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What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
I had already backed Nandy at 6/1 and I’ve been concerned by the drift in her price. But Henry G has a great record on Labour Party matters - so I’ve gone in again at 12/1, (13/1 with Ladbrokes boost).
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We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
He works for the elected government. In the US all the top civil service jobs are awarded by the incoming presidential administrationrottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
Are we in the US now? Blimey, I missed that!HYUFD said:
He works for the elected government. In the US all the top civil service jobs are awarded by the incoming presidential administrationrottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.4 -
I am sure that Smeeth, Flint and Onn are greatly comforted by these words.another_richard said:
The Labour vote fell by 14.8% in Don Valley, one of the lowest in the 'mining belt'Foxy said:
I agree. Nandy has shown neither leadership nor charisma, and no Labour leaver will be Leave enough for the frothers, as Caroline Flint found out.HYUFD said:
She wouldn't, a lettuce has more personality and she voted against the Withdrawal Agreement on every occasion so has no real appeal to Leavers eitherMarqueeMark said:
I am on record as saying Nandy would be the most dangerous for the Tories to have to confront.kinabalu said:Nandy is my hunch too. Soft Left. Woman. Good on TV. Not much baggage. She touched crazy 50 type prices on Betfair earlier. I did not act sadly.
Starmer may well be good at fisking BoZo in parliament, but either Rayner or Jess would get my juices flowing.
By comparison Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper saw falls of over 20%.
If a dozen more Labour MPs had voted the same as Caroline Flint in the HoC then we wouldn't now have a Boris majority government.
I see very little evidence that collaborating with the Tories protected those Labour MPs.0 -
Yeah, weirdos as long as they went to the world's best universities and won't offend anyone who gets upset by gender identity blah blah.rottenborough said:
We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.
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Maybe in addition to an attempt at damage reduction, unsuccessfully, they did what they thought was right?Foxy said:
I am sure that Smeeth, Flint and Onn are greatly comforted by these words.another_richard said:
The Labour vote fell by 14.8% in Don Valley, one of the lowest in the 'mining belt'Foxy said:
I agree. Nandy has shown neither leadership nor charisma, and no Labour leaver will be Leave enough for the frothers, as Caroline Flint found out.HYUFD said:
She wouldn't, a lettuce has more personality and she voted against the Withdrawal Agreement on every occasion so has no real appeal to Leavers eitherMarqueeMark said:
I am on record as saying Nandy would be the most dangerous for the Tories to have to confront.kinabalu said:Nandy is my hunch too. Soft Left. Woman. Good on TV. Not much baggage. She touched crazy 50 type prices on Betfair earlier. I did not act sadly.
Starmer may well be good at fisking BoZo in parliament, but either Rayner or Jess would get my juices flowing.
By comparison Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper saw falls of over 20%.
If a dozen more Labour MPs had voted the same as Caroline Flint in the HoC then we wouldn't now have a Boris majority government.
I see very little evidence that collaborating with the Tories protected those Labour MPs.0 -
With full Sioux war-bonnet.rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.
That might be enough to make Cummings look twice at them. As they re-apply for their current job....2 -
I think The Thick of it needs to return with a Cummings character clashing with Malcolm.EPG said:
Yeah, weirdos as long as they went to the world's best universities and won't offend anyone who gets upset by gender identity blah blah.rottenborough said:
We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
He isn't. Spads aren't Civil Service, hence the fuss.rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
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I bet Classic Dom believes he always assiduously assess people only on the quality of their work and never on any non quantifiable features and absolutely not on what he thinks about them on a personal level.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.1 -
Thank you Henry G.
In response to your tip I backed Nandy at 18 and have now been able to lay her off at 12 to repair some of my Starmer hole.0 -
Yes, Like Grieve, Lee, etc.kle4 said:
Maybe in addition to an attempt at damage reduction, unsuccessfully, they did what they thought was right?Foxy said:
I am sure that Smeeth, Flint and Onn are greatly comforted by these words.another_richard said:
The Labour vote fell by 14.8% in Don Valley, one of the lowest in the 'mining belt'Foxy said:
I agree. Nandy has shown neither leadership nor charisma, and no Labour leaver will be Leave enough for the frothers, as Caroline Flint found out.HYUFD said:
She wouldn't, a lettuce has more personality and she voted against the Withdrawal Agreement on every occasion so has no real appeal to Leavers eitherMarqueeMark said:
I am on record as saying Nandy would be the most dangerous for the Tories to have to confront.kinabalu said:Nandy is my hunch too. Soft Left. Woman. Good on TV. Not much baggage. She touched crazy 50 type prices on Betfair earlier. I did not act sadly.
