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Blimey!Byronic said:As a way of calming things, here's some soothing if off-topic news
THE SWEDISH NAVY IS RETURNING TO ITS VAST UNDERGROUND LAIR
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/30/swedish-navy-returns-to-vast-underground-hq-amid-russia-fears0 -
How could I have missed them with Corbyn spouting some rubbish about them every PMQs? But what's that got to do with a 35 hour working week.nichomar said:
Never heard of zero hours contracts Mr B?Mortimer said:
Quite a lot of people I know work a 35 hour week.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Noone works 35 hours a week.Casino_Royale said:I think this means a full time (35 hours a week working 233 days a year) wage is about £17,100 in 2024, but that equates to about £15,500 today, in real terms, so not quite as generous as it looks in nominal.
I’d hope The Saj would cut employer NI rates to help them pay for it too, and mitigate impact on employment.0 -
What’s the difference between nation living wage and the minimum wage? Is one voluntary?Drutt said:
The 32 hours a week policy, on the same review, is actually a policy that nobody gets a pay rise for eight years but at the end you'll only be working four days a week.JBriskinindyref2 said:
I, for one, am totally losing my shit over it.Drutt said:
If you look back through my postings you'll recognise I'm nothing of the sort. I don't like the idea of a government telling employees and employers what the price of the former's labour must be at all. I do, though, like to see a greater labour share of income. I don't think NMW or NLW is the best way to go about itSunnyJim said:
CPI is running at 1.7%.Drutt said:
It's 5.5% a year. Average wage inflation is 4% right now.
The Tories are offering OVER 3 TIMES the current rate of inflation to the lowest paid in society.
You would have to be a swivel-eyed Labour drone to criticize that.
But the figures are the figures. It's an increase, but in the context of current wage growth it's a modest increase. We shouldn't lose our shit over it.
Labour were a calling with their banning of private schools and 32 hours.
But Tories have just played their pocket rockets.
I judge parties by their policies and I can sit on the fence no more.
Also bear in mind that if you're on NMW now, the best way to get a raise over a five year period is not to wait for HMG to mandate it for you0 -
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.0 -
Hmm, "Blofeld" sounds pretty Swedish when you think about it.Byronic said:As a way of calming things, here's some soothing if off-topic news
THE SWEDISH NAVY IS RETURNING TO ITS VAST UNDERGROUND LAIR
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/30/swedish-navy-returns-to-vast-underground-hq-amid-russia-fears0 -
Maybe that’s the master plan all along. Cummings and Gove hype Boris up to do mad things. Gove inherits the Earth as a moderating influence. Cummings and Gove were close.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.0 -
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.0 -
Any replacement Tory PM would immediately be impaled on the do-or-die deadline, which is now firmly established as the most solemn vow of the Tory death-cult.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.0 -
You mean Cummings has wargamed this?Jonathan said:
Maybe that’s the master plan all along. Cummings and Gove hype Boris up to do mad things. Gove inherits the Earth as a moderating influence. Cummings and Gove were close.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.0 -
Wouldn’t ‘die’ have been the outcome?Richard_Nabavi said:
Any replacement Tory MP would immediately be impaled on the do-or-die deadline, which is now firmly established as the most solemn vow of the Tory death-cult.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.0 -
We’re finding out (in slow motion) just why Gove knifed him the first time round.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.
Maybe this is the ultimate vindication for him.0 -
Yes, but the replacement would be expected to honour the pledge.Jonathan said:
Wouldn’t ‘die’ have been the outcome?Richard_Nabavi said:
Any replacement Tory MP would immediately be impaled on the do-or-die deadline, which is now firmly established as the most solemn vow of the Tory death-cult.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.0 -
It is surely one of the infinite possibilities he has navigated.Casino_Royale said:
You mean Cummings has wargamed this?Jonathan said:
Maybe that’s the master plan all along. Cummings and Gove hype Boris up to do mad things. Gove inherits the Earth as a moderating influence. Cummings and Gove were close.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.0 -
Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?1
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Gove is unelectable, perhaps the only way Corbyn could win a general election would be to face Gove.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.
Gove is a behind the scenes man not a leader, in any case even if he ceases to be PM rather than agree an extension Boris would remain Tory leader and Leader of the Opposition so no vacancy for Gove. Corbyn is certainly not going to make Gove PM to extend0 -
So you have decided to surrender your humanity?JBriskinindyref2 said:
Tories are third in my constituency, LDs lost, or came close to, losing their deposit.malcolmg said:
The only Tory in the villageJBriskinindyref2 said:https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1178680485574299653?s=20
I've voting Tory.
