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No, He was against Brexit! He said it would limit his travel and immigrants would depress his wage as non-EU immigrants would depress his earning potential!spudgfsh said:
when he said he'd vote to remain, was that to remain in the pub?The_Taxman said:Just to say!
Talking to a bloke in a Halifax in a pub. He would vote to remain! I will see what others think...0 -
We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.0
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A bit of both. Quite a lot of people are actually still doing well. Plenty of others pretend that they are with the aid of forgiving credit card providers.another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.0 -
*cough* household debt *cough*another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.0 -
That was a very clever piece of matching. Lots of Labour votes to pick up as well.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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I am not saying this is necessarily true but those survey numbers could result from people who previously didn't spend much no longer being able to afford to go out, thus causing the average spend amongst those still going out to rise.another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.0 -
Well if society rewards lying with becoming PM or president why wouldnt an ambitious politician become a habitual liar, rather than an occasional one. The habitual one gets a pass for anything, the occasional ones get sacked when they are caught.StuartDickson said:
He’s a habitual liar.AlastairMeeks said:Well this is a good look:
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This might be more appropriate.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.
https://archive.cartoons.ac.uk/GetMultimedia.ashx?db=Catalog&type=default&fname=LSE4323.jpg0 -
More likely realizing that they may as well enjoy life rather than save for that deposit which is beyond them or whatever maybe life’s to shortanother_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.0 -
Yes but it also illustrates that the headline 33% of Troy Remainer Voters means that it does very little damage to the Torys. Unless the tory remain vote is concentrated in certain seats it will not mean Lib Dem victories in Tory land,spudgfsh said:
it doesn't take maths to work that one out. just look at the overall numbers for Labour and compare it to the last GE. They've lost anywhere between 17 and 20% in vote share. those votes are not going Tory but LD / Green / SNP / PCralphmalph said:Somebody can check my Maths but my workings are Con L/R split 70:30,
Con got 42.4% in 2017. So 33% of 30% is 10%. So overall 4..2% is added to the LD score. This was 7.4% in 2017, so where is the rest of the LD bounce coming from and this remainer part is the largest. Well can only be the trots.
PS I by mistake hit the offtopic button on your post, I apologise for my fat fingers.0 -
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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Halifax bomber!Nigelb said:
How many Halifaxes are there ?The_Taxman said:Just to say!
Talking to a bloke in a Halifax in a pub. He would vote to remain! I will see what others think...
(I’m aware of the Canadian one, but still.)
Or did he bring his WWII bomber in with him ?
They wasted large parts of Germany!
It meant a shorter WW11!0 -
Those Troy Remainers have been on something of an odyssey.ralphmalph said:
Yes but it also illustrates that the headline 33% of Troy Remainer Voters means that it does very little damage to the Torys. Unless the tory remain vote is concentrated in certain seats it will not mean Lib Dem victories in Tory land,spudgfsh said:
it doesn't take maths to work that one out. just look at the overall numbers for Labour and compare it to the last GE. They've lost anywhere between 17 and 20% in vote share. those votes are not going Tory but LD / Green / SNP / PCralphmalph said:Somebody can check my Maths but my workings are Con L/R split 70:30,
Con got 42.4% in 2017. So 33% of 30% is 10%. So overall 4..2% is added to the LD score. This was 7.4% in 2017, so where is the rest of the LD bounce coming from and this remainer part is the largest. Well can only be the trots.
PS I by mistake hit the offtopic button on your post, I apologise for my fat fingers.
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11? Are there 9 I have missed?The_Taxman said:
Halifax bomber!Nigelb said:
How many Halifaxes are there ?The_Taxman said:Just to say!
Talking to a bloke in a Halifax in a pub. He would vote to remain! I will see what others think...
(I’m aware of the Canadian one, but still.)
Or did he bring his WWII bomber in with him ?
They wasted large parts of Germany!
