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  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    viewcode said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    AndyJS said:

    Have the Brexit Party said they would stand at a general election?

    Farage said yes if Brexit isn't delivered. Winter is coming
    Another laughing stock to keep everyone in shit and giggles.
    Remember what John Curtice said about Brexit not being Left v Right. Farage is running with that saying its Right vs Wrong. A plague on the poliitical establishment. Very Trump. I don't find it as funny as you do.
    Anything the risible Farage gets involved in is inherently laughable. The man is a clown.
    ...and also the most successful UK politician of his generation, possibly the most successful of in the Western world.
    🧐
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited April 2019
    This is how I think we'll do as a country with the various Brexit scenarios.

    Remain: things will be mostly fine/okay.
    Deal Brexit: things will be mostly fine/okay.
    No Deal Brexit: things will be mostly fine/okay.

    The whole Brexit debate is turning into a proxy for all sorts of other things IMO.
  • Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,401
    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    Danny565 said:

    nico67 said:

    Apparently another GE poll puts the Tories on 23% and Labour 33% with the Brexit Party on 14% .

    Of course once Brexit is done this will make a very big difference .

    Don't tease me like this without providing a source!

    EDIT: Can't find any trace of this poll :(
    Apparently it's on one of the front pages for tomorrow. Elections Maps is quoting it, and that's usually reliable

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118643463380185088
    Noise. It will all settle down eventually. The BXP will spunk too early and achieve the cube root of fuck all in any general election.
    No, I don't think so. Not unless Brexit is delivered and if there's a GE this year anyway.

    The Brexit Party is well on course to win the European elections, which alone will give them 12 months of publicity and a frequent ticket to the top table of Question Time and so on. It will solidify their GE VI in double-figures (perhaps *well* into double figures) and could well finally kill off what's left of UKIP, which will be drained of money, supporters, activists and elected representatives.
    Chill out. We are always told to fear the far right.

    Every time they collapse, having proved themselves to be thick racist idiots.

    The ‘BXP’ will be no different.
    I don't expect them to win an election (but I wouldn't entirely rule it out either - with 6-7 GB parties, 25% could be a winning score), but my main concern is slightly different but I'll come to that in my Saturday piece.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
    They will do well at the Euros, then just fade into the usual vortex of incompetence, racism and contradiction.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    houndtang said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Danny565 said:

    https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1118639049051377665

    First double-digit Labour lead since January 2014.

    This poll is exactly the Tory nightmare that Cameron called the referendum to avoid.
    Yes, well if the ERG Ultras had voted for Brexit when they had the chance, that wouldn't have been an issue.

    Of course, it's not a problem for them: they can defect to Farage without difficulty.
    The blame lays with the arch Eurosceptics and the arch Europhiles.

    Thanks to them, we may be broken in two.
    Also, Theresa May and her two gatekeepers. If she'd won the 100+ majority that was there for the taking, neither the DUP nor the ERG ultras would have stopped Brexit.
    With Corbyn the Tories' had the greatest opportunity ever to kill off Labour maybe forever, instead they have contrived to put Marxists in pole position to form a government.
    Even with Corbyn the Tories would never have killed off Labour forever, there will always be socialists just as there will always be conservatives, in any case it will be hard Brexiteers voting Brexit Party not Tory that will enable Corbyn to become PM under FPTP on current polling. That is their choice, they know the risk so cannot complain if he does get to No 10, a Brexit Party protest vote under PR in the Euro elections is fair enough, a Brexit Party vote in a general election in a marginal seat under FPTP which elects a Labour MP and enables PM Corbyn is a different matter altogether
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited April 2019

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Fake news.....2 of the 4 didnt malfunction, the reviewers peeled off the screen despite the instructions telling them not to.

    That been said folding phones seem like a really.dumb idea. My s10 on the other hand is the bollocks with a far better screen than the iCrap and no massive notch.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    Danny565 said:

    nico67 said:

    Apparently another GE poll puts the Tories on 23% and Labour 33% with the Brexit Party on 14% .

    Of course once Brexit is done this will make a very big difference .

    Don't tease me like this without providing a source!

    EDIT: Can't find any trace of this poll :(
    Apparently it's on one of the front pages for tomorrow. Elections Maps is quoting it, and that's usually reliable

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118643463380185088
    Noise. It will all settle down eventually. The BXP will spunk too early and achieve the cube root of fuck all in any general election.
    No, I don't think so. Not unless Brexit is delivered and if there's a GE this year anyway.

