They do not want British MEPs. We do not want British MEPs. So I imagine a way will be found that results in no British MEPs. Not sure how though - other than the obvious of passing the WA.
Already ruled out by the ECJ. You are either a member will full rights or you are a third country
In the absence of the WDA and with an extended A50 we are a full member
Otherwise the new EU Parliament will not be able to legally pass laws or function
And the legal steps to start the election campaign have already been taken so unless the WA is agreed in the very near future (rather a small possibility I think) we are going to elect MEPs on 23rd May.
Predict the lowest turnout in a UKwide election ever?
Who is going to bother to turn out to vote for MEPs in vast regions like the South East and North West with little local connection and the country having already voted to Leave the EU anyway other than diehard Remainers for TIG and diehard Leavers for the Brexit Party to make a point
I predict it will be the highest turnout in any European election we’ve had.
+1
Apart from anything else it will benefit from all these trailers.
They do not want British MEPs. We do not want British MEPs. So I imagine a way will be found that results in no British MEPs. Not sure how though - other than the obvious of passing the WA.
Already ruled out by the ECJ. You are either a member will full rights or you are a third country
In the absence of the WDA and with an extended A50 we are a full member
Otherwise the new EU Parliament will not be able to legally pass laws or function
And the legal steps to start the election campaign have already been taken so unless the WA is agreed in the very near future (rather a small possibility I think) we are going to elect MEPs on 23rd May.
I think if we do that then it really is over. We'll still be there 5 years from now.
As a result of Brexit's cancellation, Brendan is rather cross:
These Orwellian euphemisms are simply a disguise for what the political elite’s war on No Deal represents – a war on Brexit. When you hear MPs saying ‘We have to prevent No Deal’, what they really mean is: ‘We have to prevent Brexit.’ And preventing Brexit of course means preventing democracy, disenfranchising millions, overturning 100 years of a democratic contract that defined modern Britain. This is the end of an era.
They do not want British MEPs. We do not want British MEPs. So I imagine a way will be found that results in no British MEPs. Not sure how though - other than the obvious of passing the WA.
Already ruled out by the ECJ. You are either a member will full rights or you are a third country
In the absence of the WDA and with an extended A50 we are a full member
Otherwise the new EU Parliament will not be able to legally pass laws or function
And the legal steps to start the election campaign have already been taken so unless the WA is agreed in the very near future (rather a small possibility I think) we are going to elect MEPs on 23rd May.
I think if we do that then it really is over. We'll still be there 5 years from now.
Yes - I think there is now a greater than 50% chance that Brexit will never happen. There will be continued A50 extensions, the issue will slip down the political agenda and eventually it will be formally revoked.
I'm sure that informal lunch wont be tense in the slightest. Is Corbyn a cricket fan? He and May could bond discussing the new season and how backbenchers are annoying twits.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
I'm sure that informal lunch wont be tense in the slightest. Is Corbyn a cricket fan? He and May could bond discussing the new season and how backbenchers are annoying twits.
I'm sure that informal lunch wont be tense in the slightest. Is Corbyn a cricket fan? He and May could bond discussing the new season and how backbenchers are annoying twits.
May and Corbyn not attending
Shame. I guess what they want is pretty irrelevant anyway.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
We knew you'd get there in the end. I can send you one of my spare flags if you like?
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
There, in a nutshell, is the problem of the centre-right. It isn't just enough to survive - we are a rich country and we should be asking ourselves how we can help the MS Smiths move beyond where we are to where they aspire to be.
Not everyone who has fallen on hard times is a "scrounger" - many suffer from addiction or mental health problems. We also know how difficult it can be for ex-servicemen and ex-offenders to re-integrate into society. All of this should be our priority - tackling addiction and mental health issues, providing not just a measure of survival but genuine help for people to get back on their feet.
In addition, we need to take a long hard look at how the elderly are treated in society. They aren't just Tory-voting fodder. What is it going to be like to be 80 or 90 years old in Britain in 2030?
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
They do not want British MEPs. We do not want British MEPs. So I imagine a way will be found that results in no British MEPs. Not sure how though - other than the obvious of passing the WA.
Already ruled out by the ECJ. You are either a member will full rights or you are a third country
In the absence of the WDA and with an extended A50 we are a full member
Otherwise the new EU Parliament will not be able to legally pass laws or function
And the legal steps to start the election campaign have already been taken so unless the WA is agreed in the very near future (rather a small possibility I think) we are going to elect MEPs on 23rd May.
Predict the lowest turnout in a UKwide election ever?
