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Delusional, almost everyone is assuming Boris is going to win. I doubt most people could recall one interesting thing Jeremy Hunt has ever said, let alone what his Cabinet position is.TheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.0 -
What has happened to the Brexit Party? Haven't heard from them for weeks?MarqueeMark said:0 -
Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.0 -
As there is a tape Boris can't deny anything.The_Taxman said:
I suspect he was engaged in embarrasing behaviour if it was made public! To be honest if he was he should admit it and then everyone would move on. His refusal to comment on it just leads to more bad publicity and you cannot be opaque in high office.GIN1138 said:
He had a row with his partner?Ishmael_Z said:
It is the fact that, if he has to act like this, he lacks the self control to suppress the urge to do so at such a critical juncture. Can you imagine any actual leader, past or present, of a major party in this country behaving like this? If so, who?GIN1138 said:
Indeed.blueblue said:What a ridiculous overreaction by the media to this non-event - it's so over the top that Tory members are likely to start feeling more sympathy with Boris, not less.
From the reaction anyone would think Boris has been carted off in a police van on Thursday night...
If he says even one factoid that is contradicted by the tape the press will be all over him like hungry wolves. As a result he says nothing at all.
Which, actually, if this was an actual serious attempt at knifing Boris the existence of the tape would have been kept secret.0 -
"My friends, as I have discovered myself, there are no disasters, only opportunities. And, indeed, opportunities for fresh disasters."TheScreamingEagles said:
Believe in Brexit, believe in Boris. BE LEAVE.Sunil_Prasannan said:I think Boris will seriously fuck up Brexit and be forced from office before the end of the year.
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You’re showing worrying signs of fascism there JamesPulpstar said:I think a few things are clear by implication
i) Boris hasn't hit Carrie. If it emerges he has then his career will be over pdq - I think if he really was a wife beater it'd have emerged by now.
ii) Boris doesn't trust Carrie with his laptop for whatever (Could be genuine Natsec?) reason. Probably flirtatious emails to other women would be my guess though; and in character for Boris.
iii) Carrie probably had had a few too many, sounds like she was doing the screaming,shouting, plate and glass throwing etc... - no wonder Boris didn't want to elaborate, throwing your other half under the bus in a barney taped up by your neighbours would have become the story with no good way out.0 -
Because Lynton Crosby told him to say nothing? Because Boris knows the Guardian has a recording that his story will be tested against, but can't be sure what is on it? Because today's headlines are tomorrow's fish and chip wrappers?Pulpstar said:0 -
Seems about right.Pulpstar said:I think a few things are clear by implication
i) Boris hasn't hit Carrie. If it emerges he has then his career will be over pdq - I think if he really was a wife beater it'd have emerged by now.
ii) Boris doesn't trust Carrie with his laptop for whatever (Could be genuine Natsec?) reason. Probably flirtatious emails to other women would be my guess though; and in character for Boris.
iii) Carrie probably had had a few too many, sounds like she was doing the screaming,shouting, plate and glass throwing etc... - no wonder Boris didn't want to elaborate, throwing your other half under the bus in a barney taped up by your neighbours would have become the story with no good way out.0 -
Very interesting! Will they count tomorrow?dixiedean said:OT. A vital election tomorrow with profound implications for democracy in Turkey. The re-run of the Istanbul mayoralty. Polls suggest the opposition CHP candidate stretching his lead to 8%.
How Erdogan reacts to this will be crucial. Possibly stormy times ahead if he attempts to rig it / ignore it.0 -
Really?Sean_F said:
I could easily imagine any of Melbourne, Palmerston, Asquith, Lloyd George, acting in a similar manner.Ishmael_Z said:
It is the fact that, if he has to act like this, he lacks the self control to suppress the urge to do so at such a critical juncture. Can you imagine any actual leader, past or present, of a major party in this country behaving like this? If so, who?GIN1138 said:
Indeed.blueblue said:What a ridiculous overreaction by the media to this non-event - it's so over the top that Tory members are likely to start feeling more sympathy with Boris, not less.
From the reaction anyone would think Boris has been carted off in a police van on Thursday night...