Starmer may well be good at fisking BoZo in parliament, but either Rayner or Jess would get my juices flowing.
By comparison Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper saw falls of over 20%.
If a dozen more Labour MPs had voted the same as Caroline Flint in the HoC then we wouldn't now have a Boris majority government.
I see very little evidence that collaborating with the Tories protected those Labour MPs.0 -
https://twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1212852934087761920
Yeh, that's right, Starmer was why Labour voters whose parents and grandparents had always voted Lab, turned away.
Naught to do with the Blessed Corbyn.1 -
Which gives him a justification to fire any potential threat or rival at any time.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.
*That's* office politics...0 -
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Perhaps they thought it was the right thing to do or maybe they realised what the consequences of a general election before Brexit had happened would be.Foxy said:
I am sure that Smeeth, Flint and Onn are greatly comforted by these words.another_richard said:
The Labour vote fell by 14.8% in Don Valley, one of the lowest in the 'mining belt'Foxy said:
I agree. Nandy has shown neither leadership nor charisma, and no Labour leaver will be Leave enough for the frothers, as Caroline Flint found out.HYUFD said:
She wouldn't, a lettuce has more personality and she voted against the Withdrawal Agreement on every occasion so has no real appeal to Leavers eitherMarqueeMark said:
I am on record as saying Nandy would be the most dangerous for the Tories to have to confront.kinabalu said:Nandy is my hunch too. Soft Left. Woman. Good on TV. Not much baggage. She touched crazy 50 type prices on Betfair earlier. I did not act sadly.
Starmer may well be good at fisking BoZo in parliament, but either Rayner or Jess would get my juices flowing.
By comparison Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper saw falls of over 20%.
If a dozen more Labour MPs had voted the same as Caroline Flint in the HoC then we wouldn't now have a Boris majority government.
I see very little evidence that collaborating with the Tories protected those Labour MPs.
If so they knew better than the bigoted fools who claimed that Labour MPs didn't need to worry about upsetting Leave voters because a majority of 2017 Labour voters in every constituency were Remainers.
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I think they already covered the Tory svengali with an obsession with weirdness and oppositional blue-sky thinking.rottenborough said:
I think The Thick of it needs to return with a Cummings character clashing with Malcolm.EPG said:
Yeah, weirdos as long as they went to the world's best universities and won't offend anyone who gets upset by gender identity blah blah.rottenborough said:
We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.1 -
Keir appears to be Starming ahead.1
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Yup, get on the right side of the right people, that's always the game plan at any company. Also, learn when and how to say no to senior management. Those are my two tips for getting ahead in life.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.0 -
Stewart is positively Northcote-Trevelyan compared to Cummings.EPG said:
I think they already covered the Tory svengali with an obsession with weirdness and oppositional blue-sky thinking.rottenborough said:
I think The Thick of it needs to return with a Cummings character clashing with Malcolm.EPG said:
Yeah, weirdos as long as they went to the world's best universities and won't offend anyone who gets upset by gender identity blah blah.rottenborough said:
We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
That was a play on Steve Hilton iirc.EPG said:
I think they already covered the Tory svengali with an obsession with weirdness and oppositional blue-sky thinking.rottenborough said:
I think The Thick of it needs to return with a Cummings character clashing with Malcolm.EPG said:
Yeah, weirdos as long as they went to the world's best universities and won't offend anyone who gets upset by gender identity blah blah.rottenborough said:
We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1212852934087761920
Yeh, that's right, Starmer was why Labour voters whose parents and grandparents had always voted Lab, turned away.
Naught to do with the Blessed Corbyn.
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I think people (as always with Cummings) may be responding to his dramatics by thinking these changes amount to more than they do.
Appealing to weirdos is not new - the MOD have been doing much the same thing. Wanting to cast the net for applicants wider than it is currently - a good thing. Getting rid of office politics, of course you'll never do that, but by coming out as 'anti' office politics you might get more applicants who know that isn't their strength feeling comfortable enough to apply.
