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Yes, but I'm also aware of language shifting?isam said:
Have you read 1984?corporeal said:
*coughs* words evolve.isam said:
Oh yeah, he was wrong to say that. Anyone who says people of the same race can be racist towards each other is wrong, its nonsenseSouthamObserver said:
As previously discussed, Farage claimed he was the victim of anti-English racism in Scotland. If Roche is wrong, so is he - as you said when we debated it before.isam said:
Good God man! Why don't you just come out and say things?!SouthamObserver said:
It's no stranger than Nigel Farage's definition of race.AndyJS said:Barbara Roche on Newsnight yesterday seemed to have a strange definition of the word "racist". As far as I know, Romanians aren't a different race to British people.
Go on then, what is Nigel Farage's definition of race?
The difference is that Farage's was an off the cuff remark, while Roche and the people that she is in cahoots with, have formed a policy unit on the back of it0 -
Yes , yes. Swivelling and reddened.TheWatcher said:
'Swivelling' ones presumably.dyedwoolie said:isam said:Bet bet I never had
4/6 UKIP to outpoll the Tories in the Euros...now 2/11
I seriously considered £6000 to win £4000, and while I dithered the price went.
The UKIP-Lab-Con tricast now 4/5, hope someone got on, again I didnt
Almost time to let the UKIP bandwagon roll on and concentrate fire on the left, with both eyes on 2015.0 -
I'd reckon a disproportionate number those voters to be nailed on Guardian reading urban types who live in the sort of areas UKIP would never have have a hope in hell.Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
Newspaper readership/class/income/VI breakdown for the 32% ?0 -
The other two thirds are going to vote for it....Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
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At the G.E., the LDs will probably be between 10% and 15%, with a median of 12.5%; a very normal distribution. UKIP could be anywhere from 5% to 20%(+!), with a lower median of say 10%, and a long-tailed distributionisam said:Actually I disagree, but even if I agreed 7/4 is still a massive bet
People said the same for a year about the UKIP/Con Euro match
So LD's should be fav in a match bet, but UKIP have got a greater chance of most votes (though 33/1 isn't very tempting, and 100/1 for the LDs is missing a few zeroes).
7/4 is a touch big but I'd still have the LDs fav.
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The figure for do not would be more revealing, has the campaign against UKIP hardened views on them either way?Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
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PMQs:
Stewart Jackson: "The Peterborough effect is back."0 -
Given the size of the Grauniad's readership that's quite a claim!Pulpstar said:
I'd reckon a disproportionate number those voters to be nailed on Guardian reading urban types who live in the sort of areas UKIP would never have have a hope in hell.Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
Newspaper readership/class/income/VI breakdown for the 32% ?
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Combining Conservative Most Votes with Labour Most seats is THE bet as identified by Nabavi here a while back.isam said:Lads are pick'em most votes in Next GE
Evs Lab
Evs Con
UKIP 33s
LD 100
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-votes
You can get 7/4 UKIP to bt LDs w WH.. surely value???
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/match-bet0 -
So two-thirds think UKIP is hunky-dory.Pulpstar said:
I'd reckon a disproportionate number those voters to be nailed on Guardian reading urban types who live in the sort of areas UKIP would never have have a hope in hell.Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
Newspaper readership/class/income/VI breakdown for the 32% ?0 -
The 33s and 100s are absolutely ridiculous, I wouldn't back them at 330s and 1000sTissue_Price said:
At the G.E., the LDs will probably be between 10% and 15%, with a median of 12.5%; a very normal distribution. UKIP could be anywhere from 5% to 20%(+!), with a lower median of say 10%, and a long-tailed distributionisam said:Actually I disagree, but even if I agreed 7/4 is still a massive bet
People said the same for a year about the UKIP/Con Euro match
So LD's should be fav in a match bet, but UKIP have got a greater chance of most votes (though 33/1 isn't very tempting, and 100/1 for the LDs is missing a few zeroes).
7/4 is a touch big but I'd still have the LDs fav.
I understand the distributions but wasn't basing my bet on the 33s and 100s anyway.
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That's what's interesting, what's the isn't vote, and what's the don't know/no opinion vote?AndyJS said:
So two-thirds think UKIP is hunky-dory.Pulpstar said:
I'd reckon a disproportionate number those voters to be nailed on Guardian reading urban types who live in the sort of areas UKIP would never have have a hope in hell.Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
Newspaper readership/class/income/VI breakdown for the 32% ?
There's the rub
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Yeah, will likely turn out that way although as of right now I have Labour fractionally ahead. 35/34 perhaps, but this will shift.Pulpstar said:
Combining Conservative Most Votes with Labour Most seats is THE bet as identified by Nabavi here a while back.isam said:Lads are pick'em most votes in Next GE
Evs Lab
Evs Con
UKIP 33s
LD 100
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-votes
You can get 7/4 UKIP to bt LDs w WH.. surely value???
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/match-bet0 -
Would be interesting to know the numbers for 'don't know' - as it stands, 68% do not believe UKIP to be racist. I think they would be happy with that.Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
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I am given to understand that 40% of respondents said UKIP isn't racist and 29% don't know whether it is or not (presumably there is a rounding error in there somewhere)dyedwoolie said:
That's what's interesting, what's the isn't vote, and what's the don't know/no opinion vote?AndyJS said:
So two-thirds think UKIP is hunky-dory.Pulpstar said:
I'd reckon a disproportionate number those voters to be nailed on Guardian reading urban types who live in the sort of areas UKIP would never have have a hope in hell.Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
Newspaper readership/class/income/VI breakdown for the 32% ?