And actually you only make my point the stronger, because if they did, they did it in such a way that nobody ever found out about it.0 -
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.0 -
Dunno. But that sure as ain't a working Tory majority.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:1 -
Not even mess up, I find it quite plausible that Boris would backtrack on much of what he's said about the timetable and negotiations for leaving the EU. I think Boris is a Brexiteer almost entirely due to seeing it as a route to the top job, rather than it being a long held ideological stance.rottenborough said:If, a big if, Boris becomes PM. It is going to be hilarious watching the ERG turn against him when he messes up.
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To be honest this is all displacement activity.Pulpstar said:I think a few things are clear by implication
i) Boris hasn't hit Carrie. If it emerges he has then his career will be over pdq - I think if he really was a wife beater it'd have emerged by now.
ii) Boris doesn't trust Carrie with his laptop for whatever (Could be genuine Natsec?) reason. Probably flirtatious emails to other women would be my guess though; and in character for Boris.
iii) Carrie probably had had a few too many, sounds like she was doing the screaming,shouting, plate and glass throwing etc... - no wonder Boris didn't want to elaborate, throwing your other half under the bus in a barney taped up by your neighbours would have become the story with no good way out.
What matters is his flagship Brexit policy is pure unicorn flavoured lies.0 -
Good grief what a teaser! Sleepless night ahead while I wait to find out which way you hope think it's going to go.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
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If he was drinking wine on his own he might have a hangover. It maybe he is a serious boozer behind closed doors. It could also be the fact he has been caught out as not really having an agenda he wants to implement, even his Brexit plan is not nailed down. Politic abores a vaccum and Boris has little to say so scrutiny turns to critism.rottenborough said:
Am I alone in feeling that somehow Boris isn't firing on all cylinders? Not only isn't on top of some really basic questions, but there is a kind of malaise about him.The_Taxman said:
I thought Boris was supposed to be intellegent? He sounds like a lazy individual who is not a master of his brief. Given he campaigned to Leave with the ramifications for the economy and society. It is poor behaviour to be so badly briefed on his flagship policy.TheScreamingEagles said:Boris isn't very good at detail, not to worry, it's not about anything major
https://twitter.com/DLidington/status/1142522392633368576
Does he really want this?0 -
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
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Thankfully the pizza portion of the test has been dropped.TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.0 -
Indeed and that from a PBer with a Jeremy Hunt for PM 100/1 betting slip stuffed down his string vest and Y front combinations.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
Remarkable.0 -
HYUFD only [bullshits] comments on polls when they agree with his meme.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
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Margin of error...marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%0 -
Hoping that Carrie doesn't have a cat that she wants the neighbours to feed whilst she is away this summer...0
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HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
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Nope, Parliament would be truly hung, drawn and quartered according to Electoral Calculus:dixiedean said:
Dunno. But that sure as ain't a working Tory majority.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Lab 258
Con 195
Brx 73
LD 62
SNP 40
PC 3
Green 1
NI 18
Remainer coalition.0 -
That cat is hoping Boris isn't a pound shop Jeremy Thorpe.rottenborough said:Hoping that Carrie doesn't have a cat that she wants the neighbours to feed whilst she is away this summer...
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I don't even mention my tips on Hunt at 100/1 and 66/1JackW said:
Indeed and that from a PBer with a Jeremy Hunt for PM 100/1 betting slip stuffed down his string vest and Y front combinations.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
Remarkable.0 -
They will do as there are another 15 hustings like todays which Hunt clearly wonViceroy_of_Orange said:
Delusional, almost everyone is assuming Boris is going to win. I doubt most people could recall one interesting thing Jeremy Hunt has ever said, let alone what his Cabinet position is.TheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.0 -
People were more tolerant of wayward behaviour among politicians in the past.Ishmael_Z said:
Really?Sean_F said:
I could easily imagine any of Melbourne, Palmerston, Asquith, Lloyd George, acting in a similar manner.Ishmael_Z said:
It is the fact that, if he has to act like this, he lacks the self control to suppress the urge to do so at such a critical juncture. Can you imagine any actual leader, past or present, of a major party in this country behaving like this? If so, who?GIN1138 said:
Indeed.blueblue said:What a ridiculous overreaction by the media to this non-event - it's so over the top that Tory members are likely to start feeling more sympathy with Boris, not less.
From the reaction anyone would think Boris has been carted off in a police van on Thursday night...
And actually you only make my point the stronger, because if they did, they did it in such a way that nobody ever found out about it.
