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I just know the name. It could be a hopscotch-tournament for all I know otherwise. It is not etched in our memories.tyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it0 -
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.0 -
Yes, by definition we are going to "get over" anything which doesn't have a death rate approaching 100%. What is your point?HYUFD said:
Spanish flu had a 20% death rate, not 2% like coronavirus and we got over thattyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it0 -
Spanish flu had a less than 2% death rate- and it infected about 60-80% of the world......HYUFD said:
Spanish flu had a 20% death rate, not 2% like coronavirus and we got over thattyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it
Coronavirus is a horrific disease....70% may get mild symptoms....but 30% of the infected will almost certainly think they are dying in the most horrible circumstances because they cannot breathe....
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So for 80% ie the vast majority hospital treatment is irrelevant, for the remaining 20% hospital treatment might help but they are more likely to be over 80 and not far from death anywayFoxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.0 -
Well now - this - https://publicappointments.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/appointment/lay-members-committee-on-standards/ - sounds really quite interesting.2
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No, Spanish flu had a 10 to 20% death ratetyson said:
Spanish flu had a less than 2% death rate- and it infected about 60-80% of the world......HYUFD said:
Spanish flu had a 20% death rate, not 2% like coronavirus and we got over thattyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it
Coronavirus is a horrific disease....70% may get mild symptoms....but 30% of the infected will almost certainly think they are dying in the most horrible circumstances because they cannot breathe....
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Spanish-Flu-pandemic-of-1918/0 -
When I'm getting a common cold, I use eardrops made of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water. The hydrogen peroxide bubbles a lot and tickles. The sensation is not unlike a wax softening ear drop. You let it do its thing for a minute or so, then drain it on a tissue and do the other ear. Kills the cold stone dead. Only had it fail once when I didn't catch it early enough.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
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The virus in itself is not the biggest problem it is the impact on the health system that is the problem. If you were waiting for cancer surgery and post operative treatment you would, like me, be praying that the system does not collapse. It is not just a few old buggies will die it’s the impact on everything else.mHYUFD said:
So for 80% ie the vast majority hospital treatment is irrelevant, for the remaining 20% hospital treatment might help but they are more likely to be over 80 and not far from death anywayFoxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.1 -
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.1 -
That's a heck of a dead cat Boris. Lots of newspaper headlines getting rewritten.0
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For most probably more effective than most other thingsLuckyguy1983 said:
When I'm getting a common cold, I use eardrops made of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water. The hydrogen peroxide bubbles a lot and tickles. The sensation is not unlike a wax softening ear drop. You let it do its thing for a minute or so, then drain it on a tissue and do the other ear. Kills the cold stone dead. Only had it fail once when I didn't catch it early enough.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
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Spanish Flu was rather different, but probably a worldwide infection rate of around 30% and mortality of 10%, so 3% of world population.tyson said:
Spanish flu had a less than 2% death rate- and it infected about 60-80% of the world......HYUFD said:
Spanish flu had a 20% death rate, not 2% like coronavirus and we got over thattyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it
Coronavirus is a horrific disease....70% may get mild symptoms....but 30% of the infected will almost certainly think they are dying in the most horrible circumstances because they cannot breathe....
Tasmania had very effective quarantine, not getting it until the 3rd wave. Samoa the worst, though parts of Alaska were higher.
Lockdowns and social isolation are the order of the day, so the survivors will be Montana Survivalist Militias, Japanese gamers, and of course PB.0 -
Foxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.
it's about 30-40% in Italy requiring hospitalisation....but will probably get less as those with mild symptoms will not be tested or counted.....so 20% is right...
I'm trying to work out what planet HYFUD is on.
China's get on top of it (maybe) with draconian measures....0 -
Not to mention good sleep is probably second to hand washing in avoiding the virus. Id imagine continuing your everyday life is far superior for sleep than entering a state of hyper anxiety.HYUFD said:
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.1 -
So make clear then the vast majority who get it should stay home and not bother their local hospital and stay in bed and drink broth unless they are elderly and really need treatmentnichomar said:
The virus in itself is not the biggest problem it is the impact on the health system that is the problem. If you were waiting for cancer surgery and post operative treatment you would, like me, be praying that the system does not collapse. It is not just a few old buggies will die it’s the impact on everything else.mHYUFD said:
So for 80% ie the vast majority hospital treatment is irrelevant, for the remaining 20% hospital treatment might help but they are more likely to be over 80 and not far from death anywayFoxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.0 -
The morbidly obese with their cpap machines will outlive us all.eadric said:
Wuhan has managed to keep the infection rate lower, but only with draconian quarantine.Foxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.
