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Fantastic from Japan.0
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Japan take the lead - tremendous.0
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He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?0 -
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)0 -
Boris hasn't exactly rolled out the red carpet in preparation for that mass return.SunnyJim said:
You say that but I suspect there will be a few crawling back once the GE is called.Tabman said:
You get the impression that there have been a few epiphanies in the last few weeks. On all sides. There's only so much swimming against the tide one can do.0 -
Mine was...Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)0 -
PoshoMarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)
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Oh God, it’s a Four Yorkshiremen morning.0
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Stupid from Ireland.0
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You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=190 -
He will get a few of them back. Nokes wants to stand as a Tory again, Burt and Benyon I think will return and one or two others. Clarke, Gauke, Grieve, Hammond, Rudd and Greening are gone for good though, as are Bebb and the ridiculous SoamesMexicanpete said:
Boris hasn't exactly rolled out the red carpet in preparation for that mass return.SunnyJim said:
You say that but I suspect there will be a few crawling back once the GE is called.Tabman said:
You get the impression that there have been a few epiphanies in the last few weeks. On all sides. There's only so much swimming against the tide one can do.0 -
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=190 -
Mr. Meeks, when I were a lad, there was only one Yorkshireman. And he had t'man coal mine by 'imself.0
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Other way round for me, Comprehensive before provincial Grammar . It was like leaving the white heat of technology for Tom Brown's schooldays.MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)
However fifty years on and that excellent vanguard Comprehensive is now a mediocre Acadamy. Underfunding, societal change or just lack of interest? Who knows?0 -
Have you ever seen a bigger wobblier jelly mass assembled anywherehoundtang said:
What about the chorus of the Red Flag, sung at every Labour Conference by the entire frontbench? Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer....DougSeal said:
In a single private conversation that happened to picked up by a nearby mic. It was both qualitatively and quantitatively different to the current constant open, loud and repeated messaging about “surrender” and “betrayal” with the implication of treason (with all that that has historically entailed) thrown in.Pulpstar said:Major is a bit of an odd one to go on about temperate language given he labelled some of his own party "bastards".
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I don't think he wants them back to a point. if he can get more brexit do or die tories in those seats it's to his advantage in the short term.dyedwoolie said:
He will get a few of them back. Nokes wants to stand as a Tory again, Burt and Benyon I think will return and one or two others. Clarke, Gauke, Grieve, Hammond, Rudd and Greening are gone for good though, as are Bebb and the ridiculous SoamesMexicanpete said:
Boris hasn't exactly rolled out the red carpet in preparation for that mass return.SunnyJim said:
You say that but I suspect there will be a few crawling back once the GE is called.Tabman said:
You get the impression that there have been a few epiphanies in the last few weeks. On all sides. There's only so much swimming against the tide one can do.0 -
Geoffrey Boycott?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Meeks, when I were a lad, there was only one Yorkshireman. And he had t'man coal mine by 'imself.
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Thanks for that, quite a bit in common with Orwell's rules for writing.AlastairMeeks said:This is completely off topic but a must-read for anyone who writes in any capacity at all:
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I think hes hoping Brexit is done before filling the seats, in that case theres some one nation people there that would fit his domestic agendaspudgfsh said:
I don't think he wants them back to a point. if he can get more brexit do or die tories in those seats it's to his advantage in the short term.dyedwoolie said:
He will get a few of them back. Nokes wants to stand as a Tory again, Burt and Benyon I think will return and one or two others. Clarke, Gauke, Grieve, Hammond, Rudd and Greening are gone for good though, as are Bebb and the ridiculous SoamesMexicanpete said:
Boris hasn't exactly rolled out the red carpet in preparation for that mass return.SunnyJim said:
You say that but I suspect there will be a few crawling back once the GE is called.Tabman said:
You get the impression that there have been a few epiphanies in the last few weeks. On all sides. There's only so much swimming against the tide one can do.0 -
Technical Grammar - is that the sort of school where they teach you to repair split infinitives?MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)
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And Rorydyedwoolie said:
He will get a few of them back. Nokes wants to stand as a Tory again, Burt and Benyon I think will return and one or two others. Clarke, Gauke, Grieve, Hammond, Rudd and Greening are gone for good though, as are Bebb and the ridiculous SoamesMexicanpete said:
Boris hasn't exactly rolled out the red carpet in preparation for that mass return.SunnyJim said:
You say that but I suspect there will be a few crawling back once the GE is called.Tabman said:
You get the impression that there have been a few epiphanies in the last few weeks. On all sides. There's only so much swimming against the tide one can do.0 -
Sir Geoffrey Boycott if you don't mind please.Mexicanpete said:
Geoffrey Boycott?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Meeks, when I were a lad, there was only one Yorkshireman. And he had t'man coal mine by 'imself.
