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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,578
    edited June 2019
    _Anazina_ said:

    Until Boris reveals a daily crystal meth habit he stands no chance.

    "I think I was once given cocaine but I sneezed so it didn't go up my nose. In fact, it may have been icing sugar."
    - Boris in The Evening Standard, 17/10/2005
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The Wikipedia page for the Tory leadership contest has Javid on 17 backers but the actual number on the list is 15 so the total should be 16 with Javid himself not 17. It's been like that for about 48 hours. If anyone has editing rights for that page perhaps they could correct it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392

    dixiedean said:

    It might not appeal to you but I think some Tory members would welcome such a move. National Citizen Service should not be confused with National Service in the Armed Forces. Its all about the discipline and social responsibility of such a scheme. I could see it as being a positive scheme and something that helps bring people together from all levels in society.
    At least it counts as "some kind of idea not related to Brexit". Exactly what Tory MPs don't want to hear.
    But you have to give Rory credit. He's not going down by pandering to their illusions.
    Initially I was not a fan but I will give him something, he is the most dynamic of the field so far and he does not have the Brexit media artificially assisting his leadership profile. Rory is attracting attention on the merits of his ideas not the issues of Brexit.
    I am hoping he makes it at least into a round or two after the initial cull.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979

    _Anazina_ said:

    Until Boris reveals a daily crystal meth habit he stands no chance.

    "I think I was once given cocaine but I sneezed so it didn't go up my nose. In fact, it may have been icing sugar."
    - Boris in The Evening Standard, 17/10/2005
    That might have been the icing on the cake!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,509
    viewcode said:

    GIN1138 said:

    TGOHF said:
    Bitchy.... Did Boris sleep with Max's daughter/wife/mother/all three/at the same time? :D
    No, but IIRC he did fire him when he discovered he was making shit up. Which in the old days was not allowed at the Telegraph.
    What a relief he kicked that habit...

  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited June 2019

    You can tell when a government is tired because they start moralising. The twilight period of Blair's premiership, and Brown's after that, were exactly the same. And although 'Back to Basics' was somewhat wilfully misinterpreted, Major's government also fell into this habit.

    It's not moralising, nor is it trying to stop teenage boys getting hold of porn if they really want to. It's attempting to stop young children accidentally coming across porn, including extreme porn. I don't know how effective it will be, but it doesn't seem an unreasonable aim.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    _Anazina_ said:

    Until Boris reveals a daily crystal meth habit he stands no chance.

    Who is the Cabinet's Mr White though?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,578
    AndyJS said:

    The Wikipedia page for the Tory leadership contest has Javid on 17 backers but the actual number on the list is 15 so the total should be 16 with Javid himself not 17. It's been like that for about 48 hours. If anyone has editing rights for that page perhaps they could correct it.

    It's already done :)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2019

    Leadsom and Hunt deadheat at 9.8

    Leadsom and her imaginary MP supporters. (In reality she has just 4).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,509
    _Anazina_ said:

    Until Boris reveals a daily crystal meth habit he stands no chance.

    But wouldn’t it be unsporting for him to reveal Hunt’s meth habit ?

  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    Surely Gove should apologise for not knifing Boris more effectively?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,637
    _Anazina_ said:

    Until Boris reveals a daily crystal meth habit he stands no chance.

    He would get locked in for sure.

    Might be worth buying him out because he would be good at money grabbing
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,853
    US/UK Frontrunners & Major party leaders now:

    Obama's B side, Trump, Comrade Corbyn, Boris Johnson...
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    The funniest thing about the Gove article is when he said he deeply regrets it.

    More like deeply regretted it coming out . He obviously enjoyed it . I think if it had been the odd spliff it would probably not be a big deal.

    At least Rory did the opium just to be polite to his guests which is oh so British !
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    AndyJS said:

    Leadsom and Hunt deadheat at 9.8

    Leadsom and her imaginary MP supporters. (In reality she has just 4).
    I think Leadsom would be a terrible PM, I cannot imagine why she thinks she could do the job as she is even more inadequate than the incumbent. Hopeless! I can only think that she and some of the others utilise the process to get another job under the next PM.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Surely Gove should apologise for not knifing Boris more effectively?

    Would Boris have been worse than May ?

    The Boris sirens want a coronation - Con Mps must resist.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,853
    Pulpstar said:

    US/UK Frontrunners & Major party leaders now:

    Obama's B side, Trump, Comrade Corbyn, Boris Johnson...
    Thatcher/Reagen were probably the biggest pair in my lifetime
    Blair/Clinton
    Cameron/Obama I guess.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    nico67 said:

    The funniest thing about the Gove article is when he said he deeply regrets it.