Hello everyone, my name is JBriskinindref2 - and I am now officially a PB Tory
I might have a flutter.0 -
I would expect it to be won for sure. The Tories seem hellbent on forcing the issue.SunnyJim said:
If Boris gets Brexit done either pre or post GE what would you estimate the likelihood of Sindyref 2 being won by the SNP?malcolmg said:I see Boris is trying to get Scotland back on side.
Boris Johnson tells ScotTories he will block Scotland's First Minister from COP26 global climate change summit in Glasgow and cover it in union flags
It would surely be greater than 50/50 would it not?0 -
I don’t think so.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, but the replacement would be expected to honour the pledge.Jonathan said:
Wouldn’t ‘die’ have been the outcome?Richard_Nabavi said:
Any replacement Tory MP would immediately be impaled on the do-or-die deadline, which is now firmly established as the most solemn vow of the Tory death-cult.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.0 -
The sequel. Do or die harder? Seriously, why don’t all the headbangers have a week in charge. The party would be back to its senses by Christmas. And we can all move on.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, but the replacement would be expected to honour the pledge.Jonathan said:
Wouldn’t ‘die’ have been the outcome?Richard_Nabavi said:
Any replacement Tory MP would immediately be impaled on the do-or-die deadline, which is now firmly established as the most solemn vow of the Tory death-cult.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.0 -
I have to agree, Gove is such a bellend.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/11787087158574161920 -
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.
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Yes. Theresa May and, oddly, David Cameron.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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Only if No DealSunnyJim said:
If Boris gets Brexit done either pre or post GE what would you estimate the likelihood of Sindyref 2 being won by the SNP?malcolmg said:I see Boris is trying to get Scotland back on side.
Boris Johnson tells ScotTories he will block Scotland's First Minister from COP26 global climate change summit in Glasgow and cover it in union flags
It would surely be greater than 50/50 would it not?0 -
No. Not yet at least.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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LOL, we would have some two bit nobody lording it over us with saltire banned , mind you we already have the two bit nobody in place.Noo said:
Do you think he would be doing that if the FM was a Conservative?malcolmg said:I see Boris is trying to get Scotland back on side.
Boris Johnson tells ScotTories he will block Scotland's First Minister from COP26 global climate change summit in Glasgow and cover it in union flags
https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/11786211600466329600 -
There are limits, rewarding work is a Tory policy, nationalising industries is notkinabalu said:
What about nationalising the trains?HYUFD said:Good move from Javid to promise to raise the minimum wage, targeted at precisely the working class Leave voters the Tories need to win a Tory majority
Tomorrow?0 -
He has a face for radio but not the voice to go with itHYUFD said:
Gove is unelectable, perhaps the only way Corbyn could win a general election would be to face Gove.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.
Gove is a behind the scenes man not a leader, in any case even if he ceases to be PM rather than agree an extension Boris would remain Tory leader and Leader of the Opposition so no vacancy for Gove. Corbyn is certainly not going to make Gove PM to extend0 -
RubbishHYUFD said:
Only if No DealSunnyJim said:
If Boris gets Brexit done either pre or post GE what would you estimate the likelihood of Sindyref 2 being won by the SNP?malcolmg said:I see Boris is trying to get Scotland back on side.
Boris Johnson tells ScotTories he will block Scotland's First Minister from COP26 global climate change summit in Glasgow and cover it in union flags
It would surely be greater than 50/50 would it not?0 -
Javid surprisingly weak, is it just me? Is his heart in it?0
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"He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future." You could call it the English Socialism Party.Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
Edgerton is good, although these days he ploughs a lonely furrow. His thesis is that the modern view of twentieth-century Britain as a nation in decline is not borne out by the experiences of those at the time nor the facts, and that it and its Empire was an equal to the US and USSR and capable of remarkable innovation and growth. I figure the Leavers would like him because he regards the EU as unnecessary, and the Labour would like him because he regards Thatcher as a diversion. As the Anglosphere Leavers intend to treat the UK like the Daleks intended to treat the Earth, I think this might be a good way forward for the left instead of the hollowed-out shell of Corbynism. If OGH permits, I'll do a review next year.The_Taxman said:
Both! I am drawn to the former!viewcode said:
Which one: Edgerton or Gaddis?The_Taxman said:
Ii have not see that!viewcode said:I was in Waterstones on Saturday, buying "The Rise and Fall of the British Nation: A Twentieth-Century History" (David Edgerton, ISBN: 9780141975979) when I noticed "The Cold War" by John Lewis Gaddis. I had a look at his Waterstone's page[1] and he looks interesting. Has anybody read Gaddis and if so, what did you think?
