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I got up half and hour before I went to bed just to make sure I had a northern anecdote in the 2005 election.Drutt said:
Shortage of anecdotes? You were lucky.CorrectHorseBattery said:We really need some northern anecdotes
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So it didn't happen?Paristonda said:
It's a parody of a tweet from 2016 EU ref, where someone said their blind 93yr mum shouted at which box for leave, to cheers from the queuePhilip_Thompson said:
#ThatHappened 🙄CorrectHorseBattery said:
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Why would they urgently need them if it's in the bag?CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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Because it’s very close...RobD said:
Why would they urgently need one if it's in the bag?CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain0 -
Your opinion really is informative and interesting.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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Hardly 'glib'. The labour offer is clearly tilted at these areas. There is, of course, a corollary, given that labour are looking likely to lose 20% of their 2017 vote nationally.contrarian said:''Labour will do fine in metropolitan and commuter areas. ''
A somewhat glib assertion.
Many people in those constituencies work in and around financial services, an industry Mr Corbyn explicitly wants destroy.0 -
Thank you I’ll keep posting just for youcontrarian said:
Your opinion really is informative and interesting.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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If they're urgently needed in Chingford that means they haven't sealed the deal and it is moving away from them. Stop ramping, please.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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Mike : forget the economics (including Brexit) if you can. Think about fundamentals.MikeSmithson said:I've been sitting with the Ballot paper in front of me for nearly half an hour and am unable to make my mind up. I'm in a Leading marginal which flip-flops between LAB and CON and had decided to only vote tactically if I thought the result here was a foregone conclusion. There is only ever a few hundred votes in it in this constituency.
Johnson is a tosser but he won’t do irreparable harm. Corbyn is either evil or happy to facilitate evil.
Hold your nose and lend your vote to the Conservatives. If it ends up being Tories by 1 MP then you will have done a good thing in keeping Corbyn out. If it ends up with a large Tory majority you didn’t make a difference.0 -
So not yet a gain...CorrectHorseBattery said:
Because it’s very close...RobD said:
Why would they urgently need one if it's in the bag?CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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Or it means they’re incredibly close?nunu2 said:
If they're urgently needed in Chingford that means they haven't sealed the deal and it is moving away from them. Stop ramping, please.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
What did MRP say?0 -
Is the Red Roar kosher or one of those Russian Tory fakes? It is hard to keep up. I vaguely recall one of the supposedly Labour sites was knocked offline at the same time as Guido but am not sure it was this one.Nigelb said:
Is that a stop Berger effort by them ?CarlottaVance said:0 -
My apologies. I should have said a probable Labour gain.RobD said:
So not yet a gain...CorrectHorseBattery said:
Because it’s very close...RobD said:
Why would they urgently need one if it's in the bag?CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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Red Roar is Guido it’s trash0
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2% tory lead in Yougov, 9% lead in FocalData.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Or it means they’re incredibly close?nunu2 said:
If they're urgently needed in Chingford that means they haven't sealed the deal and it is moving away from them. Stop ramping, please.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
What did MRP say?0 -
O'Hagan getting here excuses in early.
It was the lack of canvassers wot lost it. Or the Russians interfered. Or that awful Kuenssberg person. Or.....0 -
How is it probable yet also very close? Consistency, please!CorrectHorseBattery said:
My apologies. I should have said a probable Labour gain.RobD said:
So not yet a gain...CorrectHorseBattery said:
Because it’s very close...RobD said:
Why would they urgently need one if it's in the bag?CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
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All very quiet here, might be the continous rain since heaven knows when.0
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Now they need help in Battersea.
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Not at all bad for the Tories, for every vote they retain/gain in London they lose in parts of the country that aren't safe as houses Labour seats.Foxy said:
This looks briskmwadams said:
I propose:RobD said:
Is it possible "brisk" alone is simply insufficient in these modern times? I propose we split it into "lightly brisk" and "heavily brisk".AramintaMoonbeamQC said:There was not a queue at my polling station in rural Scotland, but there were TWO other people, so I'm calling #brisk
"Brisk", "Steadily brisk", "Steady", "Sluggishly steady", "Sluggish", "Dead"
All of which can be appended with "which means it is looking pretty bad for [the enemy]".
