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I have to admit the location of US States once got me into real trouble.

I once told a people from Washington D.C. that they were from Virginia.

Barnesian said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Barnesian said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stocky said:

HYUFD said:

SandyRentool said:

In 'Are you fecking mental?' news, apparently my brother in law and his family are still planning on going on holiday to Italy in a couple of weeks time.

Well I suppose if you ever want to avoid the queues for the Sistine chapel and the Uffizi and get a good value gondola and place at a top Italian restaurant now is the time

My friends` son is still going to Northern Italy with the school, first week of Easter holidays.

Italy is threatening to close all ski resorts

Link?
I've just arrived in Corvars.

See Cyclefree post at 9.51pm

There isn't a post at 9:51

It (the time stamp) may be changed to 10.51 where you are

Barnesian said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stocky said:

HYUFD said:

SandyRentool said:

In 'Are you fecking mental?' news, apparently my brother in law and his family are still planning on going on holiday to Italy in a couple of weeks time.

Well I suppose if you ever want to avoid the queues for the Sistine chapel and the Uffizi and get a good value gondola and place at a top Italian restaurant now is the time

My friends` son is still going to Northern Italy with the school, first week of Easter holidays.

Italy is threatening to close all ski resorts

Link?
I've just arrived in Corvars.

Corvaro isn`t in Lombardy or Veneto (I don`t think) - so you may be ok.

Chameleon said:

Barnesian said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stocky said:

HYUFD said:

SandyRentool said:

In 'Are you fecking mental?' news, apparently my brother in law and his family are still planning on going on holiday to Italy in a couple of weeks time.

Well I suppose if you ever want to avoid the queues for the Sistine chapel and the Uffizi and get a good value gondola and place at a top Italian restaurant now is the time

My friends` son is still going to Northern Italy with the school, first week of Easter holidays.

Italy is threatening to close all ski resorts

Link?
I've just arrived in Corvars.

You're not in the red zone, so ski lifts etc will still be going and no lockdown yet.

The hotel is half empty. I assume the slopes will be too. Sunny tomorrow. Looking.forward to skiing in the fresh air away from all the crowds. Safer than London

Barnesian said:

Chameleon said:

Barnesian said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stocky said:

HYUFD said:

SandyRentool said:

In 'Are you fecking mental?' news, apparently my brother in law and his family are still planning on going on holiday to Italy in a couple of weeks time.

Well I suppose if you ever want to avoid the queues for the Sistine chapel and the Uffizi and get a good value gondola and place at a top Italian restaurant now is the time

My friends` son is still going to Northern Italy with the school, first week of Easter holidays.

Italy is threatening to close all ski resorts

Link?
I've just arrived in Corvars.

You're not in the red zone, so ski lifts etc will still be going and no lockdown yet.

The hotel is half empty. I assume the slopes will be too. Sunny tomorrow. Looking.forward to skiing in the fresh air away from all the crowds. Safer than London

Yes, I agree, you lucky thing. I guess the airport is your main worry, but maybe Innsbruck is OKish.

philiph said:

Barnesian said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Barnesian said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stocky said:

HYUFD said:

SandyRentool said:

In 'Are you fecking mental?' news, apparently my brother in law and his family are still planning on going on holiday to Italy in a couple of weeks time.

Well I suppose if you ever want to avoid the queues for the Sistine chapel and the Uffizi and get a good value gondola and place at a top Italian restaurant now is the time

My friends` son is still going to Northern Italy with the school, first week of Easter holidays.

Italy is threatening to close all ski resorts

Link?
I've just arrived in Corvars.

See Cyclefree post at 9.51pm

There isn't a post at 9:51

It (the time stamp) may be changed to 10.51 where you are

ah

Cyclefree isn't referring to South Tyrol

Stocky said:

MarqueeMark said:

Stocky said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Stocky said:

HYUFD said:

SandyRentool said:

In 'Are you fecking mental?' news, apparently my brother in law and his family are still planning on going on holiday to Italy in a couple of weeks time.

Well I suppose if you ever want to avoid the queues for the Sistine chapel and the Uffizi and get a good value gondola and place at a top Italian restaurant now is the time

My friends` son is still going to Northern Italy with the school, first week of Easter holidays.

Italy is threatening to close all ski resorts

All ski resorts? I thought just Lombardy ones. The school isn`t going to Lombardy. The school won`t cancel the trip because the Uk government hasn`t banned travel. Without this they cannot claim off their travel insurance and the school would lose well over £30k. Therefore they won`t cancel.

And if the kids get Covid-19? How much are they going to have to pay out in damages?

Well over £30k.....

I think the school in banking on parents withdrawing their children, thus forfeiting their own deposits. I`ll see if I can get an update from my friends.

I can see a similar situation developing for exhibitions.

Where it is in the financial interest of the organisation staging an exhibition to allow it to continue as an exhibitor a risk assessment would no doubt indicate that an employer shouldn't subject staff to the travel and exposure to numerous members of the public.

The organisers will not want to cancel, it is probably better for them if exhibitors withdraw and forfeit any deposits.

TheScreamingEagles said:

state_go_away said:

You could have got long odds on Missouri -South or not? dislodging Corona Virus stuff on this thread!