There's the rub0 -
I accept that there's more than one way of improving the living standards of the low-paid, and that you can do so without flattening the income distribution - anything that could be done to reduce the cost of housing would go a long way to improving living standards in the UK, for another example.dyedwoolie said:Of course it's possible to be in favour of that, and to make a rational argument for it.
I'm not. I'm after corporate tax avoidance and shrinking the state to reduce tax pressure on lower earners at a far greater effective percentage than higher earners.
I would just like to add two points.
1. I think that capitalism as a system would work better if more people can participate on a more equal footing. Markets become distorted if most people are too poor to take part.
2. It would be nice if people could discuss these various approaches without the use of moronic soundbites. I can understand why politicians use them - they are rarely given the time to develop a proper argument, and they need to provide media organisations with a short excerpt for a news clip or a newspaper headline - but here we are on the internet without such limitations, so it's just a bit sad to see people resorting to them.0 -
What proportion of the 32% actually care?MarqueeMark said:
The other two thirds are going to vote for it....Scott_P said:@carldinnen: BREAKING: ComRes poll for ITV News reveals that one third of the British public (32%) think UKIP is a racist party.
On PMQs I agree it seems irrelevant in the pre-Euro forment but yet again Miliband is trounced - he really has got nothing to say about the economy and everyone knows why.0 -
A third police constable had been dismissed for gross misconduct in relation to the "Plebgate" incident. Little does it help Andrew Mitchell, however.0
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Another Plod sacked over Plebgate for gross misconduct:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27222171
Three down, how many more to come?
So many posters on here got this very, very wrong.0 -
This is NOT a typo:
ComRes, Euro poll:
UKIP 38%
Lab 27%
Con 18%
LD 8%0 -
You need to weigh up the competing facts thatdyedwoolie said:
Yeah, will likely turn out that way although as of right now I have Labour fractionally ahead. 35/34 perhaps, but this will shift.Pulpstar said:
Combining Conservative Most Votes with Labour Most seats is THE bet as identified by Nabavi here a while back.isam said:Lads are pick'em most votes in Next GE
Evs Lab
Evs Con
UKIP 33s
LD 100
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-votes
You can get 7/4 UKIP to bt LDs w WH.. surely value???
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/match-bet
a) Ed Miliband looks as if he would be better suited to mending your PC than running the country vs
b) The Anti-Conservative looks as if it will be more coordinated than GE2010 at GE2015 (Lib Dems will have a record lumpiness in their vote).
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Perhaps some of the 32% who think UKIP is racist think 'racist' is no longer a pejorative term....0
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These dismissals are, in principle, entirely consistent with PC Rowland's account of the incident. That is why there are two contested actions for defamation in the Queen's Bench list. You should carefully read the Crown Prosecution Service's statement, dated 26 November 2013.JosiasJessop said:Another Plod sacked over Plebgate for gross misconduct:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27222171
Three down, how many more to come?
So many posters on here got this very, very wrong.0 -
Dunno about you, but I wouldn't let Ed Miliband anywhere near my PC. If I wanted it fixed, I'd want someone practical, not someone whose views and experience are entirely based on lefty academic abstractions unrelated to the real world.Pulpstar said:You need to weigh up the competing facts that
a) Ed Miliband looks as if he would be better suited to mending your PC than running the country vs
b) The Anti-Conservative looks as if it will be more coordinated than GE2010 at GE2015 (Lib Dems will have a record lumpiness in their vote).
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@JGForsyth: Speculation rife in Westminster that the Chief Clerk is going because he is fed up with Bercow and his style0
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Wow -keep up the smearing please ;-)AndyJS said:This is NOT a typo:
ComRes, Euro poll:
UKIP 38%
Lab 27%
Con 18%
LD 8%0 -
Paddypower now offering Ukip to get more than 23 euro seats at 5/6 . (originally set bar at over 24) .seems at odds with recent poll moves? Is UKIP still facing trouble with that 'an independence from Europe' candidate?0
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Is that Robert Rogers? My brother bought me a book by him as a birthday present a couple of years ago when he was working in the Commons as a website consultant.Scott_P said:@JGForsyth: Speculation rife in Westminster that the Chief Clerk is going because he is fed up with Bercow and his style
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With polling like this it won't matter.state_go_away said:Paddypower now offering Ukip to get more than 23 euro seats at 5/6 . (originally set bar at over 24) .seems at odds with recent poll moves? Is UKIP still facing trouble with that 'an independence from Europe' candidate?
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I've read it thanks.Life_ina_market_town said:
These dismissals are, in principle, entirely consistent with PC Rowland's account of the incident. That is why there are two contested actions for defamation in the Queen's Bench list. You should carefully read the Crown Prosecution Service's statement, dated 26 November 2013.JosiasJessop said:Another Plod sacked over Plebgate for gross misconduct:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27222171
Three down, how many more to come?
So many posters on here got this very, very wrong.
But three police officer sacked for misconduct.
Enough said.0 -
Guineas, naturallyTheWatcher said:
Pre-decimalisation of course, though a hard core Kipper would expect to be paid in sovereigns.SimonStClare said:
'Euros' bah humbug - a true Englishman would ask for nothing less than pounds sterling. ; )isam said:
You are Barbara Roche and I claim my 5 EurosTheWatcher said:
... who don't like dem foreigners.isam said:
'the difference is that UKIP stand up for British people of all hues...'corporeal said:
Poor UKIP, even the BNP are attacking them in their election broadcast.isam said:
This should be media training in how not to deal with UKIPSouthamObserver said:
It's no stranger than Nigel Farage's definition of race.AndyJS said:Barbara Roche on Newsnight yesterday seemed to have a strange definition of the word "racist". As far as I know, Romanians aren't a different race to British people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am2-fVIkf8I0