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/12/longest-queues-ever-people-stand-line-around-block-vote-11771760/?ito=article.mweb.share.top.link
Not good for my low turnout bet, but bad for the Tories...0 -
There's not much that could persuade me to vote for IDS, but Ellie-Mae O'Hagan canvassing me in the other direction would definitely work. Like Owen Jones without the towering intellect.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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Maybe they should stop farting about in Finchley?CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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CorrectHorseBattery said:
Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
You mean, marginals might actually be marginal?! Gobsmacking1 -
Should have been put away ages ago, it's a Labour held seat in a very remain part of town. Very bad news for labour.CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
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Maybe I should rename myself to ObviousHorseBatterynumbertwelve said:CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
You mean, marginals might actually be marginal?! Gobsmacking0 -
She then duly marked her cross next to a picture of a tree, thinking it was a rose.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Just getting my coat.0 -
If true that's really bad for Labour. As it's 78% remain and has no significant libdem presence to split the vote it's the sort of seat where there should absolutely be a swing to labour, even on a solid tory lead.CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
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I think out of all of us here CHB you will be crushed the most if the result does not go your way. If it does goes your way, I'll take it on the chin and collect my winnings and watch Corbyn & co implode within 6 months and then enjoy a Tory landslide.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/zhirinovskiy/status/1205049055686119425
Oh look surprise surprise
But I'm worried about you CHB. Those words 'Tory majority' are going to make your head explode.1 -
Can I ask what your source is for this?CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
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Rain is setting in here in Norwich and for now the dead have stopped rising from their graves to vote for Clive and Jeremy. Just a lonely matchgirl huddled by the pub door clutching her Corbyn doll.1
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Not a fan of Corbyn, and genuinely sorry that she got treated in the way she did, it was disgusting. However, what did she expect? Tory win in Finchley anyway!TOPPING said:What would she know?
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I’ll be disappointed. Personally I’ll be better off under a Tory Government.Jason said:
I think out of all of us here CHB you will be crushed the most if the result does not go your way. If it does goes your way, I'll take it on the chin and collect my winnings and watch Corbyn & co implode within 6 months and then enjoy a Tory landslide.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/zhirinovskiy/status/1205049055686119425
Oh look surprise surprise
But I'm worried about you CHB. Those words 'Tory majority' are going to make your head explode.
But I’m sure people know that I’m always happy to hold my hands up when wrong.0 -
No.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Maybe I should rename myself to ObviousHorseBatterynumbertwelve said:CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
You mean, marginals might actually be marginal?! Gobsmacking
A quick competition on what you should rename yourself?0 -
Spun another way, Boris is planning to wreck the constitution by curbing the courts and parliament. Corbyn only wants to nationalise a bunch of things that can be re-privatised later.Charles said:
Mike : forget the economics (including Brexit) if you can. Think about fundamentals.MikeSmithson said:I've been sitting with the Ballot paper in front of me for nearly half an hour and am unable to make my mind up. I'm in a Leading marginal which flip-flops between LAB and CON and had decided to only vote tactically if I thought the result here was a foregone conclusion. There is only ever a few hundred votes in it in this constituency.
Johnson is a tosser but he won’t do irreparable harm. Corbyn is either evil or happy to facilitate evil.
Hold your nose and lend your vote to the Conservatives. If it ends up being Tories by 1 MP then you will have done a good thing in keeping Corbyn out. If it ends up with a large Tory majority you didn’t make a difference.0 -
Not sure the election itself was a mistake . The problem was the Lib Dems revoke position.
They should have portrayed themselves as the moderate choice but their revoke position looks a bit extremist even for some Remainers .
I think the deal would have eventually got through anyway , and let’s say it didn’t what the hell was the EU supposed to do in January .
Say okay there’s a few more months for MPs to argue and still not find a resolution .
