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?BREAKING: A full blown cabinet coup is under way tonight to remove Theresa May as prime minister ?
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Premier.... unlike Tezza0
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Second. Stolen!0
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Third like Gove0
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You snooze ....you lose...0
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I reckon they decide who gets it Highlander style. There can be only one0
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If May's Deal is no longer fronted by May, will that help get May's Deal through? Asking for a friend like.....0
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How do coups against Conservative leaders work? Do the rebel cabinet ministers surround Downing Street and put Theresa May under house arrest while their colleagues take over the radio station and start playing patriotic music?0
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PM Lidington has the advantage no one in the real world has a clue who he is.
PM Gove has the disadvantage many in the real world know who he is.0 -
I'll believe it when I see it.0
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I'm perfectly happy with providing the swords and the carparks. The electric lightning may be a bit difficult, but I'll improvise.solarflare said:I reckon they decide who gets it Highlander style. There can be only one
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BETTING: May to go before Brexit - 1.38 on BFE0
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PaddyPower
What month will Theresa May cease to be Prime Minister
March 2019
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April 2019
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You can't currently back Gove on Betfair at higher than evens!
He's now favourite.0 -
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Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No0 -
Hope there is some truth to this. May is the worst, most tin eared PM I've ever known. Worst since Lord North I imagine and I wonder if that is unfair on Lord North.0
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If the Cabinet tell Mrs May that she has lost their confidence and should resign I think she would. Her position would be hopeless and she has run out of road. If she resigns and the Cabinet appoint Lidington as temporary PM and recommend him to the HM, she would appoint him. He would survive a VONC. Tory MPs and DUP would not want to risk a GE until the new Tory leader was sorted out.viewcode said:
Um, can she? She can't be forced to resign. Historically the process is:Barnesian said:
She can't be deposed as leader but she can be deposed as PM.HYUFD said:
It won't work, given she won the confidence vote late last year May cannot be challenged again until December. If she goes before then it will be entirely down to her and as we know she is as stubborn as a muleTheScreamingEagles said:
a) PM loses a VONC or GE.
b) Somebody else commands the confidence of the house
c) PM resigns
d) That somebody else is appointed PM by HMQ
Are we really going to put the Queen in a position where she has to appoint somebody whose ability to command the house is at the very least unproven?0 -
Dunno. Doubt she'd go out in an Allende stylee.FF43 said:How do coups against Conservative leaders work? Do the rebel cabinet ministers surround Downing Street and put Theresa May under house arrest while their colleagues take over the radio station and start playing patriotic music?
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TSE 4 PM!0
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Gove. Government manages indicative votes. Gove runs with the outcome (probably soft Brexit, CU etc). Probable nine month extension. Euro elections. Referendum still possible but unlikely.0
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I think the next Prime Minister will be Ben Richards
That boy is one mean motherfucker0 -
Gove is odds on favourite for politician most people want to slap....0
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Well that would be a novelty! The worst crisis since 1945 and the Tories offer us a temp! If a new PM wins a vote of confidence - quite a big if I would think - then they are in the job until the Commons or the electorate decides differently. Interim PM indeed - the idea is preposterous and an insult to the electorate. If the Tories are unable to govern in the usual way then they should resign and give the opposition a chance.Casino_Royale said:0 -
I don't see how any Tory Brexiteer would be happy with Lidington. Gove would be more palatable across the party and with the membership as well.0
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Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]0 -
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About fourteenth.
Like at least one of the candidates in the Tory leadership election.
EDIT: 24th. OK, that might be getting a bit silly.0 -
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Serves the ERG right.IanB2 said:Gove. Government manages indicative votes. Gove runs with the outcome (probably soft Brexit, CU etc). Probable nine month extension. Euro elections. Referendum still possible but unlikely.