It meant a shorter WW11!0 -
If this is a median answer it is way over what I would expect. Or is the cost for a couple or perhaps for big nights out rather than an average night out. No way the median average person spends that on an average night out.another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
Of course it could be marketing from a leisure chain encouraging people to spend more or be seen as tight, which lazy bbc journalists report as news.0 -
Hit it a second time to undo your off topic fat finger damage.ralphmalph said:
Yes but it also illustrates that the headline 33% of Troy Remainer Voters means that it does very little damage to the Torys. Unless the tory remain vote is concentrated in certain seats it will not mean Lib Dem victories in Tory land,spudgfsh said:
it doesn't take maths to work that one out. just look at the overall numbers for Labour and compare it to the last GE. They've lost anywhere between 17 and 20% in vote share. those votes are not going Tory but LD / Green / SNP / PCralphmalph said:Somebody can check my Maths but my workings are Con L/R split 70:30,
Con got 42.4% in 2017. So 33% of 30% is 10%. So overall 4..2% is added to the LD score. This was 7.4% in 2017, so where is the rest of the LD bounce coming from and this remainer part is the largest. Well can only be the trots.
PS I by mistake hit the offtopic button on your post, I apologise for my fat fingers.0 -
I understand that Labour’s candidate has stepped down after a bit of controversy.ThomasNashe said:
That was a very clever piece of matching. Lots of Labour votes to pick up as well.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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Tbf he did mention he was in the pub in Halifax - the Black Sheep is obviously flowing.Beibheirli_C said:
11? Are there 9 I have missed?The_Taxman said:
Halifax bomber!Nigelb said:
How many Halifaxes are there ?The_Taxman said:Just to say!
Talking to a bloke in a Halifax in a pub. He would vote to remain! I will see what others think...
(I’m aware of the Canadian one, but still.)
Or did he bring his WWII bomber in with him ?
They wasted large parts of Germany!
It meant a shorter WW11!
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SeanT?Benpointer said:
Tbf he did mention he was in the pub in Halifax - the Black Sheep is obviously flowing.Beibheirli_C said:
11? Are there 9 I have missed?The_Taxman said:
Halifax bomber!Nigelb said:
How many Halifaxes are there ?The_Taxman said:Just to say!
Talking to a bloke in a Halifax in a pub. He would vote to remain! I will see what others think...
(I’m aware of the Canadian one, but still.)
Or did he bring his WWII bomber in with him ?
They wasted large parts of Germany!
It meant a shorter WW11! -1 -
That might be a factor.Benpointer said:
I am not saying this is necessarily true but those survey numbers could result from people who previously didn't spend much no longer being able to afford to go out, thus causing the average spend amongst those still going out to rise.another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
There are certainly people struggling but, for example, the great horde of oldies who regularly eat out is something which didn't happen a generation ago.0 -
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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the remain vote isn't what could hurt the tories. it's the brexit flank which could do more damage. I can't predict what'll happen at the next election though. it's a shake-em-up election. both Tory and Labour are losing LOTS of voters it just depends on where and who to.ralphmalph said:
Yes but it also illustrates that the headline 33% of Troy Remainer Voters means that it does very little damage to the Torys. Unless the tory remain vote is concentrated in certain seats it will not mean Lib Dem victories in Tory land,spudgfsh said:
it doesn't take maths to work that one out. just look at the overall numbers for Labour and compare it to the last GE. They've lost anywhere between 17 and 20% in vote share. those votes are not going Tory but LD / Green / SNP / PCralphmalph said:Somebody can check my Maths but my workings are Con L/R split 70:30,
Con got 42.4% in 2017. So 33% of 30% is 10%. So overall 4..2% is added to the LD score. This was 7.4% in 2017, so where is the rest of the LD bounce coming from and this remainer part is the largest. Well can only be the trots.