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I've never known! As it was a mining area, I think it was for pit managers.....Benpointer said:
Technical Grammar - is that the sort of school where they teach you to repair split infinitives?MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)0 -
Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....0
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My ex sec mod comp has spawned reality TV stars in recent years. Oh the shame.Mexicanpete said:
Other way round for me, Comprehensive before provincial Grammar . It was like leaving the white heat of technology for Tom Brown's schooldays.MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)
However fifty years on and that excellent vanguard Comprehensive is now a mediocre Acadamy. Underfunding, societal change or just lack of interest? Who knows?
The odd one did escape to great things from my era (jouroj, TV producer and NASA), but it was the 80s when well to do lefty parents were still prepared to stand by their principles0 -
Should be some good commissions for head hunters placing this crew into some cushy NGO , 5th columns type non jobs for those that don’t have Goldman Sachs lined up.dyedwoolie said:
He will get a few of them back. Nokes wants to stand as a Tory again, Burt and Benyon I think will return and one or two others. Clarke, Gauke, Grieve, Hammond, Rudd and Greening are gone for good though, as are Bebb and the ridiculous SoamesMexicanpete said:
Boris hasn't exactly rolled out the red carpet in preparation for that mass return.SunnyJim said:
You say that but I suspect there will be a few crawling back once the GE is called.Tabman said:
You get the impression that there have been a few epiphanies in the last few weeks. On all sides. There's only so much swimming against the tide one can do.0 -
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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The tripartite system had technical schools as the middle layer. Very few were built as they were expensive. CTCs are a reincarnation of the conceptMarqueeMark said:
I've never known! As it was a mining area, I think it was for pit managers.....Benpointer said:
Technical Grammar - is that the sort of school where they teach you to repair split infinitives?MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)0 -
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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At my grammar school they had four classes in each year. These were streamed on abililty into : 4A, 4S, 4T, and 4X with a focus on Arts, Science, Technology and... well, just scraping through in the case of X.MarqueeMark said:
I've never known! As it was a mining area, I think it was for pit managers.....Benpointer said:
Technical Grammar - is that the sort of school where they teach you to repair split infinitives?MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)
Whoever thought that those with the highest ability were suited to the arts and those with lesser ability could do science and technology has a lot to answer for. I suspect it was (and still is?) symptomatic of a wider bias across the country that explains a lot about why our industry has been outperformed by most other developed countries.0 -
Best game so far. The discipline and ball handling from Japan was as good as you will ever see.0
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Amazing performance from all Japan's 16 men on the field.0
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The Grammar School I attended also ‘educated’ Peter Bone. Long after I’d left it though. Clearly standards fell.0
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Some of us still are.Tabman said:
My ex sec mod comp has spawned reality TV stars in recent years. Oh the shame.Mexicanpete said:
Other way round for me, Comprehensive before provincial Grammar . It was like leaving the white heat of technology for Tom Brown's schooldays.MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)
However fifty years on and that excellent vanguard Comprehensive is now a mediocre Acadamy. Underfunding, societal change or just lack of interest? Who knows?
