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I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
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Does he get to buy Debenhams for a pound in a month's time ?TGOHF said:
Nice to hear Mike Ashley has lost £150m worth of shares.ydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
While I enjoy playing games with the “Microsoft Support” people, it’s not funny for those who fall for their scam and I’ve spent quite a bit of time professionally cleaning up the mess they leave behind.OldKingCole said:
Sounds good. Friend of mine has Sky and when she's phoned by someone for the first time the system cuts in and asks for the callers number. If she approves it, fine, and after that one's gets through without problem.Andrew said:
I used to have this too, drove me nuts. Solution was a landline phone with built-in call blocker - mine is a BT 8500 but presumably there are lots of others.OldKingCole said:
Thanks; I'll try that. They seem to use a variety of numbers, too, which makes blocking difficult.
What it does is when anyone calls from a number not on my contact list, the phone picks up and asks for them to hit number X. Since scammers all use robo-diallers, they can't get past this stage and the call eventually get dropped without ever bothering me (it never even rings). Now the coldcallers never get through.
A relative by marriage was silly enough to follow through on a 'Microsoft Technical' call and it cost him a couple of hundred pounds to 'de-virus' his computer. Trouble was, the caller sounded OK, and my relative is a bit deaf.
After keeping them on the line for as long as possible, I usually finish by asking them if their mother is proud of them preying on old and vulnerable people. If it makes one of them think for a minute I’d be happy.0 -
First of all no she won't. People have been forecasting May's comeuppance for years now and so far nada. Plus anyway if she gets a deal she will by her own volition step down. And secondly I don't think anyone (apart from us on PB) tracks what on earth any politician has said about what flavour of Brexit we could have.MarqueeMark said:
But if you tell voters that you will have a Brexit bonus that you are investing in the NHS - then spend that Brexit bonus, not on the NHS, but on paying the EU for Corbyn's wanky CU - May will discover in short shrift how that plays.....TOPPING said:
It is leaving the EU. That was the question. I know it was three years ago but let's try to focus on the verifiable facts.MarqueeMark said:
If you end up spending damn near as much for the CU as you did in membership, then that is damn near as good as reversing the referendum result......TOPPING said:
Weren't we talking about a customs union, or what Nick Boles suggested CM2.0? Nothing to do with reversing the referendum result.Richard_Tyndall said:
Indeed. The overwhelming majority of MPs at the last election made statements as part of their campaign explicitly saying they would not reverse the referendum result.isam said:0 -
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
On the face of it, it was a generous offer. I guess that the problem was that they hate Ashley.malcolmg said:
They should have taken Ashley's offerSean_F said:
I do. I've always thought they were pretty good. It's a pity to see them go.FrancisUrquhart said:
Who shops in Debenhams these days?ydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
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They still have c&a too, my employers when I was a sixth former.malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Mr. Sandpit, yeah, they're reprehensible scammers.
I cunningly foiled one by being incredibly sleepy, and so annoyed the Indian lady by asking questions that she hung up on me.0 -
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There's a mountain of pick and mix somewhere all rotting and sadFrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Seeing as he only needed 28.6% of the remaining shareholding to vote with him, they really must have !Sean_F said:
On the face of it, it was a generous offer. I guess that the problem was that they hate Ashley.malcolmg said:
They should have taken Ashley's offerSean_F said:
I do. I've always thought they were pretty good. It's a pity to see them go.FrancisUrquhart said:
Who shops in Debenhams these days?ydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
A customs union is such an awful idea
https://order-order.com/2019/04/09/liam-fox-writes-conservative-party-customs/?shared=email&msg=fail#0 -
Doesn't everyone?Sean_F said:
On the face of it, it was a generous offer. I guess that the problem was that they hate Ashley.malcolmg said:
They should have taken Ashley's offerSean_F said:
I do. I've always thought they were pretty good. It's a pity to see them go.FrancisUrquhart said:
Who shops in Debenhams these days?ydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
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Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.0
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Always thinking outside the box! 👍🏻Tissue_Price said:
Seems harsh for a Mere collision.isam said:0 -
There will be no Brexit bonus. Even if we are stupid enough to crash out without a deal we will still end up coughing up what we owe under international treaty obligations. We can only be a pariah state for so long.MarqueeMark said:
But if you tell voters that you will have a Brexit bonus that you are investing in the NHS - then spend that Brexit bonus, not on the NHS, but on paying the EU for Corbyn's wanky CU - May will discover in short shrift how that plays.....TOPPING said:
It is leaving the EU. That was the question. I know it was three years ago but let's try to focus on the verifiable facts.MarqueeMark said:
If you end up spending damn near as much for the CU as you did in membership, then that is damn near as good as reversing the referendum result......TOPPING said:
Weren't we talking about a customs union, or what Nick Boles suggested CM2.0? Nothing to do with reversing the referendum result.Richard_Tyndall said:
Indeed. The overwhelming majority of MPs at the last election made statements as part of their campaign explicitly saying they would not reverse the referendum result.isam said:0 -
There are people who make a successful Youtube career out of doing thatSandpit said:
While I enjoy playing games with the “Microsoft Support” people, it’s not funny for those who fall for their scam and I’ve spent quite a bit of time professionally cleaning up the mess they leave behind.OldKingCole said:
Sounds good. Friend of mine has Sky and when she's phoned by someone for the first time the system cuts in and asks for the callers number. If she approves it, fine, and after that one's gets through without problem.Andrew said:
I used to have this too, drove me nuts. Solution was a landline phone with built-in call blocker - mine is a BT 8500 but presumably there are lots of others.OldKingCole said:
Thanks; I'll try that. They seem to use a variety of numbers, too, which makes blocking difficult.
What it does is when anyone calls from a number not on my contact list, the phone picks up and asks for them to hit number X. Since scammers all use robo-diallers, they can't get past this stage and the call eventually get dropped without ever bothering me (it never even rings). Now the coldcallers never get through.
A relative by marriage was silly enough to follow through on a 'Microsoft Technical' call and it cost him a couple of hundred pounds to 'de-virus' his computer. Trouble was, the caller sounded OK, and my relative is a bit deaf.
After keeping them on the line for as long as possible, I usually finish by asking them if their mother is proud of them preying on old and vulnerable people. If it makes one of them think for a minute I’d be happy.0 -
According to the article they are still trading for the moment,IanB2 said:
I ordered something from them yesterday via Amazon. Guess it isn't going to arrive now?ydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Sounds like an even bigger upside to me.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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Yep they really are that thick.TheScreamingEagles said:
Given the EU - America trade war that is about to kick off regarding Airbus I really do wonder how things will play out.0 -
True and both very good for various things.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
House of Fraser continued trading but that didn't mean people got the goods they had paid for prior to the administration...ydoethur said:
According to the article they are still trading for the moment,IanB2 said:
I ordered something from them yesterday via Amazon. Guess it isn't going to arrive now?ydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Yes I passed that one as well.dyedwoolie said:
They still have c&a too, my employers when I was a sixth former.malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
They are worrying about nothing.. Labour's magic Customs Union includes the unique feature of the UK having a say in the EU's trade deals. What could possibly be the problem with that?NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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“Coats and ‘Ats” is a Dutch company I believe. Woolies is still going strong in Oz and South Africa as well, but its overseas branches were long ago sold off separately by the US parent which itself failed about two decades ago.dyedwoolie said:
They still have c&a too, my employers when I was a sixth former.malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Guido's take on this has been very instructive. No fan of May's approach at all, nor scared of no deal, but far more pragmatic in the face of the parliament we have.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
There is a brilliant book about how mechanisation is about to usher in the post work world. It is called The Soul of Man Under Socialism - Oscar Wilde, 1891.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
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As European as apfel strudelmalcolmg said:
Yes I passed that one as well.dyedwoolie said:
They still have c&a too, my employers when I was a sixth former.malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Once I asked lots of questions and said my computer was starting up. After wasting some of his time, while I made a coffee I asked him why he didn't get a proper job and stopped trying to rip people off. He asked me to repeat and then started swearing when I did. I couldn't help laughing. But it's rarely worth doing anything other than hanging up. Most of my landline calls are scams nowadays, many of them recorded (including the 'BT' ones), it's rare to get a real person.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, yeah, they're reprehensible scammers.