I've read a lot of people saying 'I think I could be what he's looking for', and even if at the moment these people aren't serious, I think that's a great thing.1 -
I think Cummings sees himself as the "right person" that the hire needs to assiduously court favour with and his definition of "playing office politics" leading to a binning is those that don't court his favour.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.1 -
Anyhoo, I am loving the BBC "Dracula". It's "Sherlock" with gore. The writers are doing such a good job of handling Sister Agatha as a female Doctor it makes me wish they were still writing for "Doctor Who". I know everybody here has the hate on for the Beeb, but I think it's brilliant.0
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That's not really my experience, FWIW. Neither where I've been successful in industry and the voluntary sector, nor where I've seen others who were. There's some of that in politics, of course, but the key thing political leaders look for is loyalty followed by competence. They mostly aren't that interested in flattery, Trump being an obvious exception.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.0 -
Horror/Gothic isn't my thing at all - but I am enjoying this. Some very neat twists. Some clever nods. Good amount of humour. Genuinely shocking.viewcode said:Anyhoo, I am loving the BBC "Dracula". It's "Sherlock" with gore. The writers are doing such a good job of handling Sister Agatha as a female Doctor it makes me wish they were still writing for "Doctor Who". I know everybody here has the hate on for the Beeb, but I think it's brilliant.
Really didn't see the end of ep2 coming.
I am pretty certain this isn't a one-off series.0 -
It's outrageous how much it is just a Sherlock photocopy, but as Moffat&Gatiss are the best at doing that sort of drama and they can't drag Cumberbatch and Bilbo back from Marvel, I'm more than happy to take it.oxfordsimon said:
Horror/Gothic isn't my thing at all - but I am enjoying this. Some very neat twists. Some clever nods. Good amount of humour. Genuinely shocking.viewcode said:Anyhoo, I am loving the BBC "Dracula". It's "Sherlock" with gore. The writers are doing such a good job of handling Sister Agatha as a female Doctor it makes me wish they were still writing for "Doctor Who". I know everybody here has the hate on for the Beeb, but I think it's brilliant.
Really didn't see the end of ep2 coming.
I am pretty certain this isn't a one-off series.
I am also glad they decided to keep Agatha on, She's really good, and when I get my Tardis I'll pop back to 2017 and stand in front of the Doctor Who writers and say "LOOK! THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT, YOU DUMB F***S!". Not that I'm twitchy or anything...
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Nandy was always a remainer, stringing along her leave supporting constituents but voting against May's deal three times.bigjohnowls said:On Topic
I think Nandy has a chance.
Even though she is well to the right of the Membership her Brexit views are attractive to me.
I would say there is a real chance i could vote for her depending on what she says in the Campaign about other non Brexit issues.
If she hadn't been part of the Chicken Coup she would definitely have my vote as it is i guess there is a circa 50% chance I will vote for her.0 -
If asked to join an obviously doomed project, you have to say no, no matter how much the CEO begs you.MaxPB said:
Yup, get on the right side of the right people, that's always the game plan at any company. Also, learn when and how to say no to senior management. Those are my two tips for getting ahead in life.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.0 -
"the key thing political leaders look for is loyalty"NickPalmer said:
That's not really my experience, FWIW. Neither where I've been successful in industry and the voluntary sector, nor where I've seen others who were. There's some of that in politics, of course, but the key thing political leaders look for is loyalty followed by competence. They mostly aren't that interested in flattery, Trump being an obvious exception.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.
Yes, who you choose to be loyal to IS office politics.1 -
We need the "Brexit: The Uncivil War" sequel where Benedict Cumberbatch returns to save the day first.rottenborough said:
I think The Thick of it needs to return with a Cummings character clashing with Malcolm.EPG said:
Yeah, weirdos as long as they went to the world's best universities and won't offend anyone who gets upset by gender identity blah blah.rottenborough said:
We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.0 -
Not necessarily. If you pick up a good salary and good experience, and it keeps going for over 18 months, it doesn't look that bad on your CV and you've got a great response to the "why did you leave your last job" question.rcs1000 said:
If asked to join an obviously doomed project, you have to say no, no matter how much the CEO begs you.MaxPB said:
Yup, get on the right side of the right people, that's always the game plan at any company. Also, learn when and how to say no to senior management. Those are my two tips for getting ahead in life.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.0 -
You guys are right to doubt Cummings.
Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?
But yeah how dare he try and make things better..2 -
The Scottish Parliament needs full fiscal autonomy.0
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Cummings to a cinema near you!dodrade said:
We need the "Brexit: The Uncivil War" sequel where Benedict Cumberbatch returns to save the day first.rottenborough said:
I think The Thick of it needs to return with a Cummings character clashing with Malcolm.EPG said:
Yeah, weirdos as long as they went to the world's best universities and won't offend anyone who gets upset by gender identity blah blah.rottenborough said:
We are "weirdo blind"EPG said:
Imagine trying the usual "We are an inclusive"... "gender identity" "blah blah"rottenborough said:What authority does Cummings have to run recruitment for the Civil Service?
