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Ah right. I thought I read someone saying you and Mrs G were cruising but I thought it'd be odd if you were on holiday and posting on here.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not gone yet Gin - leave week on saturdayGIN1138 said:
Are you still on holiday with Mrs G?Big_G_NorthWales said:For goodness sake Boris - resign
Hope you both have a nice time.
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Plainly yes, but my question still stands. Can anyone solve it?isam said:
Could Boris resign and be the next PM?algarkirk said:
True, but what that leaves unaddressed is the situation - not now impossible - in which the PM resigns - perhaps the only way of fulfilling his promise of not asking for an extension - but does not name a successor to HM the Queen because there isn't one in his opinion that could command a majority - just as he can't.Philip_Thompson said:
There's no such thing as "first try" as Brown showed in 2010. Either someone else can command Parliament, in which case they become PM, or nobody can in which case we need an election. Otherwise until then the existing PM remains in situ until there is either a clear alternative or an election that generates a clear alternative [and if the election is inconclusive the PM remains until a conclusion is reached].logical_song said:
Who knows.Slackbladder said:
Thats what i thought.Scott_P said:
That is exactly the planSlackbladder said:Am i being stupid, but whats stopping labour saying no again? Given the bill that basically says Boris MUST call an exention then he'd be forced to resign by his own words.
But what happens then?? Who the f-knows. corbyn gets to be PM I guess?
Maybe Corbyn gets first try and fails (Swinson against). Then maybe Ken Clarke?
(While parliament perhaps declines to VONC a non existent PM and declines to agree to an election).
Any thoughts?
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Think he has a chance. Said last night this reminds me of the Blaenau Gwent situation under New Labour.Big_G_NorthWales said:
GoodGallowgate said:Rory’s local rag endorses him regardless.
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Mr. Anabobazina, ha, I must confess the second one was not intentional.
Futtocks is a marvellous word, though.0 -
Can I correct your statement please? He's ripped the heart out of the Conservative Party in pursuit of a pure personal ambition. Thanks.Casino_Royale said:
How’s that going for him then?Pulpstar said:
It's smoked them out I reckon. Johnson didn't get Cummings in to stroke MPs egos, he got him in to win.RobD said:
I find it hard to believe the rebels would have voted for against the Benn bill had it not been for prorogation.TheScreamingEagles said:
He’s ripped the heart out of the Conservative Party in pursuit of a pure ideology.
Long-standing members won’t have it, and we haven’t seen the end of it.
I’m furious.
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Elphicke does not need to be bought off. He should not be counted as an Independent for these votes, as he is a careerist Conservative who will do whatever BJohnson asks. Sadly for him he is due in court tomorrow.dyedwoolie said:The whip removal was I think the big error, without that hed almost certainly have got a one line bill for a GE through, mann is already calling for Corbyn to 'go early' and Hoey and a couple others (elphicke, hermon etc) could have been bought off
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If/when he gets the election the whip withdrawal will be important in getting BXP voters to vote Con.dyedwoolie said:The whip removal was I think the big error, without that hed almost certainly have got a one line bill for a GE through, mann is already calling for Corbyn to 'go early' and Hoey and a couple others (elphicke, hermon etc) could have been bought off
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It's funny how talking about Bercow's wife was deemed to be unacceptable, but talking about Boris's brother is just fine.1
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Thanks GinGIN1138 said:
Ah right. I thought I read someone saying you and Mrs G were cruising but I thought it'd be odd if you were on holiday and posting on here.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not gone yet Gin - leave week on saturdayGIN1138 said:
Are you still on holiday with Mrs G?Big_G_NorthWales said:For goodness sake Boris - resign
Hope you both have a nice time.1 -
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Yet Jezza is still chicken...0
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Wow, that song came into my head too as I saw the comment above!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:0 -
Graham Brady better check his mailbox.
And Gove should assemble the men in grey suits...1 -
If I was Boris I would "write two letters" and send BOTH to the European Council.algarkirk said:
True, but what that leaves unaddressed is the situation - not now impossible - in which the PM resigns - perhaps the only way of fulfilling his promise of not asking for an extension - but does not name a successor to HM the Queen because there isn't one in his opinion that could command a majority - just as he can't.Philip_Thompson said:
There's no such thing as "first try" as Brown showed in 2010. Either someone else can command Parliament, in which case they become PM, or nobody can in which case we need an election. Otherwise until then the existing PM remains in situ until there is either a clear alternative or an election that generates a clear alternative [and if the election is inconclusive the PM remains until a conclusion is reached].logical_song said:
Who knows.Slackbladder said:
Thats what i thought.Scott_P said:
That is exactly the planSlackbladder said:Am i being stupid, but whats stopping labour saying no again? Given the bill that basically says Boris MUST call an exention then he'd be forced to resign by his own words.