But yeah, we will run out of respirators.0 -
Nonsense.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
We have our flu jabs each year and I have had a pneumonia one as well
If you are talking of covid 19 then a vaccine will be forthcoming at some point0 -
They clean ambulances with hydrogen peroxide. It's an extremely effective killer of pathogens. It lets rip oxygen all over them. Nobody is sure why eardrops are said to work, but ear nose and throat are all related aren't they? Possible the cold lodges in there in the beginning.HYUFD said:
For most probably more effective than most other thingsLuckyguy1983 said:
When I'm getting a common cold, I use eardrops made of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water. The hydrogen peroxide bubbles a lot and tickles. The sensation is not unlike a wax softening ear drop. You let it do its thing for a minute or so, then drain it on a tissue and do the other ear. Kills the cold stone dead. Only had it fail once when I didn't catch it early enough.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
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Is iteadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2IuJPh6h_A
Or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2naLJABWNM
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You’ve staked your ground.0 -
It's a west coast problem at the moment.rcs1000 said:
He clearly genuinely believes Coronavirus is a hoax.HYUFD said:Trump trolling Democrats with a big South Carolina rally ahead of the Democratic primary in the state tonight
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1233788838755151872?s=20
I hope he's right.0 -
That shouldn't be that surprising: simply, there's no point in BA creating a London City to London Heathrow route, as the distances are simply too small.Sandpit said:
Both KLM and Emirates connect more UK destinations to their hubs than BA do into LHR. BA need that third runway open yesterday.ManchesterKurt said:
From memory Heathrow has connections to 7 other UK airports, Manchester is connected to 13 and Schipol 21.eek said:
Nor one where half the country can't actually fly into it for onward flights - For me Schipol is the only option.. Thankfully I didn't finish booking Milan at Easter..Sandpit said:Just build the bloody runway, and if they have to pass new legislation first then do that. Over a decade of talking about it so far, the only winner is Schipol until they start digging.
A global player needs a global transit hub, not one where half the short-haul programme gets binned on a foggy day.
Schipol is the natural hub for the majority of the UK and if connecting at a hub is good enough for those of us away from London then surely it can be for those in London as well.0 -
It’s a bit below your usual day rate, but you know you want to!Cyclefree said:Well now - this - https://publicappointments.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/appointment/lay-members-committee-on-standards/ - sounds really quite interesting.
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Apocalypse incoming, Liverpool are going to lose a PL match0
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I think one thing that is worth mentioning re rate dates etc, even without a vaccine we are still at the stages were best practice is still been established.
A lot of things that will be tried on people will just be guessing at what is probably a good approach.0 -
Nah, the more rational approach is to get out and enjoy life before it hits.eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
Watford fans certainly enjoying their evening!1 -
Your approach is admirably clear: either hyufd dies, omg and how terrible, or hyufd doesn't die and everything is hunky dory, the end. That's fine, but the large majority of us are less obsessed with our own personal survival, and are interested in the many very significant ways in which hunky doriness is going to dip below 100% in the foreseeable future, whether we survive or not. You may not be interested in that conversation, but that isn't a reason for trying to shut it down.HYUFD said:
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.0 -
I want a fund manager who can short airlines and go long mask manufacturers.eadric said:
There's gonna be a big demand for broth. Go long on broth stocks.HYUFD said:
So make clear then the vast majority who get it should stay home and not bother their local hospital and stay in bed and drink broth unless they are elderly and really need treatmentnichomar said:
The virus in itself is not the biggest problem it is the impact on the health system that is the problem. If you were waiting for cancer surgery and post operative treatment you would, like me, be praying that the system does not collapse. It is not just a few old buggies will die it’s the impact on everything else.mHYUFD said:
So for 80% ie the vast majority hospital treatment is irrelevant, for the remaining 20% hospital treatment might help but they are more likely to be over 80 and not far from death anywayFoxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.0 -
I agree.....but I doubt the Champions League is going to reach it's conclusion this year and City are nailed on.....Foxy said:
Nah, the more rational approach is to get out and enjoy life before it hits.eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
Watford fans certainly enjoying their evening!0 -
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There's a certain irony here: the more your supporters love you and flock to see you, the more likely they (and the candidate) are to end up sick.eadric said:
He had a big rally in a large enclosed space even as lethal coronavirus starts slaughtering Americans?rcs1000 said:
He clearly genuinely believes Coronavirus is a hoax.HYUFD said:Trump trolling Democrats with a big South Carolina rally ahead of the Democratic primary in the state tonight
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1233788838755151872?s=20
I hope he's right.
Interesting electoral tactic. Infect and kill thousands of your own activists and supporters.
By contrast, if you are a dull and plodding speaker suffering from clear signs of mental decline, barely anyone turns up to see you speak.
Biden could be in with a shout here...1 -
He has a 13 year old son, that's probably why he's still working at the age of 88.FrancisUrquhart said:
Didn't Des O'Connor have a kid in his 70s?noneoftheabove said:
Imagine turning 18 and having a 73/4 year old Boris as your dad. Or don't......HYUFD said:
Congrats to them both, will be the first new baby in No 10 since Blair.FrancisUrquhart said:So how many kids does that make it for Boris?
https://twitter.com/PA/status/1233806817026805762?s=20
Boris is 55 so will be very much an older father to his latest child, Carrie is only 31 though and will be her first child. Trump was even older at 60 when Melania had Barron, so Boris again following The Donald
Bloke in India who died the other day, fathered two kids in his 90's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjit_Raghav
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No, that's cherrypicked data. Graph the UK's data.eadric said:France is following the exact path of previous outbreaks
https://twitter.com/oli3be/status/1233823800338403331?s=20
The pattern will repeat everywhere.0 -
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I dont think it is. The word 'flu' is thrown around interchangeably with a common winter cold. "its only the flu" say many people on social media.tyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it
I'm not sure if I have ever had the flu, have had dozens of colds. The last one was possibly the worst I have had a few months ago where i felt utterly awful for a week. But i took no more medication than paracetamol and bed rest.