The odd one did escape to great things from my era (jouroj, TV producer and NASA), but it was the 80s when well to do lefty parents were still prepared to stand by their principles0 -
The Irish lacked a backstop - well played Japan.0
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BAU thenTGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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Owen 'meateater' Paterson is the sort of red in tooth and claw speaker we need right now.Mexicanpete said:I do feel for the Conservatives, with the exception of Weatherill we have had a Labour, or Labourlite speaker since before Georgie Thomas.
I have seen on Betway that Boris Johnson is currently 100/1. Would this be instead of his current role or is it anticipated he would multi task? Mind you it could be worse, Owen Paterson is a mere 18/1 on Betway!0 -
Samoa first - probably need a bonus point.malcolmg said:
BAU thenTGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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Don't be silly we will win rest of our games easilyspudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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My school gave the world Lord Nelson, Lord Ashcroft and Tim Westwood amongst others
I mean Tim F ing Westwood. I could have had his locker!0 -
Japan might have already won the group by the time they play Scotland...0
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Scotland do now have to beat Samoa to have a chance (Russia being a given BP win)malcolmg said:
Don't be silly we will win rest of our games easilyspudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=19
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Not watched much rugby at all (awkward time for me), but impressive from Japan.0
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The Grammar School (in name only) I attended had Lord Byron as a former pupil. I'm not sure whether that makes me Byronic..OldKingCole said:The Grammar School I attended also ‘educated’ Peter Bone. Long after I’d left it though. Clearly standards fell.
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They probably are.rkrkrk said:I have my doubts that Cummings, Boris or the ERG care much about convention. I'd have thought they'd be fuming about Bercow and would be keen to get a proper Tory in.
What they would be overlooking - as they have overlooked from the start - is that they don't have the numbers.
Now, perhaps this is all (dis)virtue-signalling to their target electorate; that it doesn't matter if they lose in Westminster and that it even puts them on their preferred side of 'the people versus parliament'. But at some point you have to stop campaigning and actually start governing. And for that, you do really need parliament.0 -
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"You don't know how to bring the salmon back up a dead stream"Andy_JS said:
An adult salmon has been found in the River Don at Salmon Pastures confirming the species’ return to Sheffield city centre after an absence of 150 years.
The body of the 79cm (31 inches) salmon was reported to the Environment Agency by a member of the public on Wednesday 2 January. It appears to have died from natural causes.
Following the recent push to improve water quality and introduce more fish passes to facilitate the migration of our native fish, the re-colonisation of salmon in the Don is now becoming a reality.
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Exactlyisam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=191 -
Mine gave us Michael Adebolajodyedwoolie said:My school gave the world Lord Nelson, Lord Ashcroft and Tim Westwood amongst others
I mean Tim F ing Westwood. I could have had his locker!0 -
The cases will be packed by nowspudgfsh said:
Scotland do now have to beat Samoa to have a chance (Russia being a given BP win)malcolmg said:
Don't be silly we will win rest of our games easilyspudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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No, your comments are (mostly, anyway) much more rational!Theuniondivvie said:
The Grammar School (in name only) I attended had Lord Byron as a former pupil. I'm not sure whether that makes me Byronic..OldKingCole said:The Grammar School I attended also ‘educated’ Peter Bone. Long after I’d left it though. Clearly standards fell.
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Can I claim £5?Theuniondivvie said:
The Grammar School (in name only) I attended had Lord Byron as a former pupil. I'm not sure whether that makes me Byronic..OldKingCole said:The Grammar School I attended also ‘educated’ Peter Bone. Long after I’d left it though. Clearly standards fell.
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Malc will be pleased to know mine also gave us Christopher Layer, a jacobite conspirator executed for his part in the Atterbury Plot 1723isam said:
Mine gave us Michael Adebolajodyedwoolie said:My school gave the world Lord Nelson, Lord Ashcroft and Tim Westwood amongst others
I mean Tim F ing Westwood. I could have had his locker!0 -
Of course, the next Speaker might be in for a very short tenure if we have a GE in short order delivering a majority for the Conservatives.david_herdson said:
They probably are.rkrkrk said:I have my doubts that Cummings, Boris or the ERG care much about convention. I'd have thought they'd be fuming about Bercow and would be keen to get a proper Tory in.