But what happens then?? Who the f-knows. corbyn gets to be PM I guess?
Maybe Corbyn gets first try and fails (Swinson against). Then maybe Ken Clarke?
(While parliament perhaps declines to VONC a non existent PM and declines to agree to an election).
Any thoughts?
In one letter I would copy and paste the letter Parliament has drafted in the bill.
In the other letter I would write that Parliament has declined to pass any deal, there is no intention to ratify any deal by Parliament and that this is just messing around so he does not want an extension but is legally obliged to ask . . . but if they want to reject the request he would understand and respect that.
EU would extend no doubt but it would be clear who the request has come from.0 -
Looks a bit weird standing in front of group of police officers. The sort of thing politicians like to do in the United States, not here so much.0
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https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1169650387416207360
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It’s very possible.GIN1138 said:
Really can't see a December election.Casino_Royale said:
I got on Dec at 14.0 this morning.MikeL said:Latest:
Oct - 2.52 / 2.58
Nov - 3.05 / 3.7
Dec - 4.0 / 5.9
But my main play is laying this year.
Weather's terrible. Is dark by 4pm. Most people are more concerned about Christmas and New Year.
December, January and February are all out, IMO.
November is very tricky too really.
I think it either happens in October or it's off until April/May and what the hell happens in the six months between October and April is anyone's guess.0 -
Is Boris genuinely ill?
This rally with five-oh looks ludicrous. Dark, sinister and risible.0 -
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What an earth possessed them to do that? (Boris' advisors, not the police)Scott_P said:0 -
As I said earlier, If there's no GE in October Boris will resign as PM and advise HMQ to invite Corbyn to form a government. Then he can fight the next GE as LOTO.Scott_P said:0 -
He does not go till 18th SeptemberGIN1138 said:
Are you still on holiday with Mrs G?Big_G_NorthWales said:For goodness sake Boris - resign
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They do speak English and read the UK media you know.Philip_Thompson said:
If I was Boris I would "write two letters" and send BOTH to the European Council.algarkirk said:
True, but what that leaves unaddressed is the situation - not now impossible - in which the PM resigns - perhaps the only way of fulfilling his promise of not asking for an extension - but does not name a successor to HM the Queen because there isn't one in his opinion that could command a majority - just as he can't.Philip_Thompson said:
There's no such thing as "first try" as Brown showed in 2010. Either someone else can command Parliament, in which case they become PM, or nobody can in which case we need an election. Otherwise until then the existing PM remains in situ until there is either a clear alternative or an election that generates a clear alternative [and if the election is inconclusive the PM remains until a conclusion is reached].logical_song said:
Who knows.Slackbladder said:
Thats what i thought.Scott_P said:
That is exactly the planSlackbladder said:Am i being stupid, but whats stopping labour saying no again? Given the bill that basically says Boris MUST call an exention then he'd be forced to resign by his own words.
But what happens then?? Who the f-knows. corbyn gets to be PM I guess?
Maybe Corbyn gets first try and fails (Swinson against). Then maybe Ken Clarke?
(While parliament perhaps declines to VONC a non existent PM and declines to agree to an election).
Any thoughts?
In one letter I would copy and paste the letter Parliament has drafted in the bill.
In the other letter I would write that Parliament has declined to pass any deal, there is no intention to ratify any deal by Parliament and that this is just messing around so he does not want an extension but is legally obliged to ask . . . but if they want to reject the request he would understand and respect that.
EU would extend no doubt but it would be clear who the request has come from.0 -
He's quite right too, it only looks shocking after the total lack of discipline that May permitted.Scott_P said:https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1169650387416207360
He's having a nervous breakdown on live TV
Major did the EXACT SAME THING which Boris's critics seem to conveniently forget.0 -
This is a very worrying thing for a PM to say.Scott_P said:
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If the Opposition continues to block an election then it's what the logic of his position dictates. He can then fight an eventual election as Leader of the Opposition and blame Corbyn (assuming that he's then PM, although AFAIK there's no bar on Johnson recommending the Queen call for somebody else) for the extension.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:PM seems to be suggesting he will resign if we're not heading out on the 31/10.