The word has little fear.0 -
Flu jabs do not guarantee you will not get flu, they just boost your immunity a little, they are irrelevant once you have caught fluBig_G_NorthWales said:
Nonsense.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
We have our flu jabs each year and I have had a pneumonia one as well
If you are talking of covid 19 then a vaccine will be forthcoming at some point0 -
OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOOOODDDDD!!!!
We've run out of beer in the Casino household.0 -
Happily walking about is part of the practical solution to limit the drop in hunky doriness. It is the rational and helpful approach at the moment. It may change as more people get infected.IshmaelZ said:
Your approach is admirably clear: either hyufd dies, omg and how terrible, or hyufd doesn't die and everything is hunky dory, the end. That's fine, but the large majority of us are less obsessed with our own personal survival, and are interested in the many very significant ways in which hunky doriness is going to dip below 100% in the foreseeable future, whether we survive or not. You may not be interested in that conversation, but that isn't a reason for trying to shut it down.HYUFD said:
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
Hyper anxiety achieves little positive and plenty negative.0 -
Well just give visiting granny a miss then while coronavirus is around and phone her insteadeadric said:
Because they can still catch it, carry it, give it to older people, people with other health issues, kill their grannies, and so on and so forth. Fear will grip us all, and for good reason, because it is scary. See the many many videos out of Wuhan.HYUFD said:
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
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No, but places like Birmingham, Exeter, Cardiff and Bristol would support flights into Heathrow if there were more slots available. Currently anyone living in those cities goes through Amsterdam instead.rcs1000 said:
That shouldn't be that surprising: simply, there's no point in BA creating a London City to London Heathrow route, as the distances are simply too small.Sandpit said:
Both KLM and Emirates connect more UK destinations to their hubs than BA do into LHR. BA need that third runway open yesterday.ManchesterKurt said:
From memory Heathrow has connections to 7 other UK airports, Manchester is connected to 13 and Schipol 21.eek said:
Nor one where half the country can't actually fly into it for onward flights - For me Schipol is the only option.. Thankfully I didn't finish booking Milan at Easter..Sandpit said:Just build the bloody runway, and if they have to pass new legislation first then do that. Over a decade of talking about it so far, the only winner is Schipol until they start digging.
A global player needs a global transit hub, not one where half the short-haul programme gets binned on a foggy day.
Schipol is the natural hub for the majority of the UK and if connecting at a hub is good enough for those of us away from London then surely it can be for those in London as well.0 -
I understand they try to predict the strains and give out specific immunisations against only those strains.HYUFD said:
Flu jabs do not guarantee you will not get flu, they just boost your immunity a little, they are irrelevant once you have caught fluBig_G_NorthWales said:
Nonsense.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
We have our flu jabs each year and I have had a pneumonia one as well
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If you’ve had flu, you’ll know you had it. A cold is irritating, flu is absolutely debilitating.northernpowerhouse2 said:
I dont think it is. The word 'flu' is thrown around interchangeably with a common winter cold. "its only the flu" say many people on social media.tyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it
I'm not sure if I have ever had the flu, have had dozens of colds. The last one was possibly the worst I have had a few months ago where i felt utterly awful for a week. But i took no more medication than paracetamol and bed rest.
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No such problems in Chez Urquhart....along with all the Brexit stockpiling of bog roll, Mrs U ensured that we are still well stocked with vino and beer.Casino_Royale said:OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOOOODDDDD!!!!
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Both @tyson and I hope President Trump is right, because the alternative is that 10s of millions of Americans suffer from an incredibly serious and debilitating illness.eadric said:
Listen to yourself. You're literally using the words "I hope Trump is right"tyson said:
A virus outbreak will be fucking horrific......in Italy 30% require hospitalisation.....HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
the fear and chaos a wider outbreak will create is unthinkable....I hope Trump is right
PS: not meaning to be rude! But as a rule of thumb, "Trump is wrong" is a good one
But I fear he is not. The evidence from around the world is growing, and there are almost certainly thousands of Americans spreading the disease without realising they have it.
And for those of you who think the Summer season and warmer weather solves it, look at Iran. It's been in the mid-20s in Iran, and it's clearly not under control there.0 -
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WWBADQuincel said:
I want a fund manager who can short airlines and go long mask manufacturers.eadric said:
There's gonna be a big demand for broth. Go long on broth stocks.HYUFD said:
So make clear then the vast majority who get it should stay home and not bother their local hospital and stay in bed and drink broth unless they are elderly and really need treatmentnichomar said:
The virus in itself is not the biggest problem it is the impact on the health system that is the problem. If you were waiting for cancer surgery and post operative treatment you would, like me, be praying that the system does not collapse. It is not just a few old buggies will die it’s the impact on everything else.mHYUFD said:
So for 80% ie the vast majority hospital treatment is irrelevant, for the remaining 20% hospital treatment might help but they are more likely to be over 80 and not far from death anywayFoxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.
