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... and no grey matter was found.Theuniondivvie said:
Not sure who my soon-to-be ex MP Paul Sweeney will blame it on. His head may explode.StuartDickson said:Ian Murray blaming the potential loss of Edinburgh South on Corbyn, Corbyn, Corbyn.
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Jesus some of these Remain people just don't get it....Miller banging on about Boris not able to read etc.
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Interesting idea. “No you can’t have a referendum and, fuck it, let’s collapse the Scottish Gvt”.bookseller said:
That was supposed to be 'devolution'...bookseller said:
Johnson can do what he fucking well likes. Ditch the revolution agreements, break up the BBC, bring back hanging. Dizzying it must be...Time_to_Leave said:Is Boris now thinking “fuck it I might as well sell the NHS”?
Edit - For clarity I am joking. Scotland should have its referendum.
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IndeedTheGreenMachine said:
Yes but majority nationalist.Yokes said:
You do know Ardoyne includes a Unionist community right?TheGreenMachine said:Belfast North : Some Areas Had 80% Approx Turnout, Ardoyne And Few Unionist Areas. Still On A Knife Edge. #Exciting
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How did three years of hollering "FUCK OFF AND JOIN THE TORIEEEEES" go?TommyShelby said:The Green Party MUST disband as a political party.
You either join the Tory party or join the Labour Party while we continue to have first past the post system.
EVERY LIBERAL DEMOCRAT HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS0 -
* Corbyn sat on the fence on Brexit at the key moment, tried to triangulate the issue, confused and annoyed everyone and could not lay a finger on the Tories.Winstanley said:
What's the difference between now and 2017? Labour commitment to a second referendum.Jonathan said:The SNP is the answer to the idea that it was Brexit alone that caused Labour to lose.
This is all about Corbyn, Milne and their cult.
* The total catastrophic mishandling of antisemitism in the party .
* Much of the 2019 manifesto lacked credibility, whereas the 2017 manifesto borrowed heavily from 1997.0 -
How can Newcastle North be close? MRP had it at Con 31, Lab 46
It seems lightning won't strike twice regarding YouGov's MRP.0 -
Bolsover
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Labour imploding in front of us. Utterly ruinous days ahead for them0
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Gareth Snell: you are a legend. This is what Labour needs.0
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He's rightnumbertwelve said:OMG Gareth Snell.
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Yes, if they got that part of Newcastle a mega-landslide really could be on.numbertwelve said:
Seismic. We have not known such scenes since Blair was in his prime.CarlottaVance said:0 -
She’s actually a terrific winner.Slackbladder said:
She's such a bitter loser...AlistairM said:Gina Miller on ITV looks destroyed.
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What happened to the fourth?RobD said:
Sounds like the three horsemen of the apocalypse...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Gareth Snell unleashing the bitter recriminations on BBC1.
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not pulling any punches, is he?numbertwelve said:OMG Gareth Snell.
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There you go! Just make sure the Camembert is nice and runny, and taken out of the fridge well in advance of eating.isam said:
I was given a hamper from a place in Arundel today that has both of those items insideRichard_Nabavi said:
I'm about to have nice chilled glass of Sancerre and some Camembert.Byronic said:I've moved on to Chateau Talbot, 2009
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Snell gets itFrancisUrquhart said:Jesus some of these Remain people just don't get it....Miller banging on about Boris not able to read etc.
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None of this is a surprise. Labour members own it entirely. They were told time and again. They did not listen. They should hang their heads in shame.7
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Recount.Benpointer said:
What happened to the fourth?RobD said:
Sounds like the three horsemen of the apocalypse...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Gareth Snell unleashing the bitter recriminations on BBC1.
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Belfast South : Claire Hanna is polling very well but still early days, full result is expected around 3am.0
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The people are wrong, democratic votes are wrong. She is right. I can't believe how you don't see that.KentRising said:
Will she be taking the election result to court?AlistairM said:Gina Miller on ITV looks destroyed.
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She ought to stand for parliament if she wants to get involved in politics.StuartDickson said:
She’s actually a terrific winner.Slackbladder said:
She's such a bitter loser...AlistairM said:Gina Miller on ITV looks destroyed.
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All these huge upsets in northern seats are also the sound of huge expectations being built up.0
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This post.SouthamObserver said:None of this is a surprise. Labour members own it entirely. They were told time and again. They did not listen. They should hang their heads in shame.