Melbourne flagellated young servant girls, Palmerston was a serial lecher, Asquith was a drunk, and Lloyd George any other serial lecher.0 -
Of course he is. Both he and Hunt are vacuous opportunists who believe only in their own personal advancement. Belief and principle are unknown to them.glw said:
Not even mess up, I find it quite plausible that Boris would backtrack on much of what he's said about the timetable and negotiations for leaving the EU. I think Boris is a Brexiteer almost entirely due to seeing it as a route to the top job, rather than it being a long held ideological stance.rottenborough said:If, a big if, Boris becomes PM. It is going to be hilarious watching the ERG turn against him when he messes up.
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Boris is being advised by Lynton Crosby who invariably advises those leading in the polls to say nothing -- same with Theresa May in 2017 and Cameron before her. Boris in any case hates being interviewed, as Londoners (or at least London journalists and assembly members) will remember from his time as Mayor.kle4 said:
Well, he did get cold feet last time just because of Gove of all people. But he's worked toward this for bloody ages, I am sure he wants is so very badly. That might be why he is not firing on all cylinders, he knows he is so close now and is slightly wary of cocking up. But he has so much support behind him and top advisers, he may just be waiting for the right moment.rottenborough said:
Am I alone in feeling that somehow Boris isn't firing on all cylinders? Not only isn't on top of some really basic questions, but there is a kind of malaise about him.The_Taxman said:
I thought Boris was supposed to be intellegent? He sounds like a lazy individual who is not a master of his brief. Given he campaigned to Leave with the ramifications for the economy and society. It is poor behaviour to be so badly briefed on his flagship policy.TheScreamingEagles said:Boris isn't very good at detail, not to worry, it's not about anything major
https://twitter.com/DLidington/status/1142522392633368576
Does he really want this?0 -
But i thought Johnson was going to get 37% of the vote and 395 seats? Wonder what other "introductory" questions the Telegraph put into their "Boris Launch" poll a few weeks ago?marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%0 -
That was yesterdaysurbiton19 said:
HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21% 0 -
Yep, looks that way. His first briefing from the Cabinet Sec will be one to be a fly on the wall for.glw said:
Not even mess up, I find it quite plausible that Boris would backtrack on much of what he's said about the timetable and negotiations for leaving the EU. I think Boris is a Brexiteer almost entirely due to seeing it as a route to the top job, rather than it being a long held ideological stance.rottenborough said:If, a big if, Boris becomes PM. It is going to be hilarious watching the ERG turn against him when he messes up.
"Nothing you have said about Brexit in the leadership contest is deliverable or indeed true, Prime Minister" etc etc
Not that he will get that far.0 -
surbiton19 said:
HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
The Tories might as well stick with MayDay on those numbers.RobD said:
Margin of error...marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
Or perhaps Sir Graham Brady’s time has come?0 -
Par for the course these days. We had a Brexit Secretary who did not know Dover was on the way to France, and a Northern Ireland Secretary who was surprised to learn that nationalists and loyalists vote for different parties. And then there is Boris.glw said:
He's either dishonest or he's ignorant, either way it's worrying that someone who was in the cabinet, was Foreign Secretary, and wants to be PM should get the basics of leaving the EU so wrong.TheScreamingEagles said:Boris isn't very good at detail, not to worry, it's not about anything major
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Did you mention your legendary, unparalleled modesty?TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't even mention my tips on Hunt at 100/1 and 66/1JackW said:
Indeed and that from a PBer with a Jeremy Hunt for PM 100/1 betting slip stuffed down his string vest and Y front combinations.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
Remarkable.0 -
All before mass media and 24 hour newsSean_F said:
People were more tolerant of wayward behaviour among politicians in the past.Ishmael_Z said:
Really?Sean_F said:
I could easily imagine any of Melbourne, Palmerston, Asquith, Lloyd George, acting in a similar manner.Ishmael_Z said:
It is the fact that, if he has to act like this, he lacks the self control to suppress the urge to do so at such a critical juncture. Can you imagine any actual leader, past or present, of a major party in this country behaving like this? If so, who?GIN1138 said:
Indeed.blueblue said:What a ridiculous overreaction by the media to this non-event - it's so over the top that Tory members are likely to start feeling more sympathy with Boris, not less.
From the reaction anyone would think Boris has been carted off in a police van on Thursday night...
And actually you only make my point the stronger, because if they did, they did it in such a way that nobody ever found out about it.