    The Brexit Party is well on course to win the European elections, which alone will give them 12 months of publicity and a frequent ticket to the top table of Question Time and so on. It will solidify their GE VI in double-figures (perhaps *well* into double figures) and could well finally kill off what's left of UKIP, which will be drained of money, supporters, activists and elected representatives.
    Chill out. We are always told to fear the far right.

    Every time they collapse, having proved themselves to be thick racist idiots.

    The ‘BXP’ will be no different.
    I don't expect them to win an election (but I wouldn't entirely rule it out either - with 6-7 GB parties, 25% could be a winning score), but my main concern is slightly different but I'll come to that in my Saturday piece.
    I wouldn’t worry about them, TBH.
  • HYUFD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    So this is it. At best 3 more years of hanging onto power by our fingernails before falling to the Corbynite wave.

    Good night.

    There is no Corbynite wave, ZERO, NADA.

    For goodness sake Corbyn is polling WORSE than Kinnock 1992 on all the polls tonight and 7% worse even than he got in 2017. All that has happened is a Brexit Party wave. Until the Tories deliver Brexit or replace May with a hard Brexit leader like Boris or Raab that will continue
    He was polling a lot worse than Kinnock in 1992 back in April 2017 how'd he perform in the general election a few weeks later?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    My Samsung generally serves me fine and is also cheaper than an Apple would have been
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
    They will do well at the Euros, then just fade into the usual vortex of incompetence, racism and contradiction.
    I would compare them to an incoming tide. Sure, each wave collapses back from the beach but over time the waves come higher and higher.

    I had hoped that these Euro elections would mark a turning of the tide, but it is beginning to look like that won't be the case. The far-right tide continues to rise.
  • Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Fake news.....2 of the 4 didnt malfunction, the reviewers peeled off the screen despite the instructions telling them not to.

    That been said folding phones seem like a really.dumb idea. My s10 on the other hand is the bollocks with a far better screen than the iCrap and no massive notch.
    But two others did break.

    Not good enough.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited April 2019

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Fake news.....2 of the 4 didnt malfunction, the reviewers peeled off the screen despite the instructions telling them not to.

    That been said folding phones seem like a really.dumb idea. My s10 on the other hand is the bollocks with a far better screen than the iCrap and no massive notch.
    But two others did break.

    Not good enough.
    Out of 100s of review samples. For example all air pods 2 on launch had a massive bug that screws the audio to max volume for no reason. And to fix it you have to upgrade the firmware, but the upgrade process isnt working properly.

    And of course mac laptop butterfly keyboard is a shit show.

    But it is clear they have rushed it as you can see the crease. I honestly just dont get the desire for a folding phone.
  • isamisam Posts: 40,731
    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    Danny565 said:

    nico67 said:

    Apparently another GE poll puts the Tories on 23% and Labour 33% with the Brexit Party on 14% .

    Of course once Brexit is done this will make a very big difference .

    Don't tease me like this without providing a source!

    EDIT: Can't find any trace of this poll :(
    Apparently it's on one of the front pages for tomorrow. Elections Maps is quoting it, and that's usually reliable

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118643463380185088
    Noise. It will all settle down eventually. The BXP will spunk too early and achieve the cube root of fuck all in any general election.
    No, I don't think so. Not unless Brexit is delivered and if there's a GE this year anyway.

    The Brexit Party is well on course to win the European elections, which alone will give them 12 months of publicity and a frequent ticket to the top table of Question Time and so on. It will solidify their GE VI in double-figures (perhaps *well* into double figures) and could well finally kill off what's left of UKIP, which will be drained of money, supporters, activists and elected representatives.
    Chill out. We are always told to fear the far right.

    Every time they collapse, having proved themselves to be thick racist idiots.

    The ‘BXP’ will be no different.
    I don't expect them to win an election (but I wouldn't entirely rule it out either - with 6-7 GB parties, 25% could be a winning score), but my main concern is slightly different but I'll come to that in my Saturday piece.
    I wouldn’t worry about them, TBH.
    If no one mentions them, they might go away... worked with TIG
  • Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Fake news.....2 of the 4 didnt malfunction, the reviewers peeled off the screen despite the instructions telling them not to.

    That been said folding phones seem like a really.dumb idea. My s10 on the other hand is the bollocks with a far better screen than the iCrap and no massive notch.
    But two others did break.

    Not good enough.
    Out of 100s of review samples. For example all air pods 2 on launch had a massive bug that screws the audio to max volume for no reason. And to fix it you have to upgrade the firmware, but the upgrade process isnt working properly.

    And of course mac laptop butterfly keyboard is a shit show.

    But it is clear they have rushed it as you can see the crease. I honestly just dont get the desire for a folding phone.
    I don’t get it either.

