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The 2019 Euro elections – not a contest I thought was going to require a British perspective. Yet here we are, taking at least one more curtain call.
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How exactly are we going to get capitalism to "lead the way" on those issues?stodge said:
There you have the problem of modern capitalism. The Victorian entrepreneurs realised an educated and healthy work force would be more productive so they led the way in public health and education. Cities were cleared of cholera though not pollution and gradually diet improved so people became taller, stronger and lived longer.isam said:
The competition for low wage jobs doesn't help the problem in your opening paragraph. But big corporates cant make huge profits without such exploitationstodge said:
This isn't just about homelessness or rough sleeping but about the quality of life for thousands of people. It shouldn't be acceptable in 2019 in the UK for families to live in one room - it shouldn't be acceptable for 20 or more people to live in a 3-bedroom suburban semi and it shouldn't be people for people to be caged up in a modern day workhouse like Terminus House.DavidL said:The official figures on homelessness don't show any surge at all: https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/statutory-homelessness
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
We need a similar approach in the 21st Century with capitalism leading the way on tackling climate change, addiction and mental health. I'd start by reducing working hours and ending the "long hours" culture which is fuelled by drug use and/or poor diet. If we worked less and lived a little more, I think we'd all be better off.0 -
Watching the Remainers point to Brexit and UKIP getting 50 odd % of the vote between them and only 2 seats would be beautiful0
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I think Brexit Party and Change UK could end up fighting it out for first and second with Labour third and Con fourth or even fifth in this election.0
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I am not sure that more than a handful of Victorian entrepreneurs were as enlightened as claimed. If that is wrong it is strange that we needed so many Factory Acts.Stereotomy said:
How exactly are we going to get capitalism to "lead the way" on those issues?stodge said:
There you have the problem of modern capitalism. The Victorian entrepreneurs realised an educated and healthy work force would be more productive so they led the way in public health and education. Cities were cleared of cholera though not pollution and gradually diet improved so people became taller, stronger and lived longer.isam said:
The competition for low wage jobs doesn't help the problem in your opening paragraph. But big corporates cant make huge profits without such exploitationstodge said:
This isn't just about homelessness or rough sleeping but about the quality of life for thousands of people. It shouldn't be acceptable in 2019 in the UK for families to live in one room - it shouldn't be acceptable for 20 or more people to live in a 3-bedroom suburban semi and it shouldn't be people for people to be caged up in a modern day workhouse like Terminus House.DavidL said:The official figures on homelessness don't show any surge at all: https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/statutory-homelessness
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
We need a similar approach in the 21st Century with capitalism leading the way on tackling climate change, addiction and mental health. I'd start by reducing working hours and ending the "long hours" culture which is fuelled by drug use and/or poor diet. If we worked less and lived a little more, I think we'd all be better off.0 -
I wonder what the Brexit Party and UKIP think of each other.0
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They are jovial easy going types who aren't easily wound up. I am sure they roll along just fine.logical_song said:I wonder what the Brexit Party and UKIP think of each other.
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Splitterslogical_song said:I wonder what the Brexit Party and UKIP think of each other.
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I mentioned on the last thread and repeat for relevance, the mighty SDP have ruled out standing in the euros so that's 0.1% the Brexit party can get. Patrick OFlynn will be the PPC for any Peterborough by election0
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I don’t understand how labour can want to tie us in to a customs union that basically keeps us out of EU international trade deals but gives third parties tariff free access to our markets effectively making us poorer and killing our exports . And they want it enshrining in international law so we can’t reassess ! Bonkers, if the tories agree to this UK is finished0
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Its not just Easter Bunnies that are racist...
Burger King remove 'racist' chopsticks ad
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Huge applause for people’s vote campaigner demanding a people’s vote at a people’s vote rally? Now I’ve heard everything.williamglenn said:0 -
People’s front of Judea etc.logical_song said:I wonder what the Brexit Party and UKIP think of each other.
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A reporter has asked them how many years do they think it will take before the UK comes begging to be let back in. Macron has answered in sign language.williamglenn said:Long delay it is.