Who is going to bother to turn out to vote for MEPs in vast regions like the South East and North West with little local connection and the country having already voted to Leave the EU anyway other than diehard Remainers for TIG and diehard Leavers for the Brexit Party to make a point
I predict it will be the highest turnout in any European election we’ve had.
I think you could be right, and have bet accordingly.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
OK so who can remember the process for invoking Article 50? MV? Simple majority?
And of course can you do it twice?
Debatable whether it needs a HoC vote, though it would be advisable of course. May was given the power to invoke A50 IIRC, nothing to say she had to, and nothing to prevent her from issuing an executive order to do so imo.
As I say, it would be advisable to get a HoC vote so she will no doubt do that... Oh
It has to comply with UK constitutional requirements but even talking about TM revoking is in another world
Uhuh? That is written down where precisely?
I really rate most of your posts Big_G but like all of us you fall foul of sometimes believing what you wish to be the case, is in fact the case. Your view on the impossibility of the HoC approving EU elections is an example (they didn't need to approve them).
Still, I respect your opinion and accept you may be right on Revoke... I just don't think that legally you are (IMHO).
The ECJ said the decision to revoke has to be made in line with the country's 'own national constitution requirements' whatever they may be and that is quoted in the Independent of the 8th January 2019
As far as the EU elections are concerned I was correct in saying it needed legislation only that the part of the legislation needed had not expired being tied up in the HOC, so fortunate in that respect
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Bit dim of the EU to expect that their sh1t sandwich would be swallowed by the Uk parliament - they are just as naive as Mrs May.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Then deny an extension. All this 'let's punish Britain' idiocy will result in tears. Say no more delay, stay or go, but we aren't hanging about waiting. It's not rocket science but the EU are spineless
Oh god! That's not "Two Brians - No Sense" Willets AND Matt Hancock in the same room together is it????
#Disaster
Willetts has probably done more for poisoning the Tories well with younger voters than anyone else.
I met him once.
Obviously clever but rather rude too with zero beside manner: talking to members and activists (as I attempted to do after his speech) seemed to fill him with horror.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
Regular inspections to check if we are in compliance with our undertakings. Yes, that sounds eminently sensible, but the effectiveness of any inspections will depend very much on who is doing them.
Hans Blix is probably not an option. He's 90 years old now.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
I think this is the confusion. The UK who voted to Leave aren't the UK not wanting to leave just yet.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Then deny an extension. All this 'let's punish Britain' idiocy will result in tears. Say no more delay, stay or go, but we aren't hanging about waiting. It's not rocket science but the EU are spineless
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
There, in a nutshell, is the problem of the centre-right. It isn't just enough to survive - we are a rich country and we should be asking ourselves how we can help the MS Smiths move beyond where we are to where they aspire to be.
Not everyone who has fallen on hard times is a "scrounger" - many suffer from addiction or mental health problems. We also know how difficult it can be for ex-servicemen and ex-offenders to re-integrate into society. All of this should be our priority - tackling addiction and mental health issues, providing not just a measure of survival but genuine help for people to get back on their feet.
In addition, we need to take a long hard look at how the elderly are treated in society. They aren't just Tory-voting fodder. What is it going to be like to be 80 or 90 years old in Britain in 2030?
There is almost certainly a long and very expensive story behind this of an army of people trying to help her. Some people need to be accountable for their bad decisions.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Then deny an extension. All this 'let's punish Britain' idiocy will result in tears. Say no more delay, stay or go, but we aren't hanging about waiting. It's not rocket science but the EU are spineless
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Then deny an extension. All this 'let's punish Britain' idiocy will result in tears. Say no more delay, stay or go, but we aren't hanging about waiting. It's not rocket science but the EU are spineless
Britain clearly is hanging around waiting.
So they refuse an extension. But they are frit
How was Brexit for you Grandad ?
Well us remainers lost - but I retweeted some amusing tweets about the ERG..
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
We knew you'd get there in the end. I can send you one of my spare flags if you like?
I don’t do flags unless it has a Union Jack in it.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Then deny an extension. All this 'let's punish Britain' idiocy will result in tears. Say no more delay, stay or go, but we aren't hanging about waiting. It's not rocket science but the EU are spineless
Britain clearly is hanging around waiting.
So they refuse an extension. But they are frit
How was Brexit for you Grandad ?
Well us remainers lost - but I retweeted some amusing tweets about the ERG..
Or 'Us remainers won - AND I retweeted some amusing tweets about the ERG'.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A crlcial feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
An important feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
... so we should rein in the state and get homelessness back to 1980s levels?