PS I by mistake hit the offtopic button on your post, I apologise for my fat fingers.
we all suffer from FFS every so often.0 -
another_richard said:
Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
I've had a couple of evenings in the pub with a friends recently and I don't think any of us got through more than £20 (four beers, some chips). Really looking forward to this £170 Leo Sayer All Dayer to get back up to the average.0 -
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
Cities of London and Westminsterchloe said:
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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Spending those ever-increasing triple lock pensions before Jezza brings in 100% inheritance tax?another_richard said:
That might be a factor.Benpointer said:
I am not saying this is necessarily true but those survey numbers could result from people who previously didn't spend much no longer being able to afford to go out, thus causing the average spend amongst those still going out to rise.another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
There are certainly people struggling but, for example, the great horde of oldies who regularly eat out is something which didn't happen a generation ago. 0 -
If inheritance tax is set at 100% they will be spending it even quicker...Benpointer said:
Spending those ever-increasing triple lock pensions before Jezza brings in 100% inheritance tax?another_richard said:
That might be a factor.Benpointer said:
I am not saying this is necessarily true but those survey numbers could result from people who previously didn't spend much no longer being able to afford to go out, thus causing the average spend amongst those still going out to rise.another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
There are certainly people struggling but, for example, the great horde of oldies who regularly eat out is something which didn't happen a generation ago.0 -
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
The lying liar lies again. I'd be more surprised if a journalist caught him telling the truth.AlastairMeeks said:Well this is a good look:
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It might be interesting to have data on how consumer spending varies according to the housing affordability of an area.nichomar said:
More likely realizing that they may as well enjoy life rather than save for that deposit which is beyond them or whatever maybe life’s to shortanother_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
Not only would you have more incentive to save towards a deposit where housing is affordable but it must be psychologically depressing (and so more likely to seek immediate pleasures) to live someone when you are never likely to buy a house.0 -
I hadn't spotted that. Quite a brave move but who knows, it could pay off.Black_Rook said:
Cities of London and Westminsterchloe said:
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.2 -
Hittite out the park....Benpointer said:
Those Troy Remainers have been on something of an odyssey.ralphmalph said:
Yes but it also illustrates that the headline 33% of Troy Remainer Voters means that it does very little damage to the Torys. Unless the tory remain vote is concentrated in certain seats it will not mean Lib Dem victories in Tory land,spudgfsh said:
it doesn't take maths to work that one out. just look at the overall numbers for Labour and compare it to the last GE. They've lost anywhere between 17 and 20% in vote share. those votes are not going Tory but LD / Green / SNP / PCralphmalph said:Somebody can check my Maths but my workings are Con L/R split 70:30,
Con got 42.4% in 2017. So 33% of 30% is 10%. So overall 4..2% is added to the LD score. This was 7.4% in 2017, so where is the rest of the LD bounce coming from and this remainer part is the largest. Well can only be the trots.
PS I by mistake hit the offtopic button on your post, I apologise for my fat fingers.0 -
Did any PBer vote Brexit Party in the European elections given they came first and the LDs were second?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
If the Lib Dems are targeting an area you'll get tonnes of bumpf through the letter box.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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Are you implying we're not representative of the country at large?!AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
Far fewer spending on going abroad, now that the £ is down there with the African currencies?another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.0 -
He would go for 100% income tax on high earners first, it would be less unpopularBenpointer said:
Spending those ever-increasing triple lock pensions before Jezza brings in 100% inheritance tax?another_richard said:
That might be a factor.Benpointer said:
I am not saying this is necessarily true but those survey numbers could result from people who previously didn't spend much no longer being able to afford to go out, thus causing the average spend amongst those still going out to rise.another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
There are certainly people struggling but, for example, the great horde of oldies who regularly eat out is something which didn't happen a generation ago.
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We're certainly not a scientifically selected sampleBenpointer said:
Are you implying we're not representative of the country at large?!AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
As someone with a bet on Labour to win Streatham at 6/4, I was delighted.Benpointer said:
I hadn't spotted that. Quite a brave move but who knows, it could pay off.Black_Rook said:
Cities of London and Westminsterchloe said:
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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Now? 5.....not_on_fire said:
Genuine question: how many LD leavers are/were there?HYUFD said:Opinium also has 32% of 2017 Labour Remainers now voting LD and 21% of 2017 Labour Leavers now voting Tory and 37% of 2017 LD Leavers now also voting Tory.
https://www.opinium.co.uk/political-polling-11th-september-2019-2/0 -
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
I looked at the timing of the improvement in the Lib Dems polling share and it followed very clearly their good results in first the local, and then the European, elections.Casino_Royale said:Interesting to see how low that number was even as late as May.