I cunningly foiled one by being incredibly sleepy, and so annoyed the Indian lady by asking questions that she hung up on me.0 -
A few years ago went of a cricket watching tour to India, and watched the English language TV channels sometimes. There was an on going series about a young graduate learning to be a call-centre operator, and how proud he was when he got the job.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, yeah, they're reprehensible scammers.
I cunningly foiled one by being incredibly sleepy, and so annoyed the Indian lady by asking questions that she hung up on me.
It was very, very sad in places. He was trying to tell a suspicious Scots lady at one point that his name really was Andrew, and he was 'just down the lock' from you.0 -
I can usually get them to about 15 minutes before they start to smell a rat, if I’m not working on something when they call I’ll play games by setting up a sandboxed Windows virtual machine on a Mac and let them try and dial into that, or just talking them through a non-existent computer, remembering a long list of instructions before saying I’ll remember to do that when I get in front of the computer tonight.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, yeah, they're reprehensible scammers.
I cunningly foiled one by being incredibly sleepy, and so annoyed the Indian lady by asking questions that she hung up on me.
I’m sure I’ve managed to get a few companies I’ve worked for removed from their lists, by passing them around the IT department playing games with them. If they’re speaking to IT guys then they’re not speaking to my mum and not making any money.0 -
It's incredible no one big resigned over opening the talks. To manage to reach agreement with the opposition without anyone resigning is surely impossible.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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Apparently Peter Bone is asking why Her Majesty is being "drawn into this" by giving Royal Assent. Is this a hoax, or is he somebody who should have married Ms Head in order to fully win the most Appropriate Name of the Year Award0
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This is a somewhat difficult question because they didn't really have any red lines beyond the six tests, which are impossible to meet.kle4 said:
What red lines of theirs are they ditching?Scott_P said:
However, unless you subscribe to the theory some people here have that everything Labour does is part of a 12-dimsensional chess strategy to get to No Deal so that Corbyn can become Supreme Leader for life (which Starmer, Cooper, et. al. are inexplicably going along with), they've shown far more flexibility and willingness to compromise in the indicative votes than May did. Either May's Deal + CU or May's Deal + confirmatory referendum could have made it through parliament with Labour's support.0 -
Indeed Dutch, named for Clemens and August the brothers who founded it.rpjs said:
“Coats and ‘Ats” is a Dutch company I believe. Woolies is still going strong in Oz and South Africa as well, but its overseas branches were long ago sold off separately by the US parent which itself failed about two decades ago.dyedwoolie said:
They still have c&a too, my employers when I was a sixth former.malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47864580
I worked there for 2 years without cottoning on that the Canda range was not the Canada range but c and a, like the shop. The one I worked for. Lol0 -
Talking of scams I've been getting the recorded message HMRC one lately a lot. Annoying0
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I have on occasion thought about setting myself up to record the interactions, but it’s a legal grey area (outside the USA) to post them online rather then send privately to local police.Stereotomy said:
There are people who make a successful Youtube career out of doing thatSandpit said:
While I enjoy playing games with the “Microsoft Support” people, it’s not funny for those who fall for their scam and I’ve spent quite a bit of time professionally cleaning up the mess they leave behind.OldKingCole said:
Sounds good. Friend of mine has Sky and when she's phoned by someone for the first time the system cuts in and asks for the callers number. If she approves it, fine, and after that one's gets through without problem.Andrew said:
I used to have this too, drove me nuts. Solution was a landline phone with built-in call blocker - mine is a BT 8500 but presumably there are lots of others.OldKingCole said:
Thanks; I'll try that. They seem to use a variety of numbers, too, which makes blocking difficult.
What it does is when anyone calls from a number not on my contact list, the phone picks up and asks for them to hit number X. Since scammers all use robo-diallers, they can't get past this stage and the call eventually get dropped without ever bothering me (it never even rings). Now the coldcallers never get through.
A relative by marriage was silly enough to follow through on a 'Microsoft Technical' call and it cost him a couple of hundred pounds to 'de-virus' his computer. Trouble was, the caller sounded OK, and my relative is a bit deaf.
After keeping them on the line for as long as possible, I usually finish by asking them if their mother is proud of them preying on old and vulnerable people. If it makes one of them think for a minute I’d be happy.0 -
Are they having beer and sandwiches?dyedwoolie said:Hmmmm Tories and labour having an informal lunch followed by negotiation session. Sounds dealish to me..........