    More like deeply regretted it coming out . He obviously enjoyed it . I think if it had been the odd spliff it would probably not be a big deal.

    At least Rory did the opium just to be polite to his guests which is oh so British !

    Pols would be better to be honest. e.g. At the time I was young and I got carried away on a night out with friends, who did the same thing, I enjoyed it. But now looking back and knowing what I now know about the link between cocaine and street gangs, I would most certainly not do it now.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392

    AndyJS said:

    Leadsom and Hunt deadheat at 9.8

    Leadsom and her imaginary MP supporters. (In reality she has just 4).
    I think Leadsom would be a terrible PM, I cannot imagine why she thinks she could do the job as she is even more inadequate than the incumbent. Hopeless! I can only think that she and some of the others utilise the process to get another job under the next PM.
    As the bar to being a terrible PM has just been reset at at the level of worst in at least 100 years, why wouldn't you think I could do better?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,853
    TGOHF said:

    Surely Gove should apologise for not knifing Boris more effectively?

    Would Boris have been worse than May ?

    The Boris sirens want a coronation - Con Mps must resist.
    Boris should have a contest to the membership even if it against Hunt. He was Mayor ages ago, a contest would be good for him.
    Corbyn's had to get through two whilst he's been leader and they've made him a decent stump campaigner I think.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    edited June 2019
    Shady offering straight forecast, 1st and 2nd correct order:

    Boris-Gove 9/4
    Boris-Hunt 4/1
    Gove-Boris 12/1
    Gove-Hunt 16/1
    etc etc
    down to Stewart-Raab 100/1
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    nico67 said:

    The funniest thing about the Gove article is when he said he deeply regrets it.

    More like deeply regretted it coming out . He obviously enjoyed it . I think if it had been the odd spliff it would probably not be a big deal.

    At least Rory did the opium just to be polite to his guests which is oh so British !

    A toot of the old fruit is regrettable for any politician. But given the blandness of Gove it adds a new dimension. Gove might be a drug snorting psychopath but is that any worse than the incumbent PM? A change in direction is certainly required and maybe a change of style. A ruthless maniac with an assassins smile might get things done!
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Everyone deeply regrets doing coke the next morning - usually as it’s accompanied by a river of booze.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    TGOHF said:

    Would Boris have been worse than May ?

    Who knows? He was a pretty awful Foreign Sec, so probably.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Also I’d be amazed if Boris and Charlie aren’t well acquainted.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    The Land for the Many report has been spectacularly poorly timed (D-Day, by-election, May off), but it may turn out to be the defining document of the next Lab government. As Phil Collins pointed out in Times, income tax could be cut by several pence in the pound, and council tax set to zero for most, if some of these proposals on taxing the huge land owners went through.


    https://twitter.com/jon_trickett/status/1136959195100647424
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    TGOHF said:

    Also I’d be amazed if Boris and Charlie aren’t well acquainted.

    Oh cripes. That's just some dandruff officer. I mean look at my hair...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2019
    "Let me assure you, Boris Johnson will fail as PM
    Matthew Parris

    Tory MPs appear to have swallowed his character flaws but nothing exposes the unprepared like the demands of No 10"

    (£)

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/let-me-assure-you-boris-johnson-will-fail-as-pm-hl7b6tkx5
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,853

    The Land for the Many report has been spectacularly poorly timed (D-Day, by-election, May off), but it may turn out to be the defining document of the next Lab government. As Phil Collins pointed out in Times, income tax could be cut by several pence in the pound, and council tax set to zero for most, if some of these proposals on taxing the huge land owners went through.


    https://twitter.com/jon_trickett/status/1136959195100647424

    Biggest change since the inclosure acts :o ?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Pulpstar said:

    @Charles & @SandyRentool long lost twins.
    @isam & @TheScreamingEagles kindred spirits
    @GeoffM & @murali_s a shared vision

    Strangely, I have just made a near-identical comment to one from Charles...
    We may have used some of the same words in the process
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    AndyJS said:

    "Let me assure you, Boris Johnson will fail as PM
    Matthew Parris

    Tory MPs appear to have swallowed his character flaws but nothing exposes the unprepared like the demands of No 10"

    (£)

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/let-me-assure-you-boris-johnson-will-fail-as-pm-hl7b6tkx5

    I'm not sure he will actually become PM. He will win leadership, but that may not be enough. So we will never know.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,805
    TGOHF said:

    Also I’d be amazed if Boris and Charlie aren’t well acquainted.

