Britain First - Defending The Union 2014
BNP - We can make Scotland Better
Conservative Party - Scottish Conservatives vote no to Independence
Labour Party - No Tag Line
Liberal Democrats - Scottish Liberal Democrats
NO2EU - Yes to Workers Rights
Scottish Green Party - No Tag Line
SNP - Make Scotland's Mark in Europe
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http://www.theblueguerilla.co.uk/2013/11/another-d-day-for-mike-hancock-mp.htmlpeter_from_putney said:Helmer - personally I never trust anyone whose tie is a Windsor knot. Still, unlike Allardyce, at least he fastens the top button of his shirt.
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Consider the following scenario: Candidate A is the favourite to win the election. He puts £1,000 on candidate B at 5/1. On the day before the election, on live television, candidate A makes a speech denying the Holocaust, with the intention of losing the election. Candidate A has interfered with the event or process to which the gambling relates. Surely he is criminally liable by virtue of section 42(1) of the Gambling Act 2005?shadsy said:There's certainly no rule I have ever heard of that would stop Roger Helmer or anyone else having a bet on the result of an election, even if they are a participant.
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Could the Lord become a Kipper?
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 6m
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Roger Helmer strikes me as someone who having rejected political correctness and defined himself against it, now just enjoys shocking people, being insensitive, pedantic and facetious. There is much to reject about political correctness, but kindness and humanity go a long way to bridging the gap with people. UKIP must hope there are enough secret P.C. haters out there to get him elected, because I certainly don't think he has floating voter appeal like Diane James has.0
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Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspects which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.0 -
I think it is ok for you to back yourself to win in an election, but not OK to back yourself to lose.
Gawd knows what happens with spread betting.0 -
Yeah surely they could only back themselves?Life_ina_market_town said:
Consider the following scenario: Candidate A is the favourite to win the election. He puts £1,000 on candidate B at 5/1. On the day before the election, on live television, candidate A makes a speech denying the Holocaust, with the intention of losing the election. Candidate A has interfered with the event or process to which the gambling relates. Surely he is criminally liable by virtue of section 42(1) of the Gambling Act 2005?shadsy said:There's certainly no rule I have ever heard of that would stop Roger Helmer or anyone else having a bet on the result of an election, even if they are a participant.
£5 to lay on BF UKIP 5.5 ARB!!!!
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And be aware that your £10 will be up against syndicates with hundreds of thousands of pounds to spend!Pulpstar said:--- Betting post ---
If you like long odds, big win bets but don't play the lottery because the odds are just so fundamentally poor then you could do worse than having a go on the Scoop 6 which will have a £7.5 million fund this Saturday. Multiple rollovers mean it is +EV to play now
(Though obviously still a longshot)
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For that alone he should be barred from ever becoming PM. Rubik's Cube was the work of the devilMonikerDiCanio said:
Cameron and EdM did the same degree at the same University. Ed got a Second,Cameron got a First. EdM's chief claim to mental excellence is his ability to solve the Rubik's Cube quite rapidly.Easterross said:Evening colleagues, just a thought, if Ed did make that remark comparing himself to David Cameron, he clearly cheated at his O'level English because his grammar is shockingly bad.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect there is a little unit deep in the recesses of Nos 10 and 11 Downing Street working on models for Scotland and rUK post independence and that it is having regular chats with the senior civil servants in Edinburgh and Dover House.
I am a fan of Jacob Rees-Mogg but he is wrong on a Tory-UKIP pact. I like many of the PB Kippers but sorry chaps we need to grind you into the ground like an overworked dockside hooker, if you will forgive the totally non-PC pun. You seem happy to welcome an Ed+Ed government as a worthwhile price of getting some Euro sceptic government at some time in the next century. I am not cash rich enough to contemplate that and would rather live in an Independent Scotland than a UK ruined once more by the Labour Party.0 -
Backing anyone in Newark, PtP ?peter_from_putney said:Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspect which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.
