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In the panel above from new YouGov polling published this afternoon there is clear support for a final referendum on a deal or if nothing can be agreed a no deal.
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The solution, therefore, is to have a referendum on whether we should have a referendum. So we'll only have a referendum on the deal if the people speak through a referendum demanding a referendum.
In the GE, there will be a split on the Remain side (Lab vs LD) and a split on the Leave side (Con vs Brx). Each side will be half the country but the exact splits matter. Labour's vile leadership means they have a limited ceiling, but if the Lib Dems make a true breakthrough that could change things to unify that side. Equally if Leavers are stupid enough to follow Farage, that could split Leave and stop Brexit (for now).
Makes no sense for them to want this.
Of course, no further extensions by the EU forces the MPs to do their job - and decide.
Tory voters by 46% to 27% also believe MPs should have the final say on any new Deal.
Support for another referendum only gets over 50% in the event of No Deal and then only narrowly to 52%
Linking to Boris Johnson
Linking to MPs vs public
It is heavily loaded.
The PM of course, as it should have been since the moment we voted to leave. They agree a deal with the EU, that's it.
It's noteworthy that Conservatives and Leavers who are most anti parliament are also the ones who think (without apparent enthusiasms it must be said) that parliament should make the decision.
https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1177587102105690112
If another referendum ripped any party apart it would be Corbyn Labour, where the recent Labour conference saw the party vote by the narrowest of margins not to commit to campaign for Remain against the wishes of most Labour members and where most Labour voters voted Remain but most Labour seats voted Leave.
I don't want another referendum but it could be win win for the Tories provided Boris campaigned for Leave, if Remain wins narrowly Boris can be Alex Salmond 2 and win a landslide at the next general election under FPTP thanks to furious Leavers wanting revenge as the SNP did in 2015 after the narrow No vote in 2014.
If Leave wins again Boris would be triumphant as would the Tories with the Remainer parties shattered
Do you really think that the Irish are going to think, "this plan crosses every one of our red lines but, you know what, Gareth Snell voted for it so it's a yes from us"?
You think MPs have made a mess of the Brexit process....fair enough, a lot of people would agree with that. But what makes you think they'll be any more competent and/or able to find consensus when they have to put together the post-Brexit immigration system? Or when they're negotiating trade deals with the USA or Commonwealth countries or wherever?
Of course the mystery is that if a referendum on the final deal would be so great for the Tories it’s strange they don’t want to have one. Ummmm
There's been mutterings that the EU didn't see any point compromising as they didn't think a deal would get through Parliament even if they did. If they see a deal can be ratified that ups the ante.
Especially when part of the reason not to was thinking the UK wouldn't ratify it.
1. Anna Soubry wins in 2017 by 800 votes (1.5%) over Labour.
2. The constituency association chair initiates a survey of members whether they'd like to deselect her.
3. He's told to stop it and withdraw the survey.
4. AS defects to ChUK.
5. The LibDems decide to stand as well.
6. The Tories reject their Council leader as a candidate (allegedly because he was too friendly with AS) and choose someone from Wiltshire
See the latest according to this (admittedly anti-Tory) local website:
https://beestonia.wordpress.com/2019/10/03/blue-on-blue-brox-tories-go-to-war-on-brox-tories/
Richard Jackson, who they passed over, has been prominent in Broxtowe politics longer than I have (pre-97).
There should therefore be 5 candidates:
Tory from Wiltshire
Soubry
Labour
LibDems
Brexit
The seat voted 52% Leave though it has a large town, Beeston, which is demographically like Hampstead).
You're not going to change anybodys mind banging on about this when you have some evidence then try again
Always the labour politician trying to discredit the Lib Dems even if you do it subtly
My daughter's Halls of Residence are Broadgate Park. Is that within the Broxtowe constituency? I ask because they are a very large halls which I expect would mean a lot of LD or Soubry leaning votes.
Useful information: if and when you use a phone box, be aware than none of them take the new £1 coins. You have to use 50, 20 and 10 pence coins.
It would be hilarious if it was amended to include a second vote .
Genius...
So you would support Jeremy Corbyn. You change with the wind. What kind of a supporter or man of principle do you call yourself?
Well I first thought it was a replacement for those things called public conveniences
I get that Johnson's Deal is really a political manouevre for his domestic market. But it needs to be underpinned by a real deal.
If Theresa May had handled it differently we would be out of the EU by now. The referendum result should be honoured but the Cons played party politics (as was their right albeit it was stupid) and therefore so did Labour.
It's all been perfectly democratic (and legal of course).
So you have nothing to complain about; indeed you should be rejoicing. That you would vote differently in a referendum doesn't I'm afraid speak well of your integrity or consistency.
It could let someone lend out there mobile phone and charge a premium
for the call? Could be a small earner for local shop owners.