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I don't know what it's like round your bit but there aren't many Romanian rough sleepers in Glasgow. To use a favourite Brexitty right trope, why would they come over here to take advantage of the UK benefit system then make it much harder for themselves to do so?DavidL said:
I think what we are seeing is more rough sleeping, as Richard mentioned earlier. It is a lot more obvious than people in overcrowded conditions or sofa surfing. It has clearly increased since Romania joined the EU and we received a lot more professional beggars than we had before.The_Woodpecker said:
And yet the evidence of our own eyes tells us a completely different story.DavidL said:The official figures on homelessness don't show any surge at all: https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/statutory-homelessness
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
In any case, as suggested in the recent 60 Days On The Streets programme, Glasgow at least seems to have made a dent in rough sleeping compared to other places.
'But after arriving during the coldest part of winter, what he found waiting for him on the streets of Glasgow took him by surprise.
“It was really positive, he explains. “There was a bed first policy and so many positive things going on, including the joined-up thinking and how all the organisations talk to each other. There was even an organisation that was set up to allow the different, fragmented organisations set up for homeless people to communicate with each other...
“There was more examples of people with their cases being solved, due to the progressive policies up in Scotland. I think it will be a bit of a light at the end of quite a dark tunnel in terms of the first two episodes. There was a lot that English local authorities and charities could learn from in the way things are being done.” '
https://tinyurl.com/y4mrmhto
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Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/11154988546133155840 -
The UK was finished the moment headbanging Brexiteers took control of the Tory Party and Corbyn took control of Labour.kjohnw said:I don’t understand how labour can want to tie us in to a customs union that basically keeps us out of EU international trade deals but gives third parties tariff free access to our markets effectively making us poorer and killing our exports . And they want it enshrining in international law so we can’t reassess ! Bonkers, if the tories agree to this UK is finished
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He's a Leaver, so it's actually significant.RobD said:
Huge applause for people’s vote campaigner demanding a people’s vote at a people’s vote rally? Now I’ve heard everything.williamglenn said:0 -
They're psychologically a big deal. If we have them chances are they serve a full term.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/1115498854613315584
And what does sitting them out achieve if that happens?0 -
I guess it is slightly more consistent than avowed Leave supporters voting down the WARobD said:
Huge applause for people’s vote campaigner demanding a people’s vote at a people’s vote rally? Now I’ve heard everything.williamglenn said:0 -
And allowing all the other parties election air time whilst you're shut out would be suicide, you're advertising a post Tory worldkle4 said:
They're psychologically a big deal. If we have them chances are they serve a full term.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/1115498854613315584
And what does sitting them out achieve if that happens?0 -
Guten Abend, meine Bruder.0
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Some might say the Tories tried that approached at the last GE and it didn't go very well...dyedwoolie said:
And allowing all the other parties election air time whilst you're shut out would be suicide, you're advertising a post Tory worldkle4 said:
They're psychologically a big deal. If we have them chances are they serve a full term.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/1115498854613315584
And what does sitting them out achieve if that happens?0 -
Good afternoon, comrade Dancer.Morris_Dancer said:Guten Abend, meine Bruder.
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That's what I said. Why are Con even bothering?Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
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They could have a party with the SDP in the not playing playgroundGIN1138 said:
That's what I said. Why are Con even bothering?Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/11154988546133155840 -
If the changes in the Welsh poll were replicated nationally, (and I expect in practice, support for the Brexit Party and Change UK would vary markedly by region), I'd expect a result along the lines of:-
Labour 25
Conservative 20
UKIP 7
Brexit 7
Green 5
Lib Dem 2
Change UK 1
SNP 2
Plaid 1
Northern Ireland 3
resulting in 38 pro-EU, 35 anti-EU MEP's.
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I reckon politicians mostly have a psychological disorder that would make it very difficult to step aside voluntarily and let others take power, no matter how little power and for how short a time.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
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Give the old biddies a chance to vote for another party? Dangerous. They might make a habit of it.GIN1138 said:
That's what I said. Why are Con even bothering?Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
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Thank you Alastair for an excellent thread.0
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D’Hondt is a form of PR albeit constrained by the confines of small constituency sizes.