@Shadsy How is the Newark book looking, who is best and worst results ? Anyone lumping on the Lib Dems?!
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As it is the lagershed.Easterross said:
For that alone he should be barred from ever becoming PM. Rubik's Cube was the work of the devilMonikerDiCanio said:
Cameron and EdM did the same degree at the same University. Ed got a Second,Cameron got a First. EdM's chief claim to mental excellence is his ability to solve the Rubik's Cube quite rapidly.Easterross said:Evening colleagues, just a thought, if Ed did make that remark comparing himself to David Cameron, he clearly cheated at his O'level English because his grammar is shockingly bad.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect there is a little unit deep in the recesses of Nos 10 and 11 Downing Street working on models for Scotland and rUK post independence and that it is having regular chats with the senior civil servants in Edinburgh and Dover House.
I am a fan of Jacob Rees-Mogg but he is wrong on a Tory-UKIP pact. I like many of the PB Kippers but sorry chaps we need to grind you into the ground like an overworked dockside hooker, if you will forgive the totally non-PC pun. You seem happy to welcome an Ed+Ed government as a worthwhile price of getting some Euro sceptic government at some time in the next century. I am not cash rich enough to contemplate that and would rather live in an Independent Scotland than a UK ruined once more by the Labour Party.
What does a Rubik's cube and a penis have in common?
The longer you play with them, the harder they get.0 -
I'm in one of those, a 5000ish (Free !) member one. I'll play a line for myself though, which will most likely be within their selections for 5/6 with perhaps 1 perm line changed.TOPPING said:
And be aware that your £10 will be up against syndicates with hundreds of thousands of pounds to spend!Pulpstar said:--- Betting post ---
If you like long odds, big win bets but don't play the lottery because the odds are just so fundamentally poor then you could do worse than having a go on the Scoop 6 which will have a £7.5 million fund this Saturday. Multiple rollovers mean it is +EV to play now
(Though obviously still a longshot)
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The odds don't change with 1 or 2000 lines though.0 -
Then consider the following: Candidate B is the favourite. Candidate A puts £1000 on himself at 5/1. The day before the election, candidate A makes a speech strongly attacking candidate B's character, with the intent of winning the election, and does so against all expectations. Is candidate A criminally liable?isam said:Yeah surely they could only back themselves?
£5 to lay on BF UKIP 5.5 ARB!!!!0 -
A forgettable x factor winner?isam said:Could the Lord become a Kipper?
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 6m
"If the British electorate always vote for what they've always voted for, they'll always get what they've always had"0 -
Anyone got any general news about this poll embargoed until midnight tonight (unless I've misunderstood and it's tomorrow night). I think it's an Ashcroft mega-poll of marginals, is that confirmed? Any chance of it being Newark?0
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Most important news of the day, in what was apparently a dreadfully dull match, Ross County has beaten Hibs 1-0 thereby avoiding the drop and creating the possibility of both Edinburgh clubs being demoted this season. As Jack W would say 'titters'0
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The Ashcroft Marginals polls comes out in a few weeks time.Quincel said:Anyone got any general news about this poll embargoed until midnight tonight (unless I've misunderstood and it's tomorrow night). I think it's an Ashcroft mega-poll of marginals, is that confirmed? Any chance of it being Newark?
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I don't think so. If that worked everyone would do it to win elections wouldn't they?Life_ina_market_town said:
Then consider the following: Candidate B is the favourite. Candidate A puts £1000 on himself at 5/1. The day before the election, candidate A makes a speech strongly attacking candidate B's character, with the intent of winning the election, and does so against all expectations. Is candidate A criminally liable?isam said:Yeah surely they could only back themselves?
£5 to lay on BF UKIP 5.5 ARB!!!!
