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I hope you are right, I really do. However, I think 95% are not paying attention and they don’t care.RochdalePioneers said:
He won't. He is Labour voter kyptonite. Only the death cultists still think He is Perfect. Everyone with a heart and a brain can see what a godawful group of people he represents. And he has pissed off leave and remain voters in equal measure. Labour would need a coalition deal. And can't do compromise to have a coalition with their own deputy leader.Gallowgate said:
Except we wont. Corbynistas will cling onto power. Labour MPs will not do anything. The general public will become numb (this has already happened) and then eventually he will be voted into Downing Street.RochdalePioneers said:
No its far far worse than that. Cretinous scum do care, they care because the truth about their sick cancer death cult has come out. Hence their screaming hypocrisy attacking whistle blowers "who keep us safe" and libelling the former party staffers.Gallowgate said:The worst thing about this whole Labour anti-semitism saga is that people, on the whole, just don’t care.
As someone of Jewish heritage myself it makes me very depressed.
Soon we will have two Labour Parties represented in Parliament as in the past we have had two Liberal Parties. I expect two Tory Parties shortly afterwards when PM Bozza demands no deal in "shock" at the EU refusing to renegotiate0 -
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Hunt is showing the 2001 Hague electionSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
Johnson the 2015 Cameron result0 -
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https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1150144887712600064
So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?0 -
2001 for HuntSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
2015 for Johnson0 -
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Always found it curious that all three were led by people with boys Christian names for surnames. In fact four between the three of them!ydoethur said:
From 1931-35 there were actually three Liberal parties - the official party led by Samuel, the National Liberals led by Simon, and the Lloyd George group of independent Liberals.RochdalePioneers said:
No its far far worse than that. Cretinous scum do care, they care because the truth about their sick cancer death cult has come out. Hence their screaming hypocrisy attacking whistle blowers "who keep us safe" and libelling the former party staffers.Gallowgate said:The worst thing about this whole Labour anti-semitism saga is that people, on the whole, just don’t care.
As someone of Jewish heritage myself it makes me very depressed.
Soon we will have two Labour Parties represented in Parliament as in the past we have had two Liberal Parties. I expect two Tory Parties shortly afterwards when PM Bozza demands no deal in "shock" at the EU refusing to renegotiate0 -
The "journalist" assured us nobody else had handled the cables...TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
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So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?0 -
Except that is yet another outright lie from you. I made clear I opposed that poster when it was first produced and refused to campaign using it. It is on the record on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
Basically if your only response to being caught fiddling figures is to reply with outright lies then you are unfit to moderate on here.
You are a disgrace.1 -
Nope, Hunt is 2001 and Johnson is 2010.Charles said:
Hunt is showing the 2001 Hague electionSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
Johnson the 2015 Cameron result0 -
Yet you still vote Leave, so much for opposing that poster.Richard_Tyndall said:
Except that is yet another outright lie from you. I made clear I opposed that poster when it was first produced and refused to campaign using it. It is on the record on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
Basically if your only response to being caught fiddling figures is to reply with outright lies then you are unfit to moderate on here.
You are a disgrace.
There are many other posters from Vote Leave that are of a similar favour.
You are the second worst anti racist campaigner after Jeremy Corbyn.0 -
No one on the chart in the paper last weekScott_P said:
The "journalist" assured us nobody else had handled the cables...TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
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So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?0 -
Boris wasn't the candidate in 2010. If you are going to fiddle the figures at east try to be consistent about it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, Hunt is 2001 and Johnson is 2010.Charles said:
Hunt is showing the 2001 Hague electionSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
Johnson the 2015 Cameron result
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Clearly he isn't fussy.TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
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https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1150144887712600064
So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?
But then he isn't exactly a catch either, is he?0 -
Desperate defence from someone who has been caught out making claims that in the past would have got people banned. Like I said you are a disgrace.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you still vote Leave, so much for opposing that poster.Richard_Tyndall said:
Except that is yet another outright lie from you. I made clear I opposed that poster when it was first produced and refused to campaign using it. It is on the record on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
Basically if your only response to being caught fiddling figures is to reply with outright lies then you are unfit to moderate on here.
You are a disgrace.
There are many other posters from Vote Leave that are of a similar favour.
You are the second worst anti racist campaigner after Jeremy Corbyn.