The other two options - asking for the extension himself, or breaking the law - are both electoral suicide, and the latter would presumably be subject to defeat in both the UK and EU courts in any event.0 -
The optics of those poor police officers behind him are terrible on so many levels.0
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I'm embarrassed that this buffoon is Prime Minister of our nation. I pity the Queen.0
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This is bizarre. A WPC has taken a turn behind Boris by all accounts, live on TV. Who is writing this stuff?0
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So?Streeter said:
They do speak English and read the UK media you know.Philip_Thompson said:
If I was Boris I would "write two letters" and send BOTH to the European Council.algarkirk said:
True, but what that leaves unaddressed is the situation - not now impossible - in which the PM resigns - perhaps the only way of fulfilling his promise of not asking for an extension - but does not name a successor to HM the Queen because there isn't one in his opinion that could command a majority - just as he can't.Philip_Thompson said:
There's no such thing as "first try" as Brown showed in 2010. Either someone else can command Parliament, in which case they become PM, or nobody can in which case we need an election. Otherwise until then the existing PM remains in situ until there is either a clear alternative or an election that generates a clear alternative [and if the election is inconclusive the PM remains until a conclusion is reached].logical_song said:
Who knows.Slackbladder said:
Thats what i thought.Scott_P said:
That is exactly the planSlackbladder said:Am i being stupid, but whats stopping labour saying no again? Given the bill that basically says Boris MUST call an exention then he'd be forced to resign by his own words.
But what happens then?? Who the f-knows. corbyn gets to be PM I guess?
Maybe Corbyn gets first try and fails (Swinson against). Then maybe Ken Clarke?
(While parliament perhaps declines to VONC a non existent PM and declines to agree to an election).
Any thoughts?
In one letter I would copy and paste the letter Parliament has drafted in the bill.
In the other letter I would write that Parliament has declined to pass any deal, there is no intention to ratify any deal by Parliament and that this is just messing around so he does not want an extension but is legally obliged to ask . . . but if they want to reject the request he would understand and respect that.
EU would extend no doubt but it would be clear who the request has come from.0 -
Ruddgate:
Will Amber be part of a traffic light coalition?
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Doesn't help him if there's no early election.GIN1138 said:
If/when he gets the election the whip withdrawal will be important in getting BXP voters to vote Con.dyedwoolie said:The whip removal was I think the big error, without that hed almost certainly have got a one line bill for a GE through, mann is already calling for Corbyn to 'go early' and Hoey and a couple others (elphicke, hermon etc) could have been bought off
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Nope, as we face the final showdown battle in the war with the diehard Remainers Boris has the public increasingly on his side as we prepare for the last battle and with the Tories ahead in every poll, any Tory MP who refuses to back Brexit Deal or No Deal is rightly now going to be thrown out of the party and unable to stand as a Tory candidate againScott_P said:Graham Brady better check his mailbox.
And Gove should assemble the men in grey suits...0 -
Smith out.0
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One of the lady officers has just had to sit down, apparently unwell/sickened.
It really is very weird stuff.0 -
Bad idea to have all those police officers standing behind Boris like that. Looked awful.0
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Good grief what a car crash .
Bozo the apparent great media performer looks like he’ll be wetting himself anytime soon.0 -
It's a little bt 1984/V for Vendetta isn'tit ...DougSeal said:The optics of those poor police officers behind him are terrible on so many levels.
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Less than a week ago all the Conservatives here were saying that BJ would rather be taken away in a straightjacket than hand the keys of No 10 to Jeremy Corbyn.steve_garner said:
As I said earlier, If there's no GE in October Boris will resign as PM and advise HMQ to invite Corbyn to form a government. Then he can fight the next GE as LOTO.Scott_P said:0 -
What seat do they represent? Are they going to the lib dems? ;0Philip_Thompson said:Smith out.
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England Prevails !!!Slackbladder said:It's a little bt 1984/V for Vendetta isn'tit ...
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Swept off her feet by his sweet talking.Anabobazina said:DougSeal
One of the lady officers has just had to sit down, apparently unwell/sickened.
It really is very weird stuff.0 -
You have already gone from the Tory Party, your choice but the party itself is now fully behind Brexit Deal or No Deal and with Boris in the war with the diehard Remainers and CorbynBig_G_NorthWales said:
He is an utter disaster and has to goHYUFD said:Of the Brexit outcomes British voters think are still realistically possible, a plurality of 21% now prefer No Deal YouGov finds today.
Tied second are leaving the EU on a renegotiated Deal as Boris wants and Remaining in the EU after all on 19% each.