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The common man or woman have voted for the party and that is good enough for meOnlyLivingBoy said:
With respect Big G I think that's rubbish. Take a look at who bankrolls the Tories. They are the epitome of the metropolitan elite. Anyone who thinks that this is a victory for the common man is being played. It's sad that this US style culture war crap has taken root here.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well I can finally say after all these years the Metropolitan elite have been shown the door by the ordinary folk and not before time
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Moray count: too close to call. Very close. Knife edge. According to both SNP and Con.0
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They had to sell it to pay the 25% VATBenpointer said:
What happened to the fourth?RobD said:
Sounds like the three horsemen of the apocalypse...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Gareth Snell unleashing the bitter recriminations on BBC1.
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Ooh BBC going to East Dunbartonshire . . .0
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Can recommend you read Oliver Bullough's 'Moneyland' Big G. You've been played. But sure, it's a victory for the ordinary folk. I look forward to the ordinary folk cracking on in Westminster on Tuesday.WhisperingOracle said:
Not just the metropolitan elite, in fact, but the transnational mega-wealthy elite.OnlyLivingBoy said:
With respect Big G I think that's rubbish. Take a look at who bankrolls the Tories. They are the epitome of the metropolitan elite. Anyone who thinks that this is a victory for the common man is being played. It's sad that this US style culture war crap has taken root here.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well I can finally say after all these years the Metropolitan elite have been shown the door by the ordinary folk and not before time
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I'm going to be spending tomorrow night with them at my Christmas party. Have pity on me.WhisperingOracle said:
Not just the metropolitan elite, in fact, but the transnational mega-wealthy elite.OnlyLivingBoy said:
With respect Big G I think that's rubbish. Take a look at who bankrolls the Tories. They are the epitome of the metropolitan elite. Anyone who thinks that this is a victory for the common man is being played. It's sad that this US style culture war crap has taken root here.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well I can finally say after all these years the Metropolitan elite have been shown the door by the ordinary folk and not before time
I had to get it off my chest and nothing personal to any of our posters1 -
Moray has finished counting!1
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Bloody EU rules!Tim_B said:
They had to sell it to pay the 25% VATBenpointer said:
What happened to the fourth?RobD said:
Sounds like the three horsemen of the apocalypse...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Gareth Snell unleashing the bitter recriminations on BBC1.
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I hope Scon holds on. He is greatly liked and hard workingStuartDickson said:Moray count: too close to call. Very close. Knife edge. According to both SNP and Con.
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Note, some Labour members fought this and tried damned hard to fix it despite being called 'Red Tory Scum'.SouthamObserver said:None of this is a surprise. Labour members own it entirely. They were told time and again. They did not listen. They should hang their heads in shame.
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But will they, or will they react the same as they did when EdM lost in 2015, throw a massive tantrum and pick someone even more bonkers than Corbyn?SouthamObserver said:None of this is a surprise. Labour members own it entirely. They were told time and again. They did not listen. They should hang their heads in shame.
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East Dunbartonshire: looking extremely tight. Lib Dems looking extremely worried. SNP smiling. (BBC)0
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That’s how it works in the US, as well. A party run by billionaires gets people with nothing to vote for it, then does nothing for them.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The common man or woman have voted for the party and that is good enough for meOnlyLivingBoy said:
With respect Big G I think that's rubbish. Take a look at who bankrolls the Tories. They are the epitome of the metropolitan elite. Anyone who thinks that this is a victory for the common man is being played. It's sad that this US style culture war crap has taken root here.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well I can finally say after all these years the Metropolitan elite have been shown the door by the ordinary folk and not before time
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That should mean Banff is a Tory hold I thinkStuartDickson said:Moray count: too close to call. Very close. Knife edge. According to both SNP and Con.
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Yet not a drop to drink.Fysics_Teacher said:
EverywhereStuartDickson said:
WaterSandyRentool said:
WaterByronic said:I've moved on to Chateau Talbot, 2009
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1h1NJMKtncProdicus_2 said:
1812 finale if Tory.ozymandias said:
What classical music do you suggest listening to whilst watching the redByronic said:I've moved on to Chateau Talbot, 2009
Others?
Dominoes fall?
Tchaikovsky Pathetique finale if Labour.
MASH theme song if Swinson and friends.0 -
99%+SNP in the Exit Poll.StuartDickson said:Moray count: too close to call. Very close. Knife edge. According to both SNP and Con.
Needs a 4.5% swing to SNP.