    I prefer clamshell phones.

    I loved my Motorola v3.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810
    isam said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    Danny565 said:

    nico67 said:

    Apparently another GE poll puts the Tories on 23% and Labour 33% with the Brexit Party on 14% .

    Of course once Brexit is done this will make a very big difference .

    Don't tease me like this without providing a source!

    EDIT: Can't find any trace of this poll :(
    Apparently it's on one of the front pages for tomorrow. Elections Maps is quoting it, and that's usually reliable

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118643463380185088
    Noise. It will all settle down eventually. The BXP will spunk too early and achieve the cube root of fuck all in any general election.
    No, I don't think so. Not unless Brexit is delivered and if there's a GE this year anyway.

    The Brexit Party is well on course to win the European elections, which alone will give them 12 months of publicity and a frequent ticket to the top table of Question Time and so on. It will solidify their GE VI in double-figures (perhaps *well* into double figures) and could well finally kill off what's left of UKIP, which will be drained of money, supporters, activists and elected representatives.
    Chill out. We are always told to fear the far right.

    Every time they collapse, having proved themselves to be thick racist idiots.

    The ‘BXP’ will be no different.
    I don't expect them to win an election (but I wouldn't entirely rule it out either - with 6-7 GB parties, 25% could be a winning score), but my main concern is slightly different but I'll come to that in my Saturday piece.
    I wouldn’t worry about them, TBH.
    If no one mentions them, they might go away... worked with TIG
    LOL
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
    They will do well at the Euros, then just fade into the usual vortex of incompetence, racism and contradiction.
    I would compare them to an incoming tide. Sure, each wave collapses back from the beach but over time the waves come higher and higher.

    I had hoped that these Euro elections would mark a turning of the tide, but it is beginning to look like that won't be the case. The far-right tide continues to rise.

    Nah. They are just the hopeless kippers under a new name. Fishing in the same rancid pool of thick racists. Fear them not.
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
    They will do well at the Euros, then just fade into the usual vortex of incompetence, racism and contradiction.
    I would compare them to an incoming tide. Sure, each wave collapses back from the beach but over time the waves come higher and higher.

    I had hoped that these Euro elections would mark a turning of the tide, but it is beginning to look like that won't be the case. The far-right tide continues to rise.

    Nah. They are just the hopeless kippers under a new name. Fishing in the same rancid pool of thick racists. Fear them not.
    Compared to decent human beings like you?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,787

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
    They will do well at the Euros, then just fade into the usual vortex of incompetence, racism and contradiction.
    I would compare them to an incoming tide. Sure, each wave collapses back from the beach but over time the waves come higher and higher.

    I had hoped that these Euro elections would mark a turning of the tide, but it is beginning to look like that won't be the case. The far-right tide continues to rise.
    There were a few polls before the 2014 Euros with UKIP over 35% so don’t get too despondent.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Fake news.....2 of the 4 didnt malfunction, the reviewers peeled off the screen despite the instructions telling them not to.

    That been said folding phones seem like a really.dumb idea. My s10 on the other hand is the bollocks with a far better screen than the iCrap and no massive notch.

    I finally traded in my ancient iPhone 6s Plus 128GB for a brand new... iPhone 6s Plus 128GB. The last iPhone with an audio port, and probably the best phone ever made.
  • _Anazina__Anazina_ Posts: 1,810

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
    They will do well at the Euros, then just fade into the usual vortex of incompetence, racism and contradiction.
    I would compare them to an incoming tide. Sure, each wave collapses back from the beach but over time the waves come higher and higher.

    I had hoped that these Euro elections would mark a turning of the tide, but it is beginning to look like that won't be the case. The far-right tide continues to rise.

    Nah. They are just the hopeless kippers under a new name. Fishing in the same rancid pool of thick racists. Fear them not.
    Compared to decent human beings like you?
    LOL
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    edited April 2019
    Everyone talks their corner as if it's the nations corner. But, on here at least, the remoaners bile is choking. Nuff said.
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:
    The Kippers have faded to nothing. The Brexits will eventually do the same.
    That's a strange way to look at what is happening.
    Not really.
    Well you seem to be arguing that the Brexit Party will eventually fade away when Farage launches a more successful vehicle for his political ambitions which is not particularly reassuring.
    The BXP is just the new UKIP - all push and no piss. Just watch.
    They will do well at the Euros, then just fade into the usual vortex of incompetence, racism and contradiction.
    I would compare them to an incoming tide. Sure, each wave collapses back from the beach but over time the waves come higher and higher.