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I've posted before that he went, albeit later, to the school which I did. I always had my suspicions about the people who left to become accountants.Nigel_Foremain said:Apparently Peter Bone is asking why Her Majesty is being "drawn into this" by giving Royal Assent. Is this a hoax, or is he somebody who should have married Ms Head in order to fully win the most Appropriate Name of the Year Award
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If you were going to game this as No 10, you'd want a couple of resignations when the CU deal comes into view in order to make the optics look as if Labour was getting places.kle4 said:
It's incredible no one big resigned over opening the talks. To manage to reach agreement with the opposition without anyone resigning is surely impossible.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
Well that's how I'd plan it anyway.0 -
I think we already have a Fysh Bone Party within a party.Nigel_Foremain said:Apparently Peter Bone is asking why Her Majesty is being "drawn into this" by giving Royal Assent. Is this a hoax, or is he somebody who should have married Ms Head in order to fully win the most Appropriate Name of the Year Award
The new 3RsTheScreamingEagles said:
Revoke
Resign
Retire (to HoL)
and the Maidenhead byelection naturally takes place at the end of May.0 -
There are 'big' people left on either side?kle4 said:
It's incredible no one big resigned over opening the talks. To manage to reach agreement with the opposition without anyone resigning is surely impossible.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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Who is she?isam said:0 -
I'm sure their profits largely come from people who are in some way vulnerable for one reason or another.OldKingCole said:
Sounds good. Friend of mine has Sky and when she's phoned by someone for the first time the system cuts in and asks for the callers number. If she approves it, fine, and after that one's gets through without problem.Andrew said:
I used to have this too, drove me nuts. Solution was a landline phone with built-in call blocker - mine is a BT 8500 but presumably there are lots of others.OldKingCole said:
Thanks; I'll try that. They seem to use a variety of numbers, too, which makes blocking difficult.
What it does is when anyone calls from a number not on my contact list, the phone picks up and asks for them to hit number X. Since scammers all use robo-diallers, they can't get past this stage and the call eventually get dropped without ever bothering me (it never even rings). Now the coldcallers never get through.
A relative by marriage was silly enough to follow through on a 'Microsoft Technical' call and it cost him a couple of hundred pounds to 'de-virus' his computer. Trouble was, the caller sounded OK, and my relative is a bit deaf.0 -
So from no extension to one that finishes no later than December 2019. Is apparently the latest Macron position .
Not sure why the UK media keeps pushing this no extension narrative . There’s zip chance the EU won’t agree to some form of extension .0 -
Boom-boom!rural_voter said:
I think we already have a Fysh Bone Party within a party.Nigel_Foremain said:Apparently Peter Bone is asking why Her Majesty is being "drawn into this" by giving Royal Assent. Is this a hoax, or is he somebody who should have married Ms Head in order to fully win the most Appropriate Name of the Year Award
The new 3RsTheScreamingEagles said:
Revoke
Resign
Retire (to HoL)
and the Maidenhead byelection naturally takes place at the end of May.0 -
What's not to like?NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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He is a good example of how someone can be professionally qualified while still being immensely stupid.OldKingCole said:
I've posted before that he went, albeit later, to the school which I did. I always had my suspicions about the people who left to become accountants.Nigel_Foremain said:Apparently Peter Bone is asking why Her Majesty is being "drawn into this" by giving Royal Assent. Is this a hoax, or is he somebody who should have married Ms Head in order to fully win the most Appropriate Name of the Year Award
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I don't think the Tories are polling worse than Labour on all domestic issues (eg the latest polls from Com Res and YouGov).TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Tweets that can probably be repeated tomorrow, the day after and for evvah.
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/1115571908165152769
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/11155724319372574730 -
I hope they have agreed on fudgerpjs said:
Are they having beer and sandwiches?dyedwoolie said:Hmmmm Tories and labour having an informal lunch followed by negotiation session. Sounds dealish to me..........
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But it would be a couple... of dozen.Pulpstar said:
If you were going to game this as No 10, you'd want a couple of resignations when the CU deal comes into view in order to make the optics look as if Labour was getting places.kle4 said:
It's incredible no one big resigned over opening the talks. To manage to reach agreement with the opposition without anyone resigning is surely impossible.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
Well that's how I'd plan it anyway.
