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This morning the Peterborough MP Fiona Onasanya, who won the seat for LAB from CON at GE2017, lost her appeal against her conviction and is now facing recall petition. This was a process introduced by Nick Clegg during the coalition and allows constituents to demand that their MP be recalled provided that 10% of the total numbers on the electoral in the constituency demand one and one of a number of conditions is met.
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Nick Clegg Rocks!!!!!!!
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Lump on the tiggers if they are registered in time0
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Tiggers split Lab vote and Con wins.dyedwoolie said:Lump on the tiggers if they are registered in time
Been here before...0 -
Splitters!dyedwoolie said:Lump on the tiggers if they are registered in time
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There look to be at least six Leave-leaning parties standing in Peterborough, should there be a by-election. Labour should keep the seat comfortably.0
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Presumably, she'll run as an independent, in order to get severance pay.0
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Disagree. Brexit fallout, anti semitism and Vince's inability to inspire cats to sleep. Something new, by election, punish the establishment, first run out for the bouncers. Tigger 40%GIN1138 said:
Tiggers split Lab vote and Con wins.dyedwoolie said:Lump on the tiggers if they are registered in time
Been here before...0 -
Are Labour not part of that six?AlastairMeeks said:There look to be at least six Leave-leaning parties standing in Peterborough, should there be a by-election. Labour should keep the seat comfortably.
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Peterborough is Crosby0
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This is deluded. The TIGgers are not going to sweep Brexit-y Peterborough or Newport West.dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
Two lost deposits is much more likely.0 -
dyedwoolie said:
Disagree. Brexit fallout, anti semitism and Vince's inability to inspire cats to sleep. Something new, by election, punish the establishment, first run out for the bouncers. Tigger 40%GIN1138 said:
Tiggers split Lab vote and Con wins.dyedwoolie said:Lump on the tiggers if they are registered in time
Been here before...
Maybe they'll go for a high profile/celeb candidate? 0 -
I am sure that the Labour party will have a Brexit-y candidate for Peterborough.MaxPB said:
Are Labour not part of that six?AlastairMeeks said:There look to be at least six Leave-leaning parties standing in Peterborough, should there be a by-election. Labour should keep the seat comfortably.
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Eh ?dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Crosby_by-electionPulpstar said:
Eh ?dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
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Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html0 -
Is it time for Eddie Izzard to finally win something that is voted on?GIN1138 said:dyedwoolie said:
Disagree. Brexit fallout, anti semitism and Vince's inability to inspire cats to sleep. Something new, by election, punish the establishment, first run out for the bouncers. Tigger 40%GIN1138 said:
Tiggers split Lab vote and Con wins.dyedwoolie said:Lump on the tiggers if they are registered in time
Been here before...
Maybe they'll go for a high profile/celeb candidate?0 -
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html0 -
The by election will either be after Brexit or after whatever way we are leaving is decided. It will not be a Brexit by election, although the nature of our departure might cost the blues 10% or so of remain minded bluesYBarddCwsc said:
This is deluded. The TIGgers are not going to sweep Brexit-y Peterborough or Newport West.dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
Two lost deposits is much more likely.0 -
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
Isn't Eddie committed to Jezza?ralphmalph said:
Is it time for Eddie Izzard to finally win something that is voted on?GIN1138 said:dyedwoolie said:
Disagree. Brexit fallout, anti semitism and Vince's inability to inspire cats to sleep. Something new, by election, punish the establishment, first run out for the bouncers. Tigger 40%GIN1138 said:
Tiggers split Lab vote and Con wins.dyedwoolie said:Lump on the tiggers if they are registered in time
Been here before...
Maybe they'll go for a high profile/celeb candidate? 0 -
Grayling should try and double up !Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
Surely she won't get much; only been in the House five minutes.Sean_F said:Presumably, she'll run as an independent, in order to get severance pay.
Anyone else recall Willie Hamilton, the republican Scottish Labour MP for Fife Central who was replaced as candidate on reaching 70, then realised if he didn't fight an election he'd lose money. So he fought South Hams, a safe Tory seat, now divided between Totnes and West Devon, but because he fought was classed as a defeated MP and picked up some cash.