    I had hoped that these Euro elections would mark a turning of the tide, but it is beginning to look like that won't be the case. The far-right tide continues to rise.

    Nah. They are just the hopeless kippers under a new name. Fishing in the same rancid pool of thick racists. Fear them not.
    Compared to decent human beings like you?
    LOL
    I agree!
  • isamisam Posts: 40,731
    _Anazina_ said:

    isam said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    _Anazina_ said:

    Danny565 said:

    nico67 said:

    Apparently another GE poll puts the Tories on 23% and Labour 33% with the Brexit Party on 14% .

    Of course once Brexit is done this will make a very big difference .

    Don't tease me like this without providing a source!

    EDIT: Can't find any trace of this poll :(
    Apparently it's on one of the front pages for tomorrow. Elections Maps is quoting it, and that's usually reliable

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118643463380185088
    Noise. It will all settle down eventually. The BXP will spunk too early and achieve the cube root of fuck all in any general election.
    No, I don't think so. Not unless Brexit is delivered and if there's a GE this year anyway.

    The Brexit Party is well on course to win the European elections, which alone will give them 12 months of publicity and a frequent ticket to the top table of Question Time and so on. It will solidify their GE VI in double-figures (perhaps *well* into double figures) and could well finally kill off what's left of UKIP, which will be drained of money, supporters, activists and elected representatives.
    Chill out. We are always told to fear the far right.

    Every time they collapse, having proved themselves to be thick racist idiots.

    The ‘BXP’ will be no different.
    I don't expect them to win an election (but I wouldn't entirely rule it out either - with 6-7 GB parties, 25% could be a winning score), but my main concern is slightly different but I'll come to that in my Saturday piece.
    I wouldn’t worry about them, TBH.
    If no one mentions them, they might go away... worked with TIG
    LOL
    No, TIG 🤣
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,232
    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    It's a right bugger sticking a laptop in your pocket.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,400
    RoyalBlue said:

    So this is it. At best 3 more years of hanging onto power by our fingernails before falling to the Corbynite wave.

    Good night.

    If you can last three years theres a chance to recover. But lasting that long seems impossible. If you do it will be 12 years on office, which is not a bad run.

    I said last year Tories needed to get used to being behind in the polls.. it would not be unusual for a government to be behind in the middle period of a parliament after all. So terrible though being smashed in the locals and EPs will be, they need to get a grip.

    It doesn't mean there's no hope. But they do need to sort out their internal shit and then secure their majority again. Neither will be easy because of Brexit, hence why holding on for 3 years is a pipe dream.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,400
    TGOHF said:

    I

    Is may the worst leader of a major uk political party ever?

    Oh no - it’s all the fault of the ERG - I read it on here....

    Hammond, Rudd and Greening have got this under control - don’t panic.

    Lol.
    It's not all the fault of the ERG. But it is pretty silly to suggest the people voting against Brexit have nothing to do with Brexit not happening, and a blowback happening as a result. If the Brexit on offer is not worth having they should not mind accepting responsibility for voting it down. Its curious they and their backers seek to act like May's ineptitude happened in a vacuum, as though other factors frustrating things are not also in play.
  • _Anazina_ said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Fake news.....2 of the 4 didnt malfunction, the reviewers peeled off the screen despite the instructions telling them not to.

    That been said folding phones seem like a really.dumb idea. My s10 on the other hand is the bollocks with a far better screen than the iCrap and no massive notch.

    I finally traded in my ancient iPhone 6s Plus 128GB for a brand new... iPhone 6s Plus 128GB. The last iPhone with an audio port, and probably the best phone ever made.
    I agree. Love my 6 Plus - will only change it when Apple stop upgrades for it or it dies
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited April 2019
    kle4 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    So this is it. At best 3 more years of hanging onto power by our fingernails before falling to the Corbynite wave.

    Good night.

    If you can last three years theres a chance to recover. But lasting that long seems impossible. If you do it will be 12 years on office, which is not a bad run.

    I said last year Tories needed to get used to being behind in the polls.. it would not be unusual for a government to be behind in the middle period of a parliament after all. So terrible though being smashed in the locals and EPs will be, they need to get a grip.

    It doesn't mean there's no hope. But they do need to sort out their internal shit and then secure their majority again. Neither will be easy because of Brexit, hence why holding on for 3 years is a pipe dream.
    The thing is may / tories dont appear to stand for anything...there is no vision at all. Who ever they replace may with needs to have a vision for the future and have formulated policies to achieve it by the time the election comes around.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,771
    HYUFD said:
    It is worth remembering, as regards Bill Clinton, that the presence of Ross Perot meant he didn't need to do that well.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,400
    Folding screen phones seem like the 3d TVs of the next few years, or at best motion controlled game consoles - briefly popular, still some market for it but nowhere near as ubiquitous as people expected.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,400

    kle4 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    So this is it. At best 3 more years of hanging onto power by our fingernails before falling to the Corbynite wave.