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Lidlington backers - lay off some profit while you have the chance0
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And Boris, Raab, DD and the ERG will go along with this because...???Casino_Royale said:0 -
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We're in an emergency situation.anothernick said:
Well that would be a novelty! The worst crisis since 1945 and the Tories offer us a temp! If a new PM wins a vote of confidence - quite a big if I would think - then they are in the job until the Commons or the electorate decides differently. Interim PM indeed - the idea is preposterous and an insult to the electorate. If the Tories are unable to govern in the usual way then they should resign and give the opposition a chance.Casino_Royale said:
It explains the delta between Lidington's price as next Tory leader v. next PM.0 -
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This rather misses the element in the room that May cannot be forced out against her will as under Tory leadership rules after the challenge last year she cannot be challenged again until December. Nor does it change the fact Parliament still needs to hold indicative votes on the way forward it wants to take on Brexit0
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Who was the last PM not to have been an election winning LOTO, nor a former holder of one of the big 3 posts.
Ps, not a quiz question, a genuine inquiry.0 -
They don't have a choice.GIN1138 said:
And Boris, Raab, DD and the ERG will go along with this because...???Casino_Royale said:
They've blown it. As I've been trying to warn for weeks.
I think it's now this, or full revoke, which would probably involve the UK having to show a lot of europhile leg to the EU to get back in the game.
The sands have shifted.0 -
Of course this "quick switch" to Liddington also rely's on Theresa May playing along.
She could just announce, tomorrow, that she's standing down as Con leader and triggering a leadership contest but will remain as PM until the leader is chosen by the Party.
Would be absolutely nothing the Cabinet schemers could do about that...
Maybe that's what all the meetings with Boris have been about this week?0 -
At times like this I always think politics is a funny game. It’s easy to make a misjudgement and the opportunity is gone.
Stalin’s rivals underestimated him and lost their lives for the misjudgement. He was arguably 6th in line to take over from Lenin, and managed to repress Lenin’s thoughts of him which would have meant he would not have taken over.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_Joseph_Stalin
Just because someone says they don’t want it to start with could just be their strategy for coming in as others fall away0 -
It may require the likes of Umunna, Cable, Watson, Cooper, even Corbyn and Sturgeon to join the Cabinet and form a new government of national unity if a new interim PM like Lidington is to survive a VONC as the ERG would certainly vote against him regardless as would Labour and the SNP unless they were part of the government and closely involved in the Brexit process going forwardanothernick said:
Well that would be a novelty! The worst crisis since 1945 and the Tories offer us a temp! If a new PM wins a vote of confidence - quite a big if I would think - then they are in the job until the Commons or the electorate decides differently. Interim PM indeed - the idea is preposterous and an insult to the electorate. If the Tories are unable to govern in the usual way then they should resign and give the opposition a chance.Casino_Royale said:0 -
Unless the element in the room is polonium...HYUFD said:This rather misses the element in the room that May cannot be forced out against her will as under Tory leadership rules after the challenge last year she cannot be challenged again until December. Nor does it change the fact Parliament still needs to hold indicative votes on the way forward it wants to take on Brexit
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Who would they prefer - Lidington or Corbyn? That would be their choice if they want to VNOC Lidington. He would only be PM for a few weeks.Artist said:I don't see how any Tory Brexiteer would be happy with Lidington. Gove would be more palatable across the party and with the membership as well.
Gove will not be palatable to any of the many contenders.0 -
I'm not sure that's plausible. Threats don't work with her. May gets stubborn and inflexible under pressure, which is both a flaw and a strength. If threatened to resign she'll dig in her heels. If advised to resign by Philip she'll resign.Barnesian said:
If the Cabinet tell Mrs May that she has lost their confidence and should resign I think she would. Her position would be hopeless and she has run out of road. If she resigns and the Cabinet appoint Lidington as temporary PM and recommend him to the HM, she would appoint him. He would survive a VONC. Tory MPs and DUP would not want to risk a GE until the new Tory leader was sorted out.viewcode said:
Um, can she? She can't be forced to resign. Historically the process is:Barnesian said:
She can't be deposed as leader but she can be deposed as PM.HYUFD said:
It won't work, given she won the confidence vote late last year May cannot be challenged again until December. If she goes before then it will be entirely down to her and as we know she is as stubborn as a muleTheScreamingEagles said:
a) PM loses a VONC or GE.
b) Somebody else commands the confidence of the house
c) PM resigns
d) That somebody else is appointed PM by HMQ
Are we really going to put the Queen in a position where she has to appoint somebody whose ability to command the house is at the very least unproven?0 -
https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1109572143015174144
So after an interim PM, we get a full blown leadership contest, and a GE...0 -
If this is happening, its past due. May has very little support from anyone.0
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PM Hague from the Lords?
