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Overnight the Queen signed what’s become known as the Cooper-Letwin measures thus making it now the law that TMsy cannot take the UK out of the EU without a deal.
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1st unless this thread goes the way of the Boris one.0
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And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
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Is Cooper-Letwin a spoof too?Ishmael_Z said:1st unless this thread goes the way of the Boris one.
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Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal0
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Still hunting those unicorns. Or focusing on the blame gameScott_P said:These people are incredible
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I'm sure they would be devastated if we revoked as a result of their bill.HYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
I hope the sarcasm is clear enough.0 -
We hold all the cards.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
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Which looks the likeliest outcome if No extensionkle4 said:
I'm sure they would be devastated if we revoked as a result of their bill.HYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
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It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon0 -
Fake news.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
She doesn’t want No Brexit, she just wants to avoid a No Deal Brexit which even Gove concedes doesn’t honour the referendum campaign.0 -
Probably but remember De Gaulle vetoed our original EEC entry in the first place.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon
If No Deal Barnier has said the EU would not hold any further talks with the UK until the backstop agreed to protect Ireland0 -
In exciting news, I managed to fix the Open Office spellchecker, which had broken.
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https://twitter.com/DKShrewsbury/status/1115339460512821250Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon0 -
Have there been any recent polls for Leave/Remain? Surely 'Remain' must by now have enough of a lead to make a second referendum sound like the democratic thing to do.0
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The BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme set Layla Moran, Andrew Bridgen and Yasmin Qureshi the task of putting aside their differences to answer Brexit-themed puzzles and questions.
But can they get out on time?
10-11am on BBC & News Channel
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Yeah right that's the only thing she wants. Avoiding no deal and wanting remain complement each other. We can all be honest now, revoke is popular after all. If you honestly believe Cooper and Letwin do not seek for us to remain that seems very naive to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
Fake news.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
She doesn’t want No Brexit, she just wants to avoid a No Deal Brexit which even Gove concedes doesn’t honour the referendum campaign.
It's good we probably wont no deal now, well done her, but she was worked toward remain, let's not kid ourselves, unless you think she's about to back some sort of option now that takes remain off the table?0 -
And crap politicians can't even deliver good policy. c.f. Brexit...Scott_P said:
Or, even talented politicians can't deliver crap policy.DavidL said:For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.
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There were 60 odd in 2015, 86% of them had Remain winning and the average margin was 8%Roger said:Have there been any recent polls for Leave/Remain? Surely 'Remain' must by now have enough of a lead to make a second referendum sound like the democratic thing to do.
Maybe the referendum vote was an outlier!!
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I saw Hardcore Unicorn Remainers back in '92...rottenborough said:
The second album was shite though. Nearly as bad as Radiohead.0 -
This is the kind of stuff which will dominate any Tory leadership campaign.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
https://twitter.com/AllieRenison/status/1115523978536341504
Which will make it such fun. A new leader publically committed to impossible things.0 -
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.0 -
Their John Peel sessions were legendary, though.Scott_P said:
I saw Hardcore Unicorn Remainers back in '92...rottenborough said:
The second album was shite though. Nearly as bad as Radiohead.0 -
I think anything is possible if Leadsom sits down with Merkel to resolve the crisis like she sat down with Eddie George.dixiedean said:
This is the kind of stuff which will dominate any Tory leadership campaign.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
https://twitter.com/AllieRenison/status/1115523978536341504
Which will make it such fun. A new leader publically committed to impossible things.
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In Scotland, because the SNP can never admit a mistake, we still have them. In fairness it kept a lot of surveyor firms going after 2008, all those delicious and pointless fees and repeat fees for so little work.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.0 -
She kept calling the RICS an institute rather than institution. That’s Surveyong 101 failed, and symbolic of her ignorance of expert advice - guess what Politicians didn’t like experts before Gove.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.0 -
I very much hope we don’t get an extension.
To govern is to choose. It’s time those elected (and paid) to do so remembered that.0 -
"fantastic" as in a complete fantasy is about right.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
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I’ve spent most of 2019 reassuring Leavers that we’d eventually Leave, ERG permitting.kle4 said:
Yeah right that's the only thing she wants. Avoiding no deal and wanting remain complement each other. We can all be honest now, revoke is popular after all. If you honestly believe Cooper and Letwin do not seek for us to remain that seems very naive to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
Fake news.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
She doesn’t want No Brexit, she just wants to avoid a No Deal Brexit which even Gove concedes doesn’t honour the referendum campaign.