To be fair, AIUI, he wasn't by any means a wealthy man.0 -
Would it be up to Grayling to pursue or would the courts chase him for the money anyway?DougSeal said:
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
AC Grayling is a complete tosser, but casually chucking out fake accusations of paedophilia is pretty repulsive. No sympathy.0
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He can be made bankrupt, although he may be a man of straw.tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html0 -
Well that will be one bankruptcy that nobody can say wasn't anything to do with Brexit.DougSeal said:
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
It's up to Grayling.williamglenn said:
Would it be up to Grayling to pursue or would the courts chase him for the money anyway?DougSeal said:
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
The Musk gambit, not recommended unless one is a multi billionaire.Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html0 -
It's up to Grayling. The judgment is effectively a piece of paper proving that North owes him money. There are various enforcement routes to go through before he gets him before the bankruptcy court.williamglenn said:
Would it be up to Grayling to pursue or would the courts chase him for the money anyway?DougSeal said:
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
Does Grayling have to pay his legal bills whilst chasing Mr North?DougSeal said:
It's up to Grayling. The judgment is effectively a piece of paper proving that North owes him money. There are various enforcement routes to go through before he gets him before the bankruptcy court.williamglenn said:
Would it be up to Grayling to pursue or would the courts chase him for the money anyway?DougSeal said:
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
Or you have no assets that are available to creditors.Theuniondivvie said:
The Musk gambit, not recommended unless one is a multi billionaire.Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html0 -
Probably. Depends on the terms of the engagement (a contract) between Grayling and his solicitors.ralphmalph said:
Does Grayling has to pay his legal bills whilst chasing Mr North?DougSeal said:
It's up to Grayling. The judgment is effectively a piece of paper proving that North owes him money. There are various enforcement routes to go through before he gets him before the bankruptcy court.williamglenn said:
Would it be up to Grayling to pursue or would the courts chase him for the money anyway?DougSeal said:
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
Yes, unless he has very generous solicitors.ralphmalph said:
Does Grayling have to pay his legal bills whilst chasing Mr North?DougSeal said:
It's up to Grayling. The judgment is effectively a piece of paper proving that North owes him money. There are various enforcement routes to go through before he gets him before the bankruptcy court.williamglenn said:
Would it be up to Grayling to pursue or would the courts chase him for the money anyway?DougSeal said:
Grayling will bankrupt him if he doesn't pay. It's not a "fine" it's damages. It's now a debt that he has admitted he can't pay so, if that's true, the logical next step is to petition for his bankruptcy.Gardenwalker said:
I don’t know. Contempt of court?tlg86 said:
What happens if he doesn't cough up the money?Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
Also, there’s this:
As to my legal obligations as per the judgement, I make no promises that I won't take the piss out of AC Grayling ever again, though his total insignificance probably means I have bigger fish to fry. As far as an apology goes, I will never apologise for taking the mick out of public lunatics - especially leaders of political campaigns - but I can at least understand how a man who looks and sounds like Grayling would be sensitive to the inference that he is a paedophile.0 -
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I would hope that all Tory Party members who condone Islamophobia have already fucked off to EDL/UKIP/BNPCarlottaVance said:0 -
But the Salade au Chlorine is still on....Scott_P said:0 -
Thinking about it, with a judgment under his belt showing that the earlier tweet was defamatory, Grayling could claim that the latest blog post by North is part of a "course of conduct" which causes him to suffer alarm, anxiety and/or distress, thus creating scope for an injunction restraining North under the Protection from Harassment Act, or even a report to the police.0
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In news that will shock nobody, Brexiters just keep lying.
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Why do I know the name Pete North? My recollection is that it's from a couple of years ago and he said something very embarrassing about Brexit.Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html0 -
Islamophobia is a daft term because it conflates two ideas, one of which is abhorrent, and the other of which is essential for free expression in a democracy.
The former is the practice of discriminating against people based on their religion, which is obviously wrong. The latter is allowing intellectual questioning, satire, and so forth about an idea (which happens to be religious).0 -
Funny that you mention that:CarlottaVance said:
But the Salade au Chlorine is still on....Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/BpsmithUk/status/1101994462971088896?s=19
The reason that Chlorine chicken is dangerous is not the chlorine, it is the substandard hygiene necessitating chlorine:
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So you would disapprove of whipping up untrue fears of millions of Muslims being poised to descend on the UK?Morris_Dancer said:Islamophobia is a daft term because it conflates two ideas, one of which is abhorrent, and the other of which is essential for free expression in a democracy.