If I was the HR director I would be on the war path tonight.1 -
I don't know why more Tories aren't more worried about Scotland going independent? If that happens under a Tory government you will lose English support. Don't for a second think it will bring political advantage to the the Conservative and Unioist party.TGOHF666 said:nunu2 said:The Scottish Parliament needs full fiscal autonomy.
Jarvid must cut National Insurance-Holyrood can’t overturn that Tory tax cut ...0 -
Nah he did those things by scaring people about foreigners and the futureTGOHF666 said:You guys are right to doubt Cummings.
Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?
But yeah how dare he try and make things better..
No evidence he can inspire people in a positive way - CF Education0 -
Yeah it was all luck.EPG said:
Nah he did those things by scaring people about foreigners and the futureTGOHF666 said:You guys are right to doubt Cummings.
Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?
But yeah how dare he try and make things better..
No evidence he can inspire people in a positive way - CF Education0 -
Brexit kills Sindy.nunu2 said:
I don't know why more Tories aren't more worried about Scotland going independent? If that happens under a Tory government you will lose English support. Don't for a second think it will bring political advantage to the the Conservative and Unioist party.TGOHF666 said:nunu2 said:The Scottish Parliament needs full fiscal autonomy.
Jarvid must cut National Insurance-Holyrood can’t overturn that Tory tax cut ...
Scots with mortgages and pensions in British pounds won’t touch the Euro with a barge pole.
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Boris - if DC doesn’t cut the mustard he is out. But his leash is currently pretty long.viewcode said:
Who do you think is running the country: Cummings or Boris? Genuine question.TGOHF666 said:...Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?....
The civil service needs a kick up the Backside - welcome it.1 -
I haven't watched it, is it worth watching?oxfordsimon said:
Horror/Gothic isn't my thing at all - but I am enjoying this. Some very neat twists. Some clever nods. Good amount of humour. Genuinely shocking.viewcode said:Anyhoo, I am loving the BBC "Dracula". It's "Sherlock" with gore. The writers are doing such a good job of handling Sister Agatha as a female Doctor it makes me wish they were still writing for "Doctor Who". I know everybody here has the hate on for the Beeb, but I think it's brilliant.
Really didn't see the end of ep2 coming.
I am pretty certain this isn't a one-off series.0 -
I'm not sure they do.TGOHF666 said:
Boris - if DC doesn’t cut the mustard he is out. But his leash is currently pretty long.viewcode said:
Who do you think is running the country: Cummings or Boris? Genuine question.TGOHF666 said:...Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?....
The civil service needs a kick up the Backside - welcome it.0 -
The Tories won a majority of 156 at the last general election in England.nunu2 said:
I don't know why more Tories aren't more worried about Scotland going independent? If that happens under a Tory government you will lose English support. Don't for a second think it will bring political advantage to the the Conservative and Unioist party.TGOHF666 said:nunu2 said:The Scottish Parliament needs full fiscal autonomy.
Jarvid must cut National Insurance-Holyrood can’t overturn that Tory tax cut ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_general_election_in_England
The Tories remain committed to the Union which is why they had a manifesto commitment to block indyref2 for their full 5 year term but the biggest losers from Scottish independence would be Labour and the left0 -
Every organisation in the world needs to continually update itself.viewcode said:
I'm not sure they do.TGOHF666 said:
Boris - if DC doesn’t cut the mustard he is out. But his leash is currently pretty long.viewcode said:
Who do you think is running the country: Cummings or Boris? Genuine question.TGOHF666 said:...Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?....
The civil service needs a kick up the Backside - welcome it.
Spoiler - nobody who isn’t a civil servant or is shagging a civil servant will care two hoots for any teeth gnashing - probably they will enjoy it.0 -
Being involved in a project which is (obviously) going to crash and burn is no fun, irrespective of the salary. Working on something that works, on the other hand, is fun. And you're more likely to keep drawing the salary if, you know, the project doesn't die.viewcode said:
Not necessarily. If you pick up a good salary and good experience, and it keeps going for over 18 months, it doesn't look that bad on your CV and you've got a great response to the "why did you leave your last job" question.rcs1000 said:
If asked to join an obviously doomed project, you have to say no, no matter how much the CEO begs you.MaxPB said:
Yup, get on the right side of the right people, that's always the game plan at any company. Also, learn when and how to say no to senior management. Those are my two tips for getting ahead in life.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.0 -
Not updated with ideas someone saw on a blog by a self-educated AI "expert".TGOHF666 said:
Every organisation in the world needs to continually update itself.viewcode said:
I'm not sure they do.TGOHF666 said:
Boris - if DC doesn’t cut the mustard he is out. But his leash is currently pretty long.viewcode said:
Who do you think is running the country: Cummings or Boris? Genuine question.TGOHF666 said:...Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?....