What Would Bobby Axlerod Do...0 -
You actually believe the UK data? It’s all about who travelled where at the moment, nothing to do with control or superior management.Philip_Thompson said:
No, that's cherrypicked data. Graph the UK's data.eadric said:France is following the exact path of previous outbreaks
https://twitter.com/oli3be/status/1233823800338403331?s=20
The pattern will repeat everywhere.0 -
Of course not but they are preventative and save thousands of livesHYUFD said:
Flu jabs do not guarantee you will not get flu, they just boost your immunity a little, they are irrelevant once you have caught fluBig_G_NorthWales said:
Nonsense.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
We have our flu jabs each year and I have had a pneumonia one as well
If you are talking of covid 19 then a vaccine will be forthcoming at some point
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Well every Arsenal fan is celebrating today.1
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Watford 3 up !!!!!0
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I had a feeling that Watford would be Liverpool’s banana skin.0
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Correct, but I don't see any hyper anxiety here (either overt or inadequately concealed). Just people who are interested in what's going on.noneoftheabove said:
Happily walking about is part of the practical solution to limit the drop in hunky doriness. It is the rational and helpful approach at the moment. It may change as more people get infected.IshmaelZ said:
Your approach is admirably clear: either hyufd dies, omg and how terrible, or hyufd doesn't die and everything is hunky dory, the end. That's fine, but the large majority of us are less obsessed with our own personal survival, and are interested in the many very significant ways in which hunky doriness is going to dip below 100% in the foreseeable future, whether we survive or not. You may not be interested in that conversation, but that isn't a reason for trying to shut it down.HYUFD said:
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
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There are two records at risk - the scoring in every game in a season is actually the more impressive one - but everyone remembers the unbeaten one.Philip_Thompson said:Well every Arsenal fan is celebrating today.
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I contracted pneumonia a couple of years ago. I went from extremely fit and healthy to struggling to make it up the stairs in less than 2 days.matt said:
If you’ve had flu, you’ll know you had it. A cold is irritating, flu is absolutely debilitating.northernpowerhouse2 said:
I dont think it is. The word 'flu' is thrown around interchangeably with a common winter cold. "its only the flu" say many people on social media.tyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it
I'm not sure if I have ever had the flu, have had dozens of colds. The last one was possibly the worst I have had a few months ago where i felt utterly awful for a week. But i took no more medication than paracetamol and bed rest.
The word has little fear.
For about 3 days, it felt like I was a) what I imagine it is like stuck in the Sahara in the middle of the summer and b) like somebody was sitting on my chest 24/7. And I dropped nearly a stone in weight in 2 weeks.
It was an extremely scary experience.0 -
Didn't want to go the season unbeaten anyway.0
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Its entirely to do with control or superior management. We've found the people who've traveled and got the illness, traced them and put them into isolation as required.nichomar said:
You actually believe the UK data? It’s all about who travelled where at the moment, nothing to do with control or superior management.Philip_Thompson said:
No, that's cherrypicked data. Graph the UK's data.eadric said:France is following the exact path of previous outbreaks
https://twitter.com/oli3be/status/1233823800338403331?s=20
The pattern will repeat everywhere.
The NHS and government have done a fantastic job so far.2 -
You are all heartHYUFD said:
Well just give visiting granny a miss then while coronavirus is around and phone her insteadeadric said:
Because they can still catch it, carry it, give it to older people, people with other health issues, kill their grannies, and so on and so forth. Fear will grip us all, and for good reason, because it is scary. See the many many videos out of Wuhan.HYUFD said:
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
I'm not sure you understand human emotions, or indeed humans.1 -
When we did it, Fergie said we drew too many games!TheScreamingEagles said:Didn't want to go the season unbeaten anyway.
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Yeah, the pay is rubbish. But I really might go for this one. Of course, I’ve probably nixed it now by mentioning it.Sandpit said:
It’s a bit below your usual day rate, but you know you want to!Cyclefree said:Well now - this - https://publicappointments.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/appointment/lay-members-committee-on-standards/ - sounds really quite interesting.
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what a load of absolute bolloxeadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
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To be fair that's entirely true. Liverpool's season will almost certainly be more impressive in the round than the Invincibles season was. Indeed Liverpool's losing season last year was more impressive than that.tlg86 said:
When we did it, Fergie said we drew too many games!TheScreamingEagles said:Didn't want to go the season unbeaten anyway.
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https://twitter.com/FootyHumour/status/1233831275372466181tlg86 said:
When we did it, Fergie said we drew too many games!TheScreamingEagles said:Didn't want to go the season unbeaten anyway.
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Do not forget City fans...and our 18 runPhilip_Thompson said:Well every Arsenal fan is celebrating today.