    He admit it ages ago:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/apr/04/boris.london08
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,829



    AndyJS said:

    "Let me assure you, Boris Johnson will fail as PM
    Matthew Parris

    Tory MPs appear to have swallowed his character flaws but nothing exposes the unprepared like the demands of No 10"

    (£)

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/let-me-assure-you-boris-johnson-will-fail-as-pm-hl7b6tkx5

    I'm not sure he will actually become PM. He will win leadership, but that may not be enough. So we will never know.
    He will be PM. But because bluster and charisma only take you so far, and we're already years deep into crisis, he won't be for long enough to learn much.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    The Wikipedia page for the Tory leadership contest has Javid on 17 backers but the actual number on the list is 15 so the total should be 16 with Javid himself not 17. It's been like that for about 48 hours. If anyone has editing rights for that page perhaps they could correct it.

    It's already done :)
    Fantastic, thanks again.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,706
    edited June 2019

    The Land for the Many report has been spectacularly poorly timed (D-Day, by-election, May off), but it may turn out to be the defining document of the next Lab government. As Phil Collins pointed out in Times, income tax could be cut by several pence in the pound, and council tax set to zero for most, if some of these proposals on taxing the huge land owners went through.

    I'd like to like these kinds of proposals but I have a hard time taking this stuff seriously when I run into things like this:

    This same elite – aristocrats, corporations, oligarchs and city bankers – own most of the land in England.

    Why is "corporations" in there along with "aristocrats" and "oligarchs"? Land *should* be mostly owned by corporations: Farms are businesses. This is the kind of misdirection that flags that the whole premise is probably bullshit.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    _Anazina_ said:

    kle4 said:

    The Baker thing is no surprise. Boris seems to have inexplicable support from hardliners despite his woollyness on many issues, not least his own voting for the WA in a manner which was an admission of his own slowness. Given Boris is up against slippery Gove the traitorous brexiteer and the combination of Hunt and Javid, the blanditrons, and with Raab unlikely to progress, Boris is the best a Baker could get I think.

    If Boris gets the Spartans, add in many of Raab's, and consider that he has had plenty of loyalist backers already, he's closing in on 80+ pretty easily after only a round or two.

    As for the plan not to go to the members, it would be an interesting study - I've seen plenty of Tories apoplectic they did not go to the members last time (whether they were angry at the time I do not recall), and it would be most amusing to see if such anger dissipated into hypocritical acceptance because their saviour Boris got the nod this time.
    The Spartans? WTF? Is this the new name for the ERG? A rebrand?
    Back to their roots as Ditchers

    (“Die in the ditch”)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392

    The Land for the Many report has been spectacularly poorly timed (D-Day, by-election, May off), but it may turn out to be the defining document of the next Lab government. As Phil Collins pointed out in Times, income tax could be cut by several pence in the pound, and council tax set to zero for most, if some of these proposals on taxing the huge land owners went through.

    I'd like to like these kinds of proposals but I have a hard time taking this stuff seriously when I run into things like this:

    This same elite – aristocrats, corporations, oligarchs and city bankers – own most of the land in England.

    Why is "corporations" in there along with "aristocrats" and "oligarchs"? Land *should* be mostly owned by corporations: Farms are businesses. This is the kind of misdirection that flags that the whole premise is probably bullshit.
    I think it is lazy shorthand for multinational corporations. Doubt Monbiot is against family farmers.
  • brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315

    The Land for the Many report has been spectacularly poorly timed (D-Day, by-election, May off), but it may turn out to be the defining document of the next Lab government. As Phil Collins pointed out in Times, income tax could be cut by several pence in the pound, and council tax set to zero for most, if some of these proposals on taxing the huge land owners went through.


    https://twitter.com/jon_trickett/status/1136959195100647424

    Sadly it’s already been christened the garden tax by the media - why didn’t Labour do some research and demonstrate how it would work and most people would see their council taxes fall outside inner London?

    We simply cannot carry on with the obscene situation whereby oligarchs in £70 million flats in Belgravia are paying less in annual council tax - possibly as little as £1200 year with single person discount - than an elderly couple renting a house in Bolton.