Melbourne flagellated young servant girls, Palmerston was a serial lecher, Asquith was a drunk, and Lloyd George any other serial lecher.0 -
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Monroe
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"
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They usually do. The election results show being pulled off TV at 9pm last time was the signal AKP had lost.Gallowgate said:
Very interesting! Will they count tomorrow?dixiedean said:OT. A vital election tomorrow with profound implications for democracy in Turkey. The re-run of the Istanbul mayoralty. Polls suggest the opposition CHP candidate stretching his lead to 8%.
How Erdogan reacts to this will be crucial. Possibly stormy times ahead if he attempts to rig it / ignore it.
Interestingly the opposition candidate has been in place as Mayor for the past 3 months. So, he has the advantage of recent incumbency. And of turning up to meet with ordinary voters too.0 -
I realise... I always get them the wrong way round!DecrepitJohnL said:
Ivanka is the First Daughter. Ivana is Ivanka's mother, and Donald's ex-wife (or one of them).Charles said:0 -
Maybe.RobD said:
Did you mention your legendary, unparalleled modesty?TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't even mention my tips on Hunt at 100/1 and 66/1JackW said:
Indeed and that from a PBer with a Jeremy Hunt for PM 100/1 betting slip stuffed down his string vest and Y front combinations.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
Remarkable.0 -
Boris story unraveling already. Actually feel sorry for Carrie, almost unbelievably.0
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Boris Johnson’s girlfriend has said they have been stitched up by left wing neighbours, so what has Boris actually done wrong ? This is just plain sillyBenpointer said:
That was yesterdaysurbiton19 said:
HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%0 -
Mutually exclusive?glw said:
He's either dishonest or he's ignorant, either way it's worrying that someone who was in the cabinet, was Foreign Secretary, and wants to be PM should get the basics of leaving the EU so wrong.TheScreamingEagles said:Boris isn't very good at detail, not to worry, it's not about anything major
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Your reticence, demur and unassuming behaviour has always been one of your great strengths matched only by your having the fashion sense of a combination of Denis Skinner and Ann Widdecombe.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't even mention my tips on Hunt at 100/1 and 66/1JackW said:
Indeed and that from a PBer with a Jeremy Hunt for PM 100/1 betting slip stuffed down his string vest and Y front combinations.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
Remarkable.0 -
Hunt has won.
Then after the next GE Layla becomes PM once she has sorted my computer cable out 👿
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Argh - merely being set in a particular time or mentioning an event does not make a film of a particular genre. Is Jack Reacher 2 basically the same as Halloween and Boo 2: A Madea Halloween, because it too takes place on Halloween?Sunil_Prasannan said:
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Williams
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"
Is it a Christmas movie is not the same question as 'Is it set at Christmas?' Is Iron Man 3 a Christmas Movie?
If 5 minutes of find and replace with Microsoft Word could eliminate Christmas and not affect the plot in the slightest, it ain't a 'Christmas movie'. Christmas is the setting, not the theme, and any setting would have worked.
But TSE is just trolling us. Good night.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
That cat is hoping Boris isn't a pound shop Jeremy Thorpe.rottenborough said:Hoping that Carrie doesn't have a cat that she wants the neighbours to feed whilst she is away this summer...
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Fashion critics have described his style as “unique”.JackW said:
Your reticence, demur and unassuming behaviour has always been one of your great strengths matched only by your having the fashion sense of a combination of Denis Skinner and Ann Widdecombe.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't even mention my tips on Hunt at 100/1 and 66/1JackW said:
Indeed and that from a PBer with a Jeremy Hunt for PM 100/1 betting slip stuffed down his string vest and Y front combinations.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
Remarkable. 0 -
Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime0 -
And it was shot on location on SANTA Monica Boulevard. If that's not conclusive what is?Sunil_Prasannan said:
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Monroe
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"0 -
Isn’t the theme family reunions? That’s very Christmassy.kle4 said:
Argh - merely being set in a particular time or mentioning an event does not make a film of a particular genre. Is Jack Reacher 2 basically the same as Halloween and Boo 2: A Madea Halloween, because it too takes place on Halloween?Sunil_Prasannan said:
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Williams
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"
Is it a Christmas movie is not the same question as 'Is it set at Christmas?' Is Iron Man 3 a Christmas Movie?
If 5 minutes of find and replace with Microsoft Word could eliminate Christmas and not affect the plot in the slightest, it ain't a 'Christmas movie'. Christmas is the setting, not the theme, and any setting would have worked.