In other elections, such as the upcoming Spanish elections, D'Hondt gives a proportional results in some large constituencies (like Madrid) and a disproportionate result (and particularly a small swing -> big change in result effect) elsewhere.
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Are we seriously doing this? Jeez.0
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Nowadays the SDP seem to have been taken over by a UKIP faction and have an ex UKIP MEP.dyedwoolie said:
They could have a party with the SDP in the not playing playgroundGIN1138 said:
That's what I said. Why are Con even bothering?Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/1115498854613315584
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-463571210 -
Channel 4 concedes Eurotrash reboot not going so wellNigel_Foremain said:
A reporter has asked them how many years do they think it will take before the UK comes begging to be let back in. Macron has answered in sign language.williamglenn said:Long delay it is.
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Lol @ LDs looking at 7th or 8th place0
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But if we allocated by D'Hondt nationally we'd get a practically proportional result. STV as in Northern Ireland is not very protonation in small constituencies.0
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Just to irritate the not-so-loyal DUP, they could model themselves on Sinn Fein and refuse to take their seats.GIN1138 said:
That's what I said. Why are Con even bothering?Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/11154988546133155840 -
Normally yes - but perhaps this is one to sit out and not be on tv talking about Europe..dyedwoolie said:
And allowing all the other parties election air time whilst you're shut out would be suicide, you're advertising a post Tory worldkle4 said:
They're psychologically a big deal. If we have them chances are they serve a full term.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/1115498854613315584
And what does sitting them out achieve if that happens?0 -
Mein surely.Morris_Dancer said:Guten Abend, meine Bruder.
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Owenites of the extreme. Rod Liddle backs them too.logical_song said:
Nowadays the SDP seem to have been taken over by a UKIP faction and have an ex UKIP MEP.dyedwoolie said:
They could have a party with the SDP in the not playing playgroundGIN1138 said:
That's what I said. Why are Con even bothering?Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/1115498854613315584
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46357121
No meps after this though as oflynn will instead concentrate on Peterborough0 -
My German is not all it might be, but shouldn't that be 'mein Brüder?'Morris_Dancer said:Guten Abend, meine Bruder.
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Alright PB, who is Perfidious Albion on Dope?Scott_P said:0 -
It's going to take a concerted multi-agency efforts where companies whose main raison d'etre is to avoid paying tax are cajoled or coerced into accepting a degree of civic responsibility.Stereotomy said:
How exactly are we going to get capitalism to "lead the way" on those issues?
Perhaps you might have some ideas to contribute or do you think we should just let capitalism run riot and damn the consequences?
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He gets around, doesn't he.dyedwoolie said:I mentioned on the last thread and repeat for relevance, the mighty SDP have ruled out standing in the euros so that's 0.1% the Brexit party can get. Patrick OFlynn will be the PPC for any Peterborough by election
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Peston needs to give up forecasting .
According to him in March before the last EU summit May would take the UK out on no deal .
The EU is more likely to give two options as it did last time . A short one and a longer flexible extension with conditions .0 -
Yes he likes a flit aboutlogical_song said:
He gets around, doesn't he.dyedwoolie said:I mentioned on the last thread and repeat for relevance, the mighty SDP have ruled out standing in the euros so that's 0.1% the Brexit party can get. Patrick OFlynn will be the PPC for any Peterborough by election
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Disappointing. It would have been interesting to see how much support they have. Are the TIGs intending to stand in the Euros?dyedwoolie said:I mentioned on the last thread and repeat for relevance, the mighty SDP have ruled out standing in the euros so that's 0.1% the Brexit party can get. Patrick OFlynn will be the PPC for any Peterborough by election
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Surely the main question is whether David Coburn will any longer bestride the national and international stage?0
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40% of London's rough sleepers are UK National'sTheuniondivvie said:Fpt
I don't know what it's like round your bit but there aren't many Romanian rough sleepers in Glasgow. To use a favourite Brexitty right trope, why would they come over here to take advantage of the UK benefit system then make it much harder for themselves to do so?DavidL said:
I think what we are seeing is more rough sleeping, as Richard mentioned earlier. It is a lot more obvious than people in overcrowded conditions or sofa surfing. It has clearly increased since Romania joined the EU and we received a lot more professional beggars than we had before.The_Woodpecker said:
And yet the evidence of our own eyes tells us a completely different story.DavidL said:The official figures on homelessness don't show any surge at all: https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/statutory-homelessness
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
In any case, as suggested in the recent 60 Days On The Streets programme, Glasgow at least seems to have made a dent in rough sleeping compared to other places.