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That’s what I thought first & Googled... saw Johnson elected in 2015 and edited...TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, Hunt is 2001 and Johnson is 2010.Charles said:
Hunt is showing the 2001 Hague electionSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
Johnson the 2015 Cameron result
The point is that you are comparing a Tory election victory vs their worst result in a century1 -
I'm not fiddling the figures, I'm pointing out the majority they inherited.Richard_Tyndall said:
Boris wasn't the candidate in 2010. If you are going to fiddle the figures at east try to be consistent about it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, Hunt is 2001 and Johnson is 2010.Charles said:
Hunt is showing the 2001 Hague electionSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
Johnson the 2015 Cameron result
Hunt inherited the 2001 majority, Boris inherited the 2010 majority.
My figures are consistent, I'm comparing their majorities today to the majority they were defending when they first stood in the seat.0 -
Hunt wasn’t the candidate in 2001. The data is consistent but the methodology flawedRichard_Tyndall said:
Boris wasn't the candidate in 2010. If you are going to fiddle the figures at east try to be consistent about it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, Hunt is 2001 and Johnson is 2010.Charles said:
Hunt is showing the 2001 Hague electionSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
Johnson the 2015 Cameron result0 -
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The Eurosceptic Philby has a ring. But it rather presupposes that any of them aren’t quislings.0
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I've just watched his interview with Andrew Neill on iplayer. It was pathetic. Totally unconvincing. I am now more certain than ever that Brexit will not be delivered.FF43 said:I am sick of Johnson already and he hasn't been elected yet.
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Even Charles has acknowledged my figures are consistent.Richard_Tyndall said:
Desperate defence from someone who has been caught out making claims that in the past would have got people banned. Like I said you are a disgrace.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you still vote Leave, so much for opposing that poster.Richard_Tyndall said:
Except that is yet another outright lie from you. I made clear I opposed that poster when it was first produced and refused to campaign using it. It is on the record on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
Basically if your only response to being caught fiddling figures is to reply with outright lies then you are unfit to moderate on here.
You are a disgrace.
There are many other posters from Vote Leave that are of a similar favour.
You are the second worst anti racist campaigner after Jeremy Corbyn.
Are you disputing the figures are accurate?0 -
If two out of five voters are less likely to back Labour because of its Brexit stance that leaves 3/5 who haven’t said that .Scott_P said:
And two out of five 40% is far less than the original Leave vote so this looks pretty desperate stuff by the DE.
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That did not turn out well for them...ydoethur said:
From 1931-35 there were actually three Liberal parties - the official party led by Samuel, the National Liberals led by Simon, and the Lloyd George group of independent Liberals.RochdalePioneers said:
No its far far worse than that. Cretinous scum do care, they care because the truth about their sick cancer death cult has come out. Hence their screaming hypocrisy attacking whistle blowers "who keep us safe" and libelling the former party staffers.Gallowgate said:The worst thing about this whole Labour anti-semitism saga is that people, on the whole, just don’t care.
As someone of Jewish heritage myself it makes me very depressed.
Soon we will have two Labour Parties represented in Parliament as in the past we have had two Liberal Parties. I expect two Tory Parties shortly afterwards when PM Bozza demands no deal in "shock" at the EU refusing to renegotiate
Two Labour parties, three Liberals. Con got a landslide bigger than God and just for shits and giggles still went into coalition with some other bits and bobs. 554 seats out of 615. Bigger than any wet dream of Blair.
We don't talk about the 1930's National Governments enough...
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MANSION HOUSE has all the vowels.AlastairMeeks said:
St John’s Wood used to be the only tube station that had none of the letters of the word MACKEREL in it. Perhaps Sunil could confirm if that is still true.AndyJS said:If you visit St John's Wood tube station tomorrow, the "mind the gap" announcements will be being made by Jonathan Agnew.
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Consistent, yes. Meaningful, well that's another question entirely...TheScreamingEagles said:
Even Charles has acknowledged my figures are consistent.Richard_Tyndall said:
Desperate defence from someone who has been caught out making claims that in the past would have got people banned. Like I said you are a disgrace.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you still vote Leave, so much for opposing that poster.Richard_Tyndall said:
Except that is yet another outright lie from you. I made clear I opposed that poster when it was first produced and refused to campaign using it. It is on the record on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
Basically if your only response to being caught fiddling figures is to reply with outright lies then you are unfit to moderate on here.