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A crlcial feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
It's insane, the benefit fraud cost is a tiny tiny fraction of corporate tax avoidance but it's easier to hate on the poor having the audacity to heat their homes and eat meat from farm animals rather than rats and the like
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Being fed up is understandable. But if we are in they have obligations too.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
We knew you'd get there in the end. I can send you one of my spare flags if you like?
I don’t do flags unless it has a Union Jack in it.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Whilst not disagreeing with you, I wonder if you mean that you've seen an increase in rough sleeping in the last 2-3 years? Not the same thing as homelessness, and a very important distinction.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is adamant that Brexit cannot be delayed beyond December 2019, and will ask the other 26 EU leaders to impose compliance checks on the UK every three months during any extension, Alberto Nardello reports in a story for BuzzFeed.
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
That almost makes me want to revoke and Remain, just to piss off the French.
If we are members we appoint a commissioner. If he doesn't like it, offer us something. French twat
Erm, look at it from the EU's perspective. They've negotiated a deal with the British government. The deal has been on the table for months. Having voted to leave, the UK is now not wanting to leave just yet. This would really mess up the EU's structures, especially as the UK claims still to want to leave, but not yet.
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
Then deny an extension. All this 'let's punish Britain' idiocy will result in tears. Say no more delay, stay or go, but we aren't hanging about waiting. It's not rocket science but the EU are spineless
Britain clearly is hanging around waiting.
So they refuse an extension. But they are frit
How was Brexit for you Grandad ?
It left me no option but to give up my British Citizenship.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
It's unmissable, and for more than just 2 or 3 years.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
It's unmissable, and for more than just 2 or 3 years.
Yep. The numbers in Norwich city centre are on the up and up
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
and lower than at any point under labour before the crash.
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. The theory of providing cheap accommodation for key workers has been around for years and being able to quickly convert office blocks and unused public buildings into effectively dormitories for NHS workers to live nearer where they work isn't without merit but as always Government has simply allowed the private sector the latitude - insufficient regulation has as we always see led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
and lower than at any point under labour before the crash.
I absolutely guarantee she is still only in temporary accommodation because she has repeatedly refused offers of rehousing, and is holding out for a nice flat somewhere, not the equiv of what she had. Though it sounds very shoddy to house her where she couldnt use a bathroom.
38% No Deal - 40% Revoke is 'split down the middle'; 52% Leave - 48% Remain is 'the will of the people'.
Looking at polls as a whole, that seems about right. If you force people to extremes, they break 50/50 Revoke./No Deal.
Indeed. This, even as a Remainer, is why I supported May's deal as the best compromise for a split country. But the ERG and DUP pissed that chance down the toilet.
So now we will inevitably irritate up to 50%* of the population... and I suspect that will be the Leavers.
The only way out that avoids a long and damaging split is a PV on May's deal versus Remain, which I think May's Deal would win. Leavers spouting on about how the masses will rise should take their chance, prove their judgement, and campaign for a PV.
(*Up to because in all honesty I doubt more than 10-20% are much bothered either way.)
Thanks - the use of Property Guardians is emerging as one of the real scandals of our time. Thsee led to exploitation.
"Ms Smith is one of hundreds of residents placed at Terminus House" you mean she's in emergency/temporary accommodation. What does she expect, a penthouse suite? Some people FFS.
She's been there fore a year...
Presumably there are a shortage of places available.
Presumably she needs to get a grip of her own destiny and leave. People are not spectators in their own lives. Learned helplessness behaviour. Much of which has now been shaken out of the system.
If you are opposed to the idea of the state housing people I think you should come out and say it.
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
Again, this isnt about hard times, its about learnt feebleness. There will be a series of interventions and assistance before she has got to this stage.
A key feebleness that has grown in Britain in the last 30 years is a feebleness of both empathy and community spirit. Assumptions of 'scroungers' and the weakness of community support networks are in fact connected.
Homelessness is substantially lower now than it was thirty years ago.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
It's unmissable, and for more than just 2 or 3 years.
Yep. The numbers in Norwich city centre are on the up and up
30 rough sleeping is a lot. There will be a complex set of reasons, possible ineligibility (code word for foreigners who should be deported), councils are now much much better then they were in preventing homelessness. It is not a service that has been reduced over the last decade.
I think the sad conclusion to all this is that a section of MPs are utterly deranged and are being followed like sheep by a section of the public who are equally deranged .
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.
I absolutely guarantee she is still only in temporary accommodation because she has repeatedly refused offers of rehousing, and is holding out for a nice flat somewhere, not the equiv of what she had. Though it sounds very shoddy to house her where she couldnt use a bathroom.