But TSE is just trolling us. Good night.0 -
The short PM, sure, but as for the other thing, you really think something so serious he will pull out will happen? Come on.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime0 -
It's good to know that our potential Prime Minister is not a wife [ partner ] beater !Pulpstar said:I think a few things are clear by implication
i) Boris hasn't hit Carrie. If it emerges he has then his career will be over pdq - I think if he really was a wife beater it'd have emerged by now.
ii) Boris doesn't trust Carrie with his laptop for whatever (Could be genuine Natsec?) reason. Probably flirtatious emails to other women would be my guess though; and in character for Boris.
iii) Carrie probably had had a few too many, sounds like she was doing the screaming,shouting, plate and glass throwing etc... - no wonder Boris didn't want to elaborate, throwing your other half under the bus in a barney taped up by your neighbours would have become the story with no good way out.
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Are there any leavers on here who think the above can be delivered (without EU agreement)?rottenborough said:
Another adult in the room speaks.Scott_P said:
There is going to be hell to pay when the membership find out they are buying pure snake oil.
If you dont think they can be delivered, do you approve of the lying to less informed voters to keep them onside?0 -
It can be, but it's tissue paper thin and hardly inherent to the film. Thanksgiving would work just as well, possibly even more so, though the imagery and soundtrack would not be as easy.RobD said:
Isn’t the theme family reunions? That’s very Christmassy.kle4 said:
Argh - merely being set in a particular time or mentioning an event does not make a film of a particular genre. Is Jack Reacher 2 basically the same as Halloween and Boo 2: A Madea Halloween, because it too takes place on Halloween?Sunil_Prasannan said:
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Williams
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"
Is it a Christmas movie is not the same question as 'Is it set at Christmas?' Is Iron Man 3 a Christmas Movie?
If 5 minutes of find and replace with Microsoft Word could eliminate Christmas and not affect the plot in the slightest, it ain't a 'Christmas movie'. Christmas is the setting, not the theme, and any setting would have worked.
But TSE is just trolling us. Good night.0 -
Paper thin? Name one bigger theme in the movie.kle4 said:
It can be, but it's tissue paper thin and hardly inherent to the film. Thanksgiving would work just as well, possibly even more so, though the imagery and soundtrack would not be as easy.RobD said:
Isn’t the theme family reunions? That’s very Christmassy.kle4 said:
Argh - merely being set in a particular time or mentioning an event does not make a film of a particular genre. Is Jack Reacher 2 basically the same as Halloween and Boo 2: A Madea Halloween, because it too takes place on Halloween?Sunil_Prasannan said:
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Williams
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"
Is it a Christmas movie is not the same question as 'Is it set at Christmas?' Is Iron Man 3 a Christmas Movie?
If 5 minutes of find and replace with Microsoft Word could eliminate Christmas and not affect the plot in the slightest, it ain't a 'Christmas movie'. Christmas is the setting, not the theme, and any setting would have worked.
But TSE is just trolling us. Good night.
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There's more snow in Empire Strikes Back than Die Hard.
Die Hard was also released in July, definitely not at Christmas.0 -
"Planes, Trains and Automobiles" is most definitely a Thanksgiving movie. It's, um, set during Thanksgiving!kle4 said:
It can be, but it's tissue paper thin and hardly inherent to the film. Thanksgiving would work just as well, possibly even more so, though the imagery and soundtrack would not be as easy.RobD said:
Isn’t the theme family reunions? That’s very Christmassy.kle4 said:
Argh - merely being set in a particular time or mentioning an event does not make a film of a particular genre. Is Jack Reacher 2 basically the same as Halloween and Boo 2: A Madea Halloween, because it too takes place on Halloween?Sunil_Prasannan said:
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Williams
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"
Is it a Christmas movie is not the same question as 'Is it set at Christmas?' Is Iron Man 3 a Christmas Movie?
If 5 minutes of find and replace with Microsoft Word could eliminate Christmas and not affect the plot in the slightest, it ain't a 'Christmas movie'. Christmas is the setting, not the theme, and any setting would have worked.