The SNP could be around 47-51 seats.0 -
Some rather ashen-faces there with LibDem rosettes in Jo Swinson's seat......0
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They should have a 'Portillo moment' rating on the BBC exit poll.StuartDickson said:East Dunbartonshire: looking extremely tight. Lib Dems looking extremely worried. SNP smiling. (BBC)
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I am shocked, far too many people think I say exactly the same things as Osborne, occasionally before he says it.0
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Gareth snell expecting to get beat and absolutely excoriating on BBC just now; "we had the choice of message: 'stop tories' or 'stop brexit'; the london MPs chose stopping brexit and ignored midlands/northern voters". Brillo: "should corbyn and mcdonnell go?" GS: "yes".
stop press GARETH SNELL IS 5 YEARS YOUNGER THAN I AM. He looks like absolute shit for a 33yo. Must've had a difficult paper round.0 -
I’m on Angela Rayner for next LAB leader, and I think Gareth Snell’s comment there will be echoed a few times more.
Looking at tonight’s outcome, it can’t be a full-on remainer. Lay Starmer, Back Rayner. That’s my advice.0 -
They have told him to f##k off back to Newcastle.CarlottaVance said:0 -
As with 2017, the first MRP was closer than the second. Interesting.Philip_Thompson said:How can Newcastle North be close? MRP had it at Con 31, Lab 46
It seems lightning won't strike twice regarding YouGov's MRP.0 -
Time to break away, The SDP are back up and running these days. Big demand for a socially conservative, economically liberal party in the country.Jonathan said:
Note, some Labour members fought this and tried damned hard to fix it despite being called 'Red Tory Scum'.SouthamObserver said:None of this is a surprise. Labour members own it entirely. They were told time and again. They did not listen. They should hang their heads in shame.
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If even your opponents IN ALL PARTIES are telling you you've got the wrong leader...ozymandias said:
This post.SouthamObserver said:None of this is a surprise. Labour members own it entirely. They were told time and again. They did not listen. They should hang their heads in shame.
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This is such a strange feeling. 2015 was the pure joy of surprise to me. 2017 was the gut punch of physical grief.
This time I barely feel anything other than stunned relief and disbelief...1 -
Osborne and Balls are far better than the other channels.0
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That assumes Rayner will win her seat.handandmouse said:I’m on Angela Rayner for next LAB leader, and I think Gareth Snell’s comment there will be echoed a few times more.
Looking at tonight’s outcome, it can’t be a full-on remainer. Lay Starmer, Back Rayner. That’s my advice.0 -
I hope that the party is loyal to those common people and not their mega wealthy donors. Having seen plenty of Tory politicians up close in Mayfair being wined and dined by the donor class I have to say that I don't share your optimism.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The common man or woman have voted for the party and that is good enough for meOnlyLivingBoy said:
With respect Big G I think that's rubbish. Take a look at who bankrolls the Tories. They are the epitome of the metropolitan elite. Anyone who thinks that this is a victory for the common man is being played. It's sad that this US style culture war crap has taken root here.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well I can finally say after all these years the Metropolitan elite have been shown the door by the ordinary folk and not before time
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Rayner has potential.handandmouse said:I’m on Angela Rayner for next LAB leader, and I think Gareth Snell’s comment there will be echoed a few times more.
Looking at tonight’s outcome, it can’t be a full-on remainer. Lay Starmer, Back Rayner. That’s my advice.0 -
Replicating USA resentment in the UK is the Cummings strategy that he has deployed since, of all things, the North-East regional devolution referendum. Make powerless people hate politicians, so they give up what power they have to other politicians, whose backers also back Cummings.IanB2 said:
That’s how it works in the US, as well. A party run by billionaires gets people with nothing to vote for it, then does nothing for them.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The common man or woman have voted for the party and that is good enough for meOnlyLivingBoy said:
With respect Big G I think that's rubbish. Take a look at who bankrolls the Tories. They are the epitome of the metropolitan elite. Anyone who thinks that this is a victory for the common man is being played. It's sad that this US style culture war crap has taken root here.Big_G_NorthWales said:Well I can finally say after all these years the Metropolitan elite have been shown the door by the ordinary folk and not before time
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Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.MarqueeMark said:Some rather ashen-faces there with LibDem rosettes in Jo Swinson's seat......
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Anyone with half a brain will be hoping Labour is destroyed totally tonight. Corbyn and co have allowed the Tories in to destroy the British constitution. Labour deserves to die for what it has enabled.1
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Labour will hold Easington but looks like that anecdote was a good straw in the wind2
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Can we all have a few minutes silence for Sir John Major, who took a landslide and delivered a barely workable majority. And how miserable he must be at Boris taking a minority government and on the cusp of delivering an 80 seat majority.1
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Lol. The composer is said to have described his finale as people being bashed with a stick and told they should be rejoicing.barrypeanuts said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1h1NJMKtncProdicus_2 said:
1812 finale if Tory.ozymandias said:
What classical music do you suggest listening to whilst watching the redByronic said:I've moved on to Chateau Talbot, 2009
Others?
