SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE
We’re really just watching our voting system at work.
Underneath the seat results, roughly half the voters plumped for the Tories and BXP and roughly half for the LibDems, Labour and nationalists. Public opinion is no further forward than in 2016.
Sammy Wilson. Heh. He can piss off, and when he’s pissed off he can piss off again. In fact Boris should invite them into Number 10 just so he can tell them to piss off.
All those nervous bedwetting PB Tories over the past few days, doubting the steady poll leads... Shame on you!
Some of us never doubted the tactics of locking Boris in the fridge!
Hands up - I wobbled. I'm bang to rights. I thought there would be a Tory majority (up until 30 mins before the exit poll), but nothing like what it looks like.
2017 was an outlier. An aberration. But it made us all nervous.
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
In my opinion it's more to do with Corbyn than Brexit. I know a lot of people will dispute that due to the results probably being better for Labour in Remain areas.
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
In my opinion it's more to do with Corbyn than Brexit. I know a lot of people will dispute that due to the results probably being better for Labour in Remain areas.
I don't doubt that it had a massive impact. But my point is that I don't see how a more pro-Remain leader would have stopped the BXP in the North from taking Labour votes?
SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE
We’re really just watching our voting system at work.
Underneath the seat results, roughly half the voters plumped for the Tories and BXP and roughly half for the LibDems, Labour and nationalists. Public opinion is no further forward than in 2016.
Can anyone point to a fourth term government being returned with an increased majority? It must be unprecedented. Maybe there's something weird in the 19th century, but otherwise?
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.
Don't underestimate the importance of Corbyn and Swinson not co-operating, though. That looks like it may have been an absolute disaster for Remain.
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.
I just want to acknowledge your gracious earlier comment about the result
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
In my opinion it's more to do with Corbyn than Brexit. I know a lot of people will dispute that due to the results probably being better for Labour in Remain areas.
I don't doubt that it had a massive impact. But my point is that I don't see how a more pro-Remain leader would have stopped the BXP in the North from taking Labour votes?
I think that is right.
The remarkable result was in 2017, when Corby convinced both Labour Leavers & Remainers he was on their side.
Labour should have voted for May's deal. Then, the next election really would have been dominated by the issues on which Corbyn was strong.
When this is all done it'll be fascinating to see how closely the electoral map in England and Wales resembles that of Leave vs Remain - particularly if we look at swing. There may be a lot of Tory holds on *reduced* majorities in Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex, the Thames Valley and parts of Hertfordshire.
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.
Don't underestimate the importance of Corbyn and Swinson not co-operating, though. That looks like it may have been an absolute disaster for Remain.
I think Labour were screwed either way . If they entered a Remain alliance they would have suffered even more in those Labour Leave areas if that’s possible !
I shouldn’t be smug. But I can’t help but be so when I think of how poorly the puffed up remainer rebel alliance played their card in he past 6-12 months.
Grieve, Boles, Soubry, Chukka, Bercow - all thought they were so clever and could scheme to ignore the will of the people.
Well, the people just gave their verdict on that behaviour. It turns out they rather like to have their votes respected.
Don’t mess with the British voters when they give you an instruction.
Boris would do well to heed that message from his new voters. He must not let them down.
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Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours
Some of us never doubted the tactics of locking Boris in the fridge!
Could mean that the Tory majority is understated, of course!
Expect a smaller swing. Maj now 15%. Might go up to 23%. If swing more than 5% could be dodgy for LAB in South
Underneath the seat results, roughly half the voters plumped for the Tories and BXP and roughly half for the LibDems, Labour and nationalists. Public opinion is no further forward than in 2016.
37 Con
43 Labour
9 Brexit
7 LD
2017 was an outlier. An aberration. But it made us all nervous.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
He was wrong then and right now.
If anything Corbyns Brexit policy was the smartest part of his policy work.
The second MRP had it remaining Labour by 8%.
Foot 1983
Corbyn 2019
Jess going for it then, seems like all the lefties are out of the question.
It must be hard for you and I hope we can start healing wounds especially if labour can rid themselves of Corbyn
Durham NW as well.
Seriously, someone check Bootle.
Corbyn's 2017 Brexit policy was more in line.
Following the Remainers after February was a big error.
PODUPWAS
Nutters of all shapes can now fade back into well-deserved obscurity. DUP, ERG, Corbynites. Bye bye. Piss off.
Good luck in returning your party to sanity
The remarkable result was in 2017, when Corby convinced both Labour Leavers & Remainers he was on their side.
Labour should have voted for May's deal. Then, the next election really would have been dominated by the issues on which Corbyn was strong.
I really want to believe you can do it - but they hold the power now
That would be surprising on these figures. But the whole bloody thing is surprising.
Counting 4 seats here: 3 SNP and 1 SLab (Coatbridge).
SLab saying that they have increased their majority in Coatbridge!!
Both SLab and SNP saying Exit Poll is WRONG.
HUGE, IF TRUE.
Grieve, Boles, Soubry, Chukka, Bercow - all thought they were so clever and could scheme to ignore the will of the people.
Well, the people just gave their verdict on that behaviour. It turns out they rather like to have their votes respected.
Don’t mess with the British voters when they give you an instruction.
Boris would do well to heed that message from his new voters. He must not let them down.
Was my first thought when I saw the headline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrjRKB586s
Lab 51% chance, Con 49%.
Renfrewshire Council said a possible case of personation had been reported to police in the Paisley and Renfrewshire North constituency.
At the Glasgow count, three cases are also being looked at while one is alleged in Stirling.
BBC.
Oh, this is wonderful.
Legitimately lost