'But after arriving during the coldest part of winter, what he found waiting for him on the streets of Glasgow took him by surprise.
“It was really positive, he explains. “There was a bed first policy and so many positive things going on, including the joined-up thinking and how all the organisations talk to each other. There was even an organisation that was set up to allow the different, fragmented organisations set up for homeless people to communicate with each other...
“There was more examples of people with their cases being solved, due to the progressive policies up in Scotland. I think it will be a bit of a light at the end of quite a dark tunnel in terms of the first two episodes. There was a lot that English local authorities and charities could learn from in the way things are being done.” '
https://tinyurl.com/y4mrmhto
https://www.nao.org.uk/naoblog/growing-number-of-rough-sleepers/0 -
So when the EU refuse an extension May could have responded with the Peter Cook/Dudley Moore version of "Goodbye" but Cooper/Letwin has made that illegal so it's revocation time.Nigel_Foremain said:
A reporter has asked them how many years do they think it will take before the UK comes begging to be let back in. Macron has answered in sign language.williamglenn said:Long delay it is.
https://twitter.com/frasernelson/status/1115607366903320576?s=210 -
I see the infamous Nazi Pug ex-youtuber "Count Dankula" is standing for Ukip in Scotland.Theuniondivvie said:Surely the main question is whether David Coburn will any longer bestride the national and international stage?
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Mein Bruder, singular. Meine Brüder, plural.ydoethur said:
My German is not all it might be, but shouldn't that be 'mein Brüder?'Morris_Dancer said:Guten Abend, meine Bruder.
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Not sure, but in this picture DD looks like he had a bad trip...RobD said:Alright PB, who is Perfidious Albion on Dope?
https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/11155528201351045120 -
Haha yes, I think the last 3 years prove your point very well!Chris said:
I reckon politicians mostly have a psychological disorder that would make it very difficult to step aside voluntarily and let others take power, no matter how little power and for how short a time.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/11154988546133155840 -
...and 80% of the UK's are UK nationals, as the link showed.isam said:
40% of London's rough sleepers are UK National'sTheuniondivvie said:Fpt
I don't know what it's like round your bit but there aren't many Romanian rough sleepers in Glasgow. To use a favourite Brexitty right trope, why would they come over here to take advantage of the UK benefit system then make it much harder for themselves to do so?DavidL said:
I think what we are seeing is more rough sleeping, as Richard mentioned earlier. It is a lot more obvious than people in overcrowded conditions or sofa surfing. It has clearly increased since Romania joined the EU and we received a lot more professional beggars than we had before.The_Woodpecker said:
And yet the evidence of our own eyes tells us a completely different story.DavidL said:The official figures on homelessness don't show any surge at all: https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/statutory-homelessness
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
In any case, as suggested in the recent 60 Days On The Streets programme, Glasgow at least seems to have made a dent in rough sleeping compared to other places.
'But after arriving during the coldest part of winter, what he found waiting for him on the streets of Glasgow took him by surprise.
“It was really positive, he explains. “There was a bed first policy and so many positive things going on, including the joined-up thinking and how all the organisations talk to each other. There was even an organisation that was set up to allow the different, fragmented organisations set up for homeless people to communicate with each other...