The US Census Bureau has Missouri in the Mid West, I'm right as usual.



https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf

When I was travelling around the states I was surprised to see how far north the south seemed to be. Although it was certainly hotter there.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Other controversial view.

Florida isn't in the South, at least ideologically.

It seems like it is getting more southern than Virginia and North Carolina.

A must read.

What went wrong with the coronavirus tests in the U.S.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/what-went-wrong-with-the-coronavirus-tests/2020/03/07/915f5dea-5d82-11ea-b29b-9db42f7803a7_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

TheScreamingEagles said:

I have to admit the location of US States once got me into real trouble.

I once told a people from Washington D.C. that they were from Virginia.

The U.S. Constitution provided for a federal district under the exclusive jurisdiction of the U.S. Congress, and the District is therefore not a part of any U.S. state. The states of Maryland and Virginia each donated land to form the federal district, which included the pre-existing settlements of Georgetown and Alexandria. The City of Washington was founded in 1791 to serve as the new national capital. In 1846, Congress returned the land originally ceded by Virginia, including the city of Alexandria; in 1871, it created a single municipal government for the remaining portion of the District.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.

The subject of tonight's Moral Maze on Radio 4 is coronavirus.

Trump is drifting. Some bad polls out for him ?

"Sir Philip Rutnam 'declared war' on Priti Patel, says senior civil servant in new backing for Home Secretary

Mandarin tells of officials openly undermining Ms Patel in meetings"

(£)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/07/sir-philip-rutnam-declared-war-priti-patel-says-senior-civil/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1236422387656265730?s=20

TheScreamingEagles said:

A must read.

What went wrong with the coronavirus tests in the U.S.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/what-went-wrong-with-the-coronavirus-tests/2020/03/07/915f5dea-5d82-11ea-b29b-9db42f7803a7_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

I wonder how many US deaths will be attributed to that catastrophic failure. My guess is probably in the high hundreds of thousands, relative to other countries that tested better and sooner.

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Hasn't there long been? For as long as I remember the limit is 2 paracetamol or ibuprofen items and that includes infant suspension.

Philip_Thompson said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Hasn't there long been? For as long as I remember the limit is 2 paracetamol or ibuprofen items and that includes infant suspension.

Why are parents panicking about Calprol?

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1236364684959395840?s=20

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

I have some sympathy to panic buyers of food in London.

With the cost of housing they probably have less storage space each there than in other places so would have less food in their homes usually.

And are perhaps more used to eating out.

Mohammed bin Nayef, the former crown prince of Saudi Arabia, who got bumped off the succession list to make way for MBS, has been arrested.

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1236364684959395840?s=20

Did he go back at 7pm to buy more bog rolls ?

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Just boil it in the bag for four hours.

None of this poncy "al dente" nonsense here.

https://twitter.com/MartynMcL/status/1236414912932569088

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1236007745297539074?s=20
2 weeks is very optimistic for "healthcare collapse stage". Since this is to a large degree localised they're already on the brink.

MarqueeMark said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Just boil it in the bag for four hours.

None of this poncy "al dente" nonsense here.

I expect some people would try microwaving dry pasta.

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1236370353515044864

Cheltenham too now and you can't get more middle class than Cheltenham Waitrose!

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

If HYFUD is posting this, it must be official govt policy....

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

The epidemic doubling time was 6·4 days

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

What about the BROTH aisle?

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

I've been today and they weren't.

If I were you I'd get off PB now and go to bed - you don't want to miss the 10am opening to get more for your bog roll and dry pasta stockpile.

At what time and where? I went at 8pm so after most Saturday shoppers had already been

Chameleon said:

rottenborough said:

Chameleon said:

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1236007745297539074?s=20
2 weeks is very optimistic for "healthcare collapse stage". Since this is to a large degree localised they're already on the brink.

Dinner tonight with old friends, one of whom is a NHS worker on clinical side. His message - basically stay calm, media are blowing this out of all proportion, no idea why panic is setting in, seasonal flu with a bit extra etc. Actually local hospital is far more concerned about norovirus sick bug.

Interesting, I hope that he knows something most people don't. But so far he seems to be swimming quite strongly against the tide of experts with this.

Mortality rate 1-5%, 5-10% of patients needing ICU aren't great figures. Maybe it'll take Italy's healthcare system collapsing to shock people into reality.


WRT to the Lancet article doubling time of about 6 days seems to be the broad consensus, so good to see that being reinforced.

I agree. I was flabbergasted to hear what I did tonight. Tempted to really argue, but it was a nice social evening and so I held back.

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

I've been today and they weren't.

If I were you I'd get off PB now and go to bed - you don't want to miss the 10am opening to get more for your bog roll and dry pasta stockpile.

https://twitter.com/CaliCali2000/status/1233920891550986240?s=20

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1234323912382500864?s=20

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1234598509971677186?s=20

https://twitter.com/DavidCaoEV/status/1234393682737893376?s=20

https://twitter.com/SciBry/status/1236329210135928832?s=20

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

I've been today and they weren't.

