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  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,001
    HYUFD said:

    Brexit Deal plus CU remains the likeliest outcome, it will infuriate Tory hardline Leavers wanting No Deal and many of them will vote Brexit Party or UKIP in the European Parliament elections and it will infuriate Labour hardline Remainers wanting EUref2 many of whom will vote CUK, LD or Green in the European Parliament elections but it will be acceptable to the median voter I think
    Problem with the median voter idea is that the distribution of political preferences over Brexit possibilities is bimodal and the middle ground is sparsely occupied. Though the median still matters for majority votes, it is likely to be highly unstable.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    RobD said:

    Does he actually believe what he wrote? I doubt it very much.
    The give away was him banging on about the wonders of socialism.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,734
    RobD said:

    Does he actually believe what he wrote? I doubt it very much.
    Adonis? Obviously not.

    The whole thing is a complete own goal for Labour with Remainers though. They thought having a prominent Remain campaigner as a candidate would help them, but instead they've Ratnered themselves by forcing him to toe the line.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    Scott_P said:

    twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1121399218479013888

    twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1121468428236226560

    twitter.com/mocent0/status/1121510348845191168

    She was uniquely qualified for the job....is Lord Falconer still involved?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,336

    She was uniquely qualified for the job....is Lord Falconer still involved?
    I heard he resigned recently?
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    I note that Charlie Falconer has been appointed as Labour’s Head of Complaints.

    Does he have the staying power?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,453
    RobD said:

    Does he actually believe what he wrote? I doubt it very much.
    If the Tiggers couldn't land Adonis, they really are a bag of shite....
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,251
    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/california/
    Based on the polls as they are now, and remembering that Texas and California are right at the start of the Primary season this time around. (And assuming there's an effective 5% cutoff for candidates), you get post Super Tuesday candidate shares of roughly:

    Biden 22%*
    Sanders 22%
    O'Rourke 18%
    Harris 16%
    Buttigieg 12%
    Warren 7%

    (Remember, taking out the bottom candidates scales everyone up a bit. And TX and CA have outsized impacts.)

    Everyone else essentially fails to make the cut. O'Rourke does well because he scores 33% in Texas and 16% in California.

    * Biden isn't prompted for in the CA and TX polls, so I had to guesstimate him.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,879
    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/california/
    Sanders ahead in the latest California primary poll there, Biden in the previous one.

    Harris nowhere in her home state it seems
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,879
    geoffw said:

    Problem with the median voter idea is that the distribution of political preferences over Brexit possibilities is bimodal and the middle ground is sparsely occupied. Though the median still matters for majority votes, it is likely to be highly unstable.
    Maybe but it reflects the fact Leave won but only narrowly
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    I can’t get too irate about Crossrail delays. It’s big and complex. Problems were to be expected.
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329

    I can’t get too irate about Crossrail delays. It’s big and complex. Problems were to be expected.

    A bit like Brexit - you’ve certainly not been irate about that!
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    rcs1000 said:

    Based on the polls as they are now, and remembering that Texas and California are right at the start of the Primary season this time around. (And assuming there's an effective 5% cutoff for candidates), you get post Super Tuesday candidate shares of roughly:

    Biden 22%*
    Sanders 22%
    O'Rourke 18%
    Harris 16%
    Buttigieg 12%
    Warren 7%

    (Remember, taking out the bottom candidates scales everyone up a bit. And TX and CA have outsized impacts.)

    Everyone else essentially fails to make the cut. O'Rourke does well because he scores 33% in Texas and 16% in California.

    * Biden isn't prompted for in the CA and TX polls, so I had to guesstimate him.
    That’s interesting. It suggests Beto O’Rourke may be being underestimated.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,525

    I can’t get too irate about Crossrail delays. It’s big and complex. Problems were to be expected.

    I hate the Central line, so perhaps I'm biased :)
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    A bit like Brexit - you’ve certainly not been irate about that!
    It’s Leavers who claimed it was simple.

    I’m not irate about Brexit. It’s too disastrous to waste that kind of energy on it.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    A bit like Brexit - you’ve certainly not been irate about that!
    That would be the difference between "big and complex" and "big and complex and stupid".
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    This is wonderful. Check out the number of goalies.
    https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1121304558544850945
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,156

    If the Tiggers couldn't land Adonis, they really are a bag of shite....
    Dodged bullet.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,251
    HYUFD said:

    Sanders ahead in the latest California primary poll there, Biden in the previous one.

    Harris nowhere in her home state it seems
    Harris is on 27%, one point behind first in those polls.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,879
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,453
    HYUFD said:
    Past his bedtime....
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    rcs1000 said:

    Harris is on 27%, one point behind first in those polls.
    So you think Biden will be on ~0% in California ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,251
    HYUFD said:

    Sanders ahead in the latest California primary poll there, Biden in the previous one.