Dominoes fall?
Tchaikovsky Pathetique finale if Labour.
MASH theme song if Swinson and friends.0 -
I agree...handandmouse said:I’m on Angela Rayner for next LAB leader, and I think Gareth Snell’s comment there will be echoed a few times more.
Looking at tonight’s outcome, it can’t be a full-on remainer. Lay Starmer, Back Rayner. That’s my advice.0 -
So then what... A one party state?SouthamObserver said:Anyone with half a brain will be hoping Labour is destroyed totally tonight. Corbyn and co have allowed the Tories in to destroy the British constitution. Labour deserves to die for what it has enabled.
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Hopefully they cut out the cancer of Corbyn and co and people like yourself will take over again.SouthamObserver said:Anyone with half a brain will be hoping Labour is destroyed totally tonight. Corbyn and co have allowed the Tories in to destroy the British constitution. Labour deserves to die for what it has enabled.
Watching Eddie Spheroids on ITV, I am sitting here going FFS can we have that Labour Party back please.0 -
Swindon North big swing to Con0
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Stockton North. If Labour cling on its thanks to the Brexit Party0
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You can shout all you want, but the only result is that you'll get a little hoarse :-)RobD said:
Bloody EU rules!Tim_B said:
They had to sell it to pay the 25% VATBenpointer said:
What happened to the fourth?RobD said:
Sounds like the three horsemen of the apocalypse...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Gareth Snell unleashing the bitter recriminations on BBC1.
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Not enough of them. Far too many were content to wait and see what happens. The ones that acted may have failed, but they can at least say they tried to do something about Corbyn before it was too late.Jonathan said:
Note, some Labour members fought this and tried damned hard to fix it despite being called 'Red Tory Scum'.SouthamObserver said:None of this is a surprise. Labour members own it entirely. They were told time and again. They did not listen. They should hang their heads in shame.
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Allbookseller said:
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EverywhereStuartDickson said:
WaterSandyRentool said:
WaterByronic said:I've moved on to Chateau Talbot, 2009
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Labour vote down in Swindon.0
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Swindon N big Tory win0
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Why did Labour turbocharge their spending?; Simple, they had ramped up the language about the cuts to such a peak the only response to them had to be to reverse them all and to do so straight away. They couldn't take time as it would make them complicit, so they HAD to spend straight way.0
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Swindon North Con 32584 Lab 164130
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Swindon North:
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Hanna should win given that SF are not standing with the nationalist pact, however a lot there depends on working class Loyalist turnout. They tend not to be heavy voters. If they do turnout Pengelly may hold on and what could stop Hanna is Paula Bradshaw of Alliance.TheGreenMachine said:Belfast South : Claire Hanna is polling very well but still early days, full result is expected around 3am.
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Swindon North!
Ave it calls the CON maj again!!!!!0 -
WOW big swing in Swindon...although a hold of course. for Tory.0
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I shat myself when it looked like the Lib Dem was holding a speech!NeilVW said:Swindon North big swing to Con
32,000 Tory votes in Swindon North.
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Let's not forget, though, that Boris has been lucky in his enemies.NorthernPowerhouse said:Can we all have a few minutes silence for Sir John Major, who took a landslide and delivered a barely workable majority. And how miserable he must be at Boris taking a minority government and on the cusp of delivering an 80 seat majority.
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Balls' neo-endogenous growth theory ("borrow loads, spend loads, multiplier, come out up") lay at the heart of Gordon Brown's overspending justifications.TheScreamingEagles said:
He polled very badly on a personal level as people realised he was Gordon Brown's consigliere and his assertions Labour hadn't left the UK exposed to the great financial crash.Philip_Thompson said:
Ask @TheScreamingEagles he might have a clue.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. Balls is a fucking class act. How has Labour lost these guys?FrancisUrquhart said:Come back Alan Johnson and Ed Balls....FFS these Maomentum student politics tw@ts need to shut up and bugger off.
My legendary modesty prevents me from mentioning my brilliant campaigning skills.0 -
WOW Swindon! I was worried when she said 16k for Lab not realising how big the constituency is, that massively outstrips the MRP too.0
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Glorious1
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Is 9,000 the ‘line’?RochdalePioneers said:Stockton North FFS
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HOLD not GAIN.IanB2 said:Swindon N big Tory win
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Cons double majority in Swindon North0
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Honda area?Andy_JS said:Swindon North:
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Lab 16,413
LD 4,408
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I told the Lib Dems to back Mays deal in my resignation letter to them !1
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Labour's spending proposals were a bit insulting to anyone over the age of about 15.4