12% back a soft Brexit staying in the single market and customs union, 10% back EUref2 and just 5% back the date of Brexit being delayed past 31st October and 2% back May's existing Brexit Deal.
Leave voters split 41% for No Deal, 31% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 9% for soft Brexit. Remain voters split 38% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit.
Tory voters split 42% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal, 35% for No Deal and 8% for soft Brexit, Labour voters split 35% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 15% for soft Brexit, LD voters split 42% for Remain, 16% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit and Brexit Party voters split 59% for No Deal, 30% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 5% for soft Brexit.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/09/05/what-do-public-think-can-still-realistically-happe0 -
You have lost it as has BorisHYUFD said:
Nope, as we face the final showdown battle in the war with the diehard Remainers Boris has the public increasingly on his side as we prepare for the last battle and with the Tories ahead in every poll, any Tory MP who refuses to back Brexit Deal or No Deal is rightly now going to be thrown out of the party and unable to stand as a Tory candidate againScott_P said:Graham Brady better check his mailbox.
And Gove should assemble the men in grey suits...
Both of you are heading for defeat0 -
Greens are up for it!SandyRentool said:Ruddgate:
Will Amber be part of a traffic light coalition?
(My coat is right next to me)0 -
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Boris definitely will not be asking for an extension. Its resign and put Corbyn into bat, run as the insurgent alongside Farage seems to be the strategy.
Or fire Cummings!0 -
I thought May was the one terrible with the media?0
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"Now fully behind Brexit Deal or No Deal and with Boris".HYUFD said:
You have already gone from the Tory Party, your choice but the party itself is now fully behind Brexit Deal or No Deal and with Boris in the war with the diehard Remainers and CorbynBig_G_NorthWales said:
He is an utter disaster and has to goHYUFD said:Of the Brexit outcomes British voters think are still realistically possible, a plurality of 21% now prefer No Deal YouGov finds today.
Tied second are leaving the EU on a renegotiated Deal as Boris wants and Remaining in the EU after all on 19% each.
12% back a soft Brexit staying in the single market and customs union, 10% back EUref2 and just 5% back the date of Brexit being delayed past 31st October and 2% back May's existing Brexit Deal.
Leave voters split 41% for No Deal, 31% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 9% for soft Brexit. Remain voters split 38% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit.
Tory voters split 42% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal, 35% for No Deal and 8% for soft Brexit, Labour voters split 35% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 15% for soft Brexit, LD voters split 42% for Remain, 16% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit and Brexit Party voters split 59% for No Deal, 30% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 5% for soft Brexit.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/09/05/what-do-public-think-can-still-realistically-happe
Excellent. Are you guaranteeing no more resignations, defections or expulsions then?0 -
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What a load of arse.HYUFD said:
If you're making a big political speech about Europe, drafting in a backdrop of police cadets is not a good look. Makes him look quite the opposite of tough.
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British proposals to EU reported by BBC.0
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"final showdown", "last battle", "war". Are we expectng the Rapture as well? Are you okay?HYUFD said:
Nope, as we face the final showdown battle in the war with the diehard Remainers Boris has the public increasingly on his side as we prepare for the last battle and with the Tories ahead in every poll, any Tory MP who refuses to back Brexit Deal or No Deal is rightly now going to be thrown out of the party and unable to stand as a Tory candidate againScott_P said:Graham Brady better check his mailbox.
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Come back May all is forgiven.0
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Johnson just isn’t up to it and he seems to be realising it.0
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If Johnson resigns and puts Corbyn into bat, and then demands an immediate VONC, he'll almost certainly get his election. There are too many MPs outside of the Labour Party who are too vehemently opposed to Corbyn in power to vote to keep him there. After all, as far as the Remainers are concerned they only need a PM in place who's ready and willing to ask for the A50 extension - and Corbyn will do that, because obviously to fail to do so would destroy the Labour Party. Beyond that, he's of no further use to all those who would otherwise oppose him politically.Casino_Royale said:
It’s very possible.GIN1138 said:
Really can't see a December election.Casino_Royale said:
I got on Dec at 14.0 this morning.MikeL said:Latest:
Oct - 2.52 / 2.58
Nov - 3.05 / 3.7
Dec - 4.0 / 5.9
But my main play is laying this year.
Weather's terrible. Is dark by 4pm. Most people are more concerned about Christmas and New Year.
December, January and February are all out, IMO.
November is very tricky too really.
I think it either happens in October or it's off until April/May and what the hell happens in the six months between October and April is anyone's guess.