    Good night.

    If you can last three years theres a chance to recover. But lasting that long seems impossible. If you do it will be 12 years on office, which is not a bad run.

    I said last year Tories needed to get used to being behind in the polls.. it would not be unusual for a government to be behind in the middle period of a parliament after all. So terrible though being smashed in the locals and EPs will be, they need to get a grip.

    It doesn't mean there's no hope. But they do need to sort out their internal shit and then secure their majority again. Neither will be easy because of Brexit, hence why holding on for 3 years is a pipe dream.
    The thing is may / tories dont appear to stand for anything...there is no vision at all. Who ever they replace may with needs to have a vision for the future and have formulated policies to achieve it by the time the election comes around.
    Indeed. Which is why they need the whole 3 years. And why they will lose as I doubt they'll get that
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,771
    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    edited April 2019
    In regards to the football fan who ran on the pitch to hit a player getting slashed with a knife, seems to be misinformation (or ahh 'fake news') seen something that has it as a Patrick Thistle fan (slashed for seemingly no reason other than football violence) picture is absolutely horrific, far worse than I imagined. People are terrible.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited April 2019
    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    I never have a problem...

    image
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited April 2019
    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,771
    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    Interesting: personally, I'm pretty much always suited up with my Hololens
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,787

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    I never have a problem...

    image
    When the image wasn’t loading I thought it would be MC Hammer trousers.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723

    Danny565 said:

    https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1118639049051377665

    First double-digit Labour lead since January 2014.

    This poll is exactly the Tory nightmare that Cameron called the referendum to avoid.
    Yes, well if the ERG Ultras had voted for Brexit when they had the chance, that wouldn't have been an issue.

    Of course, it's not a problem for them: they can defect to Farage without difficulty.
    Unfortunately for you ERG ultras represent the majority of Tory members you TSE and Big G dont
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "More than half of Britons think Labour has 'serious antisemitism problem', poll reveals

    A ComRes survey shows 55% agree Jeremy Corbyn's "failure to tackle antisemitism shows he is unfit to be prime minister"."

    https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-half-of-britons-think-labour-has-serious-antisemitism-problem-poll-reveals-11696752
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    Leading questions in producing answer sort after surprise.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    What is going to be the Conservatives’ polling nadir in the short term? 23% doesn’t have to be the floor.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,517

    Leading questions in producing answer sort after surprise.

    Or alternatively, perhaps, just perhaps, Labour does have a problem with anti-Semitism, and Corbyn's failure to tackle it is a negative point in the eyes of many people?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,517
    As you were all talking about mobile phones, Apple and Qualcomm have settled their patent dispute, with Apple paying Qualcomm an undisclosed sum.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47956890

    Apple caved in, as the thieving b*****rds realised they didn't have a leg to stand on.

    Their hand might also have been forced, as Intel have announced that they are pulling out of attempts to make a 5G modem for next-gen phones. That removed the supplier Apple had been planning to use instead of Qualcomm. So their choices were to settle with Qualcomm, or delay a 5G phone until they could design-in one of the few other providers, e.g. Mediatek.
  • eekeek Posts: 24,797
    edited April 2019
    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    Interesting: personally, I'm pretty much always suited up with my Hololens
    Have you seen the Hololens klm hold loading video?

    From what I can gather the payback time for the equipment is about 1-2 weeks
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614

    As you were all talking about mobile phones, Apple and Qualcomm have settled their patent dispute, with Apple paying Qualcomm an undisclosed sum.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47956890

    Apple caved in, as the thieving b*****rds realised they didn't have a leg to stand on.

    Their hand might also have been forced, as Intel have announced that they are pulling out of attempts to make a 5G modem for next-gen phones. That removed the supplier Apple had been planning to use instead of Qualcomm. So their choices were to settle with Qualcomm, or delay a 5G phone until they could design-in one of the few other providers, e.g. Mediatek.

    Apple had little choice but to settle at this point, or risk being 2-3 years late getting 5G out of the door. The US patent system as it relates to software is completely broken and arbitrary, but reform of it doesn’t lead to votes and the large incumbent players can deal with it.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Scott_P said:
    If you look a little further down, we come to a retweet about church arson and $200,000 needed. If French billionaires can do it, you'd think there'd be someone in America who can write a cheque.
    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1118684199056285696
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,517
    Sandpit said:

    As you were all talking about mobile phones, Apple and Qualcomm have settled their patent dispute, with Apple paying Qualcomm an undisclosed sum.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47956890

    Apple caved in, as the thieving b*****rds realised they didn't have a leg to stand on.