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We've still gotten to 18 too though.tyson said:
Do not forget City fans...and our 18 runPhilip_Thompson said:Well every Arsenal fan is celebrating today.
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It is no coincidence we're playing shit because Lovren has made his first PL start in three months.0
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I don't think those would have any effect. I was under the impression if it got serious enough you'd need oxygen and a ventilator, tube directly into the lungs.northernpowerhouse2 said:
The morbidly obese with their cpap machines will outlive us all.eadric said:
Wuhan has managed to keep the infection rate lower, but only with draconian quarantine.Foxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.
But yeah, we will run out of respirators.0 -
Well you can believe what you want but they have done absolutely nothing to limit the spread. Than over countries.Philip_Thompson said:
Its entirely to do with control or superior management. We've found the people who've traveled and got the illness, traced them and put them into isolation as required.nichomar said:
You actually believe the UK data? It’s all about who travelled where at the moment, nothing to do with control or superior management.Philip_Thompson said:
No, that's cherrypicked data. Graph the UK's data.eadric said:France is following the exact path of previous outbreaks
https://twitter.com/oli3be/status/1233823800338403331?s=20
The pattern will repeat everywhere.
The NHS and government have done a fantastic job so far.0 -
I have two lovely cans of Beavertown Gamma Ray in the fridge and I’m very much looking forward to getting stuck in.Casino_Royale said:OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOOOODDDDD!!!!
We've run out of beer in the Casino household.2 -
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I think it's very difficult to compare teams across seasons. If I was being honest I'd say Chelsea 2004-06 are probably the best team I've seen.Philip_Thompson said:
To be fair that's entirely true. Liverpool's season will almost certainly be more impressive in the round than the Invincibles season was. Indeed Liverpool's losing season last year was more impressive than that.tlg86 said:
When we did it, Fergie said we drew too many games!TheScreamingEagles said:Didn't want to go the season unbeaten anyway.
It's more about achievements. The reason the unbeaten season in 2003-04 was so sweet is that at the start of the previous season, Wenger was asked if he thought Arsenal could do it that season. He said yes and Wayne Rooney made him look foolish.
But, I actually think scoring in every game of a season - as Arsenal did in 2001-02 is more impressive. Not even Man City in 2017-18 did that.0 -
But...you are not beating it.....Philip_Thompson said:
We've still gotten to 18 too though.tyson said:
Do not forget City fans...and our 18 runPhilip_Thompson said:Well every Arsenal fan is celebrating today.
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Now that is what you call a pandemicCasino_Royale said:OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOOOODDDDD!!!!
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Stated like a true Liverpool fan.....in unison Lovren will bee persona non gratis in Liverpool tonight....TheScreamingEagles said:It is no coincidence we're playing shit because Lovren has made his first PL start in three months.
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I would expect obstructive sleep apnoea to be a significant adverse risk factor because of the strong association with diabetes, hypertension and cardiovascular disease. I wouldn't expect CPAP to completely counteract that.kyf_100 said:
I don't think those would have any effect. I was under the impression if it got serious enough you'd need oxygen and a ventilator, tube directly into the lungs.northernpowerhouse2 said:
The morbidly obese with their cpap machines will outlive us all.eadric said:
Wuhan has managed to keep the infection rate lower, but only with draconian quarantine.Foxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.
But yeah, we will run out of respirators.0 -
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Agreed.Sandpit said:
No, but places like Birmingham, Exeter, Cardiff and Bristol would support flights into Heathrow if there were more slots available. Currently anyone living in those cities goes through Amsterdam instead.rcs1000 said:
That shouldn't be that surprising: simply, there's no point in BA creating a London City to London Heathrow route, as the distances are simply too small.Sandpit said:
Both KLM and Emirates connect more UK destinations to their hubs than BA do into LHR. BA need that third runway open yesterday.ManchesterKurt said:
From memory Heathrow has connections to 7 other UK airports, Manchester is connected to 13 and Schipol 21.eek said:
Nor one where half the country can't actually fly into it for onward flights - For me Schipol is the only option.. Thankfully I didn't finish booking Milan at Easter..Sandpit said:Just build the bloody runway, and if they have to pass new legislation first then do that. Over a decade of talking about it so far, the only winner is Schipol until they start digging.
A global player needs a global transit hub, not one where half the short-haul programme gets binned on a foggy day.
Schipol is the natural hub for the majority of the UK and if connecting at a hub is good enough for those of us away from London then surely it can be for those in London as well.
But take Bristol as an example. It's an hour and 45 minutes from Heathrow. To be a useful feeder for BA's international network you'd need to have regular flights (otherwise passengers are going to have to wait a couple of hours to transfer). And I just don't see the demand for 8 to 10 flights from Bristol to London a day. Even if Heathrow was expanded, I just don't see the demand.
While Bristol to Amsterdam... there's almost certainly some latent (non-transfer) demand. There's no alternative way of getting between the two places. You can see a reasonable number of flights.