[1] https://www.waterstones.com/author/john-lewis-gaddis/60177
Might be worth a look!0 -
He's never been a very good speaker.Jonathan said:Javid surprisingly weak, is it just me? Is his heart in it?
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For those that like courtroom drama .
A new case set to start in Scotland later in the week to effectively allow a remedy if Bozo refuses to sign the extension letter.
This is likely to end up in the Supreme Court and centres around the nobile officium.
Essentially a clerk of the Scottish court can sign the extension letter to effect remedy .
This does bring up though a difficult scenario for the EU who don’t want to be drawn in to this and would rather just have an extension letter from the PM.0 -
Lord North. Possibly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
So, in short, the Labour Party?Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
That did make me laugh!malcolmg said:
He has a face for radio but not the voice to go with itHYUFD said:
Gove is unelectable, perhaps the only way Corbyn could win a general election would be to face Gove.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.
Gove is a behind the scenes man not a leader, in any case even if he ceases to be PM rather than agree an extension Boris would remain Tory leader and Leader of the Opposition so no vacancy for Gove. Corbyn is certainly not going to make Gove PM to extend0 -
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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Scott tweets a random Arsenal fan who seems to like all of his own tweets.
I’m convinced...
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And Gordon BrownByronic said:
Yes. Theresa May and, oddly, David Cameron.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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Thank you for the synopsis!viewcode said:
Edgerton is good, although these days he ploughs a lonely furrow. His thesis is that the modern view of twentieth-century Britain as a nation in decline is not borne out by the experiences of those at the time nor the facts, and that it and its Empire was an equal to the US and USSR and capable of remarkable innovation and growth. I figure the Leavers would like him because he regards the EU as unnecessary, and the Labour would like him because he regards Thatcher as a diversion. As the Anglosphere Leavers intend to treat the UK like the Daleks intended to treat the Earth, I think this might be a good way forward for the left instead of the hollowed-out shell of Corbynism. If OGH permits, I'll do a review next year.The_Taxman said:
Both! I am drawn to the former!viewcode said:
Which one: Edgerton or Gaddis?The_Taxman said:
Ii have not see that!viewcode said:I was in Waterstones on Saturday, buying "The Rise and Fall of the British Nation: A Twentieth-Century History" (David Edgerton, ISBN: 9780141975979) when I noticed "The Cold War" by John Lewis Gaddis. I had a look at his Waterstone's page[1] and he looks interesting. Has anybody read Gaddis and if so, what did you think?
[1] https://www.waterstones.com/author/john-lewis-gaddis/60177
Might be worth a look!
I will try to look at this!
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It is a shame. But I'm a policy focused kinda guy. And 10 fifty was just what the doctor ordered.justin124 said:
So you have decided to surrender your humanity?JBriskinindyref2 said:
Tories are third in my constituency, LDs lost, or came close to, losing their deposit.malcolmg said:
The only Tory in the villageJBriskinindyref2 said:https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1178680485574299653?s=20
I've voting Tory.
Hello everyone, my name is JBriskinindref2 - and I am now officially a PB Tory
I might have a flutter.0 -
Boris hasn't been shown up, he is just willing to fight the diehard Remainers in the Commons and they can't stand being talked back to rather than having a PM they ignored and walked all over like Mayspudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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Boris Johnson is as bad as GB!HYUFD said:
And Gordon BrownByronic said:
Yes. Theresa May and, oddly, David Cameron.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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He has some great qualities but PM is not the right outlet for them. He would be better suited to a more ceremonial role. High viz but without too much - and preferably any - direct power. Something like a mascot.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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Boris is the Hans Gruber of British Politics.HYUFD said:
Boris hasn't been shown up, he is just willing to fight the diehard Remainers in the Commons and they can't stand being talked back to rather than having a PM they ignored and walked all over like Mayspudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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Gove is that kid at school that nobody likes.malcolmg said:
He has a face for radio but not the voice to go with itHYUFD said:
Gove is unelectable, perhaps the only way Corbyn could win a general election would be to face Gove.Byronic said:
Weirdly, I suspect Gove would make a pretty good PM in terms of his cleverness and adaptability.Casino_Royale said:
Gove is always on manoeuvres. He can’t help himself.Scott_P said:If I laugh any harder I will injure myself...