The VONC would not affect Corbyn's ability to go to the EU summit and ask for the extension so, unless the Commons thinks there's a realistic chance of the EU27 saying no, there's no harm for the Remainers in voting him out immediately: as the incumbent, he would stay in as caretaker until election day. Therefore, if Labour declines to back an October 15th poll then November looks pretty much nailed on.0 -
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Damien Green to follow ???SandyRentool said:Ruddgate:
Will Amber be part of a traffic light coalition?
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So it doesn’t matter how many letters Boris writes, or whether they’re in English or Mandarin, the EU knows exactly what’s happening in the UK. Your comment was utterly crass and stupid, but that’s what we’ve come to expect from you.Philip_Thompson said:
So?Streeter said:
They do speak English and read the UK media you know.Philip_Thompson said:
If I was Boris I would "write two letters" and send BOTH to the European Council.algarkirk said:
True, but what that leaves unaddressed is the situation - not now impossible - in which the PM resigns - perhaps the only way of fulfilling his promise of not asking for an extension - but does not name a successor to HM the Queen because there isn't one in his opinion that could command a majority - just as he can't.Philip_Thompson said:
There's no such thing as "first try" as Brown showed in 2010. Either someone else can command Parliament, in which case they become PM, or nobody can in which case we need an election. Otherwise until then the existing PM remains in situ until there is either a clear alternative or an election that generates a clear alternative [and if the election is inconclusive the PM remains until a conclusion is reached].logical_song said:
Who knows.Slackbladder said:
Thats what i thought.Scott_P said:
That is exactly the planSlackbladder said:Am i being stupid, but whats stopping labour saying no again? Given the bill that basically says Boris MUST call an exention then he'd be forced to resign by his own words.
But what happens then?? Who the f-knows. corbyn gets to be PM I guess?
Maybe Corbyn gets first try and fails (Swinson against). Then maybe Ken Clarke?
(While parliament perhaps declines to VONC a non existent PM and declines to agree to an election).
Any thoughts?
In one letter I would copy and paste the letter Parliament has drafted in the bill.
In the other letter I would write that Parliament has declined to pass any deal, there is no intention to ratify any deal by Parliament and that this is just messing around so he does not want an extension but is legally obliged to ask . . . but if they want to reject the request he would understand and respect that.
EU would extend no doubt but it would be clear who the request has come from.0 -
The most unforgivable thing in cricket is a slow bowler bowling a no ball when a wicket would have been taken. That happened earlier today.0
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My favourite word is 'milk'.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Anabobazina, ha, I must confess the second one was not intentional.
Futtocks is a marvellous word, though.
Has been for some time.0 -
Utter crap, Boris is taking on the diehard Remainer fanatics like you once and for all in a way May never was, you wanted a war, boy have you now got one!!williamglenn said:Johnson just isn’t up to it and he seems to be realising it.
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No, we are heading for victory, even without you BigGBig_G_NorthWales said:
You have lost it as has BorisHYUFD said:
Nope, as we face the final showdown battle in the war with the diehard Remainers Boris has the public increasingly on his side as we prepare for the last battle and with the Tories ahead in every poll, any Tory MP who refuses to back Brexit Deal or No Deal is rightly now going to be thrown out of the party and unable to stand as a Tory candidate againScott_P said:Graham Brady better check his mailbox.
And Gove should assemble the men in grey suits...
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I am saddened HYUFD that you have transformed from a sensible conservative with an obsession with polls to a deluded disciple of a cult that is trashing everything you once stood forHYUFD said:
You have already gone from the Tory Party, your choice but the party itself is now fully behind Brexit Deal or No Deal and with Boris in the war with the diehard Remainers and CorbynBig_G_NorthWales said:
He is an utter disaster and has to goHYUFD said:Of the Brexit outcomes British voters think are still realistically possible, a plurality of 21% now prefer No Deal YouGov finds today.
Tied second are leaving the EU on a renegotiated Deal as Boris wants and Remaining in the EU after all on 19% each.
12% back a soft Brexit staying in the single market and customs union, 10% back EUref2 and just 5% back the date of Brexit being delayed past 31st October and 2% back May's existing Brexit Deal.
Leave voters split 41% for No Deal, 31% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 9% for soft Brexit. Remain voters split 38% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit.