If you added more slots for BA at Heathrow, it would help. But I'm not sure how much.0 -
Now about that bleach drinking..Luckyguy1983 said:
When I'm getting a common cold, I use eardrops made of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water. The hydrogen peroxide bubbles a lot and tickles. The sensation is not unlike a wax softening ear drop. You let it do its thing for a minute or so, then drain it on a tissue and do the other ear. Kills the cold stone dead. Only had it fail once when I didn't catch it early enough.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
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It certainly floored me.matt said:
If you’ve had flu, you’ll know you had it. A cold is irritating, flu is absolutely debilitating.northernpowerhouse2 said:
I dont think it is. The word 'flu' is thrown around interchangeably with a common winter cold. "its only the flu" say many people on social media.tyson said:eadric said:
HYUFD believes that in the UK we will be perfectly fine with 250,000 dead and 1.5m in intensive care, because "500,000 die in a normal year". So we will barely notice.Gallowgate said:
Oh well that’s okay then. No political consequences.HYUFD said:
Given the average life expectancy in the US is 79 most of them would have already lived longer than the national average anywayGallowgate said:
12m Americans are over 80 so that’s a good 1.2m deaths.HYUFD said:
The death rate for coronavirus is under 0.5% for under 50s, it only rises to more than 10% even amongst over 80s so that is not going to happenwilliamglenn said:
You think he’ll do an Iraqi Information Minister act and tell people there’s no virus as people are dropping down dead all around him?HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
The 1918 Spanish flu is still etched into our collective memory- it's a 100 years ago- and we all know about it
I'm not sure if I have ever had the flu, have had dozens of colds. The last one was possibly the worst I have had a few months ago where i felt utterly awful for a week. But i took no more medication than paracetamol and bed rest.
The word has little fear.0 -
Which football team did you play for?tlg86 said:
When we did it, Fergie said we drew too many games!TheScreamingEagles said:Didn't want to go the season unbeaten anyway.
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10 minutes later?Gallowgate said:
I have two lovely cans of Beavertown Gamma Ray in the fridge and I’m very much looking forward to getting stuck in.Casino_Royale said:OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOOOODDDDD!!!!
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In the [near] immortal words of the Blessed St. Margaret - We have become a family!FrancisUrquhart said:On a lighter note...
https://twitter.com/mocent0/status/1233824845974188032?s=20
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Amongst all the talk about infrastructure projects, it amazes me that we don't have plans for western access to Heathrow from the GWML. Bristol to Heathrow by train would be very quick.rcs1000 said:
Agreed.Sandpit said:
No, but places like Birmingham, Exeter, Cardiff and Bristol would support flights into Heathrow if there were more slots available. Currently anyone living in those cities goes through Amsterdam instead.rcs1000 said:
That shouldn't be that surprising: simply, there's no point in BA creating a London City to London Heathrow route, as the distances are simply too small.Sandpit said:
Both KLM and Emirates connect more UK destinations to their hubs than BA do into LHR. BA need that third runway open yesterday.ManchesterKurt said:
From memory Heathrow has connections to 7 other UK airports, Manchester is connected to 13 and Schipol 21.eek said:
Nor one where half the country can't actually fly into it for onward flights - For me Schipol is the only option.. Thankfully I didn't finish booking Milan at Easter..Sandpit said:Just build the bloody runway, and if they have to pass new legislation first then do that. Over a decade of talking about it so far, the only winner is Schipol until they start digging.
A global player needs a global transit hub, not one where half the short-haul programme gets binned on a foggy day.
Schipol is the natural hub for the majority of the UK and if connecting at a hub is good enough for those of us away from London then surely it can be for those in London as well.
But take Bristol as an example. It's an hour and 45 minutes from Heathrow. To be a useful feeder for BA's international network you'd need to have regular flights (otherwise passengers are going to have to wait a couple of hours to transfer). And I just don't see the demand for 8 to 10 flights from Bristol to London a day. Even if Heathrow was expanded, I just don't see the demand.
While Bristol to Amsterdam... there's almost certainly some latent (non-transfer) demand. There's no alternative way of getting between the two places. You can see a reasonable number of flights.
If you added more slots for BA at Heathrow, it would help. But I'm not sure how much.2 -
99.5% is 1/200 people die.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You are all heartHYUFD said:
Well just give visiting granny a miss then while coronavirus is around and phone her insteadeadric said:
Because they can still catch it, carry it, give it to older people, people with other health issues, kill their grannies, and so on and so forth. Fear will grip us all, and for good reason, because it is scary. See the many many videos out of Wuhan.HYUFD said:
They could cross the road and get run over, you take a risk every day you walk out of the house, if they are under 50 even if they get cv they are 99.5% likely to recover so why shouldn't they go out?eadric said:What's amazing is that there are people out there happily walking about, who are unaware that this out-of-control locomotive is hurtling towards us.
Many don't have a clue.
I'm not sure you understand human emotions, or indeed humans.
You go into your local pub and tell them that 1 in 200 of them will die in next three months.
As @eadric says, it is about emotion.