That’s a big problem for the PM.0 -
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Sadly yes. They’re utter scumbags who know exactly what they’re doing.Chris said:
I'm sure their profits largely come from people who are in some way vulnerable for one reason or another.OldKingCole said:
Sounds good. Friend of mine has Sky and when she's phoned by someone for the first time the system cuts in and asks for the callers number. If she approves it, fine, and after that one's gets through without problem.Andrew said:
I used to have this too, drove me nuts. Solution was a landline phone with built-in call blocker - mine is a BT 8500 but presumably there are lots of others.OldKingCole said:
Thanks; I'll try that. They seem to use a variety of numbers, too, which makes blocking difficult.
What it does is when anyone calls from a number not on my contact list, the phone picks up and asks for them to hit number X. Since scammers all use robo-diallers, they can't get past this stage and the call eventually get dropped without ever bothering me (it never even rings). Now the coldcallers never get through.
A relative by marriage was silly enough to follow through on a 'Microsoft Technical' call and it cost him a couple of hundred pounds to 'de-virus' his computer. Trouble was, the caller sounded OK, and my relative is a bit deaf.0 -
Re, polling for the EU referendum polling, it was striking by how much the polling diverged in 2015 and 2016. While the MORI lead of 44% for Remain was an outlier, there were several 20% + Leads for Remain, and a few double-digit leads for Leave.0 -
By virtue of position only.ydoethur said:
There are 'big' people left on either side?kle4 said:
It's incredible no one big resigned over opening the talks. To manage to reach agreement with the opposition without anyone resigning is surely impossible.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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If you lose claim irregularities - in a vote you previously stated was perfectly managed.
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All the remaining Brexiteers except for Gove will resign I think... Theresa May's future depends on what Hunt and Javid do.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
So have I.dyedwoolie said:Talking of scams I've been getting the recorded message HMRC one lately a lot. Annoying
I block the number each time under BT protect and have spoken to them. They are monitoring the blocked calls and asked to ring 0800 661 441 if it continues. To be fair since contacting BT the calls have stopped for now
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They are very profitable. Year on year revenue and profit growth for past 10 years.OblitusSumMe said:
B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Straight out of the aspiring despots playbook. While you are still pretty popular you can get away with iteek said:If you lose claim irregularities - in a vote you previously stated was perfectly managed.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/11155725198709145600 -
UK likely to be offered Brexit extension until end of year
Barnier implored EU ministers meeting in Luxembourg to keep the pressure on MPs to back the deal by supporting May’s request for a Brexit delay only up until 30 June, a leaked diplomatic note of the debate reveals.
But, according to the note seen by the Guardian, there is instead growing support for the idea of a lengthy extension, with around nine months looking likely. None of the EU27 ruled out such a delay, instead insisting on a “mechanism” to keep check on the British government’s behaviour.
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Thanks, will try thatBig_G_NorthWales said:
So have I.dyedwoolie said:Talking of scams I've been getting the recorded message HMRC one lately a lot. Annoying
I block the number each time under BT protect and have spoken to them. They are monitoring the blocked calls and asked to ring 0800 661 441 if it continues. To be fair since contacting BT the calls have stopped for now
Hope this helps0 -
Bridgen Morris and Francois. As wrong as Robert Peston.Theuniondivvie said:Tweets that can probably be repeated tomorrow, the day after and for evvah.
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/1115571908165152769
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/11155724319372574730 -
Well it is Barniers deal not just Mays'. I wouldn't be surprised if it is better for him if it passes and he like May has false hope for it. But the 27 are not fools, they know it's dead.WhisperingOracle said:
UK likely to be offered Brexit extension until end of year
Barnier implored EU ministers meeting in Luxembourg to keep the pressure on MPs to back the deal by supporting May’s request for a Brexit delay only up until 30 June, a leaked diplomatic note of the debate reveals.
But, according to the note seen by the Guardian, there is instead growing support for the idea of a lengthy extension, with around nine months looking likely. None of the EU27 ruled out such a delay, instead insisting on a “mechanism” to keep check on the British government’s behaviour.0 -
I'm not sure the voters were sure what they were voting for. Of course, there should be a 'confirmatory' vote to check.eek said:If you lose claim irregularities - in a vote you previously stated was perfectly managed.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/11155725198709145600 -
what in battleships games? Private Francois is really powering ahead in the Brexit Bell-end league table.Theuniondivvie said:Tweets that can probably be repeated tomorrow, the day after and for evvah.