Plenty of shit had already hit the fan by then. The difference is Boris.
Before the credibility gained from these good election results, people weren't willing to tell pollsters they'd vote Lib Dem. Even though when it came to it they did vote Lib Dem. Perhaps there was a cleansing effect, dispelling the legacy from the Coalition, by seeing that other people were willing to put immediate concerns above recent history.
It predated the Conservative leadership election anyway.0 -
I'm on that one too, I've gone for the Tories in the Cities of London & Westminster mind.AlastairMeeks said:
As someone with a bet on Labour to win Streatham at 6/4, I was delighted.Benpointer said:
I hadn't spotted that. Quite a brave move but who knows, it could pay off.Black_Rook said:
Cities of London and Westminsterchloe said:
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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Glad I'm watching the athletics not the footie.....-1
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30% of 2015 LD voters voted Leavenot_on_fire said:
Genuine question: how many LD leavers are/were there?HYUFD said:Opinium also has 32% of 2017 Labour Remainers now voting LD and 21% of 2017 Labour Leavers now voting Tory and 37% of 2017 LD Leavers now also voting Tory.
https://www.opinium.co.uk/political-polling-11th-september-2019-2/
https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/0 -
StuartDickson said:
He’s a habitual liar.AlastairMeeks said:Well this is a good look:
https://twitter.com/joepike/status/1178709920872636416?s=21
In any situation, his minds turns immediately to “what do I have to say to get out of this?”. Whether it is true or not doesn’t come into it.0 -
Well somebody has to looking at the empty stadiumMarqueeMark said:Glad I'm watching the athletics not the footie.....
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£20 for four beers and some chips ???Drutt said:another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
I've had a couple of evenings in the pub with a friends recently and I don't think any of us got through more than £20 (four beers, some chips). Really looking forward to this £170 Leo Sayer All Dayer to get back up to the average.
Without going all Monty Python you could do that for a tenner in parts of Yorkshire 0 -
I was planning on voting Brexit party for the Euros (mainly to try to symmetricise the England/Scotland vote) but was too agoraphobic on the day.HYUFD said:
Did any PBer vote Brexit Party in the European elections given they came first and the LDs were second?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
Thanks I think the lack of an answer from most means a No, which shows how strongly Remain or anti hard Brexit PB has now become with a few exceptionsJBriskinindyref2 said:
I was planning on voting Brexit party for the Euros (mainly to try to symmetricise the England/Scotland vote) but was too agoraphobic on the day.HYUFD said:
Did any PBer vote Brexit Party in the European elections given they came first and the LDs were second?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
Glasgow is a sectarian hell-hole. It's your choice to live there. Although I admit the locals were quite friendly for the couple of pints I've had there (Blur concert)Theuniondivvie said:
It's the Unionists that march (sometimes several times) every week round my bit, and they seem to have a deep, unnatural attachment to a part of another island.JBriskinindyref2 said:
It's the same F-ing Island as someone once famously (to me at least) stated on PB.spudgfsh said:
There's a growing sense of English identity in a fashion which Scotland and Wales have always had. There is very little left that actually fosters a British identity anymore. Probably only the olympics?Byronic said:
Not in England. You over-estimate the desire in England to stay linked to the Scots, after the first indyref, and Brexit. A large minority, maybe a majority of English people would quite happily say goodbye to Scotland and Edinburgh's perceived drag on the English treasury.JBriskinindyref2 said:There'd be a shortage of champers in the UK after a 60/40 vote.
I am not one of them. I am a convinced English unionist and a happy Briton, I don't want Scotland to go, but I can see the polls on English perceptions, and I can sense the mood around me.