But TSE is just trolling us. Good night.0 -
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I sincerely hope you are right.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime
FWIW I think Brexit will be over if Bojo loses.0 -
I am not suggesting something serious will come out, I just think he could crash in the polls over the next 15, yes 15, televised hustings and lose his mojo completelykle4 said:
The short PM, sure, but as for the other thing, you really think something so serious he will pull out will happen? Come on.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime0 -
There is something wrong. That's my hunch.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime0 -
The early ones are the best.TheScreamingEagles said:There's more snow in Empire Strikes Back than Die Hard.
Die Hard was also released in July, definitely not at Christmas.0 -
The 3 rules of a Christmas movie:kle4 said:
Argh - merely being set in a particular time or mentioning an event does not make a film of a particular genre. Is Jack Reacher 2 basically the same as Halloween and Boo 2: A Madea Halloween, because it too takes place on Halloween?Sunil_Prasannan said:
1) I'm not too familiar with Radiohead (more a Depeche Mode fan!)TheScreamingEagles said:
We'll be adding a quality filter before you can post on PB.Benpointer said:Sean_F said:GIN1138 said:
Why does this Dunt fella always have "fucking" this and "fucking" that every time he tweets?rottenborough said:
What's the Twitter equivalent of washing your mouth out with carbolic soup?
Some people think it's edgy and satirical to say "fuck."
Yep, even mild-mannered Sunil is at it now (@10:31).
We'll be having to prove our ages to sign up to PB soon.
You have to express your views on Radiohead, AV, and why Die Hard isn't a Christmas film, the last one is easy, there are squillions of reasons why it isn't a Christmas film.
2) Would that be the same AV wot was rejected by the UK voters by 68% to 32% in 2011?
3) Die Hard most certainly a Christmas film
* It's set during Christmas, FFS!
* Bruce Willis's barefoot allegory to Jesus the Weary Traveller
* Bruce Willis is Santa: He writes "Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a machine gun!" AND he whistles the tune to "Jingle Bells"!
* It features "Christmas in Hollis" by Run-DMC
* It features "Let it Snow" by Vaughan Williams
* The Limo Driver quips at the end: "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's!"
Is it a Christmas movie is not the same question as 'Is it set at Christmas?' Is Iron Man 3 a Christmas Movie?
If 5 minutes of find and replace with Microsoft Word could eliminate Christmas and not affect the plot in the slightest, it ain't a 'Christmas movie'. Christmas is the setting, not the theme, and any setting would have worked.
But TSE is just trolling us. Good night.
1. The action has to take place at Christmas.
2. Christmas has to be used as a plot device.
3. Christmas has to be referenced throughout the screenplay.
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Probablyanothernick said:
I sincerely hope you are right.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime
FWIW I think Brexit will be over if Bojo loses.0 -
And who would dispute that statement?RobD said:
Fashion critics have described his style as “unique”.JackW said:
Your reticence, demur and unassuming behaviour has always been one of your great strengths matched only by your having the fashion sense of a combination of Denis Skinner and Ann Widdecombe.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don't even mention my tips on Hunt at 100/1 and 66/1JackW said:
Indeed and that from a PBer with a Jeremy Hunt for PM 100/1 betting slip stuffed down his string vest and Y front combinations.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will be delighted by the morning thread, my fair and impartial analysis on the Tory leadership contest.Benpointer said:
Always good to get your unbiased disinterested views TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Lots of Jeremy Hunt on the telly and the Tories surge past Farage's mob.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Ergo - Hunt is electoral viagra for the Tories, the more he's on telly as PM then the Tories will poll 50% plus soon.
Remarkable.
And on that point of rare unity on PB I must away to my bed chamber for a few hours of rest and calm before the shock and awe of TSE's morning thread overwhelms us all.
Good Night PBers .... "Mrs JackW , careful of that glass of wine near the sofa ..... Oh fu*k .....
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Brexit won't be over, but the Tory Party will be.anothernick said:
I sincerely hope you are right.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime
FWIW I think Brexit will be over if Bojo loses.0 -
Boris back out to 1.2, his odds having come in again this afternoon.0
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That really should be a plan._Anazina_ said:surbiton19 said:
HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
The Tories might as well stick with MayDay on those numbers.RobD said:
Margin of error...marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
Or perhaps Sir Graham Brady’s time has come?
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A slight additional net swing from Tory to LibDem with Boris. Boris does better against the BXP, but that’s mostly a question of stemming Tory losses in the first place.alex. said:
But i thought Johnson was going to get 37% of the vote and 395 seats? Wonder what other "introductory" questions the Telegraph put into their "Boris Launch" poll a few weeks ago?marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%0 -
The 3 rules of a Christmas movie:TheScreamingEagles said:There's more snow in Empire Strikes Back than Die Hard.