“There was more examples of people with their cases being solved, due to the progressive policies up in Scotland. I think it will be a bit of a light at the end of quite a dark tunnel in terms of the first two episodes. There was a lot that English local authorities and charities could learn from in the way things are being done.” '
https://tinyurl.com/y4mrmhto
https://www.nao.org.uk/naoblog/growing-number-of-rough-sleepers/
-Which might also explain why the rough sleepers in the west end at christmas appeared to be english people from outside London.0 -
That would make them a jolly good egg indeed.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Perfidious Albion on Acid.0
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Yep that's why they are becoming a party. To do soAndyJS said:
Disappointing. It would have been interesting to see how much support they have. Are the TIGs intending to stand in the Euros?dyedwoolie said:I mentioned on the last thread and repeat for relevance, the mighty SDP have ruled out standing in the euros so that's 0.1% the Brexit party can get. Patrick OFlynn will be the PPC for any Peterborough by election
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There's nobody on here who would ever say such a thing about the cheese eating wine guzzling sex crazed surrender monkeys.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
What % of the UK population are UK nationals?WhisperingOracle said:
...and 80% of the UK's are UK nationals, as the link showed.isam said:
40% of London's rough sleepers are UK National'sTheuniondivvie said:Fpt
I don't know what it's like round your bit but there aren't many Romanian rough sleepers in Glasgow. To use a favourite Brexitty right trope, why would they come over here to take advantage of the UK benefit system then make it much harder for themselves to do so?DavidL said:
I think what we are seeing is more rough sleeping, as Richard mentioned earlier. It is a lot more obvious than people in overcrowded conditions or sofa surfing. It has clearly increased since Romania joined the EU and we received a lot more professional beggars than we had before.The_Woodpecker said:
And yet the evidence of our own eyes tells us a completely different story.DavidL said:The official figures on homelessness don't show any surge at all: https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/statutory-homelessness
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
In any case, as suggested in the recent 60 Days On The Streets programme, Glasgow at least seems to have made a dent in rough sleeping compared to other places.
'But after arriving during the coldest part of winter, what he found waiting for him on the streets of Glasgow took him by surprise.
“It was really positive, he explains. “There was a bed first policy and so many positive things going on, including the joined-up thinking and how all the organisations talk to each other. There was even an organisation that was set up to allow the different, fragmented organisations set up for homeless people to communicate with each other...
“There was more examples of people with their cases being solved, due to the progressive policies up in Scotland. I think it will be a bit of a light at the end of quite a dark tunnel in terms of the first two episodes. There was a lot that English local authorities and charities could learn from in the way things are being done.” '
https://tinyurl.com/y4mrmhto
https://www.nao.org.uk/naoblog/growing-number-of-rough-sleepers/
-Which might also explain why the rough sleepers in the west end at christmas appeared to be english people from outside London.0 -
The disgraced former defence secretary and General Practitioner/wannabe trade expert, Liam Fox says CU is a bad idea.
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Right.williamglenn said:
Mein Bruder, singular. Meine Brüder, plural.ydoethur said:
My German is not all it might be, but shouldn't that be 'mein Brüder?'Morris_Dancer said:Guten Abend, meine Bruder.
So actually we were both wrong?0 -
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
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Can't believe the remainers lost the referendum with the reduction of everything to personalities.Nigel_Foremain said:The disgraced former defence secretary and General Practitioner/wannabe trade expert, Liam Fox says CU is a bad idea.
Must be good then.
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Let's hope you are right!stodge said:
So when the EU refuse an extension May could have responded with the Peter Cook/Dudley Moore version of "Goodbye" but Cooper/Letwin has made that illegal so it's revocation time.Nigel_Foremain said:
A reporter has asked them how many years do they think it will take before the UK comes begging to be let back in. Macron has answered in sign language.williamglenn said:Long delay it is.
https://twitter.com/frasernelson/status/1115607366903320576?s=21
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Is he standing? I think he (along with practically everyone else) fell out with UKIP last year.Theuniondivvie said:Surely the main question is whether David Coburn will any longer bestride the national and international stage?
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Being stuck inside one does seem to be a terrible idea. No wonder Corbyn is all for it.Nigel_Foremain said:The disgraced former defence secretary and General Practitioner/wannabe trade expert, Liam Fox says CU is a bad idea.