We don't need to go on marches every week like the Yessers.0 -
Streatham is the only constituency bet I’ve placed. I’m not ready to place any more because politics is so volatile right now.Pulpstar said:
I'm on that one too, I've gone for the Tories in the Cities of London & Westminster mind.AlastairMeeks said:
As someone with a bet on Labour to win Streatham at 6/4, I was delighted.Benpointer said:
I hadn't spotted that. Quite a brave move but who knows, it could pay off.Black_Rook said:
Cities of London and Westminsterchloe said:
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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No shortage of that either:IanB2 said:
Far fewer spending on going abroad, now that the £ is down there with the African currencies?another_richard said:Austerity update:
Britons are spending more on a night out than at any point in the last three years, a survey suggests.
Club and bar chain Deltic found the average person spent £70.69 on a night out in the three months to September.
That is up 25% on the same period last year and the highest since October 2016 when the survey began.
Deltic surveyed 2,300 people about all sorts of nights out, including trips to the cinema, restaurants, pubs and nightclubs.
The survey found that during the three months to the end of September, 61% of people went on a night out at least once a week, up from 56.2% last year.
Spending increased on every component of the evening - from drinks at home and transport, to entry fees, food and alcohol bought at venues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49873533
Possibly not the most 'scientific' of surveys but it does show that many, many people are doing very well currently.
Or at least spending in that way.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/leisureandtourism/timeseries/gmbb/ott
And there's plenty of PBers giving accounts of their ocean cruises and travels across America.
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Halifax is normally a Labour - leaning marginal - though Tory-held 1983 - 87 and also 1955 -64. Labour had a clear win there in 2017 - though it might be close next time.The_Taxman said:
Yes, but not at this time! I am in halifax and to be fair have heard no political chat! But will investigate.justin124 said:
Huddersfield!The_Taxman said:
I would rather not say as i dont thiink it will add anything! But it is a pro-EU MP who lost his rag in the last few weeks in parlament! That to the people who follow political discourse will perhaps give a clue to my locationn? Or maybe not!justin124 said:
Which constituency?The_Taxman said:I am torn between supporting LD and Labour to preseve a pro-EU Labour MP. It depends on the polls! I used to vote Tory but under BoJo and his extreamist stance I cannot support that!
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Did anything of any note happen in the House of Commons today?0
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Er naw..Benpointer said:
Are you implying we're not representative of the country at large?!AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
How high does it have to get to make any difference to the senate republicans voting? 60? 65?rottenborough said:0 -
Shocked, I am.TGOHF2 said:
Er naw..Benpointer said:
Are you implying we're not representative of the country at large?!AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
Crowd a bit better tonight. The Ethiopians turned up.HYUFD said:
Well somebody has to looking at the empty stadiumMarqueeMark said:Glad I'm watching the athletics not the footie.....
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Whatever the Nixon figure was I guess.noneoftheabove said:
How high does it have to get to make any difference to the senate republicans voting? 60? 65?rottenborough said:0 -
Shadsy made Lib Dems favourites in the Cities of London & WestminsterAlastairMeeks said:
Streatham is the only constituency bet I’ve placed. I’m not ready to place any more because politics is so volatile right now.Pulpstar said:
I'm on that one too, I've gone for the Tories in the Cities of London & Westminster mind.AlastairMeeks said:
As someone with a bet on Labour to win Streatham at 6/4, I was delighted.Benpointer said:
I hadn't spotted that. Quite a brave move but who knows, it could pay off.Black_Rook said:
Cities of London and Westminsterchloe said:
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
When I do, I expect my default will be to back second favourites.0 -
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The destruction of the peace and good manners of England continues:
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/11786591186194677770 -
I feel sorry for the athletes. What a farce. Sport is enveloped in corruption.HYUFD said:
Well somebody has to looking at the empty stadiumMarqueeMark said:Glad I'm watching the athletics not the footie.....
How many clean sports are left? Netball? Pony trekking? Shinty?
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I can't decide whether Boris will win a 200 seat majority or get badly defeated.0
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Arsenal fourth best team in London.