The extension until the end of January was only granted because they thought an election was nailed on . Sorry to say but the EU just want rid of the UK now . A few countries might still hope there’d be a change of mind but these are a small minority .
I spend a lot of time in France , no one even talks about Brexit , the papers have only shown a bit more interest now because of the GE but before you’d be lucky to find an item that didn’t end up next to the personal ads !
I’m an ardent Remainer but seriously I think too many people don’t understand that for the EU they have a choice as to an unstable neighbour racked with toxicity and EU relations becoming a political football in every election or a neighbour where relations can be rebuilt once the air is let out of the Brexit balloon .
Brexit being done is clearly not going to happen quickly , the symbolism of leaving though is quite powerful and that will just by itself reduce some of the toxicity .
If the EU had really wanted to help stop Brexit they would have rolled the dice and not agreed a deal and then hoped against no deal in an election that Johnson would lose .
Everything changed once a deal was agreed . Because Ireland are very happy with that outcome the EU can rightly say they supported them and stood by what is a smallish country . No one can accuse the EU of not standing by one of their members .
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I like BrainwashedBattery, has a nice ring to itozymandias said:
No.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Maybe I should rename myself to ObviousHorseBatterynumbertwelve said:CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
You mean, marginals might actually be marginal?! Gobsmacking
A quick competition on what you should rename yourself?0 -
And they should have had their canvassing teams already organised and properly briefed.Nobidexx said:
If true that's really bad for Labour. As it's 78% remain and has no significant libdem presence to split the vote it's the sort of seat where there should absolutely be a swing to labour, even on a solid tory lead.CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
Which they probably did, to be fair. These sorts of report are almost certainly garbage.1 -
I would politely suggest you get a little less excitable and more balanced in your posts. The youth are turning out especially in London but if you read the Metro they are adding thousands of votes to already safe labour seatsCorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
I am not saying you are wrong in predicting a hung parliament but at the same time you lose creditability if you come over as some form of bot
Please do not take it personally, maybe just a bit if constructive criticsm, but please keep posting1 -
Methinks is one word, otherwise it's just poor grammar.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
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Thanks.CorrectHorseBattery said:Red Roar is Guido it’s trash
It is sensible to treat all tweets with a degree of scepticism.0 -
Yep... only communication i have had was a postal election address to one member of the household.chloe said:
Labour has been virtually invisible in Finchley and Golders Green despite coming a fairly close second last time.camel said:
Labour will do fine in metropolitan and commuter areas.CarlottaVance said:0 -
As returning officer at the Oxford Union I had an uncomfortable discussion with one of the elderly voters who was partially sighted - and rather deaf, so spoke loudly. I had to help him complete his ballot.Philip_Thompson said:
#ThatHappened 🙄CorrectHorseBattery said:
"Which one's the Jew boy?" "Oh I think that would be Mr Steiner" "Vote for him!"0 -
A visit from @HYUFD is very effective at getting out the Remainer vote...CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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I was having this conversation the other day. I think the your analysis of Johnson is accurate: he is awful, posturing, weak, lazy, and not half as clever as he thinks he is, but not actively evil. My problem is that people around him (DC?) who are *not* lazy, really are evil.Charles said:
Mike : forget the economics (including Brexit) if you can. Think about fundamentals.MikeSmithson said:I've been sitting with the Ballot paper in front of me for nearly half an hour and am unable to make my mind up. I'm in a Leading marginal which flip-flops between LAB and CON and had decided to only vote tactically if I thought the result here was a foregone conclusion. There is only ever a few hundred votes in it in this constituency.
Johnson is a tosser but he won’t do irreparable harm. Corbyn is either evil or happy to facilitate evil.
Hold your nose and lend your vote to the Conservatives. If it ends up being Tories by 1 MP then you will have done a good thing in keeping Corbyn out. If it ends up with a large Tory majority you didn’t make a difference.
So the question is, while holding your nose, which brand of evil are you backing?1 -
Has anyone voted LAB in Scotland yet?!