Homelessness has been rising dramatically, all over the country in the last 2-3 years. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Whilst not disagreeing with you, I wonder if you mean that you've seen an increase in rough sleeping in the last 2-3 years? Not the same thing as homelessness, and a very important distinction.
Quite. rough sleeping is a subset of homelessness and the increase is largely non British people. Not sure what the solution is.
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Apart from anything else it will benefit from all these trailers.
https://twitter.com/brianmoore666/status/1115588232954118144
These Orwellian euphemisms are simply a disguise for what the political elite’s war on No Deal represents – a war on Brexit. When you hear MPs saying ‘We have to prevent No Deal’, what they really mean is: ‘We have to prevent Brexit.’ And preventing Brexit of course means preventing democracy, disenfranchising millions, overturning 100 years of a democratic contract that defined modern Britain. This is the end of an era.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/04/04/the-war-on-no-deal-is-a-war-on-democracy/
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1115566660243660801?s=20
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-blackout-protest-strike-on-facebook-1-5983822
BuzzFeed News reported on Monday that the EU will expect the UK to meet “enhanced sincere cooperation” terms in an attempt to allay fears that if May’s successor is a hardline Brexiteer, they will be unable to disrupt the EU’s decision-making on budgets and other key issues. Brussels will reserve the right to end the extension period early, in agreement with the UK, in the event of non-compliance with this duty.
But Macron will ask his European counterparts to go even further, the diplomatic sources explained.
In addition to seeking a commitment from the UK that it will not disrupt the EU’s working, he wants the delay to be structured around quarterly checkpoints to confirm the extension, with the possibility of terminating early — in June or September — if the UK is found to not be respecting its commitments.
Macron also wants to deny the UK the right to appoint a commissioner to the next European Commission.
Carwyn Jones had already confirmed his retirement in 2021.
All other sitting constituency AMs submitted themselves for re-selection.
They all won the trigger ballot.
When it comes down to it, I think Mark Francois basically only cares about his ego.
As a gentleman of short stature a more astute PM than Theresa May would have worked this out a long time ago.
How do I vote to get Hong Kong back?
Remainers meeting Remainers to work out how to stop Brexit?
Not everyone who has fallen on hard times is a "scrounger" - many suffer from addiction or mental health problems. We also know how difficult it can be for ex-servicemen and ex-offenders to re-integrate into society. All of this should be our priority - tackling addiction and mental health issues, providing not just a measure of survival but genuine help for people to get back on their feet.
In addition, we need to take a long hard look at how the elderly are treated in society. They aren't just Tory-voting fodder. What is it going to be like to be 80 or 90 years old in Britain in 2030?
I'm opposed to the state housing people except in emergency situations. No real problem with social housing through not for profits and housing associations. This is about learnt feebleness.
"they've housed me somewhere really crap because i got evicted/ didnt pay the rent. I'm still here waiting for them lot to do something about it".
If I were on the EU side, I too would be fed up at the idea that Britain should get both an extension and to upend the EU's institutions.
https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status/380108169898627072
As far as the EU elections are concerned I was correct in saying it needed legislation only that the part of the legislation needed had not expired being tied up in the HOC, so fortunate in that respect
Obviously clever but rather rude too with zero beside manner: talking to members and activists (as I attempted to do after his speech) seemed to fill him with horror.
I hope you never fall on hard times.
Hans Blix is probably not an option. He's 90 years old now.
It’s not facts that will convince him.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-47855741/brexit-escape-room-can-these-mps-get-out
Well us remainers lost - but I retweeted some amusing tweets about the ERG..
Nice.
5 posts or so to fill now is it
Sensible remainers working out how to sensibly leave.
Meanwhile loony ERGers are doing everything they can to block Brexit.
We will have the map pink in no time
Which is another good reason for them to not grant an extension.
No one condones benefit faudsters but in my experience most people acknowldge the state needs to help people in genuine need.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/08/exclusive-britons-split-middle-no-deal-no-brexit-telegraph-poll/
38% No Deal - 40% Revoke is 'split down the middle'; 52% Leave - 48% Remain is 'the will of the people'.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/09/grenfell-survivor-mariko-toyoshima-lewis-kensington-chelsea-council
So now we will inevitably irritate up to 50%* of the population... and I suspect that will be the Leavers.
The only way out that avoids a long and damaging split is a PV on May's deal versus Remain, which I think May's Deal would win. Leavers spouting on about how the masses will rise should take their chance, prove their judgement, and campaign for a PV.
(*Up to because in all honesty I doubt more than 10-20% are much bothered either way.)
Overall applications are down slightly over the last 5 years, accepted applications are up slightly. It is a disappointingly static picture given addressing this was supposed to be a priority but a surge it isn't.