What they would be overlooking - as they have overlooked from the start - is that they don't have the numbers.
Now, perhaps this is all (dis)virtue-signalling to their target electorate; that it doesn't matter if they lose in Westminster and that it even puts them on their preferred side of 'the people versus parliament'. But at some point you have to stop campaigning and actually start governing. And for that, you do really need parliament.0 -
I saw your post a few days back. Sounds a very positive experience at your kids school.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Some of us still are.Tabman said:
My ex sec mod comp has spawned reality TV stars in recent years. Oh the shame.Mexicanpete said:
Other way round for me, Comprehensive before provincial Grammar . It was like leaving the white heat of technology for Tom Brown's schooldays.MarqueeMark said:
Yep. Was one of the first Comps in the country.Tabman said:
Was it a former Sec Mod.?MarqueeMark said:
...and a proppa ComprehensiveRoger said:
Yes but you went to university...MarqueeMark said:
hanged....Roger said:
Just a joke (almost)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, I think my meaning's pretty clear in a thread about whether Hoyle might become the next Speaker.
(I was going to say people have been hung for saying that)
(Although I only went there because we'd moved house. Before that I was at a Technical Grammar.)
However fifty years on and that excellent vanguard Comprehensive is now a mediocre Acadamy. Underfunding, societal change or just lack of interest? Who knows?
The odd one did escape to great things from my era (jouroj, TV producer and NASA), but it was the 80s when well to do lefty parents were still prepared to stand by their principles
I have long thought that there is more to education than academic stuff, though of course that matters. Children need to have friends and contacts across the social spectrum if they are going to function well in adult life, rather than continue in some posh bubble, or a socially excluded one.
Ditto it's important that friends are in the neighbourhood, rather than scattered far and wide and only seen at school. This is for the benefit both of the well off and the less well off. Lessons in humility and aspiration need that social mix.0 -
Since the shool in question is in Aberdeen, the chances of getting £5 out of me are slimBeibheirli_C said:
Can I claim £5?Theuniondivvie said:
The Grammar School (in name only) I attended had Lord Byron as a former pupil. I'm not sure whether that makes me Byronic..OldKingCole said:The Grammar School I attended also ‘educated’ Peter Bone. Long after I’d left it though. Clearly standards fell.
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Thanks (I think)!OldKingCole said:
No, your comments are (mostly, anyway) much more rational!Theuniondivvie said:
The Grammar School (in name only) I attended had Lord Byron as a former pupil. I'm not sure whether that makes me Byronic..OldKingCole said:The Grammar School I attended also ‘educated’ Peter Bone. Long after I’d left it though. Clearly standards fell.
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Yes, I did wonder about that but how does anyone else gets to 320+?felix said:All reason and sense suggests Hoyle for next Speaker. Therefore he probably won't be. [snip],
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That's easy - you just replace Scotland with Georgia in the Six Nations, if they finish above 4th; otherwise, just revert to a 5 Nations.spudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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Plenty of protests from kids in the developing world too. Are you accusing Greta of White Privilege?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously .Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=19
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177699573319516162?s=19
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Sigh. I bet you’re one of the saddo types who breathlessly waited for massive jams to appear on the edge of the congestion charge zone the morning it was switched on, only to wander away scratching your addled head.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
On the original substantive point, the way the right plays the hypocrisy card whenever anyone takes any action against climate change merely demonstrates the paucity of their case.0 -
I did wonder if there should be a promotion/relegation playoff for the final spot of the 6-nationsdavid_herdson said:
That's easy - you just replace Scotland with Georgia in the Six Nations, if they finish above 4th; otherwise, just revert to a 5 Nations.spudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
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There are enough decent Tory MPs left to prevent Cummings and co from replacing a sitting - and good - Speaker with a lackey.MarqueeMark said:
Of course, the next Speaker might be in for a very short tenure if we have a GE in short order delivering a majority for the Conservatives.david_herdson said:
They probably are.rkrkrk said:I have my doubts that Cummings, Boris or the ERG care much about convention. I'd have thought they'd be fuming about Bercow and would be keen to get a proper Tory in.