It's good we probably wont no deal now, well done her, but she was worked toward remain, let's not kid ourselves, unless you think she's about to back some sort of option now that takes remain off the table?0 -
The problem for Suevyors is that what they really want to do is provide expert advice - something of value for a relevant fee. Providing nonsense tick box reports which can be completed by trainees is not a way to promote a profession.DavidL said:
In Scotland, because the SNP can never admit a mistake, we still have them. In fairness it kept a lot of surveyor firms going after 2008, all those delicious and pointless fees and repeat fees for so little work.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.0 -
What if Macron refuses an extension, and No Deal leads to massive queues of rotting French food in Calais? The always friendly French farmers and truck drivers in their yellow vests would cause him no end of problems.HYUFD said:
Probably but remember De Gaulle vetoed our original EEC entry in the first place.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon
If No Deal Barnier has said the EU would not hold any further talks with the UK until the backstop agreed to protect Ireland
I'll believe Macron's intention to block an extension when it actually happens.0 -
Peter Bone seems to be in a breakaway of his own, being the only MP to sign an amendment put down to this evening's extension motion seeking to change the date to 15 April.rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/DKShrewsbury/status/1115339460512821250Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon0 -
Leadsom as the White Queen:dixiedean said:
This is the kind of stuff which will dominate any Tory leadership campaign.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
https://twitter.com/AllieRenison/status/1115523978536341504
Which will make it such fun. A new leader publically committed to impossible things.
"“Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said. 'One can't believe impossible things.'
I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. "
It does kinda work, doesn't it?0 -
There isn't going to be any veto - Macron is simply playing hard cop and to his domestic audience. The EU will take a united consensus view and stick to it. Unlike our politicians.Sandpit said:
What if Macron refuses an extension, and No Deal leads to massive queues of rotting French food in Calais? The always friendly French farmers and truck drivers in their yellow vests would cause him no end of problems.HYUFD said:
Probably but remember De Gaulle vetoed our original EEC entry in the first place.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon
If No Deal Barnier has said the EU would not hold any further talks with the UK until the backstop agreed to protect Ireland
I'll believe Macron's intention to block an extension when it actually happens.0 -
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Last time I checked Scotland had a referendum on independence, and voted for the continuation of the Union.
Did you forget?
You cretinous dolt , that was because people wanted to be certain they would be in the EU. That worked out well, all that crap about how everyone's opinion would count , we would be at the table. Lying bunch of barstewards.0 -
Aye. Newsnight was hilarious last night, suggesting Theresa May would be begging Macron for an extension.HYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The UK is STILL in control of events. We can revoke, take the deal, or leave with no deal. Just as we could five months ago.
If we really want 'an extension', we'd have to revoke and re-invoke at a later date (long enough so it not to look like we were abusing the process) so it would force us into a very long extension, but an extension we would get.0 -
I saw them above a pub before they were famous. They had sold out by the time their first record came out.Ishmael_Z said:
Their John Peel sessions were legendary, though.Scott_P said:
I saw Hardcore Unicorn Remainers back in '92...rottenborough said:
The second album was shite though. Nearly as bad as Radiohead.
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Mr. B, hey!
Some of us do some proper research about fantasy (for anyone who read Journey to Altmortis: the crowberries included in the story are real. Took me a little while to find naturally occurring sub-Arctic tundra edible berries, but it's a nice touch).0 -
Yep.Nemtynakht said:
The problem for Suevyors is that what they really want to do is provide expert advice - something of value for a relevant fee. Providing nonsense tick box reports which can be completed by trainees is not a way to promote a profession.DavidL said:
In Scotland, because the SNP can never admit a mistake, we still have them. In fairness it kept a lot of surveyor firms going after 2008, all those delicious and pointless fees and repeat fees for so little work.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.0 -
He even queried why HMG was involving the queen in giving royal assent to the Cooper Letwin billIanB2 said:
Peter Bone seems to be in a breakaway of his own, being the only MP to sign an amendment put down to this evening's extension motion seeking to change the date to 15 April.rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/DKShrewsbury/status/1115339460512821250Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon
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OT fun (but voodoo) ranked-choice presidential poll:
https://rcv-app.firebaseapp.com/poll/-LbZO2dSxNVSEkBDEDRV/ballot
Currently the final round, after 16 eliminations, is:
Buttigieg 50.6%
Bernie: 31.1%
Beto 18.3%
Biden not really figuring, even after you apply the "your name has to begin with B" rule and eliminate everyone else.