You are a disgrace.
There are many other posters from Vote Leave that are of a similar favour.
You are the second worst anti racist campaigner after Jeremy Corbyn.
Are you disputing the figures are accurate?1 -
They are misleading on a scale that would embarrass even the Lib Dems.TheScreamingEagles said:
Even Charles has acknowledged my figures are consistent.Richard_Tyndall said:
Desperate defence from someone who has been caught out making claims that in the past would have got people banned. Like I said you are a disgrace.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you still vote Leave, so much for opposing that poster.Richard_Tyndall said:
Except that is yet another outright lie from you. I made clear I opposed that poster when it was first produced and refused to campaign using it. It is on the record on here.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
Basically if your only response to being caught fiddling figures is to reply with outright lies then you are unfit to moderate on here.
You are a disgrace.
There are many other posters from Vote Leave that are of a similar favour.
You are the second worst anti racist campaigner after Jeremy Corbyn.
Are you disputing the figures are inaccurate?
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So does Heathrow Terminal Four.Sunil_Prasannan said:
MANSION HOUSE has all the vowels.AlastairMeeks said:
St John’s Wood used to be the only tube station that had none of the letters of the word MACKEREL in it. Perhaps Sunil could confirm if that is still true.AndyJS said:If you visit St John's Wood tube station tomorrow, the "mind the gap" announcements will be being made by Jonathan Agnew.
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My favourite anecdote is about Edgar Wallace, who stood for the Indie Liberals in Blackpool and lost badly. It was said he came up against a candidate who had it all over him when it came to chilling people's blood with far-fetched stories.viewcode said:
That did not turn out well for them...ydoethur said:
From 1931-35 there were actually three Liberal parties - the official party led by Samuel, the National Liberals led by Simon, and the Lloyd George group of independent Liberals.RochdalePioneers said:
No its far far worse than that. Cretinous scum do care, they care because the truth about their sick cancer death cult has come out. Hence their screaming hypocrisy attacking whistle blowers "who keep us safe" and libelling the former party staffers.Gallowgate said:The worst thing about this whole Labour anti-semitism saga is that people, on the whole, just don’t care.
As someone of Jewish heritage myself it makes me very depressed.
Soon we will have two Labour Parties represented in Parliament as in the past we have had two Liberal Parties. I expect two Tory Parties shortly afterwards when PM Bozza demands no deal in "shock" at the EU refusing to renegotiate
Two Labour parties, three Liberals. Con got a landslide bigger than God and just for shits and giggles still went into coalition with some other bits and bobs. 554 seats out of 615. Bigger than any wet dream of Blair.
We don't talk about the 1930's National Governments enough...0 -
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Since the 2010 GE the Tory share of the vote nationwide went up by over 6% yet Boris managed to halve the Tory majority in Uxbridge whilst in the same period Jeremy Hunt has increased the Tory majority in SW Surrey by 6k.tlg86 said:
Consistent, yes. Meaningful, well that's another question entirely...
As I said in my original post it was one of the stats I was planning on using in a thread tomorrow, but that thread has been nuked by this thread as it was similar to my piece.0 -
Oh Sunil! You were doing so well, and now you've gone and let yourself downSunil_Prasannan said:
The best bar charts ever:TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/876894066478329857
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Let’s hope they don’t breed ! The off spring would turn out something like the Village of the Damned !ydoethur said:
Clearly he isn't fussy.TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
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https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1150144887712600064
So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?
But then he isn't exactly a catch either, is he?
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So lets talk. The governing Conservative Party is about to elect a leader who will repel a good dozen or more MPs from its ranks when No Deal becomes the policy. The Labour Party is as divided as its possible to get - unhappy MPs are unlikely to put up with the increasingly paranoid insanity of LOTO especially of the Lords quit en masse.viewcode said:Two Labour parties, three Liberals. Con got a landslide bigger than God and just for shits and giggles still went into coalition with some other bits and bobs. 554 seats out of 615. Bigger than any wet dream of Blair.
We don't talk about the 1930's National Governments enough...
And at the same time as blue on blue / red on red madness we have the ticking time bomb of Brexit, with impossible promises made and impossible numbers to deliver any solution. An election may cure it, or may not. And cowardice suggests no election is happening anyway.