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All the best.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would politely suggest you get a little less excitable and more balanced in your posts. The youth are turning out especially in London but if you read the Metro they are adding thousands of votes to already safe labour seatsCorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
I am not saying you are wrong in predicting a hung parliament but at the same time you lose creditability if you come over as some form of bot
Please do not take it personally, maybe just a bit if constructive criticsm, but please keep posting0 -
I cant disagree with that. The maths of coming from the 2017 GE with so few competitive seats for them was hugely problematic regardless of the campaigning though. Getting dozens of close 2nd places would still be some progress even if they dont win many seats.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, I think that is right. On the other hand the LibDem campaign has been a straightforward disaster.noneoftheabove said:
I agree it was a mistake but the deal was very likely passing anyway, nearly all the tory rebels were only anti no dealers rather than 2nd reffers. Better it passes with a mandate and the country having had some chance to reject it if they want to. So the timing a minor rather than major mistake.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
People spent 6 months saying how Labour's policy of a second referendum after creating a plan were we to leave was impossible to sell.nico67 said:Not sure the election itself was a mistake . The problem was the Lib Dems revoke position.
They should have portrayed themselves as the moderate choice but their revoke position looks a bit extremist even for some Remainers .
I think the deal would have eventually got through anyway , and let’s say it didn’t what the hell was the EU supposed to do in January .
Say okay there’s a few more months for MPs to argue and still not find a resolution .
The extension until the end of January was only granted because they thought an election was nailed on . Sorry to say but the EU just want rid of the UK now . A few countries might still hope there’d be a change of mind but these are a small minority .
I spend a lot of time in France , no one even talks about Brexit , the papers have only shown a bit more interest now because of the GE but before you’d be lucky to find an item that didn’t end up next to the personal ads !
I’m an ardent Remainer but seriously I think too many people don’t understand that for the EU they have a choice as to an unstable neighbour racked with toxicity and EU relations becoming a political football in every election or a neighbour where relations can be rebuilt once the air is let out of the Brexit balloon .
Brexit being done is clearly not going to happen quickly , the symbolism of leaving though is quite powerful and that will just by itself reduce some of the toxicity .
If the EU had really wanted to help stop Brexit they would have rolled the dice and not agreed a deal and then hoped against no deal in an election that Johnson would lose .
Everything changed once a deal was agreed . Because Ireland are very happy with that outcome the EU can rightly say they supported them and stood by what is a smallish country . No one can accuse the EU of not standing by one of their members .
The Lib Dems went for a simple approach but it failed as soon as the election moved away from Brexit.0 -
How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here0
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I'll give you another anecdote. I live in a market town in East Riding (Greg Knight's constituency). I work from home. Polling station at the top of road. It's been really noticeable how many people are going to vote. Polling cards on display. Genuinely haven't seen this before on polling day. Went to cast my vote at 10am. It was... steady. One person out, one person in. No queues, but constant traffic.CorrectHorseBattery said:Thanks for the Yorkshire anecdote.
What's interesting is how many people have said that they really don't know who to vote for. LD/Green/Brexit/UKIP/Yorkshire votes wasted. Labour always respectable second. Don't want to vote Conservative.
As one person put it to me at the start of the week - "Both of them will s**t on you but do you want them to s**t on you and fix the potholes or s**t on you and spend a load of money?"3 -
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Can I ask what your source is for this?CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
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Probably a try and stay second push. Yougov MRP had it 27/23 to LD for second with a safe tory hold.Nigelb said:
Is that a stop Berger effort by them ?CarlottaVance said:0 -
Likewise in my station in Bootle. It was 11am. I've never voted at 11am before. Normally about 9am or about 7pm. So I can't tell anything from it.wooliedyed said:I just voted. No queue, normal flow in and out. I learned nothing from it.
It wasn't as busy as May at the EU elections (when I voted at 7pm) but that tells me nowt really. Two elderly people leaving when I arrived (Reckon they voted Labour). One person rushed in and out whilst I was there (reckon they voted Labour too). One person arrived as I was leaving (Reckon they'll vote Labour).