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David, It was Letwins bill, she was just window dressing to get labour support, she has not the brains to be anything other than back bench cannon fodder as she has amply proved over the years.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
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Exactly, it's transparent posturing for his domestic audience.IanB2 said:
There isn't going to be any veto - Macron is simply playing hard cop and to his domestic audience. The EU will take a united consensus view and stick to it. Unlike our politicians.Sandpit said:
What if Macron refuses an extension, and No Deal leads to massive queues of rotting French food in Calais? The always friendly French farmers and truck drivers in their yellow vests would cause him no end of problems.HYUFD said:
Probably but remember De Gaulle vetoed our original EEC entry in the first place.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon
If No Deal Barnier has said the EU would not hold any further talks with the UK until the backstop agreed to protect Ireland
I'll believe Macron's intention to block an extension when it actually happens.
The PM and EU leaders need to work out a way forward that is suitable for all, which isn't going to come about until they all acknowledge that the Withdrawal Agreement isn't going to pass Parliament.
The alternative is that the UK holds the MEP elections, and elects a bunch of undesirables to mess with the EU budget planning later this year.0 -
The House Of Crooks And Thieves were getting HMQ up at 11pm. This a 92 year old woman. At least someone was thinking about the old girl...Big_G_NorthWales said:
He even queried why HMG was involving the queen in giving royal assent to the Cooper Letwin billIanB2 said:
Peter Bone seems to be in a breakaway of his own, being the only MP to sign an amendment put down to this evening's extension motion seeking to change the date to 15 April.rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/DKShrewsbury/status/1115339460512821250Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
The Express reporting a block of 28 ERG members broke away yesterday leaving about 25 ultra brexiteers to continue their drive to economic armageddon 0 -
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A couple of weekends ago the papers said The Queen wouldn’t give Royal Assent to Cooper-Letwin.
Leavers even got some lawyers to say so.
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And that has something to do with Cooper obviously wanting to see us remain and working toward that end how?TheScreamingEagles said:
I’ve spent most of 2019 reassuring Leavers that we’d eventually Leave, ERG permitting.kle4 said:
Yeah right that's the only thing she wants. Avoiding no deal and wanting remain complement each other. We can all be honest now, revoke is popular after all. If you honestly believe Cooper and Letwin do not seek for us to remain that seems very naive to me.TheScreamingEagles said:
Fake news.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
She doesn’t want No Brexit, she just wants to avoid a No Deal Brexit which even Gove concedes doesn’t honour the referendum campaign.
It's good we probably wont no deal now, well done her, but she was worked toward remain, let's not kid ourselves, unless you think she's about to back some sort of option now that takes remain off the table?
Her actions to try to prevent no deal are appreciated but her motivation is as direct as the noon day sun on a cloudless day.0 -
The Scottish system is fundamentally different though -DavidL said:
In Scotland, because the SNP can never admit a mistake, we still have them. In fairness it kept a lot of surveyor firms going after 2008, all those delicious and pointless fees and repeat fees for so little work.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.
And this might sound a naive question, but do buyers surveys and sellers surveys look different on the same property ?