What they would be overlooking - as they have overlooked from the start - is that they don't have the numbers.
Now, perhaps this is all (dis)virtue-signalling to their target electorate; that it doesn't matter if they lose in Westminster and that it even puts them on their preferred side of 'the people versus parliament'. But at some point you have to stop campaigning and actually start governing. And for that, you do really need parliament.1 -
Why do people attack Greta?1
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Indeed Woolie, look at my new avatardyedwoolie said:
Malc will be pleased to know mine also gave us Christopher Layer, a jacobite conspirator executed for his part in the Atterbury Plot 1723isam said:
Mine gave us Michael Adebolajodyedwoolie said:My school gave the world Lord Nelson, Lord Ashcroft and Tim Westwood amongst others
I mean Tim F ing Westwood. I could have had his locker!0 -
Mr. Jonathan, displeased at being lectured to by a stroppy teenager?1
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What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=191 -
There shouldn't be anything to wonder about - it should happen.spudgfsh said:
I did wonder if there should be a promotion/relegation playoff for the final spot of the 6-nationsdavid_herdson said:
That's easy - you just replace Scotland with Georgia in the Six Nations, if they finish above 4th; otherwise, just revert to a 5 Nations.spudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
I don't think anyone would doubt that Italy have not progressed as they were expected to.0 -
There he is! He was in the year above memalcolmg said:
Indeed Woolie, look at my new avatardyedwoolie said:
Malc will be pleased to know mine also gave us Christopher Layer, a jacobite conspirator executed for his part in the Atterbury Plot 1723isam said:
Mine gave us Michael Adebolajodyedwoolie said:My school gave the world Lord Nelson, Lord Ashcroft and Tim Westwood amongst others
I mean Tim F ing Westwood. I could have had his locker! 0 -
Philip Larkin & Debee Ashby0
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The problem for Hoyle could be if Tories vote for a Tory in the early rounds and Labour MPs vote for a more partisan candidate (such as Harman) then he could be eliminated before the final round.david_herdson said:
Yes, I did wonder about that but how does anyone else gets to 320+?felix said:All reason and sense suggests Hoyle for next Speaker. Therefore he probably won't be. [snip],
This might happen if MPs assume other MPs will vote for Hoyle - the obvious candidate - so that they can safely send a signal weigh a different vote.1 -
spudgfsh said:
I did wonder if there should be a promotion/relegation playoff for the final spot of the 6-nationsdavid_herdson said:
That's easy - you just replace Scotland with Georgia in the Six Nations, if they finish above 4th; otherwise, just revert to a 5 Nations.spudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
Of course there should be. The closed shop system is a sporting disgrace and an affront to competition. It only persists because the blazers prefer a trip to Rome every spring rather than roughing it in Tbilisi.0 -
Ken Clarke, Robin Leigh Pemberton, Geoff "the complete" Hoon Ed Balls, Ed Davey.isam said:
Mine gave us Michael Adebolajodyedwoolie said:My school gave the world Lord Nelson, Lord Ashcroft and Tim Westwood amongst others
I mean Tim F ing Westwood. I could have had his locker!
Oh and D H Lawrence. And three more current MP-types I have hardly heard of - Piers Marchant, James Morris MP (did his mum like AA Milne?), Jonathon Bullock MEP.
Davey is shaping up well as one of the more rational members of the Lib Dems.