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1178708715857416192
It’s why I’ve got him covered as next PM.
Trouble is he is horribly tainted now, and he looks a bit like something out Eraserhead, the Director's Cut.
Gove is a behind the scenes man not a leader, in any case even if he ceases to be PM rather than agree an extension Boris would remain Tory leader and Leader of the Opposition so no vacancy for Gove. Corbyn is certainly not going to make Gove PM to extend0 -
Rowland or Hammond?Luckyguy1983 said:0 -
The guy was even replying to himself repeatedly before a couple of remainers half-hardheartedly arrived to offer vague support of the hopeful kind.TGOHF2 said:Scott tweets a random Arsenal fan who seems to like all of his own tweets.
I’m convinced...
I think it is reasonable to infer the well of succour for remainers is pretty much dry.0 -
How top secret can a base on an island of just 11 square miles be? Presumably one could quite easily find it?Richard_Nabavi said:
Blimey!Byronic said:As a way of calming things, here's some soothing if off-topic news
THE SWEDISH NAVY IS RETURNING TO ITS VAST UNDERGROUND LAIR
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/30/swedish-navy-returns-to-vast-underground-hq-amid-russia-fears0 -
You actually listen to him? I just stare at him wondering how he managed to cram his mouth, eyes and nose into the bottom quarter of this head.Richard_Nabavi said:
He's never been a very good speaker.Jonathan said:Javid surprisingly weak, is it just me? Is his heart in it?
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https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1178692865221939201?s=20Jonathan said:Javid surprisingly weak, is it just me? Is his heart in it?
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Sitting on a beach earning 20 percentJonathan said:
Boris is the Hans Gruber of British Politics.HYUFD said:
Boris hasn't been shown up, he is just willing to fight the diehard Remainers in the Commons and they can't stand being talked back to rather than having a PM they ignored and walked all over like Mayspudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
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TGOHF2 said:
Scott tweets a random Arsenal fan who seems to like all of his own tweets.
I’m convinced...
Is that William of Orange on your avatar?0 -
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/23/partick-thistle-mascot-david-shrigley-kingleykinabalu said:
He has some great qualities but PM is not the right outlet for them. He would be better suited to a more ceremonial role. High viz but without too much - and preferably any - direct power. Something like a mascot.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
Like this one? But it's in Glasgow, so probably neither he nor the city would regard each other as suitable.0 -
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)Jonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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Coincidences happen all the time: doesn’t mean a thing. Byronic was simply plagiarising an above average insight from Sean Thomas. I agree he should have acknowledged the reference but it’s hardly a capital offence.Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.-1 -
JohnO are you still a Conservative (ie have you left the party)?JohnO said:
Coincidences happen all the time: doesn’t mean a thing. Byronic was simply plagiarising an above average insight from Sean Thomas. I agree he should have acknowledged the reference but it’s hardly a capital offence.Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
Tories reward inheritance more than work.HYUFD said:
There are limits, rewarding work is a Tory policy, nationalising industries is notkinabalu said:
What about nationalising the trains?HYUFD said:Good move from Javid to promise to raise the minimum wage, targeted at precisely the working class Leave voters the Tories need to win a Tory majority
Tomorrow?
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Indeed. It's merely a coincidence. What other explanation could there possibly be?JohnO said:
Coincidences happen all the time: doesn’t mean a thing. Byronic was simply plagiarising an above average insight from Sean Thomas. I agree he should have acknowledged the reference but it’s hardly a capital offence.Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.1 -
I am very much a Conservative and Indeed the life and soul of the Party.Jonathan said:
JohnO are you still a Conservative (ie have you left the party)?JohnO said:
Coincidences happen all the time: doesn’t mean a thing. Byronic was simply plagiarising an above average insight from Sean Thomas. I agree he should have acknowledged the reference but it’s hardly a capital offence.Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
I sincerely wonder if democracy itself is doable in the internet age, amidst the whirling madness of social media. China has it right, in some ways. Tragically,Jonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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SeanT must be lurking on here, watching what I write! Wanker.JohnO said:
Coincidences happen all the time: doesn’t mean a thing. Byronic was simply plagiarising an above average insight from Sean Thomas. I agree he should have acknowledged the reference but it’s hardly a capital offence.Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
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Credit to SeanT for leading us on for this long (or to Byronic for having laid this tempting trail of 18th dynasty breadcrumbs)Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.