Tory voters split 42% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal, 35% for No Deal and 8% for soft Brexit, Labour voters split 35% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 15% for soft Brexit, LD voters split 42% for Remain, 16% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit and Brexit Party voters split 59% for No Deal, 30% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 5% for soft Brexit.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/09/05/what-do-public-think-can-still-realistically-happe
I am a one nation conservative, not a Farage tribute act, and support the 100 conservatives/or sacked conservatives who I hope rebel in a block and create their own movement, and by the way, see the end to this disastrous brexit earthquake and engineer either a soft brexit or even remain
I am bitterly upset at what is happening but inthe end decency will prevail as we start to slowly heal the wounds both in the UK and the EU and restore international friendships and our reputation.
I no longer want to be associated with those who would create division and hatred against so many here and abroad
And I even accept that could be under Corbyn, but if it is, Boris, the ERG and yourself are all responsible for the economic armagedon that would follow him in office
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autocorrect of "milf"?kinabalu said:
My favourite word is 'milk'.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Anabobazina, ha, I must confess the second one was not intentional.
Futtocks is a marvellous word, though.
Has been for some time.0 -
Is that strictly accurate? As with May many Tories will be 'fully behind [a] Brexit deal' in theory but not like the look of the one they get. Won't we need to see what deal Boris achieves and see if all remaining Tory MPs back it before we declare them 'fully behind' it? Are Baker and Francois behind it? Clearly they are not behind any deal, so until we see the deal they cannot be assumed to be in support for starters.HYUFD said:
.... the party itself is now fully behind Brexit Deal or No DealBig_G_NorthWales said:
He is an utter disaster and has to goHYUFD said:Of the Brexit outcomes British voters think are still realistically possible, a plurality of 21% now prefer No Deal YouGov finds today.
Tied second are leaving the EU on a renegotiated Deal as Boris wants and Remaining in the EU after all on 19% each.
12% back a soft Brexit staying in the single market and customs union, 10% back EUref2 and just 5% back the date of Brexit being delayed past 31st October and 2% back May's existing Brexit Deal.
Leave voters split 41% for No Deal, 31% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 9% for soft Brexit. Remain voters split 38% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit.
Tory voters split 42% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal, 35% for No Deal and 8% for soft Brexit, Labour voters split 35% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 15% for soft Brexit, LD voters split 42% for Remain, 16% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit and Brexit Party voters split 59% for No Deal, 30% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 5% for soft Brexit.
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Big G you are a class act.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am saddened HYUFD that you have transformed from a sensible conservative with an obsession with polls to a deluded disciple of a cult that is trashing everything you once stood forHYUFD said:
You have already gone from the Tory Party, your choice but the party itself is now fully behind Brexit Deal or No Deal and with Boris in the war with the diehard Remainers and CorbynBig_G_NorthWales said:
He is an utter disaster and has to goHYUFD said:Of the Brexit outcomes British voters think are still realistically possible, a plurality of 21% now prefer No Deal YouGov finds today.
Tied second are leaving the EU on a renegotiated Deal as Boris wants and Remaining in the EU after all on 19% each.
12% back a soft Brexit staying in the single market and customs union, 10% back EUref2 and just 5% back the date of Brexit being delayed past 31st October and 2% back May's existing Brexit Deal.
Leave voters split 41% for No Deal, 31% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 9% for soft Brexit. Remain voters split 38% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit.
Tory voters split 42% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal, 35% for No Deal and 8% for soft Brexit, Labour voters split 35% for Remain, 18% for EUref2 and 15% for soft Brexit, LD voters split 42% for Remain, 16% for EUref2 and 14% for soft Brexit and Brexit Party voters split 59% for No Deal, 30% for a Boris renegotiated Brexit Deal and 5% for soft Brexit.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/09/05/what-do-public-think-can-still-realistically-happe
I am a one nation conservative, not a Farage tribute act, and support the 100 conservatives/or sacked conservatives who I hope rebel in a block and create their own movement, and by the way, see the end to this disastrous brexit earthquake and engineer either a soft brexit or even remain
I am bitterly upset at what is happening but inthe end decency will prevail as we start to slowly heal the wounds both in the UK and the EU and restore international friendships and our reputation.
I no longer want to be associated with those who would create division and hatred against so many here and abroad
And I even accept that could be under Corbyn, but if it is, Boris, the ERG and yourself are all responsible for the economic armagedon that would follow him in office1 -
Pretty sure you can play as a dual citizen, alas, so we need more. Plus that would just mean the French cricket team was good enough to be a test team through him alone, and still beat us.JackW said:
Make Steve Smith a French citizen and ineligible for test cricket for Australia ?dixiedean said:British proposals to EU reported by BBC.
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211? FFS.0