Prediction for my seat is a Labour HOLD.0 -
A choice between Dominic Cummins and Seamus Milne. You spoil us.mwadams said:
I was having this conversation the other day. I think the your analysis of Johnson is accurate: he is awful, posturing, weak, lazy, and not half as clever as he thinks he is, but not actively evil. My problem is that people around him (DC?) who are *not* lazy, really are evil.Charles said:
Mike : forget the economics (including Brexit) if you can. Think about fundamentals.MikeSmithson said:I've been sitting with the Ballot paper in front of me for nearly half an hour and am unable to make my mind up. I'm in a Leading marginal which flip-flops between LAB and CON and had decided to only vote tactically if I thought the result here was a foregone conclusion. There is only ever a few hundred votes in it in this constituency.
Johnson is a tosser but he won’t do irreparable harm. Corbyn is either evil or happy to facilitate evil.
Hold your nose and lend your vote to the Conservatives. If it ends up being Tories by 1 MP then you will have done a good thing in keeping Corbyn out. If it ends up with a large Tory majority you didn’t make a difference.
So the question is, while holding your nose, which brand of evil are you backing?0 -
Yeah completely random decision to target her right this minute.Mexicanpete said:
Not a fan of Corbyn, and genuinely sorry that she got treated in the way she did, it was disgusting. However, what did she expect? Tory win in Finchley anyway!TOPPING said:What would she know?
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No, stick with the name.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
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FlatBattery if it's a Tory majority.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
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If you can’t choose between two unpalatables - and I feel much the same - vote Lib Dem. It is at least what you believe in.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Spun another way, Boris is planning to wreck the constitution by curbing the courts and parliament. Corbyn only wants to nationalise a bunch of things that can be re-privatised later.Charles said:
Mike : forget the economics (including Brexit) if you can. Think about fundamentals.MikeSmithson said:I've been sitting with the Ballot paper in front of me for nearly half an hour and am unable to make my mind up. I'm in a Leading marginal which flip-flops between LAB and CON and had decided to only vote tactically if I thought the result here was a foregone conclusion. There is only ever a few hundred votes in it in this constituency.
Johnson is a tosser but he won’t do irreparable harm. Corbyn is either evil or happy to facilitate evil.
Hold your nose and lend your vote to the Conservatives. If it ends up being Tories by 1 MP then you will have done a good thing in keeping Corbyn out. If it ends up with a large Tory majority you didn’t make a difference.0 -
Just had the LibDem get the vote out crowd come down the street in the driving rain. Fair play to them: they’re putting the work in. (OxWAB if anyone cares.)0
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If I understand the origin of your name correctly, you can choose whatever you like provided it is at least 15 digits long and has one upper case letter, one lower case, one number and a punctuation mark.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I like BrainwashedBattery, has a nice ring to itozymandias said:
No.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Maybe I should rename myself to ObviousHorseBatterynumbertwelve said:CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
You mean, marginals might actually be marginal?! Gobsmacking
A quick competition on what you should rename yourself?
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TheValiant said:
Likewise in my station in Bootle. It was 11am. I've never voted at 11am before. Normally about 9am or about 7pm. So I can't tell anything from it.wooliedyed said:I just voted. No queue, normal flow in and out. I learned nothing from it.
It wasn't as busy as May at the EU elections (when I voted at 7pm) but that tells me nowt really. Two elderly people leaving when I arrived (Reckon they voted Labour). One person rushed in and out whilst I was there (reckon they voted Labour too). One person arrived as I was leaving (Reckon they'll vote Labour).