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Ah, thanks for that. I didn't read the thread on that closely enough, did I?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Ashcroft Marginals polls comes out in a few weeks time.Quincel said:Anyone got any general news about this poll embargoed until midnight tonight (unless I've misunderstood and it's tomorrow night). I think it's an Ashcroft mega-poll of marginals, is that confirmed? Any chance of it being Newark?
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I think 5/1 is as good as it gets. So I put another tenner on Helmer. Boy I'm really going mad tonight.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm waiting for a few more of his views to become public and see his price soar, then back him.MikeSmithson said:
I agree with Andy JS. Helmer is a good choice for Ukip and his selection sends out a strong dog whistle about the party. His controversial views could bring in votes and the fact that he's an ex-Tory helps.TheScreamingEagles said:
The bookies don't agreeAndyJS said:I think Helmer is an inspired choice by UKIP. The by-election is now too close to call IMO.
Awaiting an Ashcroft constituency poll with interest.0 -
TSE the Ashcroft poll is coming out the day after the Euro elections.
I assume we will have the pogo pollsters in a few minutes time? What will tonight be? Labour lead of 6, 10 or Avery and Compouter's blessed crossover approaching once more!0 -
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.0 -
I think it's because you have moved out of Yorkshire.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
The North-West is sapping your manly vigor.
It is Kryptonite but with more BBC employees and Krispy Kreme donuts.
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Same here and agree but it puts the one line into perspective. Plus of course and although the odds aren't the same (and hence the opportunity to win through analysis), to pick the winner in each of 6 x 15 runner races is still pretty formidable at greater than the national lottery = 15m/1.Pulpstar said:
I'm in one of those, a 5000ish (Free !) member one. I'll play a line for myself though, which will most likely be within their selections for 5/6 with perhaps 1 perm line changed.TOPPING said:
And be aware that your £10 will be up against syndicates with hundreds of thousands of pounds to spend!Pulpstar said:--- Betting post ---
If you like long odds, big win bets but don't play the lottery because the odds are just so fundamentally poor then you could do worse than having a go on the Scoop 6 which will have a £7.5 million fund this Saturday. Multiple rollovers mean it is +EV to play now
(Though obviously still a longshot)
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The odds don't change with 1 or 2000 lines though.0 -
Mike posted this yesterdayQuincel said:
Ah, thanks for that. I didn't read the thread on that closely enough, did I?TheScreamingEagles said:
The Ashcroft Marginals polls comes out in a few weeks time.Quincel said:Anyone got any general news about this poll embargoed until midnight tonight (unless I've misunderstood and it's tomorrow night). I think it's an Ashcroft mega-poll of marginals, is that confirmed? Any chance of it being Newark?
There's some very interesting polling coming out on Ukip in 2015 which I've got but is embargoed until 0001 on Wednesday0 -
Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 50 secs
Just one year to go til polling day 2015 tmrw, and our YouGov tonight has Labour on just a 1 point lead: LAB 35%, CON 34%, UKIP 14%, LD 9%
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A video for all those that insist that immigrants and their children are "just as British/English as the rest of us" etc etc
Awate seems a nice chap
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So long as you stay the correct side of electoral law you'd be fine.Life_ina_market_town said:
Then consider the following: Candidate B is the favourite. Candidate A puts £1000 on himself at 5/1. The day before the election, candidate A makes a speech strongly attacking candidate B's character, with the intent of winning the election, and does so against all expectations. Is candidate A criminally liable?isam said:Yeah surely they could only back themselves?
£5 to lay on BF UKIP 5.5 ARB!!!!
If you produced this sort of stuff though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Woolas_2010_election_leaflet.jpg and backed yourself, well you might be in trouble. I mean you'd be in trouble if you didn't back yourself but you might be in more.0 -
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft
YouGov/Sun poll: LAB 35% CON 34% UKIP 14% LDEM 9%0 -
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.0 -
oh jings where are Avery and Compouter when you need an "old married couple" to have an entertaining ding dong!0
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The statute says that a person is guilty of an offence if he cheats at gambling. It is immaterial whether he improves his chances of winning or wins anything. Cheating at gambling may, in particular, consist of interference in the event or process to which the gambling relates. On a strict construction, it is arguable that a person commits an offence if he backs a party to win a seat, and then campaigns for the party, or even votes for it.isam said:I don't think so. If that worked everyone would do it to win elections wouldn't they?