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regardless of whether they change entry to the 6 nations, they should definately play some (more) matches against the next tier nationsAnabobazina said:spudgfsh said:
I did wonder if there should be a promotion/relegation playoff for the final spot of the 6-nationsdavid_herdson said:
That's easy - you just replace Scotland with Georgia in the Six Nations, if they finish above 4th; otherwise, just revert to a 5 Nations.spudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
Of course there should be. The closed shop system is a sporting disgrace and an affront to competition. It only persists because the blazers prefer a trip to Rome every spring rather than roughing in in Tbilisi.0 -
She is a whining middle class bore. Bet she creates more CO2 than many small countries flying about spouting about death and destruction, from a young(ish) working class NON snowflakeAnabobazina said:
What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=192 -
Nationalist Populists object for many reasons, but the psychological threat is of a popular worldwide movement that transcends the barriers that National Populists want to put between people.Jonathan said:Why do people attack Greta?
International action requires international institutions, and they feel threatened by these.1 -
Its fatigue of whiny brats predicting imminent disaster and demanding everyone else does what we want.Anabobazina said:
What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=19
We all have it to varying degrees.2 -
Piers Merchant was one of Majors naughty sex scandal MPs. He was an early figure in UKIP after thatMattW said:
Ken Clarke, Robin Leigh Pemberton, Geoff "the complete" Hoon Ed Balls, Ed Davey.isam said:
Mine gave us Michael Adebolajodyedwoolie said:My school gave the world Lord Nelson, Lord Ashcroft and Tim Westwood amongst others
I mean Tim F ing Westwood. I could have had his locker!
Oh and D H Lawrence. And three more current MP-types I have hardly heard of - Piers Marchant, James Morris MP (did his mum like AA Milne?), Jonathon Bullock MEP.
Davey is shaping up well as one of the more rational members of the Lib Dems.0 -
I feel sorry for her - her parents appear to be the Swedish equivalent of Gina Miller.malcolmg said:
She is a whining middle class bore. Bet she creates more CO2 than many small countries flying about spouting about death and destruction, from a young(ish) working class NON snowflakeAnabobazina said:
What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
rth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=192 -
The ad hom attacks she gets say a great deal about her opponents prejudices and the weakness of arguments against climate science.Foxy said:
Nationalist Populists object for many reasons, but the psychological threat is of a popular worldwide movement that transcends the barriers that National Populists want to put between people.Jonathan said:Why do people attack Greta?
International action requires international institutions, and they feel threatened by these.0 -
Not good enough. Should be one up, one down every year. Georgia have won the European Championship several years running. How are they supposed to develop when they aren’t able to advance? Meanwhile Italy are annual wooden spoon fodder in the 6N.spudgfsh said:
regardless of whether they change entry to the 6 nations, they should definately play some (more) matches against the next tier nationsAnabobazina said:spudgfsh said:
I did wonder if there should be a promotion/relegation playoff for the final spot of the 6-nationsdavid_herdson said:
That's easy - you just replace Scotland with Georgia in the Six Nations, if they finish above 4th; otherwise, just revert to a 5 Nations.spudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
Of course there should be. The closed shop system is a sporting disgrace and an affront to competition. It only persists because the blazers prefer a trip to Rome every spring rather than roughing in in Tbilisi.0 -
How many years do you think we have left to tackle the issue of global warming?another_richard said:
Its fatigue of whiny brats predicting imminent disaster and demanding everyone else does what we want.Anabobazina said:
What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=19
We all have it to varying degrees.0 -
They have a different opinion , why is it always them attacking. Why does Greta attack people more like. She will most likely be pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere than a small city whilst hypocritically talking mince about her childhood being ruined. Why does she not piss off to China, Russia and such like with her whining. As per usual , like Gore and others she is a hypocrite. Why not just do it all by video rather than flying all over the world complaining about flying. Just another over privileged twunk that thinks they can tell people what to do whilst doing the opposite themselves.Jonathan said:Why do people attack Greta?