Which means we get to the denouement - there is agreement across the house, but not across parties. A Country Before Party solution is needed. Entertainingly, watch how Jezbollah scum cultists denounce Country before Party Labour MPs as Tories, whilst Corbyn and the continuity communists sit in opposition alongside the ERG and DUP and vote with them0 -
While point blank ignoring the fact that one was selected at an electoral lowpoint, the other at an electoral high point, while also ignoring the split vote due to the independent taking thousands of votes in Hunt's.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not fiddling the figures, I'm pointing out the majority they inherited.Richard_Tyndall said:
Boris wasn't the candidate in 2010. If you are going to fiddle the figures at east try to be consistent about it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nope, Hunt is 2001 and Johnson is 2010.Charles said:
Hunt is showing the 2001 Hague electionSunil_Prasannan said:
Which are the selection years in question?Charles said:
A bar chart worthy of a Lib DemTheScreamingEagles said:
Shame on you Mike for knowingly misleading your twitter followers
Johnson the 2015 Cameron result
Hunt inherited the 2001 majority, Boris inherited the 2010 majority.
My figures are consistent, I'm comparing their majorities today to the majority they were defending when they first stood in the seat.
Its garbage data meant to mislead not inform. Comparing from the same starting point in 2010 Hunt has lost share and Boris has gained it.1 -
Once again, consistent but not necessarily meaningful. As has already been pointed out, the Tory share of the vote in Boris's seat has increased since 2010 and it has decreased in Hunt's.TheScreamingEagles said:
Since the 2010 GE the Tory share of the vote nationwide went up by over 6% yet Boris managed to halve the Tory majority in Uxbridge whilst in the same period Jeremy Hunt has increased the Tory majority in SW Surrey by 6k.tlg86 said:
Consistent, yes. Meaningful, well that's another question entirely...
As I said in my original post it was one of the stats I was planning on using in a thread tomorrow, but that thread has been nuked by this thread as it was similar to my piece.1 -
Stop right there! You started talking about share, so continue talking about share. Now you're being inconsistent.TheScreamingEagles said:
Since the 2010 GE the Tory share of the vote nationwide went up by over 6% yet Boris managed to halve the Tory majority in Uxbridge whilst in the same period Jeremy Hunt has increased the Tory majority in SW Surrey by 6k.tlg86 said:
Consistent, yes. Meaningful, well that's another question entirely...
As I said in my original post it was one of the stats I was planning on using in a thread tomorrow, but that thread has been nuked by this thread as it was similar to my piece.
Since 2010 GE the Tory share has gone up by over 6%, Boris's share has gone up but by less in that period, Hunt's share has actually gone down in that period.1 -
Positively Corbynista from you Leavers.tlg86 said:
Once again, consistent but not necessarily meaningful. As has already been pointed out, the Tory share of the vote in Boris's seat has increased since 2010 and it has decreased in Hunt's.TheScreamingEagles said:
Since the 2010 GE the Tory share of the vote nationwide went up by over 6% yet Boris managed to halve the Tory majority in Uxbridge whilst in the same period Jeremy Hunt has increased the Tory majority in SW Surrey by 6k.tlg86 said:
Consistent, yes. Meaningful, well that's another question entirely...
As I said in my original post it was one of the stats I was planning on using in a thread tomorrow, but that thread has been nuked by this thread as it was similar to my piece.
You're using the same faulty logic as Corbynistas who cite Labour's increase of the share of the vote in 2017 as the only metric to judge if someone is successful.
Whereas the actual votes and majority in the seat is a better metric in similar sized seats. Plus Hunt in 2017 was specifically targeted and the Greens pulled out and Labour and the Lib Dems soft pedalled.0 -
He's been doing that for 22 years, why should he change now?RochdalePioneers said:Entertainingly, watch how Jezbollah scum cultists denounce Country before Party Labour MPs as Tories, whilst Corbyn and the continuity communists sit in opposition alongside the ERG and DUP and vote with them
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I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.1
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Are there any that have each vowel only once?AlastairMeeks said:
So does Heathrow Terminal Four.Sunil_Prasannan said:
MANSION HOUSE has all the vowels.AlastairMeeks said:
St John’s Wood used to be the only tube station that had none of the letters of the word MACKEREL in it. Perhaps Sunil could confirm if that is still true.AndyJS said:If you visit St John's Wood tube station tomorrow, the "mind the gap" announcements will be being made by Jonathan Agnew.