    Their hand might also have been forced, as Intel have announced that they are pulling out of attempts to make a 5G modem for next-gen phones. That removed the supplier Apple had been planning to use instead of Qualcomm. So their choices were to settle with Qualcomm, or delay a 5G phone until they could design-in one of the few other providers, e.g. Mediatek.

    Apple had little choice but to settle at this point, or risk being 2-3 years late getting 5G out of the door. The US patent system as it relates to software is completely broken and arbitrary, but reform of it doesn’t lead to votes and the large incumbent players can deal with it.
    The way Apple treats other companies - especially small ones - is utterly borken and sh*t.

    They're nasty, hideous bullies. They innovate by stealing.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,669
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:
    It is worth remembering, as regards Bill Clinton, that the presence of Ross Perot meant he didn't need to do that well.
    True, but three of the States listed Trump won by tiny majorities, "According to the final tallies, Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes), Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes), Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes)."
    If they fall to the Democrats next time Trump is in trouble.
    https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143

    What is going to be the Conservatives’ polling nadir in the short term? 23% doesn’t have to be the floor.

    The 15% in the European elections poll probably represents the diamond-hard core of Tory support.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,933
    Good morning, everyone.

    Mr. Song, aye, one reason why Trump might struggle next time. I suspect he'll lose the election (although I didn't think he'd win the first...).
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069

    What is going to be the Conservatives’ polling nadir in the short term? 23% doesn’t have to be the floor.

    The 15% in the European elections poll probably represents the diamond-hard core of Tory support.
    Though as half that 15% are Remainers, that may not be the bottom. Perhaps 8-9% is the blue rosette on a donkey level.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    Foxy said:

    What is going to be the Conservatives’ polling nadir in the short term? 23% doesn’t have to be the floor.

    The 15% in the European elections poll probably represents the diamond-hard core of Tory support.
    Though as half that 15% are Remainers, that may not be the bottom. Perhaps 8-9% is the blue rosette on a donkey level.
    If you voted Remain in 2016 and you're still willing to vote Tory today, after the last couple of years of May, the ERG, etc, then I'd suggest you are well into blue rosette on donkey territory.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,879

    Foxy said:

    What is going to be the Conservatives’ polling nadir in the short term? 23% doesn’t have to be the floor.

    The 15% in the European elections poll probably represents the diamond-hard core of Tory support.
    Though as half that 15% are Remainers, that may not be the bottom. Perhaps 8-9% is the blue rosette on a donkey level.
    If you voted Remain in 2016 and you're still willing to vote Tory today, after the last couple of years of May, the ERG, etc, then I'd suggest you are well into blue rosette on donkey territory.

    Presumably there are a few stop Corbyns among them who may could now switch to other parties in order to stop Corbyn.

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,879
    Sandpit said:

    As you were all talking about mobile phones, Apple and Qualcomm have settled their patent dispute, with Apple paying Qualcomm an undisclosed sum.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47956890

    Apple caved in, as the thieving b*****rds realised they didn't have a leg to stand on.

    Their hand might also have been forced, as Intel have announced that they are pulling out of attempts to make a 5G modem for next-gen phones. That removed the supplier Apple had been planning to use instead of Qualcomm. So their choices were to settle with Qualcomm, or delay a 5G phone until they could design-in one of the few other providers, e.g. Mediatek.

    Apple had little choice but to settle at this point, or risk being 2-3 years late getting 5G out of the door. The US patent system as it relates to software is completely broken and arbitrary, but reform of it doesn’t lead to votes and the large incumbent players can deal with it.

    It wasn't really software patents that were at play here: it was semiconductor ones.

    I am not sue that Apple caved. The issue was always how much Qualcomm was charging for its patents and the early indications are that Apple will be paying a lot less in the future. But this was undoubtedly a hugely important outcome for Qualcomm. It has given them a level of certainty about the next few years they have not had for a very long time. Our take here:

    https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/breaking-apple-and-qualcomm-agree-settlement

  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901

    Foxy said:

    What is going to be the Conservatives’ polling nadir in the short term? 23% doesn’t have to be the floor.