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/1115571908165152769
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/11155724319372574730 -
There's joy in a Tesco?OblitusSumMe said:
B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
It's a competitive field, and the stakes were raised by Brexit hard man Steve Baker.Scrapheap_as_was said:
what in battleships games? Private Francois is really powering ahead in the Brexit Bell-end league table.Theuniondivvie said:Tweets that can probably be repeated tomorrow, the day after and for evvah.
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/1115571908165152769
https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/11155724319372574730 -
One of the cashiers in Colchester.kle4 said:
There's joy in a Tesco?OblitusSumMe said:
B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
TM has no future by her own admission and that is why she has freedom to seek national unityGIN1138 said:
All the remaining Brexiteers except for Gove will resign I think... Theresa May's future depends on what Hunt and Javid do.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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Personally I am glad for all these down market establishments, it means I can buy my unicorn poop from Waitrose in peace.kle4 said:
There's joy in a Tesco?OblitusSumMe said:
B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Yes, it does, especially with the participants: Philip Jammond, John McDonnell, Michael Gove, David Lidington,Stephen Barclay, Greg Clark, and Julian Smith, the chief whip. All of those apart from Gove and Simth (who are at heart pragmatists) are in varying degrees identified with the Remain/soft Brexit spectrum.TOPPING said:
beer and sandwiches?dyedwoolie said:Hmmmm Tories and labour having an informal lunch followed by negotiation session. Sounds dealish to me..........
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That Nick didn't mention Grayling?Chris said:
What's not to like?NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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Tesco "Value" range has been rebranded "T. E. Stockwell & Co."OblitusSumMe said:
B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47864580
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Good luck with that if over half her Cabinet resigns.Big_G_NorthWales said:
TM has no future by her own admission and that is why she has freedom to seek national unityGIN1138 said:
All the remaining Brexiteers except for Gove will resign I think... Theresa May's future depends on what Hunt and Javid do.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
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Here and now such an idea seems longer than 25/1. But as day after day ticks by and we have literally nothing at all new to offer the EU plus a new law forbidding no deal, what options will May have if the EU summit regrettably restates their position of a few weeks ago?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Any mechanism will be unenforceable if the UK remain a member with MEPS no matter how the EU try to restrict itWhisperingOracle said:
UK likely to be offered Brexit extension until end of year
Barnier implored EU ministers meeting in Luxembourg to keep the pressure on MPs to back the deal by supporting May’s request for a Brexit delay only up until 30 June, a leaked diplomatic note of the debate reveals.
But, according to the note seen by the Guardian, there is instead growing support for the idea of a lengthy extension, with around nine months looking likely. None of the EU27 ruled out such a delay, instead insisting on a “mechanism” to keep check on the British government’s behaviour.0 -
Wouldn't know, never been in a waitrose in my life. An M and S foods opened recently and people are very excited though.FrancisUrquhart said:
Personally I am glad for all these down market establishments, it means I can buy my unicorn poop from Waitrose in peace.kle4 said:
There's joy in a Tesco?OblitusSumMe said:
B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47864580
My main gripe with Tesco's is the ring doughnuts decreased in size a couple of months ago. Outrageous.0 -
Gives just enough time to get rid of May, get a Brexiteer Con leader, hold a general election to elect a new Parliament and then leave on NYE!WhisperingOracle said:
UK likely to be offered Brexit extension until end of year
Barnier implored EU ministers meeting in Luxembourg to keep the pressure on MPs to back the deal by supporting May’s request for a Brexit delay only up until 30 June, a leaked diplomatic note of the debate reveals.
But, according to the note seen by the Guardian, there is instead growing support for the idea of a lengthy extension, with around nine months looking likely. None of the EU27 ruled out such a delay, instead insisting on a “mechanism” to keep check on the British government’s behaviour. 0 -
The Tories really should get rid of May. How can Labour deal with them when they know she'll be succeeded immediately ?GIN1138 said:
Gives just enough time to get rid of May, get a Brexiteer Con leader, hold a general election to elect a new Parliament and then leave on NYE!WhisperingOracle said:
UK likely to be offered Brexit extension until end of year
Barnier implored EU ministers meeting in Luxembourg to keep the pressure on MPs to back the deal by supporting May’s request for a Brexit delay only up until 30 June, a leaked diplomatic note of the debate reveals.