    Thank god someone is finally proposing to reform the shockingly regressive council tax and move to a fairer system. Too many gutless governments have failed to tackle it because of what happened in 1990.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    hunt now 2nd fav
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    brendan16 said:

    The Land for the Many report has been spectacularly poorly timed (D-Day, by-election, May off), but it may turn out to be the defining document of the next Lab government. As Phil Collins pointed out in Times, income tax could be cut by several pence in the pound, and council tax set to zero for most, if some of these proposals on taxing the huge land owners went through.


    https://twitter.com/jon_trickett/status/1136959195100647424

    Sadly it’s already been christened the garden tax by the media - why didn’t Labour do some research and demonstrate how it would work and most people would see their council taxes fall outside inner London?

    We simply cannot carry on with the obscene situation whereby oligarchs in £70 million flats in Belgravia are paying less in annual council tax - possibly as little as £1200 year with single person discount - than an elderly couple renting a house in Bolton.

    Thank god someone is finally proposing to reform the shockingly regressive council tax and move to a fairer system. Too many gutless governments have failed to tackle it because of what happened in 1990.

    True. But it will take 2 terms it is so complex imho.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,706


    I think it is lazy shorthand for multinational corporations. Doubt Monbiot is against family farmers.

    Dunno, "multinational" is a left-green trigger word, I doubt they'd miss an opportunity for sinister foreign connotations like that.

    More likely they're trying to use statistics to make a point that isn't justified by the actual data, hence the misdirection.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392

    University of Southampton is forced to pay £2.5million to economist who claims he was discriminated against for being German and Christian because bosses failed to turn up to defend the case


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7117767/Uni-Southampton-forced-pay-2-5million-economist-claims-discriminated-against.html

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,853
    edited June 2019

    hunt now 2nd fav

    What ? Not Andrea Leadsom :?
    Gove's chances taken a blow today ?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2019
    Does this tweet mean Tobias Ellwood is supporting Dominic Raab?

    https://twitter.com/Tobias_Elliott_/status/1135852632340344832
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,308
    AndyJS said:

    Does this tweet mean Tobias Ellwood is supporting Dominic Raab?

    https://twitter.com/Tobias_Elliott_/status/1135852632340344832

    No, that account is a 16 year old, not the MP.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    Does this tweet mean Tobias Ellwood is supporting Dominic Raab?

    https://twitter.com/Tobias_Elliott_/status/1135852632340344832

    No, that account is a 16 year old, not the MP.
    Thanks, there are so many fake accounts around these days.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,392
    Night all.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,805
    He’s definitely sparkled the most. Rest appear rather lacklustre in comparison.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,314
    edited June 2019

    Surely Gove should apologise for not knifing Boris more effectively?

    Surely the whole reason behind Gove’s admission, is for a friendly (to Gove) journalist to ask Boris when was the last time he did cocaine? (While knowing the answer, and with evidence in hand).
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2019
    New Electoral Calculus figures:

    BRX 24.1%
    Lab 22.7%
    Con 18.7%
    LD 18.3%

    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

    BRX 249
    Lab 216
    Con 54
    LD 51
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    viewcode said:

    GIN1138 said:

    TGOHF said:
    Bitchy.... Did Boris sleep with Max's daughter/wife/mother/all three/at the same time? :D
    No, but IIRC he did fire him when he discovered he was making shit up. Which in the old days was not allowed at the Telegraph.
    I do not think Max Hastings did sack Boris, who was fired from The Times for lying and by Michael Howard for lying. We learned this week he cannot be sued for lying.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    The Land for the Many report has been spectacularly poorly timed (D-Day, by-election, May off), but it may turn out to be the defining document of the next Lab government. As Phil Collins pointed out in Times, income tax could be cut by several pence in the pound, and council tax set to zero for most, if some of these proposals on taxing the huge land owners went through.

    I'd like to like these kinds of proposals but I have a hard time taking this stuff seriously when I run into things like this:

    This same elite – aristocrats, corporations, oligarchs and city bankers – own most of the land in England.