If they let two more goals in, they are fifth behind Palace. Must be relieved Fulham got relegated......0 -
To sway the most GOP 1/3 + 1, I'd say more like 75 or 80.noneoftheabove said:
How high does it have to get to make any difference to the senate republicans voting? 60? 65?rottenborough said:0 -
You can forget the former; the latter is a distinct possibility.AndyJS said:I can't decide whether Boris will win a 200 seat majority or get badly defeated.
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Lib Dems winning here.TGOHF2 said:
Er naw..Benpointer said:
Are you implying we're not representative of the country at large?!AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.
Meanwhile, back in the real world...0 -
That's a myth. Noone knows their NI number off by heart 😂FrancisUrquhart said:
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
On a longer historical timeline, we used to put people in the stocks and hurl mouldy veg at them...rottenborough said:The destruction of the peace and good manners of England continues:
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/11786591186194677770 -
I do. it's AB123456CTabman said:
That's a myth. Noone knows their NI number off by heart 😂FrancisUrquhart said:
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.
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Perhaps the first time the words Francois and subtle have ever appeared in the same sentence ?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/30/hardline-conservative-brexiters-open-door-to-support-for-deal
Francois’ comments were seen as a subtle shift in approach for the ERG, whose support could unlock a deal for Boris Johnson....
Truly, we live in strange times.0 -
Finchley and Golders Green (Shadsy)chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
LD 4/5
Con 5/4
Lab 8/11 -
This is a popular misconception. The NI number is not the same as the NHS number. The NHS number is a 9 digit number which you only ever know when you change your doctor!spudgfsh said:
I do. it's AB123456CTabman said:
That's a myth. Noone knows their NI number off by heart 😂FrancisUrquhart said:
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.
(edit: not really but I do know it by heart)
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New market - next GE
Reading East (Lab Maj 3,749; Matt Rodda MP)
Con EVS
Lab EVS
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So do I. 😬spudgfsh said:
I do. it's AB123456CTabman said:
That's a myth. Noone knows their NI number off by heart 😂FrancisUrquhart said:
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.
(edit: not really but I do know it by heart)0 -
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What’s the thinking behind having a sectarian loyalist icon as your avatar?TGOHF2 said:And how many would still vote LD when we have left by the time of the election ?
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I think that's a constituency with a high student population.StuartDickson said:New market - next GE
Reading East (Lab Maj 3,749; Matt Rodda MP)
Con EVS
Lab EVS
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The local Labour party is in complete disarray, they have not been allowed to start the process of selecting a candidate and AFAIK there has been no leaflets or other activity since Chuka went. The Lib Dems had a solid base before 2010 but the coalition years saw them lose all their councillors and their vote melted away - the main local opposition to Labour is now the Greens. But even so I think Labour would hold the seat.AlastairMeeks said:
As someone with a bet on Labour to win Streatham at 6/4, I was delighted.Benpointer said:
I hadn't spotted that. Quite a brave move but who knows, it could pay off.Black_Rook said:
Cities of London and Westminsterchloe said:
Has Chuka been selected for a seat elsewhere?anothernick said:
We are getting a lot from the Lib Dems in Streatham as well. Even though Chuka has decamped and the LDs are running a new and unknown candidate.chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
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Nige (Farage) will see that as Private Francois waving a white flag.Nigelb said:Perhaps the first time the words Francois and subtle have ever appeared in the same sentence ?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/30/hardline-conservative-brexiters-open-door-to-support-for-deal
Francois’ comments were seen as a subtle shift in approach for the ERG, whose support could unlock a deal for Boris Johnson....
Truly, we live in strange times.0 -
I disagree with about 50% of LD policies but usually end up voting for them anyway. It might be different if I lived in a Con/Lab marginal.0
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StuartDickson said:
Finchley and Golders Green (Shadsy)chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
LD 4/5
Con 5/4
Lab 8/1
Those odds are ridiculous. This is a seat where the LDs polled less than 7% last time and less than 4% in 2015.
The value there is the 8/1 on Labour.