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A curious coincidence is the origin of the word quarantine comes from Venice putting ships from China into a 40 day (quaranta) isolation. Trading routes dont seem to have changed much despite flight and high speed rail!0
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Idiot. Yeah, sure, identifying and isolating those who're carrying the disease has done "absolutely nothing to limit the spread".nichomar said:
Well you can believe what you want but they have done absolutely nothing to limit the spread. Than over countries.Philip_Thompson said:
Its entirely to do with control or superior management. We've found the people who've traveled and got the illness, traced them and put them into isolation as required.nichomar said:
You actually believe the UK data? It’s all about who travelled where at the moment, nothing to do with control or superior management.Philip_Thompson said:
No, that's cherrypicked data. Graph the UK's data.eadric said:France is following the exact path of previous outbreaks
https://twitter.com/oli3be/status/1233823800338403331?s=20
The pattern will repeat everywhere.
The NHS and government have done a fantastic job so far.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Rail_Approach_to_Heathrowtlg86 said:
Amongst all the talk about infrastructure projects, it amazes me that we don't have plans for western access to Heathrow from the GWML. Bristol to Heathrow by train would be very quick.rcs1000 said:
Agreed.Sandpit said:
No, but places like Birmingham, Exeter, Cardiff and Bristol would support flights into Heathrow if there were more slots available. Currently anyone living in those cities goes through Amsterdam instead.rcs1000 said:
That shouldn't be that surprising: simply, there's no point in BA creating a London City to London Heathrow route, as the distances are simply too small.Sandpit said:
Both KLM and Emirates connect more UK destinations to their hubs than BA do into LHR. BA need that third runway open yesterday.ManchesterKurt said:
From memory Heathrow has connections to 7 other UK airports, Manchester is connected to 13 and Schipol 21.eek said:
Nor one where half the country can't actually fly into it for onward flights - For me Schipol is the only option.. Thankfully I didn't finish booking Milan at Easter..Sandpit said:Just build the bloody runway, and if they have to pass new legislation first then do that. Over a decade of talking about it so far, the only winner is Schipol until they start digging.
A global player needs a global transit hub, not one where half the short-haul programme gets binned on a foggy day.
Schipol is the natural hub for the majority of the UK and if connecting at a hub is good enough for those of us away from London then surely it can be for those in London as well.
But take Bristol as an example. It's an hour and 45 minutes from Heathrow. To be a useful feeder for BA's international network you'd need to have regular flights (otherwise passengers are going to have to wait a couple of hours to transfer). And I just don't see the demand for 8 to 10 flights from Bristol to London a day. Even if Heathrow was expanded, I just don't see the demand.
While Bristol to Amsterdam... there's almost certainly some latent (non-transfer) demand. There's no alternative way of getting between the two places. You can see a reasonable number of flights.
If you added more slots for BA at Heathrow, it would help. But I'm not sure how much.0 -
Why are we wasting time reporting on a serial, lying sex maniac when so much else is happening? The offspring will be lucky to see its father as he moves on to the next shagGIN1138 said:
In the [near] immortal words of the Blessed St. Margaret - We have become a family!FrancisUrquhart said:On a lighter note...
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Brighthouse in a bad way...
https://news.sky.com/story/rent-to-own-giant-brighthouse-on-brink-of-collapse-119461150 -
Thank you for the view from Spain.nichomar said:
Why are we wasting time reporting on a serial, lying sex maniac when so much else is happening? The offspring will be lucky to see its father as he moves on to the next shagGIN1138 said:
In the [near] immortal words of the Blessed St. Margaret - We have become a family!FrancisUrquhart said:On a lighter note...
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It's just great to have something as easily quanitfiable as going the season unbeaten next to our name. Sure other teams have got more points in other seasons or whatever but, luckily for Arsenal fans, to be "The Invincibles" is still better.tlg86 said:
I think it's very difficult to compare teams across seasons. If I was being honest I'd say Chelsea 2004-06 are probably the best team I've seen.Philip_Thompson said:
To be fair that's entirely true. Liverpool's season will almost certainly be more impressive in the round than the Invincibles season was. Indeed Liverpool's losing season last year was more impressive than that.tlg86 said:
When we did it, Fergie said we drew too many games!TheScreamingEagles said:Didn't want to go the season unbeaten anyway.
It's more about achievements. The reason the unbeaten season in 2003-04 was so sweet is that at the start of the previous season, Wenger was asked if he thought Arsenal could do it that season. He said yes and Wayne Rooney made him look foolish.
But, I actually think scoring in every game of a season - as Arsenal did in 2001-02 is more impressive. Not even Man City in 2017-18 did that.
Nice to have something to smile about
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Kinder, gentler politics on show !!!!nichomar said:
Why are we wasting time reporting on a serial, lying sex maniac when so much else is happening? The offspring will be lucky to see its father as he moves on to the next shagGIN1138 said:
In the [near] immortal words of the Blessed St. Margaret - We have become a family!FrancisUrquhart said:On a lighter note...