Die Hard was also released in July, definitely not at Christmas.
1. The action has to take place at Christmas.
2. Christmas has to be used as a plot device.
3. Christmas has to be referenced throughout the screenplay.
And who gives a fuck about release date?
Schindler's List was released in 1993, but is clearly a World War 2 movie.
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Boris looked fine to me and unlike Hunt was clear that No Deal must be on the table and indeed may be the only way to get a DealBig_G_NorthWales said:
I am not suggesting something serious will come out, I just think he could crash in the polls over the next 15, yes 15, televised hustings and lose his mojo completelykle4 said:
The short PM, sure, but as for the other thing, you really think something so serious he will pull out will happen? Come on.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime0 -
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Is Pearson working a 24 hour day bashing out this Boris bilge?
"Bash Boris Remainer Attack Team (BRAT)"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/22/boris-johnson-has-faults-one-can-deliver-brexit/0 -
You may think so but others have different views.Viceroy_of_Orange said:
Brexit won't be over, but the Tory Party will be.anothernick said:
I sincerely hope you are right.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime
FWIW I think Brexit will be over if Bojo loses.0 -
What 'moral good person' hangs around with terrorists?Recidivist said:0 -
Good interview by Douglas Carswell with Andrew Doyle. Dougie looks a lot better now he’s an ex MP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCMCrv8YGt80 -
The Queen.HYUFD said:
What 'moral good person' hangs around with terrorists?Recidivist said:
She's met the IRA's former Chief of Staff.0 -
Of course he looks fine to you. You are besotted with him and even in denial over tonights polling that shows he is far from winning 395 seats, even a majorityHYUFD said:
Boris looked fine to me and unlike Hunt was clear that No Deal must be on the table and indeed may be the only way to get a DealBig_G_NorthWales said:
I am not suggesting something serious will come out, I just think he could crash in the polls over the next 15, yes 15, televised hustings and lose his mojo completelykle4 said:
The short PM, sure, but as for the other thing, you really think something so serious he will pull out will happen? Come on.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime0 -
So Boris still increases the Tory voteshare by 2% to be tied with Labour while Hunt cuts the Tories voteshare by 1% and is 3% behind Labour.surbiton19 said:
HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
That on a supposedly bad poll for Boris!0 -
The hypothetical with Boris in charge stems TBP. But doesn't change the fundamentals.Benpointer said:
Nope, Parliament would be truly hung, drawn and quartered according to Electoral Calculus:dixiedean said:
Dunno. But that sure as ain't a working Tory majority.Benpointer said:
Where's HYUFD to tell us what this definitively means about the next GE?Scott_P said:
Lab 258
Con 195
Brx 73
LD 62
SNP 40
PC 3
Green 1
NI 18
Remainer coalition.
Lab 267
Con 248
LD. 66
SNP. 38
TBP. 9
Green. 1
PC. 3
NI. 18
FWIW. Doesn't look like an early election would be very appealing for BJ.
