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Yep, Labour supporters should even listen to Dan Hodges, as Owen's really just a cheerleader.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Good. One of the worst of the current crop of pretendy journalists.rottenborough said:
Not sounding too good.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Can someone check on Owen Jones?
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1205245084050083840
John Harris knew what was coming.
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Labour, a party for London by London.1
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Very happy to see Bridget Phillipson in Houghton and Sunderland survive the bloodbath .0
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I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours2 -
My tip from 30 min ago of 15 on 380-89 band now into 6.0
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All those nervous bedwetting PB Tories over the past few days, doubting the steady poll leads... Shame on you!
Some of us never doubted the tactics of locking Boris in the fridge!4 -
EPG said:
You were pretending to be a remainer a few months ago.Byronic said:
She's probably crying. Again. Hehnumbertwelve said:
Poor Anna. She's going to be apoplecticByronic said:Is anyone else consistently Twitter searching Ian Dunt, Jolyon Maugham, Anna Soubry. Mr Grieve, et al?
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Yes, I think it might well be somewhat out, especially since there are so many close contests, with four parties in play.Time_to_Leave said:Hmmm. Curtice casts doubt on SNP numbers.
I took it they have less coverage.
Could mean that the Tory majority is understated, of course!1 -
Swindon N soon!
Expect a smaller swing. Maj now 15%. Might go up to 23%. If swing more than 5% could be dodgy for LAB in South1 -
That would have been after a few drinks.EPG said:
You were pretending to be a remainer a few months ago.Byronic said:
She's probably crying. Again. Hehnumbertwelve said:
Poor Anna. She's going to be apoplecticByronic said:Is anyone else consistently Twitter searching Ian Dunt, Jolyon Maugham, Anna Soubry. Mr Grieve, et al?
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See you on the other side, BJO.bigjohnowls said:I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours0 -
We’re really just watching our voting system at work.Byronic said:YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
NEVER FUCK WITH THE BRITISH PEOPLE
IF THEY SAY LEAVE, THEY REALLY MEAN LEAVE
SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE
Underneath the seat results, roughly half the voters plumped for the Tories and BXP and roughly half for the LibDems, Labour and nationalists. Public opinion is no further forward than in 2016.2 -
Seems so. I did think that, but was told "that was then, this is now" etcByronic said:YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
NEVER FUCK WITH THE BRITISH PEOPLE
IF THEY SAY LEAVE, THEY REALLY MEAN LEAVE
SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE
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Yep - fair playJonathan said:
My call of 1983 result wasn't that far off.Casino_Royale said:
You and Sean Fear did well.TheScreamingEagles said:
My prediction wasn't far off.Casino_Royale said:Congrats to Robert Smithson.
Fantastic prediction.0 -
In the November poll the MRP had Blyth ValleyTheScreamingEagles said:
37 Con
43 Labour
9 Brexit
7 LD1 -
The first one was not so bad.Slackbladder said:0 -
Sammy Wilson. Heh. He can piss off, and when he’s pissed off he can piss off again. In fact Boris should invite them into Number 10 just so he can tell them to piss off.6
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The epitome of the current Labour malady: middle class uni grad that thinks he knows best.Floater said:
On that we can agreeJonathan said:
Jones is a fool.rottenborough said:
Not sounding too good.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Can someone check on Owen Jones?
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/12052450840500838401 -
Just got to my hotel in Berlin. Pleased I won’t need to seek asylum from the red terror tomorrow.0
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The numbers still wanting to leave or remain haven't shifted ; the organisation of leavers compared to remainers has, though.isam said:
Seems so. I did think that, but was told "that was then, this in now" etcByronic said:YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
NEVER FUCK WITH THE BRITISH PEOPLE
IF THEY SAY LEAVE, THEY REALLY MEAN LEAVE
SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE0 -
My NI friend reckons Dodds might be in trouble0
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The DUP just realised they have no influence now at all...0
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Hands up - I wobbled. I'm bang to rights. I thought there would be a Tory majority (up until 30 mins before the exit poll), but nothing like what it looks like.RobinWiggs said:All those nervous bedwetting PB Tories over the past few days, doubting the steady poll leads... Shame on you!
Some of us never doubted the tactics of locking Boris in the fridge!
2017 was an outlier. An aberration. But it made us all nervous.1 -
Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.0 -
Take care Johnbigjohnowls said:I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours0 -
Paisley.dr_spyn said:Some police action in Scotland re impersonation.
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SLab 2015 was a bit of forewarning.Jason said:Labour's vote share catastrophic. A fearful and bloody slaughter on the cards.
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John Harris also 'knew' it was coming in 2017.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Good. One of the worst of the current crop of pretendy journalists.rottenborough said:
Not sounding too good.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Can someone check on Owen Jones?
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1205245084050083840
John Harris knew what was coming.
He was wrong then and right now.0 -
LOL.Slackbladder said:The DUP just realised they have no influence now at all...