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Really, I tipped Hunt at 100/1 and 66/1 and when it was clear Boris was going to make the final two I advised a reverse ferret which should have yielded you a profit, particularly from the Leadsom backer. Ask Casino Royale he followed a similar strategy to mine.tlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
Also I did do regular threads advising laying people like IDS and Jacob Rees-Mogg.0 -
I was, shall we say, "triggered" by TSE's bar chartBenpointer said:
Oh Sunil! You were doing so well, and now you've gone and let yourself downSunil_Prasannan said:
The best bar charts ever:TheScreamingEagles said:
Yet you were happy to campaign for but get outraged by this bar chart.Richard_Tyndall said:
Oh dear. I am no Boris fan at all but it is shame that when various people have already pointed out the error in your interpretation, you persist with a misleading claim.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/876894066478329857
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So we've learned tonight that a bar chart triggers Leavers but things like this do not.
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He was on Newsnight last week. If true he gave a very dishonest performance. Pass the sick bag Alice....Scott_P said:
The "journalist" assured us nobody else had handled the cables...TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
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So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?0 -
Hunt/Boris share/vote. Who actually gives a shit?1
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Except that the platform roundels have "4" as opposed to "Four":AlastairMeeks said:
So does Heathrow Terminal Four.Sunil_Prasannan said:
MANSION HOUSE has all the vowels.AlastairMeeks said:
St John’s Wood used to be the only tube station that had none of the letters of the word MACKEREL in it. Perhaps Sunil could confirm if that is still true.AndyJS said:If you visit St John's Wood tube station tomorrow, the "mind the gap" announcements will be being made by Jonathan Agnew.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48975312
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Heathrow_Terminal_4_tube_roundel.JPG/640px-Heathrow_Terminal_4_tube_roundel.JPG0 -
If Trump had done the Iran deal it would have been the greatest deal of all time .Scott_P said:
One can only hope the lunatic chokes on a cheeseburger and the world is rid of this cancer.0 -
Well, it's cheery in here tonight. I watched the Formula E so I'm in a good mood.0
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I'm very cheery myself.solarflare said:Well, it's cheery in here tonight. I watched the Formula E so I'm in a good mood.
Though I expect to be sick in the morning, England in a world cup final is making me nervous.0 -
Brixton and Woodford are the only two stations that have none of the letters of mushy peas (one for the northerners there, and Lord Mandelson).Sunil_Prasannan said:
Except that the platform roundels have "4" as opposed to "Four":AlastairMeeks said:
So does Heathrow Terminal Four.Sunil_Prasannan said:
MANSION HOUSE has all the vowels.AlastairMeeks said:
St John’s Wood used to be the only tube station that had none of the letters of the word MACKEREL in it. Perhaps Sunil could confirm if that is still true.AndyJS said:If you visit St John's Wood tube station tomorrow, the "mind the gap" announcements will be being made by Jonathan Agnew.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48975312
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Heathrow_Terminal_4_tube_roundel.JPG/640px-Heathrow_Terminal_4_tube_roundel.JPG0 -
Does the incompetence have a limit?TheScreamingEagles said:1 -
People who bet on it. People who care about racism at the top of political parties.Benpointer said:Hunt/Boris share/vote. Who actually gives a shit?
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Come on, India! (only kidding!)TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm very cheery myself.solarflare said:Well, it's cheery in here tonight. I watched the Formula E so I'm in a good mood.
Though I expect to be sick in the morning, England in a world cup final is making me nervous.0 -
I do, I've got some bets on Boris not holding his seat at the next GE.Benpointer said:Hunt/Boris share/vote. Who actually gives a shit?
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The next countries set to join are Serbia and Montenegro, "by 2025".TheScreamingEagles said:So we've learned tonight that a bar chart triggers Leavers but things like this do not.
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I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/11500946873882214410 -
I'm no lawyer but when I looked at the legislation the other day it looked quite clear-cut to me that the disclosure meets the section 3 terms.Scott_P said:0 -
You misunderstand me.DecrepitJohnL said:
People who bet on it. People who care about racism at the top of political parties.Benpointer said:Hunt/Boris share/vote. Who actually gives a shit?