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In the extreme case, she could be VoNC by the Commons (in alliance with some Tory MPs) who then back a new administration run by Lidington within 14 days.viewcode said:
Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]
I somehow doubt the HoC will cobble together the votes for Jeremy Corbyn to be next PM.0 -
They might take the view that being interim reduces his chances, given that the interim has a rather invidious task ahead. And as a leading Leave campaigner Gove has more capital to spend with his own side than Lidlington.Barnesian said:
Who would they prefer - Lidington or Corbyn? That would be their choice if they want to VNOC Lidington. He would only be PM for a few weeks.Artist said:I don't see how any Tory Brexiteer would be happy with Lidington. Gove would be more palatable across the party and with the membership as well.
Gove will not be palatable to any of the many contenders.0 -
None are in the room where it happens - i.e. the Cabinet.GIN1138 said:
And Boris, Raab, DD and the ERG will go along with this because...???Casino_Royale said:0 -
Not if the DUP support the new leader.Scott_P said:https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1109572143015174144
So after an interim PM, we get a full blown leadership contest, and a GE...0 -
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Yes, unfortunately, when she took pride in being a bloody difficult woman, it wasn't like how Thatcher was - in a good way.viewcode said:
I'm not sure that's plausible. Threats don't work with her. May gets stubborn and inflexible under pressure, which is both a flaw and a strength. If threatened to resign she'll dig in her heels. If advised to resign by Philip she'll resign.Barnesian said:
If the Cabinet tell Mrs May that she has lost their confidence and should resign I think she would. Her position would be hopeless and she has run out of road. If she resigns and the Cabinet appoint Lidington as temporary PM and recommend him to the HM, she would appoint him. He would survive a VONC. Tory MPs and DUP would not want to risk a GE until the new Tory leader was sorted out.viewcode said:
Um, can she? She can't be forced to resign. Historically the process is:Barnesian said:
She can't be deposed as leader but she can be deposed as PM.HYUFD said:
It won't work, given she won the confidence vote late last year May cannot be challenged again until December. If she goes before then it will be entirely down to her and as we know she is as stubborn as a muleTheScreamingEagles said:
a) PM loses a VONC or GE.
b) Somebody else commands the confidence of the house
c) PM resigns
d) That somebody else is appointed PM by HMQ
Are we really going to put the Queen in a position where she has to appoint somebody whose ability to command the house is at the very least unproven?0 -
I thought Douglas-Home, but he was Foreign Secretary first. It'll probably have to be the pre-WWII ones.dixiedean said:Who was the last PM not to have been an election winning LOTO, nor a former holder of one of the big 3 posts.
Ps, not a quiz question, a genuine inquiry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Douglas-Home0 -
Labour missing the Wise?Scott_P said:0 -
The idea that in 2019 this country can be governed by a Prime Minister who has not been voted for by anyone is simply outrageous.
The Tories are treating this country and our democracy as a play thing.
Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.0 -
She wouldn’t be able to stay if there was a mass resignation. Personally I think she has had a difficult balance to strike and had done ok until recently. She has now lost control with the situation beyond her. Her inability to make a decision is now the problem. There is no longer time for delay.viewcode said:
Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]0 -
When was the last time a party that was ahead in the polls changed leader?
EDIT: Of course, it was the Tories and Cameron to May.0 -
They will never back the Deal.Scott_P said:0 -
2016 - When May succeeded Cameron.tlg86 said:When was the last time a party that was ahead in the polls changed leader?