Edit: Just checked, HIPs mandatory information never included a property survey !0 -
That was a particularly stupid comment from Uniondivvie given there are a number of us on here who support both Brexit and Scottish Independence.isam said:FPT
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What's a caucas? Is it a phonetic rendering of what everyone thinks of ERG?rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/DKShrewsbury/status/1115339460512821250Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is inconceivable that France will veto any extension throwing Ireland to the wolvesHYUFD said:Letwin-Cooper is all very well but if Macron vetoes further extension this week, the Commons will either have to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement or to revoke Article 50 by Friday night to avoid No Deal
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Sort your font size out man, it's coming across shouty.isam said:FPT
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The answer is crap as it would be impossible if England voted leave for the rest of the UK to change the result, that is the whole point , it is always what England wants that is enacted, with 86% of the population how else could it be , the union is crap for Scotland, fine for NI as they are a financial basket case unless they unite with south. Wales are so stuffed they are unable to be saved.Richard_Tyndall said:
That was a particularly stupid comment from Uniondivvie given there are a number of us on here who support both Brexit and Scottish Independence.isam said:FPT
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Mogg was the first one to sign the deal...Nemtynakht said:
I saw them above a pub before they were famous. They had sold out by the time their first record came out.Ishmael_Z said:
Their John Peel sessions were legendary, though.Scott_P said:
I saw Hardcore Unicorn Remainers back in '92...rottenborough said:
The second album was shite though. Nearly as bad as Radiohead.0 -
We're on to stupid already? Fucking moron by noon I'll wager.Richard_Tyndall said:
That was a particularly stupid comment from Uniondivvie given there are a number of us on here who support both Brexit and Scottish Independence.isam said:FPT
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Back when I were a lad in the 1980s doing conveyancing the Scottish system was different in that missives (contracts) were concluded promptly and usually weeks before the date of entry allowing the seller to commit himself in turn to their next purchase. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case and parties frequently leave the contracts open, as I understand you do in England, until the day of settlement with the result that day, like Brexit, gets delayed. It is regrettable.Pulpstar said:
The Scottish system is fundamentally different though -DavidL said:
In Scotland, because the SNP can never admit a mistake, we still have them. In fairness it kept a lot of surveyor firms going after 2008, all those delicious and pointless fees and repeat fees for so little work.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.
And this might sound a naive question, but do buyers surveys and sellers surveys look different on the same property ?
On surveys I would say that a buyer's survey focuses much more on risk factors, possible repair costs, re-sellability. The sellers' home report contains lots of largely irrelevant material in which you occasionally find something alarming, if you know how to read between the lines.0 -
It's an image, really horrible way to quote stuff.Theuniondivvie said:
Sort your font size out man, it's coming across shouty.isam said:FPT
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One vote makes you larger, and one vote makes you smallDavidL said:
Leadsom as the White Queen:dixiedean said:
This is the kind of stuff which will dominate any Tory leadership campaign.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
https://twitter.com/AllieRenison/status/1115523978536341504
Which will make it such fun. A new leader publically committed to impossible things.
"“Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said. 'One can't believe impossible things.'
I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. "
It does kinda work, doesn't it?
And the ones that Corbyn gives you, don't do anything at all
Go ask Leadsome, when she's ten feet tall
And if you go chasing unicorns, and you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a fat twat called Boris has given you the call
And call Leadsome, when she was just small
When the men on the '22 get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of polling, and your mind is moving low
Go ask Leadsome, I think she'll know
When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And JRM is talking backwards
And the Kate Hoey's off with her head
Remember what the Sajid said
Feed your head, feed your head
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And they wouldn't be accepted by banks offering to mortgage the property, who insist on using their own people (as the HIPsters wouldn't have professional liability insurance to cover screwups). It was one of the most bonkers government policies in our lifetimes.Pulpstar said:
The Scottish system is fundamentally different though -DavidL said:
In Scotland, because the SNP can never admit a mistake, we still have them. In fairness it kept a lot of surveyor firms going after 2008, all those delicious and pointless fees and repeat fees for so little work.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As you grow older your education account develops, miistake by mistake, until in later life you gain wisdom and look back at some of your previous decisions in horror.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
Hips and Yvette come into that category. I actually had considerable involvement with HIPS at the time and Yvette just would not listen to advice coming from many in the industry.
And this might sound a naive question, but do buyers surveys and sellers surveys look different on the same property ?
Edit: Just checked, HIPs mandatory information never included a property survey !
HIPs don't lie, Yvette.0 -
Same size as yours mon!Theuniondivvie said:
Sort your font size out man, it's coming across shouty.isam said:FPT
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At the risk of over-exciting the site, I also managed to change straight apostrophes to curly ones in mere minutes (it took me bloody ages to find out how to do it the first time).0
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It's not, it depends on your browser. Please, just quote stuff the normal way.isam said:
Same size as yours mon!Theuniondivvie said:
Sort your font size out man, it's coming across shouty.isam said:0 -
Okay that is just genius.Dura_Ace said:
One vote makes you larger, and one vote makes you smallDavidL said:
Leadsom as the White Queen:dixiedean said:
This is the kind of stuff which will dominate any Tory leadership campaign.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
https://twitter.com/AllieRenison/status/1115523978536341504
Which will make it such fun. A new leader publically committed to impossible things.