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Yeah! More people wanted to Leave!!WhisperingOracle said:
The numbers still wanting to leave or remain haven't shifted ; the organisation of leavers compared to remainers has, though.isam said:
Seems so. I did think that, but was told "that was then, this in now" etcByronic said:YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
NEVER FUCK WITH THE BRITISH PEOPLE
IF THEY SAY LEAVE, THEY REALLY MEAN LEAVE
SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE0 -
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.0 -
And what would have happened in the north leave seats...CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
If anything Corbyns Brexit policy was the smartest part of his policy work.0 -
Incorrect. Tories are over performing in more rural seats doing less better in city seats (but still well).WhisperingOracle said:As mentioned, the collected results so far look strong, but not like an 80 majority. There could be huge regional swings and variations, though.
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The first MRP had Blyth Valley remaining Labour by 6%.
The second MRP had it remaining Labour by 8%.0 -
Nina Hussain is a gorgeous woman, but honestly that dress; looks like she’s wearing a bin bag.0
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12.7 million dollars available to lay at 1.02.0
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Tragic to see Danny Wilson still think he can have some influence over the government! The DUP have been totally screwed and got what they deserved !0
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Ha ha.Slackbladder said:The DUP just realised they have no influence now at all...
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Those that don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it.bigjohnowls said:I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours
Foot 1983
Corbyn 20191 -
I want to be very wrong but I fear they won't be far off.Time_to_Leave said:Hmmm. Curtice casts doubt on SNP numbers.
I took it they have less coverage.0 -
Sweet.Pulpstar said:My NI friend reckons Dodds might be in trouble
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https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1205272251274350594
Jess going for it then, seems like all the lefties are out of the question.0 -
Have a good nights rest BJO -bigjohnowls said:I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours
It must be hard for you and I hope we can start healing wounds especially if labour can rid themselves of Corbyn1 -
In my opinion it's more to do with Corbyn than Brexit. I know a lot of people will dispute that due to the results probably being better for Labour in Remain areas.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.0 -
Quite so. We'll see Labour hold up much better in student/metropolitan seats, but they'll take a hammering outside them.Foxy said:
Blyth Valley has an unusually old population. High boomer count. 36.5% boomersnumbertwelve said:I never thought I would see the day that Blyth Valley voted for a Tory
Houghton and Sunderland South 35.9% boomer.
National average is 31.7%
Newcastle Central is 22.1% boomer.
I think this is why we are seeing differential swings between these seats.0 -
I'm hearing it is all over for Pidcock.1
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I don't doubt that it had a massive impact. But my point is that I don't see how a more pro-Remain leader would have stopped the BXP in the North from taking Labour votes?Andy_JS said:
In my opinion it's more to do with Corbyn than Brexit. I know a lot of people will dispute that due to the results probably being better for Labour in Remain areas.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.0 -
You guys never learn.IanB2 said:
We’re really just watching our voting system at work.Byronic said:YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
NEVER FUCK WITH THE BRITISH PEOPLE
IF THEY SAY LEAVE, THEY REALLY MEAN LEAVE
SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE
Underneath the seat results, roughly half the voters plumped for the Tories and BXP and roughly half for the LibDems, Labour and nationalists. Public opinion is no further forward than in 2016.0 -
Spreadsheet seems to be kicking in.0
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Can anyone point to a fourth term government being returned with an increased majority? It must be unprecedented. Maybe there's something weird in the 19th century, but otherwise?0
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Bolsover predicted Tory gain.
Durham NW as well.0 -
Don't underestimate the importance of Corbyn and Swinson not co-operating, though. That looks like it may have been an absolute disaster for Remain.murali_s said:
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.0 -
Is there anyone here not pleased to see the end of the DUP’s influence on the government?4
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True.Slackbladder said:
And what would have happened in the north leave seats...CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
If anything Corbyns Brexit policy was the smartest part of his policy work.
Corbyn's 2017 Brexit policy was more in line.
Following the Remainers after February was a big error.0 -
Slackbladder said:
The DUP just realised they have no influence now at all...
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It took 14 years to recover from this last time around.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Have a good nights rest BJO -bigjohnowls said:I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours
It must be hard for you and I hope we can start healing wounds especially if labour can rid themselves of Corbyn0 -
YES YES MAKE IT HAPPENAramintaMoonbeamQC said:I'm hearing it is all over for Pidcock.
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Batley and Spen.0
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ITV news have Labour on 4.0
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Good. Fed up with them.Slackbladder said:The DUP just realised they have no influence now at all...
Nutters of all shapes can now fade back into well-deserved obscurity. DUP, ERG, Corbynites. Bye bye. Piss off.0 -
I also enjoy the drug: cocaine.Byronic said:YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
NEVER FUCK WITH THE BRITISH PEOPLE
IF THEY SAY LEAVE, THEY REALLY MEAN LEAVE
SO IF THEY SAY DO IT, THEY MEAN DO IT, SO YOU JUST FUCKING GET IT DONE
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I just want to acknowledge your gracious earlier comment about the resultmurali_s said:
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
Good luck in returning your party to sanity0 -
I think that is right.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I don't doubt that it had a massive impact. But my point is that I don't see how a more pro-Remain leader would have stopped the BXP in the North from taking Labour votes?Andy_JS said:
In my opinion it's more to do with Corbyn than Brexit. I know a lot of people will dispute that due to the results probably being better for Labour in Remain areas.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
The remarkable result was in 2017, when Corby convinced both Labour Leavers & Remainers he was on their side.