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She's from Surrey though - leader of UKIP on Waverley borough council. Eastleigh isn't too far away, but I don't know how well she'd go down in Newark.Luckyguy1983 said:Roger Helmer strikes me as someone who having rejected political correctness and defined himself against it, now just enjoys shocking people, being insensitive, pedantic and facetious. There is much to reject about political correctness, but kindness and humanity go a long way to bridging the gap with people. UKIP must hope there are enough secret P.C. haters out there to get him elected, because I certainly don't think he has floating voter appeal like Diane James has.
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I spend my time equally between Yorkshire and Manchester.Freggles said:
I think it's because you have moved out of Yorkshire.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
The North-West is sapping your manly vigor.
It is Kryptonite but with more BBC employees and Krispy Kreme donuts.0 -
TOPPING said:
Same here and agree but it puts the one line into perspective. Plus of course and although the odds aren't the same (and hence the opportunity to win through analysis), to pick the winner in each of 6 x 15 runner races is still pretty formidable at greater than the national lottery = 15m/1.Pulpstar said:
I'm in one of those, a 5000ish (Free !) member one. I'll play a line for myself though, which will most likely be within their selections for 5/6 with perhaps 1 perm line changed.TOPPING said:
And be aware that your £10 will be up against syndicates with hundreds of thousands of pounds to spend!Pulpstar said:--- Betting post ---
If you like long odds, big win bets but don't play the lottery because the odds are just so fundamentally poor then you could do worse than having a go on the Scoop 6 which will have a £7.5 million fund this Saturday. Multiple rollovers mean it is +EV to play now
(Though obviously still a longshot)
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The odds don't change with 1 or 2000 lines though.
All bingo/lottery balls are equal, some horses more likely to win than others
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Labour ought not to panic. The article only came out today. The lure of Ed and his gazelle-like intellect has yet to filter through.Tykejohnno said:Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 50 secs
Just one year to go til polling day 2015 tmrw, and our YouGov tonight has Labour on just a 1 point lead: LAB 35%, CON 34%, UKIP 14%, LD 9%0 -
You'll have to have the whole of pb up before the beak then.Life_ina_market_town said:
The statute says that a person is guilty of an offence if he cheats at gambling. It is immaterial whether he improves his chances of winning or wins anything. Cheating at gambling may, in particular, consist of interference in the event or process to which the gambling relates. On a strict construction, it is arguable that a person commits an offence if he backs a party to win a seat, and then campaigns for the party, or even votes for it.isam said:I don't think so. If that worked everyone would do it to win elections wouldn't they?
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I fear you are confusing me with another similarly-named but all too infrequent poster ..... so that's the usual £1 fine you owe the PB social fund.Pulpstar said:
Backing anyone in Newark, PtP ?peter_from_putney said:Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspect which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.
@Shadsy How is the Newark book looking, who is best and worst results ? Anyone lumping on the Lib Dems?!
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Mr. Dawning, one eagerly awaits to see if a question arises to which the Milibrain's answer is not state intervention.0
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By the way folks, I'm as subtle as a brick through a window.0
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So if a trainer backs his horse and tells the jockey to set a fast pace, knowing it will inconvenience its main rival, that is cheating at gambling and he should be charged with a criminal offence?Life_ina_market_town said:
The statute says that a person is guilty of an offence if he cheats at gambling. It is immaterial whether he improves his chances of winning or wins anything. Cheating at gambling may, in particular, consist of interference in the event or process to which the gambling relates. On a strict construction, it is arguable that a person commits an offence if he backs a party to win a seat, and then campaigns for the party, or even votes for it.isam said:I don't think so. If that worked everyone would do it to win elections wouldn't they?