Ps it's culturally insensitive not to refer to Akhetaten by his chosen pronoun Amenhotep III.0 -
No it doesn't, China has brutal suppression of opposition, human rights abuses and slowing economic growth.Byronic said:
I sincerely wonder if democracy itself is doable in the internet age, amidst the whirling madness of social media. China has it right, in some ways. Tragically,Jonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
Democratic India does it better0 -
+1No_Offence_Alan said:
Tories reward inheritance more than work.HYUFD said:
There are limits, rewarding work is a Tory policy, nationalising industries is notkinabalu said:
What about nationalising the trains?HYUFD said:Good move from Javid to promise to raise the minimum wage, targeted at precisely the working class Leave voters the Tories need to win a Tory majority
Tomorrow?0 -
They reward both, creating wealth and preserving it for your familyNo_Offence_Alan said:
Tories reward inheritance more than work.HYUFD said:
There are limits, rewarding work is a Tory policy, nationalising industries is notkinabalu said:
What about nationalising the trains?HYUFD said:Good move from Javid to promise to raise the minimum wage, targeted at precisely the working class Leave voters the Tories need to win a Tory majority
Tomorrow?0 -
Margaret ThatcherJonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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But only of approved nuclear families. Even nephews and nieces don't count.No_Offence_Alan said:
Tories reward inheritance more than work.HYUFD said:
There are limits, rewarding work is a Tory policy, nationalising industries is notkinabalu said:
What about nationalising the trains?HYUFD said:Good move from Javid to promise to raise the minimum wage, targeted at precisely the working class Leave voters the Tories need to win a Tory majority
Tomorrow?0 -
Blair forced Brown to follow Tory spending plans for the first term continuing on the excellent economic work of the Conservatives.spudgfsh said:
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)
In fact, as I recall, around 2001 they could have almost abolished income tax with the budget surplus they had accrued following Conservatives plans.
ABOLISH INCOME TAX...let than sink in for a moment in the context of the boost to the economy we could have had.0 -
The only one of importance was the one that will bring about the ending of Unity on these islands.spudgfsh said:
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)Jonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
I have always hated Tony Blair.0 -
The budget surplus was because GB sold the gold reserves at $500 an ounce. just before it went to $1000 an ounceSunnyJim said:
Blair forced Brown to follow Tory spending plans for the first term continuing on the excellent economic work of the Conservatives.spudgfsh said:
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)
In fact, as I recall, around 2001 they could have almost abolished income tax with the budget surplus they had accrued following Conservatives plans.
ABOLISH INCOME TAX...let than sink in for a moment in the context of the boost to the economy we could have had.0 -
Apparently Labour is already committed to £10 an hour from 2020 - thereafter increased with inflation. Likely to imply £11 by 2024.JBriskinindyref2 said:
It is a shame. But I'm a policy focused kinda guy. And 10 fifty was just what the doctor ordered.justin124 said:
So you have decided to surrender your humanity?JBriskinindyref2 said:
Tories are third in my constituency, LDs lost, or came close to, losing their deposit.malcolmg said:
The only Tory in the villageJBriskinindyref2 said:https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1178680485574299653?s=20
I've voting Tory.
Hello everyone, my name is JBriskinindref2 - and I am now officially a PB Tory
I might have a flutter.0 -
Who brought us the glorious revolution...Anabobazina said:TGOHF2 said:Scott tweets a random Arsenal fan who seems to like all of his own tweets.
I’m convinced...
Is that William of Orange on your avatar?0 -
China has concentration camps for Muslims. That's not quite Conservative policy. Yet.Byronic said:
I sincerely wonder if democracy itself is doable in the internet age, amidst the whirling madness of social media. China has it right, in some ways. Tragically,Jonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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I have. A few years ago but recall finding it interesting. Note it does not pretend to be a comprehensive account of the Cold War. More an analysis of key aspects of it.viewcode said:I was in Waterstones on Saturday, buying "The Rise and Fall of the British Nation: A Twentieth-Century History" (David Edgerton, ISBN: 9780141975979) when I noticed "The Cold War" by John Lewis Gaddis. I had a look at his Waterstone's page[1] and he looks interesting. Has anybody read Gaddis and if so, what did you think?