Labour should have voted for May's deal. Then, the next election really would have been dominated by the issues on which Corbyn was strong.1 -
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Exit Poll putting Warrington North not just Warrington South as a potential Tory gain. Warrington North is rock solid safe Labour.0
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Who will get rid of the poison of the hard left?Jonathan said:
It took 14 years to recover from this last time around.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Have a good nights rest BJO -bigjohnowls said:I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours
It must be hard for you and I hope we can start healing wounds especially if labour can rid themselves of Corbyn
I really want to believe you can do it - but they hold the power now0 -
Lord, but I hate Jeremy Vine1
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She's mental. Labour would be wise to avoid at all costs.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1205272251274350594
Jess going for it then, seems like all the lefties are out of the question.0 -
Hemsworth and Cardiff North predicted Labour holds.
That would be surprising on these figures. But the whole bloody thing is surprising.0 -
I said yesterday that Enfield Southgate might be close, and it's now being forecast to go the Tories.0
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When this is all done it'll be fascinating to see how closely the electoral map in England and Wales resembles that of Leave vs Remain - particularly if we look at swing. There may be a lot of Tory holds on *reduced* majorities in Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex, the Thames Valley and parts of Hertfordshire.0
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Ave it calling Derby SOUTH for CON!!!0
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Cf Scottish Unionists.houndtang said:turns out calling people racists and fools for three and half years isn't a vote winner.
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I think Labour were screwed either way . If they entered a Remain alliance they would have suffered even more in those Labour Leave areas if that’s possible !WhisperingOracle said:
Don't underestimate the importance of Corbyn and Swinson not co-operating, though. That looks like it may have been an absolute disaster for Remain.murali_s said:
Starmer would have most likely lost, but he would not have been humiliated. This is much much more than Brexit. Corbyn was front and centre of the election campaign and the British people said no.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can I just make a quick point: this is a disaster due to Brexit but also Corbyn.
I can't believe a more pro-Remain leader in Starmer would have undone a Tory majority.
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Motherwell count: “lots of SNP smiles”
Counting 4 seats here: 3 SNP and 1 SLab (Coatbridge).
SLab saying that they have increased their majority in Coatbridge!!
Both SLab and SNP saying Exit Poll is WRONG.0 -
The unions hold the power.Floater said:
Who will get rid of the poison of the hard left?Jonathan said:
It took 14 years to recover from this last time around.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Have a good nights rest BJO -bigjohnowls said:I am off to bed shortly
Was told earlier The Beast of Bolsover was ahead but if Exit Poll correct that was clearly wrong.
PB Tories enjoy the next few hours
It must be hard for you and I hope we can start healing wounds especially if labour can rid themselves of Corbyn
I really want to believe you can do it - but they hold the power now0 -
Labour electing Thornberry or Starmer as leader would be about as barmy as them electing Corbyn, in the face of this.0
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Yes Pidcock long gone possibly by 3,000Slackbladder said:
YES YES MAKE IT HAPPENAramintaMoonbeamQC said:I'm hearing it is all over for Pidcock.
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SNP briefing that they may have taken Edinburgh South.
HUGE, IF TRUE.0 -
I shouldn’t be smug. But I can’t help but be so when I think of how poorly the puffed up remainer rebel alliance played their card in he past 6-12 months.
Grieve, Boles, Soubry, Chukka, Bercow - all thought they were so clever and could scheme to ignore the will of the people.
Well, the people just gave their verdict on that behaviour. It turns out they rather like to have their votes respected.
Don’t mess with the British voters when they give you an instruction.
Boris would do well to heed that message from his new voters. He must not let them down.2 -
Great threadheader.
Was my first thought when I saw the headline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrjRKB586s1 -
If Labour want these seats back, they need to unanimously come out in support of Brexit tomorrow morning.1
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Northern Ireland Update : Claire Hanna Has Had A HUGELY Positive Campaign.0
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Not sure what that translates too but I'll take itTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Chesterfield:
Lab 51% chance, Con 49%.1 -
Allegations of voting fraud are being investigated at a number of locations in Scotland as counting is under way in the 2019 UK general election.
Renfrewshire Council said a possible case of personation had been reported to police in the Paisley and Renfrewshire North constituency.
At the Glasgow count, three cases are also being looked at while one is alleged in Stirling.
BBC.0 -
I had a nibble on SLab in Coatbridge.StuartDickson said:Motherwell count: “lots of SNP smiles”
Counting 4 seats here: 3 SNP and 1 SLab (Coatbridge).
SLab saying that they have increased their majority in Coatbridge!!
Both SLab and SNP saying Exit Poll is WRONG.0 -
Perth count: SNP confident of Wishart hold.1
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Soames backtracking.
Oh, this is wonderful.2 -
I can't think Jess Phillips is going to be a pro-Brexit party? What on Earth can Labour do?
Legitimately lost0 -
It just clicked. Conservatives will have double the number of Labour seats.0