I care about who is PM (though have zero say in it right now) but I really don't understand what difference it makes whether Hunt or Johnson gained or lost vote numbers or share since 2001 or 2010.
Johnson is going to become PM, a role for which he is entirely unsuited, and the country will take another step in the wrong direction; and I can do sweet FA about it.0 -
Typical Boris Johnson, he cannot decide whether he is a journalist or somebody who upholds the national interest or security as a primary objective. Boris has a bad track record of trying to surf two waves. Michael Portillo once told Johnson he had to choose between being a serious politician and a media entertainer. Boris could not make the change back then and he cannot decide whether to be a journalist or statesman now.Scott_P said:0 -
When are Syria and Iraq joining?Sunil_Prasannan said:
The next countries set to join are Serbia and Montenegro, "by 2025".TheScreamingEagles said:So we've learned tonight that a bar chart triggers Leavers but things like this do not.
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Sorry -- thought you meant the Hunt/Boris shares of the leadership vote, which some of us have bet on. A hazard of reading threads in the wrong direction.Benpointer said:
You misunderstand me.DecrepitJohnL said:
People who bet on it. People who care about racism at the top of political parties.Benpointer said:Hunt/Boris share/vote. Who actually gives a shit?
I care about who is PM (though have zero say in it right now) but I really don't understand what difference it makes whether Hunt or Johnson gained or lost vote numbers or share since 2001 or 2010.
Johnson is going to become PM, a role for which he is entirely unsuited, and the country will take another step in the wrong direction; and I can do sweet FA about it.0 -
Probably before we get a dealTheScreamingEagles said:
When are Syria and Iraq joining?Sunil_Prasannan said:
The next countries set to join are Serbia and Montenegro, "by 2025".TheScreamingEagles said:So we've learned tonight that a bar chart triggers Leavers but things like this do not.
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Indeed. And indeed.RochdalePioneers said:
So lets talk. The governing Conservative Party is about to elect a leader who will repel a good dozen or more MPs from its ranks when No Deal becomes the policy. The Labour Party is as divided as its possible to get - unhappy MPs are unlikely to put up with the increasingly paranoid insanity of LOTO especially of the Lords quit en masse.viewcode said:Two Labour parties, three Liberals. Con got a landslide bigger than God and just for shits and giggles still went into coalition with some other bits and bobs. 554 seats out of 615. Bigger than any wet dream of Blair.
We don't talk about the 1930's National Governments enough...
And at the same time as blue on blue / red on red madness we have the ticking time bomb of Brexit, with impossible promises made and impossible numbers to deliver any solution. An election may cure it, or may not. And cowardice suggests no election is happening anyway.
Which means we get to the denouement - there is agreement across the house, but not across parties. A Country Before Party solution is needed. Entertainingly, watch how Jezbollah scum cultists denounce Country before Party Labour MPs as Tories, whilst Corbyn and the continuity communists sit in opposition alongside the ERG and DUP and vote with them0 -
Also clear cut that section 5 of the Official Secrets Act applies to Oakshott and the Mail. In other words if Oakshott obtains damaging material relating to foreign relations from a Crown servant and publishes it, she also commits an offence under the Act. If they found the material accidentally left on a train, it would be different.glw said:
I'm no lawyer but when I looked at the legislation the other day it looked quite clear-cut to me that the disclosure meets the section 3 terms.Scott_P said:0 -
More likely to have met through Ceefax back then?!TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
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No we have learnt that when you are in a corner you will tell outright lies to squirm your way out. You are a fucking disgrace.TheScreamingEagles said:So we've learned tonight that a bar chart triggers Leavers but things like this do not.
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We’re in the process of finding out.Gallowgate said:
Does the incompetence have a limit?TheScreamingEagles said:
It may go on for some time.
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Welcome to PB, you must be new here.Benpointer said:Hunt/Boris share/vote. Who actually gives a shit?
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Looks like the Guardian has a defence against little Isabel’s libel suit now.0
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Anyone for incompetence tennis:Gallowgate said:
Does the incompetence have a limit?TheScreamingEagles said:
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/IMG_0896.jpg0 -
They make a perfect couple, they don't spoil another...TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
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https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1150144887712600064
So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?0 -
TSE owes me a £1 when Boris beats Hunt I shall kindly donate to PB fundstlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
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Strange, just about every couple I know met at school, college or work. Maybe it's an American thing.TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/11500946873882214410 -
Be happy with that.HYUFD said:
TSE owes me a £1 when Boris beats Hunt I shall kindly donate to PB fundstlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
It’s probably the only consequence of his winning which won’t end up disappointing you.