The civil service needs a kick up the Backside - welcome it.
Spoiler - nobody who isn’t a civil servant or is shagging a civil servant will care two hoots for any teeth gnashing - probably they will enjoy it.0 -
If the SNP had been smart they’d have grabbed May’s deal.TGOHF666 said:
Brexit kills Sindy.nunu2 said:
I don't know why more Tories aren't more worried about Scotland going independent? If that happens under a Tory government you will lose English support. Don't for a second think it will bring political advantage to the the Conservative and Unioist party.TGOHF666 said:nunu2 said:The Scottish Parliament needs full fiscal autonomy.
Jarvid must cut National Insurance-Holyrood can’t overturn that Tory tax cut ...
Scots with mortgages and pensions in British pounds won’t touch the Euro with a barge pole.
Now SINDY + EU = hardest of hard borders with rUK ( which accounts for 4 times as much of Scotland’s trade than the EU.) That will become progressively clearer as the “Irish sea it isn’t a border really” gets implemented.0 -
That's right, people make these decisions based on economic logic and not emotion about whether they like the people governing them.CarlottaVance said:
If the SNP had been smart they’d have grabbed May’s deal.TGOHF666 said:
Brexit kills Sindy.nunu2 said:
I don't know why more Tories aren't more worried about Scotland going independent? If that happens under a Tory government you will lose English support. Don't for a second think it will bring political advantage to the the Conservative and Unioist party.TGOHF666 said:nunu2 said:The Scottish Parliament needs full fiscal autonomy.
Jarvid must cut National Insurance-Holyrood can’t overturn that Tory tax cut ...
Scots with mortgages and pensions in British pounds won’t touch the Euro with a barge pole.
Now SINDY + EU = hardest of hard borders with rUK ( which accounts for 4 times as much of Scotland’s trade than the EU.) That will become progressively clearer as the “Irish sea it isn’t a border really” gets implemented.0 -
Yup: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p07rxf89/dracula?seriesId=p07rxf89-unindexedTheGreenMachine said:
I haven't watched it, is it worth watching?oxfordsimon said:
Horror/Gothic isn't my thing at all - but I am enjoying this. Some very neat twists. Some clever nods. Good amount of humour. Genuinely shocking.viewcode said:Anyhoo, I am loving the BBC "Dracula". It's "Sherlock" with gore. The writers are doing such a good job of handling Sister Agatha as a female Doctor it makes me wish they were still writing for "Doctor Who". I know everybody here has the hate on for the Beeb, but I think it's brilliant.
Really didn't see the end of ep2 coming.
I am pretty certain this isn't a one-off series.0 -
I care. And I'm not a civil servant nor am I shagging one. I don't get off on causing hardship to people I don't like.TGOHF666 said:
Every organisation in the world needs to continually update itself.viewcode said:
I'm not sure they do.TGOHF666 said:
Boris - if DC doesn’t cut the mustard he is out. But his leash is currently pretty long.viewcode said:
Who do you think is running the country: Cummings or Boris? Genuine question.TGOHF666 said:...Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?....
The civil service needs a kick up the Backside - welcome it.
Spoiler - nobody who isn’t a civil servant or is shagging a civil servant will care two hoots for any teeth gnashing - probably they will enjoy it.0 -
Unfortunately, one does not work for "fun". And all projects end. The trick is to use project n as a stepping stone to project n+1.rcs1000 said:
Being involved in a project which is (obviously) going to crash and burn is no fun, irrespective of the salary. Working on something that works, on the other hand, is fun. And you're more likely to keep drawing the salary if, you know, the project doesn't die.viewcode said:
Not necessarily. If you pick up a good salary and good experience, and it keeps going for over 18 months, it doesn't look that bad on your CV and you've got a great response to the "why did you leave your last job" question.rcs1000 said:
If asked to join an obviously doomed project, you have to say no, no matter how much the CEO begs you.MaxPB said:
Yup, get on the right side of the right people, that's always the game plan at any company. Also, learn when and how to say no to senior management. Those are my two tips for getting ahead in life.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.0 -
It appears the US have killed a guy called Qasim Soleimani in Bagdhad this evening, whether deliberately or accident.
Don't know him? Look him up. He is head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards operations outside Iran and is a very large, pretty much legend, of a figure to many. The man who has directed countless operations & attacks on US & wider Western interests over many years.