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I believe pro jockeys are allowed to bet on themselves to win?Life_ina_market_town said:
The consider the following: Candidate B is the favourite. Candidate A puts £1000 on himself at 5/1. The day before the election, candidate A makes a speech strongly attacking candidate B's character, with the intent of winning the election, and does so against all expectations. Is candidate A criminally liable?isam said:Yeah surely they could only back themselves?
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Mr. Eagles, I believe I speak for most pbers when I say that we have noticed this already.0
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Not confusing you with PtP...peter_from_putney said:
I fear you are confusing me with another similarly-named but all too infrequent poster ..... so that's the usual £1 fine you owe the PB social fund.Pulpstar said:
Backing anyone in Newark, PtP ?peter_from_putney said:Strange town: London 2015
A terrific piece by antifrank on his new and most absorbing blog. I do hope he'll keep this going - particularly the betting aspect which are all too absent these days on PB.com itself.
@Shadsy How is the Newark book looking, who is best and worst results ? Anyone lumping on the Lib Dems?!
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The Ruskies have been booed during the Eurovision semi final.
The Eurovision song contest is the true voice of the people of Europe.0 -
May 1986 LAB 39% CON 28% LIB/SDP 30%Tykejohnno said:Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 50 secs
Just one year to go til polling day 2015 tmrw, and our YouGov tonight has Labour on just a 1 point lead: LAB 35%, CON 34%, UKIP 14%, LD 9%
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Oh dear.Life_ina_market_town said:
The statute says that a person is guilty of an offence if he cheats at gambling. It is immaterial whether he improves his chances of winning or wins anything. Cheating at gambling may, in particular, consist of interference in the event or process to which the gambling relates. On a strict construction, it is arguable that a person commits an offence if he backs a party to win a seat, and then campaigns for the party, or even votes for it.isam said:I don't think so. If that worked everyone would do it to win elections wouldn't they?
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Hedgehogs: why can't they just share the hedge?0
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I am, of course, not arguing that he should be locked up, merely that he might be guilty of an offence on a strict construction of the statute. Parliament often passes badly drafted legislation...isam said:So if a trainer backs his horse and tells the jockey to set a fast pace, knowing it will inconvenience its main rival, that is cheating at gambling and he should be charged with a criminal offence?
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Iceland are through to the Eurovision final. I backed them at 250/1 earlier on, they are now down to 100/1 with Corals0
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Remember all those posts about how Lab was rock solid on 38 to 39?
Well two different YouGovs on Sunday had them on 36 and now tonight they are on 35.
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Iceland through... good bet at 250s I reckonTheScreamingEagles said:The Ruskies have been booed during the Eurovision semi final.
The Eurovision song contest is the true voice of the people of Europe.
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You mean the russkies are in a - ahem - clef stick?TheScreamingEagles said:The Ruskies have been booed during the Eurovision semi final.
The Eurovision song contest is the true voice of the people of Europe.
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Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.0 -
I hope to have my annual PB Eurovision thread up on Friday night.isam said:
Iceland through... good bet at 250s I reckonTheScreamingEagles said:The Ruskies have been booed during the Eurovision semi final.
The Eurovision song contest is the true voice of the people of Europe.