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Only three years until we have a whole football World Cup of empty stadia.StuartDickson said:
I feel sorry for the athletes. What a farce. Sport is enveloped in corruption.HYUFD said:
Well somebody has to looking at the empty stadiumMarqueeMark said:Glad I'm watching the athletics not the footie.....
How many clean sports are left? Netball? Pony trekking? Shinty?0 -
I have no idea who Kenny is, but I think angry dismissals of this type are wearing a bit thin now. Have the sensitivities of a community residing both within a state and outside of it ever been dealt with in such a painstaking way as those of the nationalist community are by the UK at the moment?Scott_P said:0 -
Are you implying that there are some who do not???FrancisUrquhart said:
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.0 -
Know both my US and UK national insurance/social security numbers by heart ... now. Went 25 years without using my UK number, and lost the card to had to get a replacement. The first thing I did was memorize the number.Daveyboy1961 said:
This is a popular misconception. The NI number is not the same as the NHS number. The NHS number is a 9 digit number which you only ever know when you change your doctor!spudgfsh said:
I do. it's AB123456CTabman said:
That's a myth. Noone knows their NI number off by heart 😂FrancisUrquhart said:
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.
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If the Labour Party wasn’t led by a Cold War relic.SirBenjamin said:StuartDickson said:
Finchley and Golders Green (Shadsy)chloe said:We are getting lots of Lib Dem leaflets in Finchley and Golders Green. They certainly seem to be fighting hard here. As a remain voter and former Conservative voter I will be voting for Luciana Berger.
LD 4/5
Con 5/4
Lab 8/1
Those odds are ridiculous. This is a seat where the LDs polled less than 7% last time and less than 4% in 2015.
The value there is the 8/1 on Labour.0 -
One issues for moderates of any sort (remainers and leavers, centre right and centre left, One Nation, social democrat etc) is that of competence. Neither labour nor Conservative have shown the much trace of ordinary political competence, consistency or trustworthiness recently. If you want a government with these features at the moment the LDs look the least tainted choice.0
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Is this some kind of attempt at satire?Luckyguy1983 said:
I have no idea who Kenny is, but I think angry dismissals of this type are wearing a bit thin now. Have the sensitivities of a community residing both within a state and outside of it ever been dealt with in such a painstaking way as those of the nationalist community are by the UK at the moment?Scott_P said:1 -
He's a journalist on the Scotsman, which is one of the more rabidly British nationalist newspapers in Scotland.Luckyguy1983 said:
I have no idea who Kenny is, but I think angry dismissals of this type are wearing a bit thin now. Have the sensitivities of a community residing both within a state and outside of it ever been dealt with in such a painstaking way as those of the nationalist community are by the UK at the moment?Scott_P said:0 -
Doesn’t everyone?spudgfsh said:
I do. it's AB123456CTabman said:
That's a myth. Noone knows their NI number off by heart 😂FrancisUrquhart said:
Voters who know their NI numbers off by heart?AlastairMeeks said:
PB is the perfect demographic for the Lib Dems.Benpointer said:
Given the numbers on here switching to the LDs, and recognising how PBers are such trend-setters, I predict a Lib Dem landslide at the next GE!Beibheirli_C said:
As a life long floating voter, I have switched to the LDs.ThomasNashe said:
And I’m a life long Labourite who’s switched to the LDs. Reminds me of that famous VE day picture of the Russians and Americans shaking hands in the middle of Berlin.M.Partridge said:I can believe this.
As a life long Tory, I have now switched to Lib Dems.
(edit: not really but I do know it by heart)
(Although I do occasionally get a call from one of my siblings who’s forgotten theirs, as they’re sequential).0 -
Don’t depress me.Sandpit said:
Only three years until we have a whole football World Cup of empty stadia.StuartDickson said:
I feel sorry for the athletes. What a farce. Sport is enveloped in corruption.HYUFD said:
Well somebody has to looking at the empty stadiumMarqueeMark said:Glad I'm watching the athletics not the footie.....
How many clean sports are left? Netball? Pony trekking? Shinty?
International sporting championships should have a No Dictatorships rule.0