If this is confirmed, in real military and potentially fuse lighting terms, it is a more significant kill than Bin Laden ever was.
Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.0 -
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
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There is significant opposition to Iranian influence in Iraq as the ongoing street protests and associated violence can testify to, but I cannot begin to tell you how notable this guy is. Its like killing the head of the KGB or CIA, the guy is that significant possibly more so as he is/was a very hands on bloke.edmundintokyo said:
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
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Al Jazeera take:Yokes said:
There is significant opposition to Iranian influence in Iraq as the ongoing street protests and associated violence can testify to, but I cannot begin to tell you how notable this guy is. Its like killing the head of the KGB or CIA, the guy is that significant possibly more so as he is/was a very hands on bloke.edmundintokyo said:
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/iraq-3-katyusha-rockets-fired-baghdad-airport-200102232817666.html0 -
Drone strike by all acounts and exceptionally accurate. The amount of US airlift into the region over the last 24-48 hours is way above normal operations so the US is certainly working on the assumption that there will be trouble.CarlottaVance said:
Al Jazeera take:Yokes said:
There is significant opposition to Iranian influence in Iraq as the ongoing street protests and associated violence can testify to, but I cannot begin to tell you how notable this guy is. Its like killing the head of the KGB or CIA, the guy is that significant possibly more so as he is/was a very hands on bloke.edmundintokyo said:
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/iraq-3-katyusha-rockets-fired-baghdad-airport-200102232817666.html0 -
“Put it this way. Other than the Supreme Leader Khamenei and maybe the president, he looms larger in Iran than almost any other figure,” said Zakaria. “He is regarded as personally incredibly brave. The troops love him, and he has been the kind of mastermind of Iran’s policies in Syria, in Iraq. So when General Petraeus was fighting the Iraq war, the surge, I remember him telling me that Soleimani was his principle antagonist.edmundintokyo said:
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/qasem-soleimani-is-a-revered-figure-in-iran-and-his-death-will-force-the-country-to-respond-fareed-zakaria/0 -
General Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' elite Quds Force, has been killed by US forces in Iraq.
The Pentagon confirmed he was killed "at the direction of the president".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50979463
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212924762827046918?s=200 -
Top Twitter trends in London:
1) Iran
2) World War 3
3) Soleimani
4) Baghdad
https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1212934867865997312?s=200 -
Well exactly. That passage of his at least is either delusional or dishonest.FF43 said:
I think Cummings sees himself as the "right person" that the hire needs to assiduously court favour with and his definition of "playing office politics" leading to a binning is those that don't court his favour.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.0 -
I'd heard of him before, which given general ignorance of the region says something about his profile.Yokes said:
There is significant opposition to Iranian influence in Iraq as the ongoing street protests and associated violence can testify to, but I cannot begin to tell you how notable this guy is. Its like killing the head of the KGB or CIA, the guy is that significant possibly more so as he is/was a very hands on bloke.edmundintokyo said:
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
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Updates need to be considered, even radical swift ones, not at the whim of ideologues pretending a rational basis for their ideological updates.TGOHF666 said:
Every organisation in the world needs to continually update itself.viewcode said:
I'm not sure they do.TGOHF666 said:
Boris - if DC doesn’t cut the mustard he is out. But his leash is currently pretty long.viewcode said:
Who do you think is running the country: Cummings or Boris? Genuine question.TGOHF666 said:...Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?....
The civil service needs a kick up the Backside - welcome it.
Spoiler - nobody who isn’t a civil servant or is shagging a civil servant will care two hoots for any teeth gnashing - probably they will enjoy it.0 -
His success in certain areas- and I thought this chap Levido was supposed to be mastermind of the majority- doesnt mean people should think he will be a success in a very different one, or more to the point that they should want him to succeed in it depending on what his aims are.TGOHF666 said:You guys are right to doubt Cummings.
Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?
But yeah how dare he try and make things better..0 -
I don't see how that contradicts the point - loyalty to him personally or his aims over other factors would be a way of courting his favour, it doesnt have to mean obsequiousness. Lack of interest in obvious flattery hardly denotes a lack of office politics - seems pretty naive to believe that if someone shuns Trump style vanity then their favour cannot be won through other means.NickPalmer said:
That's not really my experience, FWIW. Neither where I've been successful in industry and the voluntary sector, nor where I've seen others who were. There's some of that in politics, of course, but the key thing political leaders look for is loyalty followed by competence. They mostly aren't that interested in flattery, Trump being an obvious exception.rcs1000 said:
It's also fundamentally bullshit. Almost everyone I know who's successfully climbed the greasy poll, whether at Goldman or anywhere else, has done it by assiduously courting favour with the right people.Alistair said:If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.