Ukraine's girl is beautiful
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31/01/2014 Single To Win Q2 2014 @ 6/1
Polling Specials
When will YouGov show Conservatives level with or leading Labour? Pending £7.15
Another hit of the crossbar.0 -
Especially if Barney Curley has anything to do with it....Pulpstar said:TOPPING said:
Same here and agree but it puts the one line into perspective. Plus of course and although the odds aren't the same (and hence the opportunity to win through analysis), to pick the winner in each of 6 x 15 runner races is still pretty formidable at greater than the national lottery = 15m/1.Pulpstar said:
I'm in one of those, a 5000ish (Free !) member one. I'll play a line for myself though, which will most likely be within their selections for 5/6 with perhaps 1 perm line changed.TOPPING said:
And be aware that your £10 will be up against syndicates with hundreds of thousands of pounds to spend!Pulpstar said:--- Betting post ---
If you like long odds, big win bets but don't play the lottery because the odds are just so fundamentally poor then you could do worse than having a go on the Scoop 6 which will have a £7.5 million fund this Saturday. Multiple rollovers mean it is +EV to play now
(Though obviously still a longshot)
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The odds don't change with 1 or 2000 lines though.
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An interesting comparison with 28 years ago Ms DiCanio - it will be intriguing to see how this and any similar subsequent polls impact on Dr Stephen Fisher's GE forecasts over the coming weeks and indeed how the betting markets react.MonikerDiCanio said:
May 1986 LAB 39% CON 28% LIB/SDP 30%Tykejohnno said:Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 50 secs
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I really am busy.HurstLlama said:
Yeah, I got your name. ya big Jessie. I am too subtle for oiks like you becomes I am rather busy at present he moment you are called. Oh, see you Jimmy! Ah see you! Next game and your in an we will see how subtle ye are.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm far too busy for the next six weeks, I promise to play mid June onwards.HurstLlama said:
Ha, prove it! PlayDiplomacy.com, navigate to PB 2014 Mk3 and sign up (password is catsandkittens). As a smart-arse, stonkingly well paid lawyer you ought to be able to negotiate the snot of us poor mortals. So come on then, big boy, if you think you are subtle enough come and have a go.TheScreamingEagles said:I would play diplomacy, but I think I lack the prerequisite skills to be a diplomat.
I'm just too damn subtle to be a diplomat.
Meanwhile, we are still one short for the MK3 game. Its a friendly game, not a death match or anything nasty, ideal fr a new player wanting to get involved in a fascinating hobby.
I've got a wedding to go to next weekend, and I'm the best man, and I've not written the speech yet.
Then the 5 days later, I begin a long stint as Guest Editor of PB, then after my stint I go on holiday for a bit
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Could the bloody Tories just get one f*cking level poll with Labour please. Sick of these off by 1s.0
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You think we're going to have the equivalent of the Lawson boom ?MonikerDiCanio said:
May 1986 LAB 39% CON 28% LIB/SDP 30%Tykejohnno said:Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn · 50 secs
Just one year to go til polling day 2015 tmrw, and our YouGov tonight has Labour on just a 1 point lead: LAB 35%, CON 34%, UKIP 14%, LD 9%
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Is this another poll tonight?
MirrorJames @MirrorJames
A year to the election and Labour's lead tumbles to 1 point . Ed M's party 34% (-2), Cons 33% (+5) - Survation for @DailyMirror0 -
@MirrorJames: A year to the election and Labour's lead tumbles to 1 point . Ed M's party 34% (-2), Cons 33% (+5) - Survation for @DailyMirror
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I didn't even realise one was planned. Also can't quite see how the pro-Russian bods could organize one with heli gunships firing rockets at them. All very weird.MikeK said:Change of topic:
I have this feeling that when the results of the referendum in the Eastern Ukraine are announced, and it goes to those favouring union with Russia, Putin will send his troops in.
This feeling is particularly strong tonight, as Obama and Kerry denounce the referendum in pithy terms.
"The Obama administration denounced as illegal a planned weekend referendum by pro-Russian insurgents pushing for autonomy and independence for portions of eastern Ukraine.
Secretary of State John Kerry said Tuesday the referendum being planned for Sunday would be "bogus" and would not be recognized (sic) by the West.
"We flatly reject this illegal effort to further divide Ukraine," he told reporters after meeting at the State Department with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton."
I see that the EU and Ashton are in the mix again.
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