    Harris nowhere in her home state it seems
    Harris jumped 10 percentage points from 17 to 27% between those two polls.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Anorak said:

    This is wonderful. Check out the number of goalies.
    https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1121304558544850945

    Wonderful
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    _Anazina_ said:

    I note that Charlie Falconer has been appointed as Labour’s Head of Complaints.

    Does he have the staying power?

    He has a job on his hands....


    https://order-order.com/2019/04/25/labour-member-suspended-jewish-donors-remark-now-labour-spokesman/
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,734
    Scott_P said:
    Hmm, in the clip that's not really what she says.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,251
    Pulpstar said:

    So you think Biden will be on ~0% in California ?
    Nope, I extrapolated as I said at the bottom. If you assume that the 27% for Harris is right. Scale everyone up for eliminating the bottom 10% of candidates, and then assume that Biden gets 20% of the non-Harris total (which is similar to how he scores of the non-O'Rourke number).

    Basically, I guessed, but they're reasonable guesses.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,251
    Floater said:

    Wonderful
    Own goal, mind.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,336

    Hmm, in the clip that's not really what she says.
    Yeah, it seems as though they were talking about "the videos".. i.e. the jihadist beheading ones. Categorise under fake news.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    rcs1000 said:

    Nope, I extrapolated as I said at the bottom. If you assume that the 27% for Harris is right. Scale everyone up for eliminating the bottom 10% of candidates, and then assume that Biden gets 20% of the non-Harris total (which is similar to how he scores of the non-O'Rourke number).

    Basically, I guessed, but they're reasonable guesses.
    No, take a look again. One poll was clearly run without Biden running and the other with. The fieldwork dates, likely voter and research company are the same...

    Now, given we know Biden is running, which should be most accurate ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,251
    Pulpstar said:

    No, take a look again. One poll was clearly run without Biden running and the other with. The fieldwork dates, likely voter and research company are the same...

    Now, given we know Biden is running, which should be most accurate ?
    Oops.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,251
    rcs1000 said:

    Oops.

    Well that means that Harris loses two points, while Biden picks up one.

    (And the rest is lost in the roundings)

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,453
    Floater said:

    He has a job on his hands....


    https://order-order.com/2019/04/25/labour-member-suspended-jewish-donors-remark-now-labour-spokesman/
    It's certainly a big old "Fuck you!! to Watson...
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    Jonathan said:

    Sorry everyone for mentioning Oxford. It sets people off.

    We as a country have been missold PPE.

    It is known as Cowley Tech by the falsely modest helmets on here
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,132
    HYUFD said:
    Should split the nutter vote in the region quite well.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    Dumb question, are the EU elections now absolutely definitely happening?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    _Anazina_ said:

    It is known as Cowley Tech by the falsely modest helmets on here

    First losers on University Challenge this week
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    Scott_P said:

    First losers on University Challenge this week
    Standards clearly slipping.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    Foxy said:

    Should split the nutter vote in the region quite well.
    Taking of helmets...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,336
    Jonathan said:

    Dumb question, are the EU elections now absolutely definitely happening?

    They are definitely happening until they are not.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    _Anazina_ said:

    Taking of helmets...
    Wee Willy Winky
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,906
    edited April 2019
    RobD said:

    They are definitely happening until they are not.
    Presumably May has to make *some* sort of insane effort to get the withdrawal agreement passed before then, even if it has no chance of succeeding, even if it involves a buy one get one free deal on owls AND unicorns, rather than just sighing, accepting the lot and preparing for the elections.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,218

    Hmm, in the clip that's not really what she says.
    I just listened to the podcast... she slags off child porn and says its illegal, vile etc, but seems to think nothing should be censored on the internet inc jihadi videos... I don’t really get her point to be honest
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,910
    edited April 2019
    RobD said:

    They are definitely happening until they are not.
    How do returning officers go about recruiting the staff to run the polling stations?
    We are less than a month away. My partner, who is doing the locals, has been asked to provisionally book a day off for the Euros, on the chance they may happen. She is self-employed, and, by coincidence, has Thursday as her regular free day. How are others managing?
    Bear in mind they need to be verified and trained, so you can't just rustle up a few temps.
    Minor point, in the scheme of things, I guess...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,336
    dixiedean said:

    How do returning officers go about recruiting the staff to run the polling stations?
    We are less than a month away. My partner, who is doing the locals, has been asked to provisionally book a day off for the Euros, on the chance they may happen. She is self-employed, and, by coincidence, has Thursday as her regular free day. How are others managing?
    Bear in mind they need to be verified and trained, so you can't just rustle up a few temps.
    Minor point, in the scheme of things, I guess...
    Aren't they usually bank tellers?
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