Is the quote of a man who is an idiot. The point of office politics is you don't detect it. It is done in secret.
This is the kind of empty platitude that some says to look tough and on the ball but there is absolutely zero to back it up.
That's office politics.
Political leaders in particular get sucked up to and praised in more subtle ways all the time.0 -
Agreed. I'm far from convinced she means the things she says as unlike others in parliament she didnt take action to back up her words.dodrade said:
Nandy was always a remainer, stringing along her leave supporting constituents but voting against May's deal three times.bigjohnowls said:On Topic
I think Nandy has a chance.
Even though she is well to the right of the Membership her Brexit views are attractive to me.
I would say there is a real chance i could vote for her depending on what she says in the Campaign about other non Brexit issues.
If she hadn't been part of the Chicken Coup she would definitely have my vote as it is i guess there is a circa 50% chance I will vote for her.0 -
I'm not even concerned about the hardship, but I also have an aversion to gurus seeking to stir things up as an end in itself. Oh sure they always say it's for a good reason and theres usually a sluggish environment that does indeed need updating, but how many of these types are hammers in search of a nail rather than genuinely persuadable to methods or directions they dont already support?viewcode said:
I care. And I'm not a civil servant nor am I shagging one. I don't get off on causing hardship to people I don't like.TGOHF666 said:
Every organisation in the world needs to continually update itself.viewcode said:
I'm not sure they do.TGOHF666 said:
Boris - if DC doesn’t cut the mustard he is out. But his leash is currently pretty long.viewcode said:
Who do you think is running the country: Cummings or Boris? Genuine question.TGOHF666 said:...Apart from deliver Brexit and a stonking majority what’s he ever done ?....
The civil service needs a kick up the Backside - welcome it.
Spoiler - nobody who isn’t a civil servant or is shagging a civil servant will care two hoots for any teeth gnashing - probably they will enjoy it.0 -
Some people are difficult to replace in effectiveness.edmundintokyo said:
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
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Most of the Commentators I have read have been saying it’s difficult to underestimate the importance of this - and Iranian retaliatory action is guaranteed.kle4 said:
Some people are difficult to replace in effectiveness.edmundintokyo said:
That should work, provided the Iranians don't come up with a clever counterstrategy like promoting somebody else, thus replacing the assassinated leader with a new leaderYokes said:Some kind of major sweep on leaders of Iraqi shi'te militias, effectively run by Soleimani also appears to be underway. This is a major attempt to throttle Iranian influence, which is massive, in the country.
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If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"0 -
Wag the Dog:
https://twitter.com/EricColumbus/status/1212929154460590080
Now the political question is how many american soldiers will have to die for Trump to lose re-election ?1 -
How would Sir Humphrey Appleby deal with Cummings?0
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Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003. You're right that more Americans getting killed in Iraq it might make voters more receptive to a Sanders kind of agenda, though.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"0 -
Boris voted against May's deal. Is he a Remainer too?dodrade said:
Nandy was always a remainer, stringing along her leave supporting constituents but voting against May's deal three times.bigjohnowls said:On Topic
I think Nandy has a chance.
Even though she is well to the right of the Membership her Brexit views are attractive to me.
I would say there is a real chance i could vote for her depending on what she says in the Campaign about other non Brexit issues.
If she hadn't been part of the Chicken Coup she would definitely have my vote as it is i guess there is a circa 50% chance I will vote for her.0 -
Great to see Henry G active again on PB.com ... and quite apart from the Next Leader Contest, just in time for his brilliant tipping on the Australian Open Tennis.
He's absolutely right of course as regards the number of wannabe leaders who won't even make it onto the ballot paper (three maximum I would guess) and on this basis Lisa Nandy looks good value for money, although the smart money seems to be piling onto Keir Starmer. Maybe it's just me but RL-B looks an awful choice. Personally I've preferred backing Starmer over recent months to be the next PM at around 20/1-25/1. Obviously his price has shortened considerably since 12 Dec and he's currently best priced at 12/1 with bet365 (only half that price with Laddies), for those prepared prepared to wait that long.0 -
Some kind of trick to make him think he had won while actually ensuring his reforms only applied to small teams or were easily reversible. If he could delay by getting it to be 'trialled' on SpAds only I imagine he would.squareroot2 said:How would Sir Humphrey Appleby deal with Cummings?