"“Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said. 'One can't believe impossible things.'
I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. "
It does kinda work, doesn't it?
And the ones that Corbyn gives you, don't do anything at all
Go ask Leadsome, when she's ten feet tall
And if you go chasing unicorns, and you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a fat twat called Boris has given you the call
And call Leadsome, when she was just small
When the men on the '22 get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of polling, and your mind is moving low
Go ask Leadsome, I think she'll know
When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And JRM is talking backwards
And the Kate Hoey's off with her head
Remember what the Sajid said
Feed your head, feed your head
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She brought together a sufficient consensus to achieve a majority. Something May has found quite beyond her.malcolmg said:
David, It was Letwins bill, she was just window dressing to get labour support, she has not the brains to be anything other than back bench cannon fodder as she has amply proved over the years.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
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interesting snippet in this latest call for the cabinet to grow a pair.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2019/04/the-cabinet-must-tell-may-to-go.html
"Expect soon to hear a new form of that old talk about a Conservative-UKIP alliance – this time round, of a Tory-Brexit Party pact."0 -
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Find and replace function in Open Office?Morris_Dancer said:At the risk of over-exciting the site, I also managed to change straight apostrophes to curly ones in mere minutes (it took me bloody ages to find out how to do it the first time).
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The photo has quotes from @Theuniondivvie and myself which are the same size.edmundintokyo said:
It's not, it depends on your browser. Please, just quote stuff the normal way.isam said:
Same size as yours mon!Theuniondivvie said:
Sort your font size out man, it's coming across shouty.isam said:
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That would probably be enough to get the WA through. Pragmatism at last?Scott_P said:0 -
So did the Brady amendment - but May ignored that completely.DavidL said:
She brought together a sufficient consensus to achieve a majority. Something May has found quite beyond her.malcolmg said:
David, It was Letwins bill, she was just window dressing to get labour support, she has not the brains to be anything other than back bench cannon fodder as she has amply proved over the years.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
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The monarch is the latest enemy of the people.
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Brilliant.Dura_Ace said:
One vote makes you larger, and one vote makes you smallDavidL said:
Leadsom as the White Queen:dixiedean said:
This is the kind of stuff which will dominate any Tory leadership campaign.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
https://twitter.com/AllieRenison/status/1115523978536341504
Which will make it such fun. A new leader publically committed to impossible things.
"“Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said. 'One can't believe impossible things.'
I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. "
It does kinda work, doesn't it?
And the ones that Corbyn gives you, don't do anything at all
Go ask Leadsome, when she's ten feet tall
And if you go chasing unicorns, and you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a fat twat called Boris has given you the call
And call Leadsome, when she was just small
When the men on the '22 get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of polling, and your mind is moving low
Go ask Leadsome, I think she'll know
When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And JRM is talking backwards
And the Kate Hoey's off with her head
Remember what the Sajid said
Feed your head, feed your head0 -
Mr. Sandpit, nothing so puny!
I have made it so that a typed apostrophe appears curly at once. Behold my formatting prowess!
(On a serious note, I dislike straight ones and I annoyed me for ages the first time I had to do this, so a quick fiddle getting the change done is delightful).
However, find and replace is very handy for checking things like triple full stops instead of ellipsis, repetition of things like 'the the', 'and and', 'a a' and so on.0 -
One of my favourite songs when I was a teenager! Very good.Dura_Ace said:
One vote makes you larger, and one vote makes you smallDavidL said:
Leadsom as the White Queen:dixiedean said:
This is the kind of stuff which will dominate any Tory leadership campaign.Scott_P said:These people are incredible
https://twitter.com/AllieRenison/status/1115523978536341504
Which will make it such fun. A new leader publically committed to impossible things.
"“Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said. 'One can't believe impossible things.'
I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. "
It does kinda work, doesn't it?