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This is why the EU gave us a 2 week extension- so that we could get a new Prime Minister0
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Ramsay Macdonald as PM in 1923, but not leader of largest party?dixiedean said:Who was the last PM not to have been an election winning LOTO, nor a former holder of one of the big 3 posts.
Ps, not a quiz question, a genuine inquiry.0 -
And ahead only because of the leader they are changing!tlg86 said:When was the last time a party that was ahead in the polls changed leader?
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They probably will on the Exit vote IF a new leader can bring the house with them. As regards the confidence & supply deal its not likely to go anywhere.ralphmalph said:
Not if the DUP support the new leader.Scott_P said:https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1109572143015174144
So after an interim PM, we get a full blown leadership contest, and a GE...0 -
It's really nice to get back to the betting on this site.
Everyone is on the same side when it's about that.0 -
Too clever. This is coming from Cabinet, not May. And it doesnt swing the DUP.Scott_P said:0 -
Yeah, just worked it out. Still, whilst most people close to politics think little of May, I think she does have respect from a decent number of people in the country. Tricky times for the Tories.TheScreamingEagles said:
2016 - When May succeeded Cameron.tlg86 said:When was the last time a party that was ahead in the polls changed leader?
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Who is behind this, exactly?
In unrelated news, the Telegraph and Spectator were both bigging up Times man Gove during the week. Gove's missus put out a provocative tweet about Leavers fearing being lynched.
But who is, or are, Shipman's sources?0 -
Can Lidington win a VONC? What can he give to DUP to get them to vote for him?Casino_Royale said:
In the extreme case, she could be VoNC by the Commons (in alliance with some Tory MPs) who then back a new administration run by Lidington within 14 days.viewcode said:
Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]
I somehow doubt the HoC will cobble together the votes for Jeremy Corbyn to be next PM.0 -
And I doubt if the ERG/DUP would support a confidence vote in a remainer who had not been elected under the party rules.viewcode said:
I'm not sure that's plausible. Threats don't work with her. May gets stubborn and inflexible under pressure, which is both a flaw and a strength. If threatened to resign she'll dig in her heels. If advised to resign by Philip she'll resign.Barnesian said:
If the Cabinet tell Mrs May that she has lost their confidence and should resign I think she would. Her position would be hopeless and she has run out of road. If she resigns and the Cabinet appoint Lidington as temporary PM and recommend him to the HM, she would appoint him. He would survive a VONC. Tory MPs and DUP would not want to risk a GE until the new Tory leader was sorted out.viewcode said:
Um, can she? She can't be forced to resign. Historically the process is:Barnesian said:
She can't be deposed as leader but she can be deposed as PM.HYUFD said:
It won't work, given she won the confidence vote late last year May cannot be challenged again until December. If she goes before then it will be entirely down to her and as we know she is as stubborn as a muleTheScreamingEagles said:
a) PM loses a VONC or GE.
b) Somebody else commands the confidence of the house
c) PM resigns
d) That somebody else is appointed PM by HMQ
Are we really going to put the Queen in a position where she has to appoint somebody whose ability to command the house is at the very least unproven?
I think we are about to witness the long-predicted Tory implosion.0 -
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Telegraph is saying and speculatively so, that it is the remainer cabinet ministers forcing this and that is why Liddington has been put forward.DecrepitJohnL said:Who is behind this, exactly?
In unrelated news, the Telegraph and Spectator were both bigging up Times man Gove during the week. Gove's missus put out a provocative tweet about Leavers fearing being lynched.