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Next people will be chanting "lock her up" given recent revelations on the process of dissemination of information.IanB2 said:Looks like the Guardian has a defence against little Isabel’s libel suit now.
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It’s plausible. I was using Fidonet via a dialup modem in the late 80s. I think I remember bulletin boards with dating sections - though I was at a sufficiently tender age my main interest was downloading programs for my Amstrad.TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
In other dating news, La Oakeshott’s (evidently now estranged) husband is lovely, and if she’s left him for a Brexit Party Neanderthal than more fool her.0 -
I have the champagne on ice for election night in the autumn and a famous Boris victoryNigelb said:
Be happy with that.HYUFD said:
TSE owes me a £1 when Boris beats Hunt I shall kindly donate to PB fundstlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
It’s probably the only consequence of his winning which won’t end up disappointing you.0 -
Does watching Pornhub count as meeting your partner online?...TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/11500946873882214410 -
Best of luck.HYUFD said:
I have the champagne on ice for election night in the autumn and a famous Boris victoryNigelb said:
Be happy with that.HYUFD said:
TSE owes me a £1 when Boris beats Hunt I shall kindly donate to PB fundstlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
It’s probably the only consequence of his winning which won’t end up disappointing you.
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You claimed the Brexit party was going to win Peterborough, then that the Brexit party would win the next GE and now you think Boris will win a GE this autumn! I can see why you like Boris as he has similar levels of consistency...HYUFD said:
I have the champagne on ice for election night in the autumn and a famous Boris victoryNigelb said:
Be happy with that.HYUFD said:
TSE owes me a £1 when Boris beats Hunt I shall kindly donate to PB fundstlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
It’s probably the only consequence of his winning which won’t end up disappointing you.0 -
What if Boris is the memo leaker and they need a flunky to take the rap. By the time you get out the ice will have meltedHYUFD said:
I have the champagne on ice for election night in the autumn and a famous Boris victoryNigelb said:
Be happy with that.HYUFD said:
TSE owes me a £1 when Boris beats Hunt I shall kindly donate to PB fundstlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
It’s probably the only consequence of his winning which won’t end up disappointing you.0 -
Not impossible that one met someone online in 1980s via ARPANET and UseNet groups etc etc.Foxy said:
Does watching Pornhub count as meeting your partner online?...TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
But 2% seems highly unlikely.0 -
Kaaa f**cking booooom!Foxy said:
They make a perfect couple, they don't spoil another...TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
👀👀👀👀
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1150144887712600064
So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?
Unbelievable.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-party-richard-tice-darroch-18206347
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If you thought Brexit politics had scraped the barrel, then tonight's news takes it to 11.0
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No way is that graph at 2% in the 80s.rottenborough said:
Not impossible that one met someone online in 1980s via ARPANET and UseNet groups etc etc.Foxy said:
Does watching Pornhub count as meeting your partner online?...TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
But 2% seems highly unlikely.0 -
Maybe it is me, but.... play this.
Who is Jerry Formby?
https://twitter.com/PA/status/1150083062547525634
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I have never said the Brexit Party will win the next general election provided the Tories deliver Brexit, only if the Tories extend again and fail to commit to deliver Brexit does that become a possibilityThe_Taxman said:
You claimed the Brexit party was going to win Peterborough, then that the Brexit party would win the next GE and now you think Boris will win a GE this autumn! I can see why you like Boris as he has similar levels of consistency...HYUFD said:
I have the champagne on ice for election night in the autumn and a famous Boris victoryNigelb said:
Be happy with that.HYUFD said:
TSE owes me a £1 when Boris beats Hunt I shall kindly donate to PB fundstlg86 said:I'm sorry Mike and TSE, but you've had a shocker here. This is supposed to be a level headed betting site. Unfortunately you'd have lost a lot of money following your views on Boris over the last two years.