Prediction for my seat is a Labour HOLD. 0 -
Turnout not very brisk in East Surrey this lunchtime. Plenty of folks around town shopping and having coffee, but wife and I were the only people voting.0
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DeadBattery?Jason said:
FlatBattery if it's a Tory majority.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
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And you CHBCorrectHorseBattery said:
All the best.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would politely suggest you get a little less excitable and more balanced in your posts. The youth are turning out especially in London but if you read the Metro they are adding thousands of votes to already safe labour seatsCorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
I am not saying you are wrong in predicting a hung parliament but at the same time you lose creditability if you come over as some form of bot
Please do not take it personally, maybe just a bit if constructive criticsm, but please keep posting0 -
I hope Bojo has trolled Neil today and phoned to offer him an interview0
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Or the Labour GOTV is not working.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
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Any info regarding Boris's seat?0
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Very true about lack of brexit interest in France. My colleagues and even my wife are so fed up they just want to kick us out. My wife got partly Brexit Party on a "who to vote for" test because she's so sick of us titting about (she's very much pro EU generally, just wants us gone). Can't speak for other European countries but the French will not be particularly sorrowful on January 31st.nico67 said:Not sure the election itself was a mistake . The problem was the Lib Dems revoke position.
They should have portrayed themselves as the moderate choice but their revoke position looks a bit extremist even for some Remainers .
I think the deal would have eventually got through anyway , and let’s say it didn’t what the hell was the EU supposed to do in January .
Say okay there’s a few more months for MPs to argue and still not find a resolution .
The extension until the end of January was only granted because they thought an election was nailed on . Sorry to say but the EU just want rid of the UK now . A few countries might still hope there’d be a change of mind but these are a small minority .
I spend a lot of time in France , no one even talks about Brexit , the papers have only shown a bit more interest now because of the GE but before you’d be lucky to find an item that didn’t end up next to the personal ads !
I’m an ardent Remainer but seriously I think too many people don’t understand that for the EU they have a choice as to an unstable neighbour racked with toxicity and EU relations becoming a political football in every election or a neighbour where relations can be rebuilt once the air is let out of the Brexit balloon .
Brexit being done is clearly not going to happen quickly , the symbolism of leaving though is quite powerful and that will just by itself reduce some of the toxicity .
If the EU had really wanted to help stop Brexit they would have rolled the dice and not agreed a deal and then hoped against no deal in an election that Johnson would lose .
Everything changed once a deal was agreed . Because Ireland are very happy with that outcome the EU can rightly say they supported them and stood by what is a smallish country . No one can accuse the EU of not standing by one of their members .0 -
just checking, is it OK to share turnout information passed on from polling station staff to candidates?0
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InaccurateCounterBattery ?CorrectHorseBattery said:
DeadBattery?Jason said:
FlatBattery if it's a Tory majority.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
In all seriousness, I do hope you’d realise I’d take it in good grace if I am wrong.0 -
It’s Uxbridge i think. West London anyway.Jason said:Any info regarding Boris's seat?
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Cruel. 😆Foxy said:
A visit from @HYUFD is very effective at getting out the Remainer vote...CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
HY has been very honest in how tight he had been finding it.0 -
Indeed. Life will go on, regardless.CorrectHorseBattery said:
DeadBattery?Jason said:
FlatBattery if it's a Tory majority.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
In all seriousness, I do hope you’d realise I’d take it in good grace if I am wrong.0 -
Ho ho ho.Fysics_Teacher said:
It’s Uxbridge i think. West London anyway.Jason said:Any info regarding Boris's seat?
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This, I think, is key. As a right of centre person I've always regarded the LibDems (and predecessors) as "the sensible ones", the party that could stand between the extremes that the two larger parties occasionally drift off to. The not-too-hot, not-too-cold porridge party.nico67 said:Not sure the election itself was a mistake . The problem was the Lib Dems revoke position.
They should have portrayed themselves as the moderate choice but their revoke position looks a bit extremist even for some Remainers.
But this "revoke" stance has made me call into question their entire ethos and not just their approach to Brexit. I do wonder if it'll do long term damage to their reputation amongst the moderate Tories and Labour supporters they'd normally appeal to.
Having said that, they'll now probably go on to win 30+ seats tonight and confound us all :-)
WillS.