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Yes, we know they can't count (or don't care about losing), so they probably will try to get a Brexity speaker.david_herdson said:
They probably are.rkrkrk said:I have my doubts that Cummings, Boris or the ERG care much about convention. I'd have thought they'd be fuming about Bercow and would be keen to get a proper Tory in.
What they would be overlooking - as they have overlooked from the start - is that they don't have the numbers.
Now, perhaps this is all (dis)virtue-signalling to their target electorate; that it doesn't matter if they lose in Westminster and that it even puts them on their preferred side of 'the people versus parliament'. But at some point you have to stop campaigning and actually start governing. And for that, you do really need parliament.
As an aside, disvirtue signalling is a genius expression.0 -
Those lads approaching or in their climacteric are obviously bored with Harley Davidsons and Viagra.Jonathan said:Why do people attack Greta?
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Greta went by sea.malcolmg said:
They have a different opinion , why is it always them attacking. Why does Greta attack people more like. She will most likely be pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere than a small city whilst hypocritically talking mince about her childhood being ruined. Why does she not piss off to China, Russia and such like with her whining. As per usual , like Gore and others she is a hypocrite. Why not just do it all by video rather than flying all over the world complaining about flying. Just another over privileged twunk that thinks they can tell people what to do whilst doing the opposite themselves.Jonathan said:Why do people attack Greta?
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Lets have Dr Sarah, the MP for Independent Coffee Shops, and we can all emote together. Just like Extinction Rebellion.Foxy said:
Possibly one of the independent Tories...Beibheirli_C said:The tories are a minority so they may not get to impose anyone. So the next question is whether the Corbyn Cult see a reason to elect Ms Harman.Besides they may need her for the GNU.
I doubt very much that the Cult will vote for a Tory.
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And her support crew flew iirc .. but they kept fairly quiet about that.Foxy said:
Greta went by sea.malcolmg said:
They have a different opinion , why is it always them attacking. Why does Greta attack people more like. She will most likely be pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere than a small city whilst hypocritically talking mince about her childhood being ruined. Why does she not piss off to China, Russia and such like with her whining. As per usual , like Gore and others she is a hypocrite. Why not just do it all by video rather than flying all over the world complaining about flying. Just another over privileged twunk that thinks they can tell people what to do whilst doing the opposite themselves.Jonathan said:Why do people attack Greta?
I think Russia and China etc get of lightly because she spends most of her time attacking the people ... Western countries ... who are doing most and leading the charge.
There's also far too much hate in her rhetoric imo.
And some well-justified questions about who it is manipulating her.
The video thing does not matter because they do not give a hoot about their own hypocrisy.2 -
Similar at mine. The top set had compulsory Latin, the bottom set had compulsory woodwork (boys) or cookery (girls). More than that, the top set were not allowed to do woodwork or cookery and the bottom set were not allowed to do Latin.Benpointer said:At my grammar school they had four classes in each year. These were streamed on abililty into : 4A, 4S, 4T, and 4X with a focus on Arts, Science, Technology and... well, just scraping through in the case of X.
Whoever thought that those with the highest ability were suited to the arts and those with lesser ability could do science and technology has a lot to answer for. I suspect it was (and still is?) symptomatic of a wider bias across the country that explains a lot about why our industry has been outperformed by most other developed countries.
A situation was thus engendered whereby it was impossible for a boy to be able to both translate Ovid and make a magazine stand, or for a girl to be able to not only know her datives from her genitives but also turn out a decent omelette.
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That's not quite true.another_richard said:
Its fatigue of whiny brats predicting imminent disaster and demanding everyone else does what we want.Anabobazina said:
What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Streeter said:
Obligatory? No.MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.
Idiot.
Likely? Yes.
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
https://twitter.com/abc730/status/1177177264779194368?s=19
We all have it to varying degrees.
The young have an abundance of vision without the experience to know what is possible.
The older have the experience of what is possible but have mostly lost the vision to make effective change.