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Isn't America Great Again though, when it's troops go swaggering through the world killing brown people?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003. You're right that more Americans getting killed in Iraq it might make voters more receptive to a Sanders kind of agenda, though.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"0 -
I would say 'good morning' but with Trump deciding to launch an open war with Iran I'm not sure 'good' is the right word.0
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So you think Trump is deliberately killing/targeting "brown people". What a load of shite.OldKingCole said:
Isn't America Great Again though, when it's troops go swaggering through the world killing brown people?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003. You're right that more Americans getting killed in Iraq it might make voters more receptive to a Sanders kind of agenda, though.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"0 -
Boris would do well to stay out of any US escalation with Iran. A military intervention is the last thing he needs at this stage in his premiership.
Although will the lure of a Trump trade deal be a siren call?1 -
The war, or its legality?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/mar/17/foreignpolicy.iraq1
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Well, how would you describe his policy?squareroot2 said:
So you think Trump is deliberately killing/targeting "brown people". What a load of shite.OldKingCole said:
Isn't America Great Again though, when it's troops go swaggering through the world killing brown people?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003. You're right that more Americans getting killed in Iraq it might make voters more receptive to a Sanders kind of agenda, though.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"0 -
Lots of isolated decisions without strategy.OldKingCole said:
Well, how would you describe his policy?squareroot2 said:
So you think Trump is deliberately killing/targeting "brown people". What a load of shite.OldKingCole said:
Isn't America Great Again though, when it's troops go swaggering through the world killing brown people?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003. You're right that more Americans getting killed in Iraq it might make voters more receptive to a Sanders kind of agenda, though.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"0 -
https://www.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1212932812485136385
What's especially puzzling however is that this comes so soon after Trump and Putin's lovein. Soleimani was one of Putin's friends in the regime, the man tipped as Putin's choice for next President of Iran and a key figure in Putin's Syria strategy.
So either Putin will be ready to explode or - just possibly - we are seeing Trump used, wittingly or otherwise, as part of a power struggle. With Putin I suppose you never quite know.0 -
I think this individual’s record was orders of magnitude more important than the colour of his skin.OldKingCole said:
Isn't America Great Again though, when it's troops go swaggering through the world killing brown people?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003. You're right that more Americans getting killed in Iraq it might make voters more receptive to a Sanders kind of agenda, though.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"1 -
I trust he extends to our noble American allies every assistance, short of actual help.numbertwelve said:Boris would do well to stay out of any US escalation with Iran. A military intervention is the last thing he needs at this stage in his premiership.
Although will the lure of a Trump trade deal be a siren call?1 -
He then acted explicitly for five anti-Iraq war protestors in 2006.CarlottaVance said:
The war, or its legality?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/mar/17/foreignpolicy.iraq1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4743464.stm0 -
Interestingly we have not, as yet, had an official Russian response, as far as I can tell.ydoethur said:https://www.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1212932812485136385
What's especially puzzling however is that this comes so soon after Trump and Putin's lovein. Soleimani was one of Putin's friends in the regime, the man tipped as Putin's choice for next President of Iran and a key figure in Putin's Syria strategy.
So either Putin will be ready to explode or - just possibly - we are seeing Trump used, wittingly or otherwise, as part of a power struggle. With Putin I suppose you never quite know.
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Why don't you try and describe it.. sensibly... without the emotive racist elementOldKingCole said:
Well, how would you describe his policy?squareroot2 said:
So you think Trump is deliberately killing/targeting "brown people". What a load of shite.OldKingCole said:
Isn't America Great Again though, when it's troops go swaggering through the world killing brown people?WhisperingOracle said:
Starmer's been an opponent of the Iraq war since 2003. You're right that more Americans getting killed in Iraq it might make voters more receptive to a Sanders kind of agenda, though.speedy2 said:If it becomes a shooting war sell Starmer, Biden and Trump, buy Lavery and Sanders.
The Anti-War guys are going to be politically energised.
Also beware a usual failure of Pentagon plans, here is a war game from 2004:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/12/will-iran-be-next/303599/
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200412/2004-12-fallows-iran.pdf
Their plan in 2004 was to have 3 divisions and a brigade to drive 1000 miles over many tall mountain ranges, siege Tehran and get out all in 5 days, brought to you by the same people who planned the Iraq War.
Of course the Civilian leaders involved were appalled by the such terrible planning:
"Companies deciding which kind of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making processes to refer to than the most senior officials of the U.S. government deciding whether or not to go to war"1 -
On topic, I hope Henry is right. Nandy would be my first choice. However, I am not sure he is. You need 5% of the overall membership of affiliates and unions combined to get nominated. When you think of the union memberships that basically means you need a big union to support you. I cannot see Nandy getting that.0