But, according to the note seen by the Guardian, there is instead growing support for the idea of a lengthy extension, with around nine months looking likely. None of the EU27 ruled out such a delay, instead insisting on a “mechanism” to keep check on the British government’s behaviour.0 -
Everything is relative.kle4 said:
There's joy in a Tesco?OblitusSumMe said:
B&M is like a Tesco, but with the food/non-food balance reversed and all the joy sucked out. I'm amazed they're still in business.FrancisUrquhart said:
B&M and Wilcos have since grown massively and are basically Woolies, minus trying to flog stuff like CDs / DVDs / Books (which was killing Woolies).malcolmg said:
I passed a Woolworths yesterday , they have survived in the EU. Says it all really.dyedwoolie said:
Indeed. It's all online now. And all mechanized etc. We will need universal income within the decade, we are entering the post work world. City centres will revert to primarily residentialMarqueeMark said:
Sadly true. But then, much retail is 2019 Woolies.....dyedwoolie said:
Its 2019s Wooliesydoethur said:Debenham's creditors have taken possession of the business:
Debenhams falls into hands of lenders
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-478645800 -
Telegraph caught lying about People's Vote march attendance numbers https://www.london.gov.uk/questions/2019/40640
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Afternoon all
Have to say I'm still not sure what the point of Cooper-Letwin was or is. Given May has said she will not accept No Deal, placing the fact she won't in law seems pointless in extremis.
Were we dealing with a PM actively seeking No Deal, I'd get it but May has never been that PM so I don't see why parliament has needed to do what it has done. In any case, the power to grant an extension isn't the UK's in isolation but rests with the EU. IF the EU refuse an extension, May cannot move to No Deal because she is legally unable so to do so she would be forced to revoke with all the political consequences that would flow.
On a completely unrelated, one of the biggest issues in the country is housing and this doesn't help:
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/property-guardian-company-prosecuted-over-former-care-home-where-more-than-30-guardians-lived-with-one-kitchen/
Through schemes like this and the ruthless exploitation by landlords and others of (very often) migrant workers, we have created new slums with more than 20 people living in two or three bedroom semis. On a wider level, this also shames capitalism and the economic model. The exploitation and degradation of individuals in the name of profit shames our society - we must rigorously pursue the individuals responsible and bring them to book but it also forces us to ask questions whether the profit motive and "making money" is as important as it seems to so many.
I worked out a long time it's better to work to live than to live to work.0 -
In a Brexit's dreams. In reality we will continue to an inevitable revocation and the impulsion of the Tory party.GIN1138 said:
Gives just enough time to get rid of May, get a Brexiteer Con leader, hold a general election to elect a new Parliament and then leave on NYE!WhisperingOracle said:
UK likely to be offered Brexit extension until end of year
Barnier implored EU ministers meeting in Luxembourg to keep the pressure on MPs to back the deal by supporting May’s request for a Brexit delay only up until 30 June, a leaked diplomatic note of the debate reveals.
But, according to the note seen by the Guardian, there is instead growing support for the idea of a lengthy extension, with around nine months looking likely. None of the EU27 ruled out such a delay, instead insisting on a “mechanism” to keep check on the British government’s behaviour.0 -
Field Marshal Francois.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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Frankly I am past caring.GIN1138 said:
Good luck with that if over half her Cabinet resigns.Big_G_NorthWales said:
TM has no future by her own admission and that is why she has freedom to seek national unityGIN1138 said:
All the remaining Brexiteers except for Gove will resign I think... Theresa May's future depends on what Hunt and Javid do.NickPalmer said:Fox and Leadsom both seem to have moved to a position where they can't easily accept a customs arrangement (whatever it's called) without resigning.
No deal is virtually off the table, softer brexit or remain looms, the ultra hard brexiters become more prattish every day and are a laughing stock so much so 28 of their group peeled away yesterday, and last nights votes showed that they have no more than 85 of the 650 mps on their side0