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You can tell little from the fervent rumours during the day. It may be correct, it may not. Posters all have a reason for tweeting their thoughts.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
Far better to wait for anecdotes on here from people we know and trust, or who we know are connected to party operations and might legitimately have some insights.0 -
I think it's four words, all lower case letters, to make it easy to rememberviewcode said:
If I understand the origin of your name correctly, you can choose whatever you like provided it is at least 15 digits long and has one upper case letter, one lower case, one number and a punctuation mark.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I like BrainwashedBattery, has a nice ring to itozymandias said:
No.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Maybe I should rename myself to ObviousHorseBatterynumbertwelve said:CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
You mean, marginals might actually be marginal?! Gobsmacking
A quick competition on what you should rename yourself?
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Relentless rain in Birmingham, although it's not heavy so far.0
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Fysics_Teacher said:
It’s Uxbridge i think. West London anyway.Jason said:Any info regarding Boris's seat?
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It may well turn out to be bollocks but;ralphmalph said:
Or the Labour GOTV is not working.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
https://twitter.com/AngstromHoot/status/1205104246573715456
https://twitter.com/AngstromHoot/status/1205113095338762240
https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/12051135381105418240 -
As party tellers can work work it out themselves I would have thought so unless there is a rule against it.Freggles said:just checking, is it OK to share turnout information passed on from polling station staff to candidates?
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You are all very mean to Mr Battery! He might be right, although I hope not. Remember Plato and Trump.Nigelb said:
InaccurateCounterBattery ?CorrectHorseBattery said:
DeadBattery?Jason said:
FlatBattery if it's a Tory majority.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
In all seriousness, I do hope you’d realise I’d take it in good grace if I am wrong.1 -
It is raining quite heavily in the desolate North.
Not seen anyone whippet racing, if they won’t race whippets in this weather then they won’t go out and vote either.0 -
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It's in their interests to crate a panic. In short, know one knows what is going on, anywhere any of the time. It'll all come out at 10pm....brokenwheel said:
It may well turn out to be bollocks but;ralphmalph said:
Or the Labour GOTV is not working.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/misselliemae/status/1205113837382447104
Me thinks it’s a Labour gain
https://twitter.com/AngstromHoot/status/1205104246573715456
https://twitter.com/AngstromHoot/status/1205113095338762240
https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/12051135381105418242 -
The suggestion was more for the pun than out of any malicious intent.GarethoftheVale2 said:
You are all very mean to Mr Battery! He might be right, although I hope not. Remember Plato and Trump.Nigelb said:
InaccurateCounterBattery ?CorrectHorseBattery said:
DeadBattery?Jason said:
FlatBattery if it's a Tory majority.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
In all seriousness, I do hope you’d realise I’d take it in good grace if I am wrong.0 -
thatwasmypointTrèsDifficile said:
I think it's four words, all lower case letters, to make it easy to rememberviewcode said:
If I understand the origin of your name correctly, you can choose whatever you like provided it is at least 15 digits long and has one upper case letter, one lower case, one number and a punctuation mark.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I like BrainwashedBattery, has a nice ring to itozymandias said:
No.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Maybe I should rename myself to ObviousHorseBatterynumbertwelve said:CorrectHorseBattery said:Now they need help in Battersea.
Both marginals, interesting
You mean, marginals might actually be marginal?! Gobsmacking
A quick competition on what you should rename yourself?
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My son was similarly conflicted with his first vote - disliking both leaders in our tight marginal of Alyn & Deeside. I advised him to look at the teams around the leader for competence, and the need for a stable government to do other stuff that wasn't Brexit.Charles said:
Mike : forget the economics (including Brexit) if you can. Think about fundamentals.MikeSmithson said:I've been sitting with the Ballot paper in front of me for nearly half an hour and am unable to make my mind up. I'm in a Leading marginal which flip-flops between LAB and CON and had decided to only vote tactically if I thought the result here was a foregone conclusion. There is only ever a few hundred votes in it in this constituency.
Johnson is a tosser but he won’t do irreparable harm. Corbyn is either evil or happy to facilitate evil.