It’s probably the only consequence of his winning which won’t end up disappointing you.0 -
One interesting aspect of this is that if couples last longer if met in one way, compared to another, then they will be overrepresented compared to the number of couples formed that way.FF43 said:
Strange, just about every couple I know met at school, college or work. Maybe it's an American thing.TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
So, if I'd been asked the question 15 years ago I'd have answered "met at college", but now I would answer "met online", and the present has already lasted more than twice as long as the earlier.0 -
It explains a very strange interview on Newsnight with Tice and two journalists who took a very different view from him on the Darroch affair. Kirsty wanted to know if he or Farage were behind the leaks and about Farage being bankrolled by Banks and he kept saying 'you're doing it again you're asking the wrong question'. A most unattractive man but at least we know what the right question was even if Kirsty didn't.rottenborough said:
Kaaa f**cking booooom!Foxy said:
They make a perfect couple, they don't spoil another...TheScreamingEagles said:OOOOOOOOOHHHH
👀👀👀👀
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1150144887712600064
So Richard Tice is dating Isabel Oakeshott eh?
Unbelievable.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-party-richard-tice-darroch-182063470 -
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Following on from this, some of the decline in, say, "met at school" will be due to the decline in the length of couples generally as, once you've broken up with your school sweetheart you are unlikely to meet your new partner at school (if you're no longer at school).OblitusSumMe said:
One interesting aspect of this is that if couples last longer if met in one way, compared to another, then they will be overrepresented compared to the number of couples formed that way.FF43 said:
Strange, just about every couple I know met at school, college or work. Maybe it's an American thing.TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
So, if I'd been asked the question 15 years ago I'd have answered "met at college", but now I would answer "met online", and the present has already lasted more than twice as long as the earlier.0 -
I wondered whether it included something like classified ads as "online" as they were the natural precursors to today's dating sites (in the case of Guardian soulmates directly so). That would explain the high early figures for online.rottenborough said:
Not impossible that one met someone online in 1980s via ARPANET and UseNet groups etc etc.Foxy said:
Does watching Pornhub count as meeting your partner online?...TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
But 2% seems highly unlikely.0 -
Something me and you agree on...Charles said:
Someone’s health shouldn’t be a free pass.TheScreamingEagles said:
Tom Watson is a disgrace then so is Corbyn, remember he sacked Thagnam Debbonaire when she battling cancer.TheJezziah said:Tom Watson you are a fucking disgrace...
Well done Len, someone had to say it. We have had a leadership contest since 2015 time we had a deputy one as well. Tom can stand again if he thinks the members back him.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-shadow-cabinet-thangam-debbonaire-cancer-a7141341.html
It may be sh1tty on a personal level but it’s not a free pass
But not Tom Watson...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/row-over-bullying-of-pregnant-labour-mp-ellie-reeves-rocks-party-a4181316.html
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Deputy Labour leader Tom Watson today hit out at the plot, branding it “reprehensible bullying” and verging on “mob rule”.
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https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1146301290416410625?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1146301290416410625&ref_url=https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/watson-urges-shadow-cabinet-to-condemn-bullying-of-mp-for-williamson-criticism/
I'm no doctor and in fairness I haven't experienced either but being pregnant in the early stages and someone Tom doesn't mind politically seems to be a serious condition...
Having chemotherapy and being someone Tom doesn't like politically means you are okay to drag the person's name through the mud in the media for political advantage.
The conclusion here is either Tom doesn't think people's conditions is an issue when it comes to attacking them politically and he has been cynically doing so for political advantage because he is scum.
Or Tom does think peoples conditions matter as an issue when it comes to attacking them politically but is doing so anyway because he is scum.
I don't really care either way but he has shown himself up for what he is.
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2% of people probably miss remember. Or would rather not say that they met at the freshers disco.OblitusSumMe said:
I wondered whether it included something like classified ads as "online" as they were the natural precursors to today's dating sights (in the case of Guardian soulmates directly so). That would explain the high early figures for online.rottenborough said:
Not impossible that one met someone online in 1980s via ARPANET and UseNet groups etc etc.Foxy said:
Does watching Pornhub count as meeting your partner online?...TheScreamingEagles said:I think people who met online in the 80s might be the new 2% of respondents who told pollsters they had been decapitated.
https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1150094687388221441
But 2% seems highly unlikely.0 -
I was driving through the constituency about a week ago and there were Lib Dem posters everywhere, something you don't often see in England these days at election time. Brecon has a lovely area next to the canal incidentally, with an arts centre and theatre.rottenborough said:0
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