Must be good then.0 -
Isn't there something about three hour boozy lunches?ydoethur said:
There's nobody on here who would ever say such a thing about the cheese eating wine guzzling sex crazed surrender monkeys.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I don't really reckon alternate history as a genre, but I am going to write one just for you about WW2. The initial facts will be identical except that the English Channel was completely filled in in the 1930s in a mega Keynsian work creation scheme.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will not enjoy this book.0 -
Looks more like a disgraced national security risk to me.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
(Just to save TSE the effort and concomitant blood pressure spike.)0 -
There's a lot of Romanian beggars around the Royal Mile but there are also several white males who seem to be Scottish, usually with some drink/drug habit issues. Edinburgh maybe needs to learn a bit from Glasgow.isam said:
40% of London's rough sleepers are UK National'sTheuniondivvie said:Fpt
I don't know what it's like round your bit but there aren't many Romanian rough sleepers in Glasgow. To use a favourite Brexitty right trope, why would they come over here to take advantage of the UK benefit system then make it much harder for themselves to do so?DavidL said:
I think what we are seeing is more rough sleeping, as Richard mentioned earlier. It is a lot more obvious than people in overcrowded conditions or sofa surfing. It has clearly increased since Romania joined the EU and we received a lot more professional beggars than we had before.The_Woodpecker said:
And yet the evidence of our own eyes tells us a completely different story.DavidL said:The official figures on homelessness don't show any surge at all: https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/statutory-homelessness
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
In any case, as suggested in the recent 60 Days On The Streets programme, Glasgow at least seems to have made a dent in rough sleeping compared to other places.
'But after arriving during the coldest part of winter, what he found waiting for him on the streets of Glasgow took him by surprise.
“It was really positive, he explains. “There was a bed first policy and so many positive things going on, including the joined-up thinking and how all the organisations talk to each other. There was even an organisation that was set up to allow the different, fragmented organisations set up for homeless people to communicate with each other...
“There was more examples of people with their cases being solved, due to the progressive policies up in Scotland. I think it will be a bit of a light at the end of quite a dark tunnel in terms of the first two episodes. There was a lot that English local authorities and charities could learn from in the way things are being done.” '
https://tinyurl.com/y4mrmhto
https://www.nao.org.uk/naoblog/growing-number-of-rough-sleepers/0 -
Yes, my thinking exactly. Who cares what MEPs we send to enjoy their expense allowances in Brussels and Strasbourg for a few months? And why should the EU care - other MEPs can always take their headphones off and play Fortnite on their smartphones while some British headbanger rants.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
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Flag of the Board of Trade.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
Liam Fox is also President of the Board of Trade.
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Is there? Where do I sign up?MarqueeMark said:
Isn't there something about three hour boozy lunches?ydoethur said:
There's nobody on here who would ever say such a thing about the cheese eating wine guzzling sex crazed surrender monkeys.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
He's in the Brexit Party now. I doubt Coburn could resist a last hurrah of media attention which I assume he'd get as an incumbent.DavidL said:
Is he standing? I think he (along with practically everyone else) fell out with UKIP last year.Theuniondivvie said:Surely the main question is whether David Coburn will any longer bestride the national and international stage?
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Na, not sure we actually lost. It's very marginal nature and the pernicious influence of at least one hostile foreign power and all that, somewhat calls it into question.TGOHF said:
Can't believe the remainers lost the referendum with the reduction of everything to personalities.Nigel_Foremain said:The disgraced former defence secretary and General Practitioner/wannabe trade expert, Liam Fox says CU is a bad idea.
Must be good then.
Also, as I said the other day if Leavers had been a little more dignified in their marginal victory, rather than gloating, they might have taken the moral high ground. Your post is yet another example as to why they didn't, and why they did not. Too late now, as they never will.0 -
Cheers. Was Fox going for an Elizabeth I vibe here?TheScreamingEagles said:
Flag of the Board of Trade.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
Liam Fox is also President of the Board of Trade.0 -
Sounds like seditious talk to me.Ishmael_Z said:
I don't really reckon alternate history as a genre, but I am going to write one just for you about WW2. The initial facts will be identical except that the English Channel was completely filled in in the 1930s in a mega Keynsian work creation scheme.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will not enjoy this book.0 -
Lovely line from Matt Hancock on the Beeb:
'voting Conservative “used to be something people started to think about doing when they got their first paycheck – now it’s when they get their first winter fuel allowance.”