Hold your nose and lend your vote to the Conservatives. If it ends up being Tories by 1 MP then you will have done a good thing in keeping Corbyn out. If it ends up with a large Tory majority you didn’t make a difference.
In those terms he thought it was a clear indication to vote Conservative - the thought of Abbott, Burgon Gardiner and McDonnell in offices of state was a worry for him in a way that Gove, Javid, etc weren't.0 -
By adopting the name IncorrectHorseBattery.CorrectHorseBattery said:
DeadBattery?Jason said:
FlatBattery if it's a Tory majority.CorrectHorseBattery said:How about BotBattery? Seems to be good and agrees with the Tories here
In all seriousness, I do hope you’d realise I’d take it in good grace if I am wrong.1 -
All this Boris hate. He did a fine job as London mayor. Decent start as PMmwadams said:
I was having this conversation the other day. I think the your analysis of Johnson is accurate: he is awful, posturing, weak, lazy, and not half as clever as he thinks he is, but not actively evil. My problem is that people around him (DC?) who are *not* lazy, really are evil.Charles said:
Mike : forget the economics (including Brexit) if you can. Think about fundamentals.MikeSmithson said:I've been sitting with the Ballot paper in front of me for nearly half an hour and am unable to make my mind up. I'm in a Leading marginal which flip-flops between LAB and CON and had decided to only vote tactically if I thought the result here was a foregone conclusion. There is only ever a few hundred votes in it in this constituency.
Johnson is a tosser but he won’t do irreparable harm. Corbyn is either evil or happy to facilitate evil.
Hold your nose and lend your vote to the Conservatives. If it ends up being Tories by 1 MP then you will have done a good thing in keeping Corbyn out. If it ends up with a large Tory majority you didn’t make a difference.
So the question is, while holding your nose, which brand of evil are you backing?0 -
True, I also think that for Macron he sees Brexit as a way to increase France’s influence and standing both in Europe and globally .Paristonda said:
Very true about lack of brexit interest in France. My colleagues and even my wife are so fed up they just want to kick us out. My wife got partly Brexit Party on a "who to vote for" test because she's so sick of us titting about (she's very much pro EU generally, just wants us gone). Can't speak for other European countries but the French will not be particularly sorrowful on January 31st.nico67 said:Not sure the election itself was a mistake . The problem was the Lib Dems revoke position.
They should have portrayed themselves as the moderate choice but their revoke position looks a bit extremist even for some Remainers .
I think the deal would have eventually got through anyway , and let’s say it didn’t what the hell was the EU supposed to do in January .
Say okay there’s a few more months for MPs to argue and still not find a resolution .
The extension until the end of January was only granted because they thought an election was nailed on . Sorry to say but the EU just want rid of the UK now . A few countries might still hope there’d be a change of mind but these are a small minority .
I spend a lot of time in France , no one even talks about Brexit , the papers have only shown a bit more interest now because of the GE but before you’d be lucky to find an item that didn’t end up next to the personal ads !
I’m an ardent Remainer but seriously I think too many people don’t understand that for the EU they have a choice as to an unstable neighbour racked with toxicity and EU relations becoming a political football in every election or a neighbour where relations can be rebuilt once the air is let out of the Brexit balloon .
Brexit being done is clearly not going to happen quickly , the symbolism of leaving though is quite powerful and that will just by itself reduce some of the toxicity .
If the EU had really wanted to help stop Brexit they would have rolled the dice and not agreed a deal and then hoped against no deal in an election that Johnson would lose .
Everything changed once a deal was agreed . Because Ireland are very happy with that outcome the EU can rightly say they supported them and stood by what is a smallish country . No one can accuse the EU of not standing by one of their members .
I think he feels the UK will become diminished on the world stage which I agree will happen .0 -
Sam Tarry is going to absolubtely crush Gapes.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Spiteful bastards.....Nigelb said:
Is that a stop Berger effort by them ?CarlottaVance said:0 -
These turnout queues are staggering and they are looking like mainly young voters. If I remember the polling turnout figures had more moderate turnout figures. This could be very close.1