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Where is your 395 seatsHYUFD said:
So Boris still increases the Tory voteshare by 2% to be tied with Labour while Hunt cuts the Tories voteshare by 1% and is 3% behind Labour.surbiton19 said:
HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
That on a supposedly bad poll for Boris!0 -
isam said:
Good interview by Douglas Carswell with Andrew Doyle. Dougie looks a lot better now he’s an ex MP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCMCrv8YGt8
Reminds me of a novel I read last year in which a character is doing a doctorate on the increasing fascism of cake.0 -
And Boris is a disgusting immoral cad. This will be damaging. Ed M never got over the fratricide factor and Boris' reputation as mysoginistic womaniser will prove similarly difficult to shift.Recidivist said:0 -
So much like Rory Stewart Hunt is popular with Labour and LD voters who will never vote Tory while Boris is still the strong favourite of 2017 Tories to be PM who actually might vote ToryTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Really don't like all this f*cling swearing on here I am moving to Guido instead goodbye2
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In Bed With Boris. Not a great place to be by all accountsHYUFD said:
Boris looked fine to me and unlike Hunt was clear that No Deal must be on the table and indeed may be the only way to get a DealBig_G_NorthWales said:
I am not suggesting something serious will come out, I just think he could crash in the polls over the next 15, yes 15, televised hustings and lose his mojo completelykle4 said:
The short PM, sure, but as for the other thing, you really think something so serious he will pull out will happen? Come on.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris has looked deflated for a while. As I said this morning he shows signs that he knows he is near being PM but at the same time knows he cannot fulfil his unicorn promises and could be the shortest time served PM in history
Indeed after the last 24 hours I am not wholly convinced he will still be in the race by the 22nd July, having self combusted in the meantime0 -
How did David Cameron first take the Tories into government and then win the Tories a majority?HYUFD said:
So much like Rory Stewart Hunt is popular with Labour and LD voters who will never vote Tory while Boris is still the strong favourite of 2017 Tories to be PM who actually might vote ToryTheScreamingEagles said:
He won over voters who didn't vote Tory previously.0 -
The change between the two polls was larger for Conservative voters, though. Perhaps the lead for Johnson will not last?HYUFD said:
So much like Rory Stewart Hunt is popular with Labour and LD voters who will never vote Tory while Boris is still the strong favourite of 2017 Tories to be PM who actually might vote ToryTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Luton Town!Ave_it said:Really don't like all this f*cling swearing on here I am moving to Guido instead goodbye
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Snowflake....!Ave_it said:Really don't like all this f*cling swearing on here I am moving to Guido instead goodbye
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He hides it wellRecidivist said:0 -
This might not be so bad given the other options. Lab-Lib-SNP government which might not be entirely stable, Con still overwhelmingly dominant as opposition, Boris could probably stay on as leader.dixiedean said:
The hypothetical with Boris in charge stems TBP. But doesn't change the fundamentals.
Lab 267
Con 248
LD. 66
SNP. 38
TBP. 9
Green. 1
PC. 3
NI. 18
FWIW. Doesn't look like an early election would be very appealing for BJ.
He'd then personally in charge of the Leave side in the re-referendum. If Leave wins the Labour side still have to deal with the entire shit sandwich and the Tories can get back in next time, with Brexit done and Labour's fault. If Remain wins Boris is established as the leader of the betrayed and defeated leaver tribe, who will be riled up to vote, but the voters won't be up for a *third* EU referendum, so he can win the next election and go back to actually governing.0 -
Here's an oldie but goodie:rottenborough said:Is Pearson working a 24 hour day bashing out this Boris bilge?
"Bash Boris Remainer Attack Team (BRAT)"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/22/boris-johnson-has-faults-one-can-deliver-brexit/
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You are beginning to whistle in the wind. Even the 2017 voters have lost him 10% in just two days.HYUFD said:
So much like Rory Stewart Hunt is popular with Labour and LD voters who will never vote Tory while Boris is still the strong favourite of 2017 Tories to be PM who actually might vote ToryTheScreamingEagles said:
Another 15 hustings like today could have very serious consequences for his leadership0 -
The Con-Lib Dem swing is not great though is it?HYUFD said:
So Boris still increases the Tory voteshare by 2% to be tied with Labour while Hunt cuts the Tories voteshare by 1% and is 3% behind Labour.surbiton19 said:
HYUFD will not like this. Only a 2% premium for Boris. I thought 37% would vote Tory if HE was PM.marke09 said:
Survation.
@Survation
5m5 minutes ago
We also included hypothetical "if Boris, if Hunt" Conservative leader scenarios.
Current, IF Boris, IF Hunt
CON 24%, 26%, 23%
LAB 26%, 26%, 26%
LD 18%, 21%, 18%
BREX 20%, 16%, 21%
That on a supposedly bad poll for Boris!0 -
Wales was united with England for centuries before Scotland joined the Union and voted Leave by exactly the same margin as the UK as a whole.YBarddCwsc said:
A interesting question for pollsters is, if Scotland has left, would you support Wales becoming independent or would you wish to stay in the Union with England?Pulpstar said:UK, YouGov poll:
Wales independence referendum
Pro independence: 41% (+8)
Against independence: 59% (-8)
This excludes 29% (+2) undecided.
Fieldwork: 10-15 May 2019
Sample size: 1,133
Once Scotland has gone, then Wales will go within the next decade.
Note even on that Yougov poll Welsh voters reject independence by a big 18% margin0 -
😊TheScreamingEagles said:
Luton Town!Ave_it said:Really don't like all this f*cling swearing on here I am moving to Guido instead goodbye
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