If I were you I'd get off PB now and go to bed - you don't want to miss the 10am opening to get more for your bog roll and dry pasta stockpile.

At what time and where? I went at 8pm so after most Saturday shoppers had already been

8pm in South Yorkshire.

I'll look again tomorrow.

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

I've been today and they weren't.

If I were you I'd get off PB now and go to bed - you don't want to miss the 10am opening to get more for your bog roll and dry pasta stockpile.

https://twitter.com/CaliCali2000/status/1233920891550986240?s=20

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1234323912382500864?s=20

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1234598509971677186?s=20

The only thing sold out in Wycombe was antibacterial hand gel. I saw one shop out of loo paper, but others had plenty.

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

I've been today and they weren't.

If I were you I'd get off PB now and go to bed - you don't want to miss the 10am opening to get more for your bog roll and dry pasta stockpile.

At what time and where? I went at 8pm so after most Saturday shoppers had already been

8pm in South Yorkshire.

I'll look again tomorrow.

Well when we all go into quarantine like Lombardy we know where the emergency supplies will have to be flown into

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/CaliCali2000/status/1233920891550986240?s=20

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1234323912382500864?s=20

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1234598509971677186?s=20

IIUC it's largely back in stock in Japan, it's not like 3/11 where there were production delays or the face mask thing where there's suddenly just way more global demand than supply. People buy it, the shop runs out, then they get some more.

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

I've been today and they weren't.

If I were you I'd get off PB now and go to bed - you don't want to miss the 10am opening to get more for your bog roll and dry pasta stockpile.

https://twitter.com/CaliCali2000/status/1233920891550986240?s=20

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1234323912382500864?s=20

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1234598509971677186?s=20

https://twitter.com/DavidCaoEV/status/1234393682737893376?s=20

https://twitter.com/SciBry/status/1236329210135928832?s=20

There is only so much toilet roll that I can store in my cheeks.

One thing guaranteed to get panic buying going is to tell people that it is happening.

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

another_richard said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:

HYUFD said:

rottenborough said:

Should we not be worried as a country that restrictions are now needed on the amount of Calpol that parents can buy in supermarkets?

Certainly restrictions on pasta, 3 packs only now per customer in Epping Tescos after the shelves almost bare

I haven't seen any panic buying in the Midlands so far. I wonder why people in Essex are panicking more than elsewhere.

I have a friend in Hereford in the Midlands who has just posted images of empty shelves at the local supermarket on Facebook tonight so it is not just Essex

Empty shelves of what ?

I suspect that many of the people who want to buy dry pasta don't even know how to cook it.

Pasta, toilet rolls, rice, increasingly tinned food etc.

You only need to boil pasta it is not haute cuisine

That's still beyond the abilities of many people.

And you're not doing the image of Epping much good by posting this.

The image of Epping at the moment is the least of our concerns and as I posted below this is now occurring across the country

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

Have you been out this evening? Where do you live? I challenge you to go to your local supermarket tonight or tomorrow night and find the toilet roll and pasta shelves are not near empty

No shortage of toilet roll in my village, although sanitizers are sold out.

Has Bulgaria been really lucky or are its figures as dodgy as Turkey's?

Andy_JS said:

rottenborough said:

Chameleon said:

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1236007745297539074?s=20
2 weeks is very optimistic for "healthcare collapse stage". Since this is to a large degree localised they're already on the brink.

Dinner tonight with old friends, one of whom is a NHS worker on clinical side. His message - basically stay calm, media are blowing this out of all proportion, no idea why panic is setting in, seasonal flu with a bit extra etc. Actually local hospital is far more concerned about norovirus sick bug.

In NW Europe 11 countries with a population of 216 million have had 3 fatalities from coronavirus.

I note that you've now excluded France from your cherry picking. 16 deaths, +7 today if you're wondering. Possibly Spain as well? 10 deaths, +7.

Fysics_Teacher said:

One thing guaranteed to get panic buying going is to tell people that it is happening.

There must be marketing people sitting around trying to work out how to coordinate a flash mob to create a Hob Nob Panic or whatever

Beibheirli_C said:

another_richard said:

Not anywhere I've been to or many other PBers.

Still if you want to boast about living in idiotville that's your choice.

No panic buying here in Ireland...

There was in Dunnes in Cork. It makes for an interesting contrast with the lack of panic-buying in advance of a possible no deal Brexit almost a year ago.

Chameleon said:

Andy_JS said:

rottenborough said:

Chameleon said:

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1236007745297539074?s=20
2 weeks is very optimistic for "healthcare collapse stage". Since this is to a large degree localised they're already on the brink.

Dinner tonight with old friends, one of whom is a NHS worker on clinical side. His message - basically stay calm, media are blowing this out of all proportion, no idea why panic is setting in, seasonal flu with a bit extra etc. Actually local hospital is far more concerned about norovirus sick bug.

In NW Europe 11 countries with a population of 216 million have had 3 fatalities from coronavirus.

I note that you've now excluded France from your cherry picking. 16 deaths, +7 today if you're wondering. Possibly Spain as well? 10 deaths, +7.

Whenever a centre of vulnerable people gets infected we're likely to see a surge of deaths - the Washington oldies home as an example.