    The 15% in the European elections poll probably represents the diamond-hard core of Tory support.
    Though as half that 15% are Remainers, that may not be the bottom. Perhaps 8-9% is the blue rosette on a donkey level.
    If you voted Remain in 2016 and you're still willing to vote Tory today, after the last couple of years of May, the ERG, etc, then I'd suggest you are well into blue rosette on donkey territory.

    Presumably there are a few stop Corbyns among them who may could now switch to other parties in order to stop Corbyn.

    The Tories will be fine, they always are. At some point the self preservation instinct will kick in.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,083
    Jonathan said:

    Foxy said:

    What is going to be the Conservatives’ polling nadir in the short term? 23% doesn’t have to be the floor.

    The 15% in the European elections poll probably represents the diamond-hard core of Tory support.
    Though as half that 15% are Remainers, that may not be the bottom. Perhaps 8-9% is the blue rosette on a donkey level.
    If you voted Remain in 2016 and you're still willing to vote Tory today, after the last couple of years of May, the ERG, etc, then I'd suggest you are well into blue rosette on donkey territory.

    Presumably there are a few stop Corbyns among them who may could now switch to other parties in order to stop Corbyn.

    The Tories will be fine, they always are. At some point the self preservation instinct will kick in.
    Beyond the point of no return, with any luck.
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,340
    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    edited April 2019

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.
    Damn you liberal elite with your metropolitan indulgence . This is the next target of the Brexit right. We’ll be shitting in the woods and pulling rabbit flesh out of our beards soon enough if Farage has his way.
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,340

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
    This is true, but isn’t an argument against mass smartphone ownership.
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,349
    Mr fire,

    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years"


    That could be the first line of the Green Party manifesto.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    edited April 2019

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
    This is true, but isn’t an argument against mass smartphone ownership.
    I think the argument was against using one all the time, rather than against owning one outright.*

    *Full disclosure: this may or may not have been posted from my smartphone while heading to bed. :D
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069
    edited April 2019

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
    Actually, much as I enjoy my smartphone while having tea in bed of a morning, I know that you are right. I have considered going cold turkey with a 2g dumphone, but not yet taken the plunge. Ideally I would like an android app that locks out data usage on a timer. I do not know of one, but how hard is that sort of app to write?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Foxy said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
    Actually, much as I enjoy my smartphone while having tea in bed of a morning, I know that you are right. I have considered going cold turkey with a 2g dumphone, but not yet taken the plunge. I deally I would like an android app that locks out data usage on a timer. I do not know of one, but how hard is that sort of app to write?
    Could you program your partner to perform such a function? :p
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    edited April 2019
    Turn off all notifications
    Buy an alarm clock
    Charge it downstairs
    Uninstall native apps for social media and news
    Put the web browser icon somewhere where it takes 2-3 clicks

    ...

    Get banned on PB.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Foxy said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
    Actually, much as I enjoy my smartphone while having tea in bed of a morning, I know that you are right. I have considered going cold turkey with a 2g dumphone, but not yet taken the plunge. Ideally I would like an android app that locks out data usage on a timer. I do not know of one, but how hard is that sort of app to write?
    There is an app called FocusMe that blocks specific shop during specific time periods
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Foxy said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with Galaxy Fold devices for some hands-on time, and it appears the folding smartphone may be suffering from some serious flaws. Three of the reviewers who received a Galaxy Fold have already experienced failures, all of which focus on the display.

    The Verge's Dieter Bohn says that his Galaxy Fold device broke after a random bulge appeared on the display, perhaps from a piece of debris that had gotten into the hinge. The debris, or whatever the bulge was, pressed into the display hard enough to break it.


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
    Actually, much as I enjoy my smartphone while having tea in bed of a morning, I know that you are right. I have considered going cold turkey with a 2g dumphone, but not yet taken the plunge. Ideally I would like an android app that locks out data usage on a timer. I do not know of one, but how hard is that sort of app to write?
    The tech nerds are already on the case. See Freedom, for instance. Others are available. I've not used any but happened to be reading about this just an hour or so back.
    https://freedom.to/
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069
    RobD said:

    Foxy said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Turns out Samsung have come up with a phone nearly as bad as the Note 7.

    Multiple Reviewers Facing Broken Galaxy Fold Devices After Just Days of Use.

    Samsung this week provided reviewers with


    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/17/samsung-broken-galaxy-fold-devices/

    This is why all the cool kids stick with Apple and their brilliant products, especially the iPhone.

    Samsung phones = Hawaiian Pizzas.

    Why do people use smartphones when laptops are adequate for nearly everything?
    My laptop doesn't fit well in my jeans pocket.
    Precisely. It means you only use a computing device when you really need to. No-one really needs to use a device when they're walking down the street in my opinion, (although I have occasionally done that with a laptop).