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As Byron himself would have known, bad poets borrow, great poets steal.JohnO said:
Coincidences happen all the time: doesn’t mean a thing. Byronic was simply plagiarising an above average insight from Sean Thomas. I agree he should have acknowledged the reference but it’s hardly a capital offence.Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
Not to mention buy to let.No_Offence_Alan said:
Tories reward inheritance more than work.HYUFD said:
There are limits, rewarding work is a Tory policy, nationalising industries is notkinabalu said:
What about nationalising the trains?HYUFD said:Good move from Javid to promise to raise the minimum wage, targeted at precisely the working class Leave voters the Tories need to win a Tory majority
Tomorrow?0 -
But she was malign in a different way - thoroughly unchristian PM.HYUFD said:
Margaret ThatcherJonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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I'd rather have the Tories in control of national finances. Labour seem to struggle with a calculator nowadays (or under Brown, basic Keynsian economics)justin124 said:
Apparently Labour is already committed to £10 an hour from 2020 - thereafter increased with inflation. Likely to imply £11 by 2024.JBriskinindyref2 said:
It is a shame. But I'm a policy focused kinda guy. And 10 fifty was just what the doctor ordered.justin124 said:
So you have decided to surrender your humanity?JBriskinindyref2 said:
Tories are third in my constituency, LDs lost, or came close to, losing their deposit.malcolmg said:
The only Tory in the villageJBriskinindyref2 said:https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1178680485574299653?s=20
I've voting Tory.
Hello everyone, my name is JBriskinindref2 - and I am now officially a PB Tory
I might have a flutter.0 -
if it had been a change to a federal system (with the English regions getting devolved government) it would have worked better.JBriskinindyref2 said:
The only one of importance was the one that will bring about the ending of Unity on these islands.spudgfsh said:
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)Jonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
I have always hated Tony Blair.1 -
What are the council houses worth now?spudgfsh said:
The budget surplus was because GB sold the gold reserves at $500 an ounce. just before it went to $1000 an ounceSunnyJim said:
Blair forced Brown to follow Tory spending plans for the first term continuing on the excellent economic work of the Conservatives.spudgfsh said:
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)
In fact, as I recall, around 2001 they could have almost abolished income tax with the budget surplus they had accrued following Conservatives plans.
ABOLISH INCOME TAX...let than sink in for a moment in the context of the boost to the economy we could have had.0 -
You'd be roughly doubling everyone's take-home pay in that scenario. I suspect the inflationary implications would be non-trivial.SunnyJim said:
Blair forced Brown to follow Tory spending plans for the first term continuing on the excellent economic work of the Conservatives.spudgfsh said:
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)
In fact, as I recall, around 2001 they could have almost abolished income tax with the budget surplus they had accrued following Conservatives plans.
ABOLISH INCOME TAX...let than sink in for a moment in the context of the boost to the economy we could have had.0 -
More likely would be as a warning to others of how not to get things done...kinabalu said:
He has some great qualities but PM is not the right outlet for them. He would be better suited to a more ceremonial role. High viz but without too much - and preferably any - direct power. Something like a mascot.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
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One month to go to do or die Brexit day and no-one has the foggiest clue what is going to happen. Whatever your politics, that's not a great state of affairs.0
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I'm all for a Federal UK. As has been hinted at already on this thread, the break-up of these islands is now on the cards.spudgfsh said:
if it had been a change to a federal system (with the English regions getting devolved government) it would have worked better.JBriskinindyref2 said:
The only one of importance was the one that will bring about the ending of Unity on these islands.spudgfsh said:
Tony Blair in the 1990s, up to and including 10/09/2001. He knew what he could do and more importantly what he couldn't. he brought the country with him for some of the major changes he made. it can be seen by the fact that they haven't been repealed. (only GBs overly complex tax credits got that)Jonathan said:
I suppose that’s progress. We’re getting better at exposing the duds. I begin to wonder if the job is doable in the Internet age. It would be a massive shock to the country if we ended up with a really decent, effective, competent PM. Hard to remember what that feels like.spudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
I have always hated Tony Blair.0 -
Despite having found their own Magic Moneytree? The Tories left the country facing economic crisis in both October 1964 and March 1974.JBriskinindyref2 said:
I'd rather have the Tories in control of national finances. Labour seem to struggle with a calculator nowadays (or under Brown, basic Keynsian economics)justin124 said:
Apparently Labour is already committed to £10 an hour from 2020 - thereafter increased with inflation. Likely to imply £11 by 2024.JBriskinindyref2 said:
It is a shame. But I'm a policy focused kinda guy. And 10 fifty was just what the doctor ordered.justin124 said:
So you have decided to surrender your humanity?JBriskinindyref2 said:
Tories are third in my constituency, LDs lost, or came close to, losing their deposit.malcolmg said:
The only Tory in the villageJBriskinindyref2 said:https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1178680485574299653?s=20
I've voting Tory.