And the ones that Corbyn gives you, don't do anything at all
Go ask Leadsome, when she's ten feet tall
And if you go chasing unicorns, and you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a fat twat called Boris has given you the call
And call Leadsome, when she was just small
When the men on the '22 get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of polling, and your mind is moving low
Go ask Leadsome, I think she'll know
When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And JRM is talking backwards
And the Kate Hoey's off with her head
Remember what the Sajid said
Feed your head, feed your head0 -
And Ireland itself will accept 5 years? Somehow I doubt it.GIN1138 said:0 -
There was an interesting radio prog in the very early hours a couple of weeks ago between James Naughtie and Rhod Sharp who as youngsters were both reporters together in New York. Now well into middle age they were looking at possibe Democratic candidates.edmundintokyo said:OT fun (but voodoo) ranked-choice presidential poll:
https://rcv-app.firebaseapp.com/poll/-LbZO2dSxNVSEkBDEDRV/ballot
Currently the final round, after 16 eliminations, is:
Buttigieg 50.6%
Bernie: 31.1%
Beto 18.3%
Biden not really figuring, even after you apply the "your name has to begin with B" rule and eliminate everyone else.
One was pretty certain it would be won by the man with the unpronouncable name from Indiana and the other thought it would go to Beto O'Rourke who he had just interviewed. Thanks for reminding me to have a bet and giving me the name of the unpronouncable one.0 -
Jezza's already picking out the council houses that HMQ and her family will be moved into during the second term!williamglenn said:The monarch is the latest enemy of the people.
https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/1115519090876190721?s=21 0 -
Quite funny!isam said:
There were 60 odd in 2015, 86% of them had Remain winning and the average margin was 8%Roger said:Have there been any recent polls for Leave/Remain? Surely 'Remain' must by now have enough of a lead to make a second referendum sound like the democratic thing to do.
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Certainly worth a couple of quid on Bettigieg imho. I have been on for some time, since Axelrod put out a tweet about the guy being really good.Roger said:
There was an interesting radio prog in the very early hours a couple of weeks ago between James Naughtie and Rhod Sharp who as youngsters were both reporters together in New York. Now well into middle age they were looking at possibe Democratic candidates.edmundintokyo said:OT fun (but voodoo) ranked-choice presidential poll:
https://rcv-app.firebaseapp.com/poll/-LbZO2dSxNVSEkBDEDRV/ballot
Currently the final round, after 16 eliminations, is:
Buttigieg 50.6%
Bernie: 31.1%
Beto 18.3%
Biden not really figuring, even after you apply the "your name has to begin with B" rule and eliminate everyone else.
One was pretty certain it would be won by the man with the unpronouncable name from Indiana and the other thought it would go to Beto O'Rourke who he had just interviewed. Thanks for reminding me to have a bet and giving me the name of the unpronouncable one.0 -
Why wait to write Brexit on a ballot paper when you can howl 24/7 from your lavishly tooled computer chair?williamglenn said:The monarch is the latest enemy of the people.
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How do you see that happening?kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
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LOL, not a high bar there David.DavidL said:
She brought together a sufficient consensus to achieve a majority. Something May has found quite beyond her.malcolmg said:
David, It was Letwins bill, she was just window dressing to get labour support, she has not the brains to be anything other than back bench cannon fodder as she has amply proved over the years.DavidL said:
For a back bench MP out of favour with her party's leadership it is indeed. Assessments of her capability based on the fiasco of HIPs perhaps need to be revisited.kle4 said:And so Cooper will get her desire of no Brexit. A remarkable achievement
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This is clearly heading for long extension. Why cant they just get it done.0
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Further evidence that the Tory right and Labour left are two sides of the same coin.GIN1138 said:
Jezza's already picking out the council houses that HMQ and her family will be moved into during the second term!williamglenn said:The monarch is the latest enemy of the people.
https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/1115519090876190721?s=210 -
Remain may well have actually been ahead in 2015. The campaigns probably changed mindsisam said:
There were 60 odd in 2015, 86% of them had Remain winning and the average margin was 8%Roger said:Have there been any recent polls for Leave/Remain? Surely 'Remain' must by now have enough of a lead to make a second referendum sound like the democratic thing to do.
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Roger said:
Quite funny!isam said:
There were 60 odd in 2015, 86% of them had Remain winning and the average margin was 8%Roger said:Have there been any recent polls for Leave/Remain? Surely 'Remain' must by now have enough of a lead to make a second referendum sound like the democratic thing to do.
Maybe the referendum vote was an outlier!! 0
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