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Anabobazina said:isam said:Luckyguy1983 said:Foxy said:
What is it about being white and /or middle-aged that you cannot cope with?Luckyguy1983 said:
What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?Noo said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itMarqueeMark said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Streeter said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.MarqueeMark said:
He is not obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone try and claim that a mass gathering of people results in a net reduction in carbon emissions. It is a patently absurd position. The protesters obviously felt it was worth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Streeter said:FPT
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
Because closed roads never impact on drivers, causing them to greatly increase their carbon emissions as they grind along at two miles an hour on the clogged alternative routes.Foxy said:Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
Look up “fixed travel time budget”.
If the car owners in the crowd spent hours on their feet not driving anywhere there would have been a massive reduction in VMT, regardless how they travelled to and from the protest.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
Do you even drive? Does DVLC keep the terminally stupid off the roads?
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Exactly and they always pick the easy targets with the wishy washy bleeding heart liberals, you never ever see them say anything about the real bad guys or trying to persuade them to change.TGOHF2 said:
I feel sorry for her - her parents appear to be the Swedish equivalent of Gina Miller.malcolmg said:
She is a whining middle class bore. Bet she creates more CO2 than many small countries flying about spouting about death and destruction, from a young(ish) working class NON snowflakeAnabobazina said:
What is it about Greta that upsets the middle aged white snowflakes?isam said:
This is how people in my football team are seeing itLuckyguy1983 said:
Didn't realise I was enraged.Foxy said:
You may need to contact the Greta helpline, though It seems very busy.Luckyguy1983 said:
rth it, as does Al Gore and his private jet, and they may be right, but that doesn't give them immunity from sarcasm.Noo said:
You're looking really very silly now. You made a quip that was a bit lame, but doubling down when you're obviously wrong is dumb.MarqueeMark said:
roads?Streeter said:MarqueeMark said:
Because, yes, it is obligtory for them to be driving in their cars when not out protesting about climate change.Streeter said:FPT
...then they wouldn’t be driving anywhere else.MarqueeMark said:
I'm assuming all those people walked or cycled to the event. Because if they drove there.....Foxy said:
She did get a good turnout though.Pulpstar said:
Canada's carbon footprint on a per person basis is fucking horrific tbh, She should have sued them before France.HYUFD said:Greta Thunberg meets Justin Trudeau
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513303/Greta-Thunberg-hits-people-want-silence-us.html
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1177670240563601410?s=19
https://twitter.com/PaulBadertscher/status/1177622158715080704?s=19
Idiot.
Idiot.
Idiot^2.
Edit. Not to count the reduction in traffic caused by other people not driving because roads were closed for the protest.
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Should have been done long time agoAnabobazina said:
Not good enough. Should be one up, one down every year. Georgia have won the European Championship several years running. How are they supposed to develop when they aren’t able to advance? Meanwhile Italy are annual wooden spoon fodder in the 6N.spudgfsh said:
regardless of whether they change entry to the 6 nations, they should definately play some (more) matches against the next tier nationsAnabobazina said:spudgfsh said:
I did wonder if there should be a promotion/relegation playoff for the final spot of the 6-nationsdavid_herdson said:
That's easy - you just replace Scotland with Georgia in the Six Nations, if they finish above 4th; otherwise, just revert to a 5 Nations.spudgfsh said:
The problem with Scotland finishing 4th is that they'd not automatically qualify for the next world cup which the qualification setup assumes will happen. (there is no method for the 6 nations to enter the qualifying)TGOHF2 said:
Theoretically this is a good result for Scotland as it opens up the possibility of avoiding NZ in the next round. But more likely it consigns them to 3rd or 4th.spudgfsh said:
I can see a scenario in this group where scotland, if they lose to Japan and Samoa, fail to qualify automatically for the next world cup.MarqueeMark said:Ireland need a converted try to tie. 7 minutes to do it.....
Of course there should be. The closed shop system is a sporting disgrace and an affront to competition. It only persists because the blazers prefer a trip to Rome every spring rather than roughing in in Tbilisi.0
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