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Boris Johnson fails to win the backing of enough MPs to hold a snap election next month, falling short of the two-thirds majority required by law
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It's happening, isn't it? Boris will be PM, he won't win a single vote, and we'll not leave the EU for the rest of time
Edit: third damn you vanilla
First.
The optics of Remainers in Parliament obstructing our exit more than 3 years after the referendum and even denying an election are . . . interesting to say the least.
The opposition rejecting an election is what Sir Humphrey may have called a "brave" decision.
However unlike Boris Johnson May and Brown actually could win a Parliamentary vote.
On latest events, the major Boris fans will still be happy, on the basis that the more parliament hinders him the more they have evidence for an election centred around Boris needing help to overcome those dastardly remainers. But obviously he has preferred dates, so if one is granted at a time he doesn't want, how bad must he think that will be for him?
He's just been elected by Jeremy Corbyn!
"OK, how about a general election?"
"Stop the coup. Stop the coup. Stop the coup."
Would have saved a lot of grief...
IIRC he is the PM with the fewest MPs since Ramsay MacDonald which did not turn out well for MacDonald.
I think them turning down an election will play very poorly with the public, they do look scared and on the run.
Also, I don't know who you're trying to score points against.
If Johnson lost an election does the current opposition seriously think the EU would chuck us out on the 31st ? Of course they wouldn't - they'd await new discussions with Corbyn, Swinson or whoever won.
Boris may be more deserving of the question of whether he deserves to be PM as so far he cannot demonstrate the confidence of the House (except implicitly, in that they are not seeking, yet, to bring down his government), but the unelected bit (as a reference to not leading them into an election, as it is usually used) is an irrelevance that political people persist in dragging out. Particularly when he is offering to let himself become an elected PM, and they said no.
One thing that doesn’t have a mandate is still being in the EU 3 years and 2.5 months after we voted to leave it
Or was Boris mistaken? He seems to be mistaken a lot.
If there is a correct technical solution to the border then lets drop the vile backstop, enter a transition [during which the backstop doesn't apply anyway], avoid the risk of no deal and work on the solution.
I don't care if the EU or Ireland don't drag their feet once in the backstop. I object to being in the backstop full stop. And if there is an [imperfect] solution that can be done immediately in the event of no deal, it should be a reasonable fallback at the end of a transition.
The answer to "what happens between the end of the transition period and the implementation of the technical solution" should not be the backstop IMO it should be "unless an agreement otherwise is reached at the time, then the same as would occur in a no deal scenario".
Johnson and Cumming are saying this is permanent which is annoying people like Edward Leigh.
The optics also look bad, kicking out the likes of Soames and Clarke looks bad when only a few months ago the PM and most of the cabinet were rebelling like Soames and Clarke.
On Peston claiming Corbyn had a constitutional duty to fall for his cunning plan...
But the Starmer/others strategy isn't about preventing a "No Deal" Brexit. It's entirely about attempting to humiliate Johnson by making him sign Corbyn's surrender letter in order to gain narrow political advantage before a GE begins.
It's too clever by half !
Johnson is becoming the totem for leave, Farage has barely been on the airwaves. He's drowned out right now and I expect polls to show further collapse into the Tories of the leave vote.
What you are saying is right, I just want to highlight his hypocrisy. Words have meaning.
On Peston tonight we have Dominic Grieve, Jess Phillips and the SPAD sacked by Cummings the other day. Should be interesting
With respect the same logic on mandates applies to Winston Churchill, Neville Chamberlain in 1940 and 1937, just like Anthony Eden in April 1955 and Harold MacMillan in 1957.
Not an MP who literally walked through the opposite lobby!
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1169356849185005568
What you guys need, desperately, are some half-decent politicians, civil servants and journalists.
Senlis
Soissins
Beauvais
Amiens
Chartres
Brechin
Dunblane
St Andrews
Fortrose
"Who voted for and against an early election?
The division list shows 284 Conservative MPs voted for the general election motion along with 10 DUP MPs and independent Charlie Elphicke.
Those who voted against also included 13 Lib Dems, three Plaid Cymru, five Independent Group for Change and seven Independents."
https://news.sky.com/story/live-labour-not-voting-for-an-election-today-says-sir-keir-starmer-11801840
The likes of Teddy Taylor, Nick Budgen, and Teresa Gorman either voted against it or abstained, which led to the whip being removed.
I need to Google this. Weird!
Today's vote will be yesterday's fish and chip paper.
As John Major put it between November 1990 and April 1992 he felt like he was living in sin with the electorate.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/07/13/if-or-when-theresa-may-is-replaced-her-successor-shouldnt-hold-a-snap-election/
Either way, some of us are going to look really stupid.
To think barely a week ago I was giving Boris 8 out of 10 for his first month in the job, even as a soft Remainer...
Probably could have made some money betting if I'd only been to the chippie yesterday.
Fog of war.
Bozo and Cumstain certainly aren't.