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Ah yes, it was the Russians wot lost it. Not the rather mediocre product that Remain was trying sell.Nigel_Foremain said:
Na, not sure we actually lost. It's very marginal nature and the pernicious influence of at least one hostile foreign power and all that, somewhat calls it into question.TGOHF said:
Can't believe the remainers lost the referendum with the reduction of everything to personalities.Nigel_Foremain said:The disgraced former defence secretary and General Practitioner/wannabe trade expert, Liam Fox says CU is a bad idea.
Must be good then.
Also, as I said the other day if Leavers had been a little more dignified in their marginal victory, rather than gloating, they might have taken the moral high ground. Your post is yet another example as to why they didn't, and why they did not. Too late now, as they never will.0 -
It is difficult to see why anyone would make the effort to vote Tory if there are to be EU elections. What would you be trying to say? Hurrah for creating another 9 months of internal backbiting and recrimination, continued uncertainty for business and the frazzled populace and conceivably a customs union based Brexit that negates the advantages of Brexit.0
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He's certainly virgin on the ridiculous.RobD said:
Cheers. Was Fox going for an Elizabeth I vibe here?TheScreamingEagles said:
Flag of the Board of Trade.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
Liam Fox is also President of the Board of Trade.0 -
Apologies for the absence of an umlaut, bit of a pain to do.
On gender, I once provoked a marvellously exasperated expression from my German Lehrer when I asked if a brother who had a sex change operation would be a Bruderin.0 -
Ludicrous! I am wondering when Lord Sugar will become President of the BMA Council.TheScreamingEagles said:
Flag of the Board of Trade.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
Liam Fox is also President of the Board of Trade.0 -
You’re a machineydoethur said:
He's certainly virgin on the ridiculous.RobD said:
Cheers. Was Fox going for an Elizabeth I vibe here?TheScreamingEagles said:
Flag of the Board of Trade.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
Liam Fox is also President of the Board of Trade.0 -
Psychologically it might have sent a strong message to the ERG types.kle4 said:
They're psychologically a big deal. If we have them chances are they serve a full term.Tissue_Price said:Interesting idea from Prof Cowley:
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/1115498854613315584
And what does sitting them out achieve if that happens?0 -
Mr. Doethur, that's a bit ruff.0
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Really, Mr D, we agreed to keep that private...RobD said:
You’re a machineydoethur said:
He's certainly virgin on the ridiculous.RobD said:
Cheers. Was Fox going for an Elizabeth I vibe here?TheScreamingEagles said:
Flag of the Board of Trade.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
Liam Fox is also President of the Board of Trade.0 -
Well there's another reason ...Nigel_Foremain said:
Na, not sure we actually lost.TGOHF said:
Can't believe the remainers lost the referendum with the reduction of everything to personalities.Nigel_Foremain said:The disgraced former defence secretary and General Practitioner/wannabe trade expert, Liam Fox says CU is a bad idea.
Must be good then.0 -
There may have been an equally heroic evacuation of the BEF carried out by milk floats & wheelbarrows across the plain of Dunkerque. Unfortunately they were all squashed by Panzers 10 miles from Dover.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sounds like seditious talk to me.Ishmael_Z said:
I don't really reckon alternate history as a genre, but I am going to write one just for you about WW2. The initial facts will be identical except that the English Channel was completely filled in in the 1930s in a mega Keynsian work creation scheme.TheScreamingEagles said:
You will not enjoy this book.0 -
ydoethur said:
Really, Mr D, we agreed to keep that private...RobD said:
You’re a machineydoethur said:
He's certainly virgin on the ridiculous.RobD said:
Cheers. Was Fox going for an Elizabeth I vibe here?TheScreamingEagles said:
Flag of the Board of Trade.RobD said:
Interesting. Is that a ministerial flag?williamglenn said:Perfidious Albion on Acid.
Liam Fox is also President of the Board of Trade.0