Hello everyone, my name is JBriskinindref2 - and I am now officially a PB Tory
I might have a flutter.0 -
If he was 'willing to fight the diehard Remainers in the Commons' why did he try to shut it down for 5 weeks?HYUFD said:
Boris hasn't been shown up, he is just willing to fight the diehard Remainers in the Commons and they can't stand being talked back to rather than having a PM they ignored and walked all over like Mayspudgfsh said:
You could name a few because of the disasters that they unleashed on the country but very few have been shown up so quickly.AlastairMeeks said:Has there ever been a Prime Minister less fit for the role than Boris Johnson?
Your man is a dud.0 -
I was born 79 - my first political memories were of Major and despising Tony Blair for his tory lite agenda (my dad was a labour man)justin124 said:
Despite having found their own Magic Moneytree? The Tories left the country facing economic crisis in both October 1964 and March 1974.JBriskinindyref2 said:
I'd rather have the Tories in control of national finances. Labour seem to struggle with a calculator nowadays (or under Brown, basic Keynsian economics)justin124 said:
Apparently Labour is already committed to £10 an hour from 2020 - thereafter increased with inflation. Likely to imply £11 by 2024.JBriskinindyref2 said:
It is a shame. But I'm a policy focused kinda guy. And 10 fifty was just what the doctor ordered.justin124 said:
So you have decided to surrender your humanity?JBriskinindyref2 said:
Tories are third in my constituency, LDs lost, or came close to, losing their deposit.malcolmg said:
The only Tory in the villageJBriskinindyref2 said:https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1178680485574299653?s=20
I've voting Tory.
Hello everyone, my name is JBriskinindref2 - and I am now officially a PB Tory
I might have a flutter.0 -
No wonder. As a crossdressing international male model transitioning to a woman with a small cottage in Greece, your life is truly inspirational. It's certainly incredible.Byronic said:
SeanT must be lurking on here, watching what I write! Wanker.JohnO said:
Coincidences happen all the time: doesn’t mean a thing. Byronic was simply plagiarising an above average insight from Sean Thomas. I agree he should have acknowledged the reference but it’s hardly a capital offence.Casino_Royale said:
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1178726306529325057?s=19Casino_Royale said:
I used to not be sure you were SeanT, but now..Byronic said:OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
I am going to start a new party.
THE PRETEND BREXIT NEVER HAPPENED PARTY
Our manifesto will, boldly and explicitly, make no mention of Brexit at all. Our policy is not to Brexit, or not Brexit, not to revoke, go to No Deal, press for a referendum, or endlessly extend. No, all those are for parallel universes where this odd thing tried to occur.
In our brand new and brilliant party, Brexit simply never happened, so does not need addressing, furthermore, any mentions of "Brexit", whatever that is, will be met with a notarised raised eyebrow and a EU-compatible puzzled glance. Those who persist in mentioning Brexit, whether "Remain" or "Leave" will be given calming valerian sweets.
Within a year of attaining power, all mentions of Brexit in print, online, on walls, and in government documents, will be entirely expunged like the hieroglyphs of Akhenaten, after the fall of the monotheistic pharaoh of Akhetaten.
Thankyou.0 -
Surely, though, a GoNAfaE would only exist to:
(1) ask for (and secure) an extension
(2) No Confidence itself
That could happen over the length of a Kenneth Clarke lunch.1 -
That filthy foreign migrant...TGOHF2 said:
Who brought us the glorious revolution...Anabobazina said:TGOHF2 said:Scott tweets a random Arsenal fan who seems to like all of his own tweets.
I’m convinced...
Is that William of Orange on your avatar?0