But who is, or are, Shipman's sources?0 -
Perhaps he will advise itviewcode said:
I'm not sure that's plausible. Threats don't work with her. May gets stubborn and inflexible under pressure, which is both a flaw and a strength. If threatened to resign she'll dig in her heels. If advised to resign by Philip she'll resign.Barnesian said:
If the Cabinet tell Mrs May that she has lost their confidence and should resign I think she would. Her position would be hopeless and she has run out of road. If she resigns and the Cabinet appoint Lidington as temporary PM and recommend him to the HM, she would appoint him. He would survive a VONC. Tory MPs and DUP would not want to risk a GE until the new Tory leader was sorted out.viewcode said:
Um, can she? She can't be forced to resign. Historically the process is:Barnesian said:
She can't be deposed as leader but she can be deposed as PM.HYUFD said:
It won't work, given she won the confidence vote late last year May cannot be challenged again until December. If she goes before then it will be entirely down to her and as we know she is as stubborn as a muleTheScreamingEagles said:
a) PM loses a VONC or GE.
b) Somebody else commands the confidence of the house
c) PM resigns
d) That somebody else is appointed PM by HMQ
Are we really going to put the Queen in a position where she has to appoint somebody whose ability to command the house is at the very least unproven?0 -
Expel every Catholic from the six counties?viewcode said:
Can Lidington win a VONC? What can he give to DUP to get them to vote for him?Casino_Royale said:
In the extreme case, she could be VoNC by the Commons (in alliance with some Tory MPs) who then back a new administration run by Lidington within 14 days.viewcode said:
Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]
I somehow doubt the HoC will cobble together the votes for Jeremy Corbyn to be next PM.
Bring back the death penalty for homosexuals in Northern Ireland?0 -
An new election would be unlikely to leave the DUP as kingmakers again.viewcode said:
Can Lidington win a VONC? What can he give to DUP to get them to vote for him?Casino_Royale said:
In the extreme case, she could be VoNC by the Commons (in alliance with some Tory MPs) who then back a new administration run by Lidington within 14 days.viewcode said:
Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]
I somehow doubt the HoC will cobble together the votes for Jeremy Corbyn to be next PM.
So, why would they want an election?0 -
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Well at least in 2016 there was some sort vote of the PCP. This would simply be a few people in room deciding who should become PM of a country.RobD said:
Erm, that happened in 2016GIN1138 said:The idea that in 2019 this country can be governed by a Prime Minister who has not been voted for by anyone is simply outrageous.
The Tories are treating this country and our democracy as a play thing.
Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.
Its really not on.0 -
Sounds like the best candidate is just "the concept of disappointment".Scott_P said:0 -
That rules me out then.solarflare said:
Sounds like the best candidate is just "the concept of disappointment".Scott_P said:0 -
So long as it's not bloody Boris or one of the ERG mob.
If they want an interim PM to get some goodwill and, importantly, time from Brussels while we work out what the hell we want to do, there is only one man.
Ken Clarke.
And, yeah, I know all the objections. But he has been a rare voice of sanity in recent weeks and has been loyal. We need someone experienced not any of the numpties and loons currently masquerading as Cabinet Ministers. And he might have a chance of getting some cross-party consensus on the way forward.
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There seems to be this idea that the DUP is looking for a lot. It isn't. It was interested in May's deal subject to some side assurances.viewcode said:
Can Lidington win a VONC? What can he give to DUP to get them to vote for him?Casino_Royale said:
In the extreme case, she could be VoNC by the Commons (in alliance with some Tory MPs) who then back a new administration run by Lidington within 14 days.viewcode said:
Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]
I somehow doubt the HoC will cobble together the votes for Jeremy Corbyn to be next PM.0 -
Who said Essex girls aren't politically engaged ?!?Peter_the_Punter said:@Casino
Fwiw, there were a lot of dogs there. Dogs Against Brexit seems to be a significant pressure group.
I'll get my coat and banner ..
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And 2007, 1990, 1976...the clue is in the phrase “Parliamentary Democracy”. We elect MPs who, in turn, appoint the MP. If you want a presidential system, fine, but good luck with persuading the electorate to boot out Liz.RobD said:
Erm, that happened in 2016GIN1138 said:The idea that in 2019 this country can be governed by a Prime Minister who has not been voted for by anyone is simply outrageous.
The Tories are treating this country and our democracy as a play thing.
Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.0 -
And Henry Campbell-Bannerman, in 1905, as last time not to take power as result of an election, on the other criteria you setCommentator said:
Ramsay Macdonald as PM in 1923, but not leader of largest party?dixiedean said:Who was the last PM not to have been an election winning LOTO, nor a former holder of one of the big 3 posts.
Ps, not a quiz question, a genuine inquiry.0 -
Brown never won an election. John Major became PM with no election mandate. Callaghan never won an election. Douglas-Home never won an election. Eden (I think) never won an election...GIN1138 said:The idea that in 2019 this country can be governed by a Prime Minister who has not been voted for by anyone is simply outrageous.
The Tories are treating this country and our democracy as a play thing.
Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.0 -
Good spot. Neither LOTO or former holder of one of the big 3 means Victorian times then, I presume?Commentator said:
Ramsay Macdonald as PM in 1923, but not leader of largest party?dixiedean said:Who was the last PM not to have been an election winning LOTO, nor a former holder of one of the big 3 posts.
Ps, not a quiz question, a genuine inquiry.0 -
Lidington would ignore the DUP and ERG, he would do a deal with Labour and the LDs and SNP to implement SM and/or CU BINO in the PD in return for their support to pass the WA after the meaningful votes and then hold a general election once the Tories have elected a new leader in the autumn. That would enable a Lidington government to survive a VONC for now even if the ERG and DUP voted against itviewcode said:
Can Lidington win a VONC? What can he give to DUP to get them to vote for him?Casino_Royale said:
In the extreme case, she could be VoNC by the Commons (in alliance with some Tory MPs) who then back a new administration run by Lidington within 14 days.viewcode said:
Which brings me back to my original question: how can May be forced to resign? She won't go voluntarily.edmundintokyo said:Everybody in the Cabinet: It's over, you have to go
TMay: No
[if she goes voluntarily in the next 24 hours, please feel free to hit me with a large haddock]
I somehow doubt the HoC will cobble together the votes for Jeremy Corbyn to be next PM.0 -
That would cheer me up, if my winnings on Lidington didn't materialise.anothernick said:
And I doubt if the ERG/DUP would support a confidence vote in a remainer who had not been elected under the party rules.viewcode said:
I'm not sure that's plausible. Threats don't work with her. May gets stubborn and inflexible under pressure, which is both a flaw and a strength. If threatened to resign she'll dig in her heels. If advised to resign by Philip she'll resign.Barnesian said:
If the Cabinet tell Mrs May that she has lost their confidence and should resign I think she would. Her position would be hopeless and she has run out of road. If she resigns and the Cabinet appoint Lidington as temporary PM and recommend him to the HM, she would appoint him. He would survive a VONC. Tory MPs and DUP would not want to risk a GE until the new Tory leader was sorted out.viewcode said:
Um, can she? She can't be forced to resign. Historically the process is:Barnesian said:
She can't be deposed as leader but she can be deposed as PM.HYUFD said:
It won't work, given she won the confidence vote late last year May cannot be challenged again until December. If she goes before then it will be entirely down to her and as we know she is as stubborn as a muleTheScreamingEagles said:
a) PM loses a VONC or GE.
b) Somebody else commands the confidence of the house
c) PM resigns
d) That somebody else is appointed PM by HMQ
Are we really going to put the Queen in a position where she has to appoint somebody whose ability to command the house is at the very least unproven?
I think we are about to witness the long-predicted Tory implosion.0 -
May has to go not because there is someone more popular than her but because she has lost all trust and goodwill with the EU. And that is what we are going to need at the moment.TheScreamingEagles said:
That rules me out then.solarflare said:
Sounds like the best candidate is just "the concept of disappointment".Scott_P said:
Taking Back Control, I think it's called.
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I genuinely think that if May goes now and we get the nine month extension Brexit will not happen.IanB2 said:Gove. Government manages indicative votes. Gove runs with the outcome (probably soft Brexit, CU etc). Probable nine month extension. Euro elections. Referendum still possible but unlikely.
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