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Some young, healthy people I work with were discussing buying cpap machines and oxygen concentrators "just in case" earlier this week.Foxy said:
I would expect obstructive sleep apnoea to be a significant adverse risk factor because of the strong association with diabetes, hypertension and cardiovascular disease. I wouldn't expect CPAP to completely counteract that.kyf_100 said:
I don't think those would have any effect. I was under the impression if it got serious enough you'd need oxygen and a ventilator, tube directly into the lungs.northernpowerhouse2 said:
The morbidly obese with their cpap machines will outlive us all.eadric said:
Wuhan has managed to keep the infection rate lower, but only with draconian quarantine.Foxy said:
Er, no!HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recoveryMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
While 80% have minor problems, the other 20% have much more significant disease, and 10% require critical care with ventilatory and cardiovascular support. Those patients are very likely to die without.
But yeah, we will run out of respirators.
I told them if it got to the point where they needed ventilation if they couldn't get into hospital they might as well kiss their arses goodbye.
But that goes to show you the level of hysteria that is out there. And no, I don't work with Eadric...0 -
You do realise that people who die from the flu don't necessarily die from the flu? They can die due to things like pneumonia that it causes.HYUFD said:
Anyone with half a brain knows there is no drug cure for flu, same with coronavirus, Lemsip and paracetamol ease the symptoms they do not cure it, there is no surgery for it either, you just have to ride it outIshmaelZ said:
Great Heavens, HYUFD, I had no idea you were a medical man.HYUFD said:
Hospital treatment will have near zero impact on coronavirus recovery, the vast majority who get it are far betting lying in bed at home with hot broth and the vast majority of them will then recoverMexicanpete said:
If people start dropping like flies because they have little or no access to free Medicare, and Trump continues to complain that Coronavirus is all fake news, the ghost of Osama Bin Laden would beat him.HYUFD said:
I doubt it, especially as the left-wing Sanders is his likely opponent and he can state his hardline border control policy reduces the risks of coronavirus entering the USAeadric said:I reckon Trump is doomed now.
Do you believe pneumonia is best treated with Lemsip and paracetamol?0 -
Yes, you’d want to use a smaller plane and a more frequent schedule the closer your airports are to each other, otherwise people will find it easier to go by car or train instead. Heathrow’s public transport links are terrible if you’re not going to central London though, and the parking is either really expensive or miles away.rcs1000 said:
Agreed.Sandpit said:
No, but places like Birmingham, Exeter, Cardiff and Bristol would support flights into Heathrow if there were more slots available. Currently anyone living in those cities goes through Amsterdam instead.rcs1000 said:
That shouldn't be that surprising: simply, there's no point in BA creating a London City to London Heathrow route, as the distances are simply too small.Sandpit said:
Both KLM and Emirates connect more UK destinations to their hubs than BA do into LHR. BA need that third runway open yesterday.ManchesterKurt said:
From memory Heathrow has connections to 7 other UK airports, Manchester is connected to 13 and Schipol 21.eek said:
Nor one where half the country can't actually fly into it for onward flights - For me Schipol is the only option.. Thankfully I didn't finish booking Milan at Easter..Sandpit said:Just build the bloody runway, and if they have to pass new legislation first then do that. Over a decade of talking about it so far, the only winner is Schipol until they start digging.
A global player needs a global transit hub, not one where half the short-haul programme gets binned on a foggy day.
Schipol is the natural hub for the majority of the UK and if connecting at a hub is good enough for those of us away from London then surely it can be for those in London as well.
But take Bristol as an example. It's an hour and 45 minutes from Heathrow. To be a useful feeder for BA's international network you'd need to have regular flights (otherwise passengers are going to have to wait a couple of hours to transfer). And I just don't see the demand for 8 to 10 flights from Bristol to London a day. Even if Heathrow was expanded, I just don't see the demand.
While Bristol to Amsterdam... there's almost certainly some latent (non-transfer) demand. There's no alternative way of getting between the two places. You can see a reasonable number of flights.
If you added more slots for BA at Heathrow, it would help. But I'm not sure how much.
Every time I go through Amsterdam I look at the fleet of little Fokkers that KLM has going all over their short haul route. That’s how they feed all those 777s on the long haul routes. With a third runway BA could do the same.0 -
You are the moron let’s wait and see how they cope with those cases where the source is not obvious. I doubt that I’ve ever seen another true believer of this government who is so blind to its incompetence than you. The issue is that the UK has, at yet, very few cases that it has had to track. Let’s see how they do when there are fift that haven’t been to China,Karan etcPhilip_Thompson said:
Idiot. Yeah, sure, identifying and isolating those who're carrying the disease has done "absolutely nothing to limit the spread".nichomar said:
Well you can believe what you want but they have done absolutely nothing to limit the spread. Than over countries.Philip_Thompson said:
Its entirely to do with control or superior management. We've found the people who've traveled and got the illness, traced them and put them into isolation as required.nichomar said:
You actually believe the UK data? It’s all about who travelled where at the moment, nothing to do with control or superior management.Philip_Thompson said:
No, that's cherrypicked data. Graph the UK's data.eadric said:France is following the exact path of previous outbreaks
https://twitter.com/oli3be/status/1233823800338403331?s=20
The pattern will repeat everywhere.
The NHS and government have done a fantastic job so far.
Moron!
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