    Let's face it — if everyone on the planet could manage without a smartphone in 2006 we should be able to do so now.
    We managed fine by living in caves and going without flushing toilets for thousands of years. Doesn’t mean we should go back to it.

    Modern life is increasingly run around the assumption you have a smartphone in your pocket, like it or not.
    A lot of us would be healthier if we didn’t feel the need to be constantly in the loop. It is rarely important when you hear news. Most of the time we would do better thinking than consuming information. Most of that information is wrong or misleading anyway.
    Actually, much as I enjoy my smartphone while having tea in bed of a morning, I know that you are right. I have considered going cold turkey with a 2g dumphone, but not yet taken the plunge. I deally I would like an android app that locks out data usage on a timer. I do not know of one, but how hard is that sort of app to write?
    Could you program your partner to perform such a function? :p
    Mrs Foxy leaves for work at 0715, so it doesn't really work that way. I have a day off today anyway.

    A lock on data allows the other smartphone functions such as music, notepad, etc, but takes away that constant temptation to be on the net, while allowing phone and text communication. Employers may find it does wonders for productivity.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,575
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:
    It is worth remembering, as regards Bill Clinton, that the presence of Ross Perot meant he didn't need to do that well.
    It’s also worth remembering that Lunz’s definition of ‘a hair’ needs treating with some skepticism.

    Particularly as his own comes from the Fabricant stable....

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,575
    Jonathan said:

    Turn off all notifications
    Buy an alarm clock
    Charge it downstairs
    Uninstall native apps for social media and news
    Put the web browser icon somewhere where it takes 2-3 clicks

    ...

    Get banned on PB.

    Reads a bit like an updated version of Auden’s ‘Stop all the clocks’.

  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Good morning. Will any ERG MPs join the Brexit Party?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,933
    Mr. Freggles, interesting question. Timing and influence are perhaps the key factors (although maybe personal disgruntlement would play a role too). I wonder if memories of what can happen to a career if you're reckless might deter potential defectors.
  • NEW THREAD

  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    @Foxy

    There's, as I understanding it, an increasing body of evidence around smartphones, addiction to the "like"-rush of social media and diminishing concentration periods. Certainly, meals where people are constantly photographing food and checking for interesting information from somebody else is a very frustrating thing. China is particularly bad for this. The ability to exercise self-restraint has effectively disappeared.

    Smartphones are a good but a qualified good and certainly in professions such as law they've led to an "always on" life and a client-led desire to immediate answers (whether or not those answers will be better left to mature for a while).
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069
    matt said:

    @Foxy

    There's, as I understanding it, an increasing body of evidence around smartphones, addiction to the "like"-rush of social media and diminishing concentration periods. Certainly, meals where people are constantly photographing food and checking for interesting information from somebody else is a very frustrating thing. China is particularly bad for this. The ability to exercise self-restraint has effectively disappeared.

    Smartphones are a good but a qualified good and certainly in professions such as law they've led to an "always on" life and a client-led desire to immediate answers (whether or not those answers will be better left to mature for a while).

    I am not as bad as many, but smartphones are pretty damn addictive.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,517

    Sandpit said:

    As you were all talking about mobile phones, Apple and Qualcomm have settled their patent dispute, with Apple paying Qualcomm an undisclosed sum.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47956890

    Apple caved in, as the thieving b*****rds realised they didn't have a leg to stand on.

    Their hand might also have been forced, as Intel have announced that they are pulling out of attempts to make a 5G modem for next-gen phones. That removed the supplier Apple had been planning to use instead of Qualcomm. So their choices were to settle with Qualcomm, or delay a 5G phone until they could design-in one of the few other providers, e.g. Mediatek.

    Apple had little choice but to settle at this point, or risk being 2-3 years late getting 5G out of the door. The US patent system as it relates to software is completely broken and arbitrary, but reform of it doesn’t lead to votes and the large incumbent players can deal with it.

    It wasn't really software patents that were at play here: it was semiconductor ones.

    I am not sue that Apple caved. The issue was always how much Qualcomm was charging for its patents and the early indications are that Apple will be paying a lot less in the future. But this was undoubtedly a hugely important outcome for Qualcomm. It has given them a level of certainty about the next few years they have not had for a very long time. Our take here:

    https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/breaking-apple-and-qualcomm-agree-settlement
    Whilst that's accurate, there's some much deeper stories involved in this that reflect poorly on the entire patenting regime in tech, and the entire purpose of patent laws.

    But I probably need to be careful what I say on a public forum, except to add Apple are evil. ;)
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