    Why is "corporations" in there along with "aristocrats" and "oligarchs"? Land *should* be mostly owned by corporations: Farms are businesses. This is the kind of misdirection that flags that the whole premise is probably bullshit.
    According to https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/apr/17/who-owns-england-thousand-secret-landowners-author , only 18% of land is owned by corporations. Don't know what the breakdown of that 18% to farming and non-farming is, but it's not going to be all of it.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:

    Does this tweet mean Tobias Ellwood is supporting Dominic Raab?

    https://twitter.com/Tobias_Elliott_/status/1135852632340344832

    No, that account is a 16 year old, not the MP.
    Thanks, there are so many fake accounts around these days.
    In this case he applied the clever diversionary tactic of having a different surname.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,048
    edited June 2019
    *Deleted*
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    MaxPB said:

    It's our last night in Vilnius, I've got the company gold card, there are about 7 of us left here and I'm easily the most senior. :lol:

    The PB stands for Patrick Bateman.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,789

    viewcode said:

    GIN1138 said:

    TGOHF said:
    Bitchy.... Did Boris sleep with Max's daughter/wife/mother/all three/at the same time? :D
    No, but IIRC he did fire him when he discovered he was making shit up. Which in the old days was not allowed at the Telegraph.
    I do not think Max Hastings did sack Boris, who was fired from The Times for lying and by Michael Howard for lying. We learned this week he cannot be sued for lying.
    You might be right. My IIRC was not as C as I wanted... :(
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,706
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,706
    edited June 2019
    On the Leadsom manipulation, looking at Betfair there's like 1500 GBP sitting there trying to back her at odds that are obviously wrong, presumably just to make her look like she's in the running. There's also a nearly equivalent amount on the other side, offering to match the manipulator if they'll be just that little bit sillier.

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.125574963

    Why aren't the people with the stake uploaded to Betfair offering to take the manipulator's money taking the bird in the hand?
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,706
    viewcode said:
    Neither of those are universal, since they're both voluntary and not everybody is into it.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,706
    edited June 2019


    According to https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/apr/17/who-owns-england-thousand-secret-landowners-author , only 18% of land is owned by corporations. Don't know what the breakdown of that 18% to farming and non-farming is, but it's not going to be all of it.

    What they should be complaining about is that so much of the land *isn't* owned by corporations, who would be renting it out to all comers to get a useful return, which individual landowners may or may not be doing.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,878
    More importantly, here is Gwyneth Paltrow forgetting which movies she's been in...

    https://twitter.com/JarettSays/status/1137017592613236736
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,706
    What's the current headcount on Tory MPs with nothing left to lose?
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    AndyJS said:

    New Electoral Calculus figures:

    BRX 24.1%
    Lab 22.7%
    Con 18.7%
    LD 18.3%

    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

    BRX 249
    Lab 216
    Con 54
    LD 51

    So Baxter is predicting the dissolution of the Union before the next GE?

    Sweet.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,805

    AndyJS said:

    New Electoral Calculus figures:

    BRX 24.1%
    Lab 22.7%
    Con 18.7%
    LD 18.3%

    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

    BRX 249
    Lab 216
    Con 54
    LD 51

    So Baxter is predicting the dissolution of the Union before the next GE?

    Sweet.
    Unless the Commons is set to reduce in size by 80 seats, no.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    AndyJS said:

    "Let me assure you, Boris Johnson will fail as PM
    Matthew Parris

    Tory MPs appear to have swallowed his character flaws but nothing exposes the unprepared like the demands of No 10"

    (£)

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/let-me-assure-you-boris-johnson-will-fail-as-pm-hl7b6tkx5

    The trouble is, this was all said about Trump before he was elected. And when elected, he did indeed turn out to behave as had been feared....yet appears to be heading for re-election.

    (And London might have been better off if he had been a “do-nothing Mayor”, rather than p***ing so much money up the wall.)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,774
    edited June 2019
    For this thread,

    winter has come.

  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,396
    IanB2 said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Let me assure you, Boris Johnson will fail as PM
    Matthew Parris

    Tory MPs appear to have swallowed his character flaws but nothing exposes the unprepared like the demands of No 10"

    (£)

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/let-me-assure-you-boris-johnson-will-fail-as-pm-hl7b6tkx5

    The trouble is, this was all said about Trump before he was elected. And when elected, he did indeed turn out to behave as had been feared....yet appears to be heading for re-election.

    (And London might have been better off if he had been a “do-nothing Mayor”, rather than p***ing so much money up the wall.)
    IanB2 said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Let me assure you, Boris Johnson will fail as PM
    Matthew Parris

    Tory MPs appear to have swallowed his character flaws but nothing exposes the unprepared like the demands of No 10"

    (£)

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/let-me-assure-you-boris-johnson-will-fail-as-pm-hl7b6tkx5

    The trouble is, this was all said about Trump before he was elected. And when elected, he did indeed turn out to behave as had been feared....yet appears to be heading for re-election.

    (And London might have been better off if he had been a “do-nothing Mayor”, rather than p***ing so much money up the wall.)
    Well of course, in the case of the Garden Bridge he managed to do both.
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