The former is the practice of discriminating against people based on their religion, which is obviously wrong. The latter is allowing intellectual questioning, satire, and so forth about an idea (which happens to be religious).0 -
Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
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Could Journalists please ask for evidence to back up clearly fictional stories...Gardenwalker said:In news that will shock nobody, Brexiters just keep lying.
https://twitter.com/brexit/status/1102888826857414656?s=210 -
And Salade au Chlore sounds enticing.CarlottaVance said:
But the Salade au Chlorine is still on....Scott_P said:
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It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.0 -
I'd certainly consider them to be ascending rather than descending here, if they're on their way from Erdogan's Turkey.AlastairMeeks said:
So you would disapprove of whipping up untrue fears of millions of Muslims being poised to descend on the UK?Morris_Dancer said:Islamophobia is a daft term because it conflates two ideas, one of which is abhorrent, and the other of which is essential for free expression in a democracy.
The former is the practice of discriminating against people based on their religion, which is obviously wrong. The latter is allowing intellectual questioning, satire, and so forth about an idea (which happens to be religious).0 -
My prediction would be that the recall petition will be successful and Labour will lose the seat at the by-election, but it's difficult to forecast which party will win it.0
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Didn't I mention a while back that production of the next generation Juke has been delayed 6 months and I cannot find any evidence of commitment that the next version will be built in Sunderland...Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.0 -
She would need to find ten people in the constituency willing to sign her nomination papers. In the circumstances I hope that she finds that difficult.Sean_F said:Presumably, she'll run as an independent, in order to get severance pay.
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There must be 10 Russians passing through.....OblitusSumMe said:
She would need to find ten people in the constituency willing to sign her nomination papers. In the circumstances I hope that she finds that difficult.Sean_F said:Presumably, she'll run as an independent, in order to get severance pay.
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Why are US Campylobacteriosis rates fractions of European ones?Foxy said:The reason that Chlorine chicken is dangerous is not the chlorine, it is the substandard hygiene necessitating chlorine:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X15010253
Complaints about US Chicken always focus on Salmonella and not Campylobacter......odd, that....0 -
Mr. Divvie, are you suggesting that declining diesel sales and the EU-Japan FTA have had no impact?
You might argue that the UK (perhaps) leaving the EU is the biggest factor, but pretending the others don't exist or are negligible is wearing blinkers.0 -
"Brexit thinker"? !! Today's best oxymoron award.Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html0 -
The quality of food here in the US, especially “fresh” meat, fish and vegetables in the supermarkets, is appalling. We can afford to buy a lot of our food from farmers’ markets but even that isn’t particularly good.Foxy said:
Funny that you mention that:CarlottaVance said:
But the Salade au Chlorine is still on....Scott_P said:
twitter.com/BpsmithUk/status/1101994462971088896?s=19
The reason that Chlorine chicken is dangerous is not the chlorine, it is the substandard hygiene necessitating chlorine:
twitter.com/BpsmithUk/status/1101925348726489088?s=190 -
In First Past the Post, they could win on a very modest vote share.YBarddCwsc said:
This is deluded. The TIGgers are not going to sweep Brexit-y Peterborough or Newport West.dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
Two lost deposits is much more likely.
Imagine that the LibDems don't stand, but that there is Labour, Conservative, UKIP and the Brexit Party. This means that even if 70% of the electorate made clear their preference for Brexit, TIG could be elected on 30% of the vote.
Likely?
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If this is the case then the rules are daft. It would seem sensible to give stepping down MPs over 65 or 67 or whatever the same pay off as defeated MPs. OR ... if there is some sort of retirement-payoff then you should not be able to double-dip by claiming that as well as a defeated MP dividend.OldKingCole said:
Surely she won't get much; only been in the House five minutes.Sean_F said:Presumably, she'll run as an independent, in order to get severance pay.
Anyone else recall Willie Hamilton, the republican Scottish Labour MP for Fife Central who was replaced as candidate on reaching 70, then realised if he didn't fight an election he'd lose money. So he fought South Hams, a safe Tory seat, now divided between Totnes and West Devon, but because he fought was classed as a defeated MP and picked up some cash.
To be fair, AIUI, he wasn't by any means a wealthy man.0 -
It is quite depressing that we have to keep being reminded that the Tories once had a LoTO who is even thicker than Jeremy Corbyn.eek said:
Could Journalists please ask for evidence to back up clearly fictional stories...Gardenwalker said:In news that will shock nobody, Brexiters just keep lying.
https://twitter.com/brexit/status/1102888826857414656?s=210 -
Willie Hamilton was a while ago.1987. So the rules may have changed. Otherwise I agree with you.eristdoof said:
If this is the case then the rules are daft. It would seem sensible to give stepping down MPs over 65 or 67 or whatever the same pay off as defeated MPs. OR ... if there is some sort of retirement-payoff then you should not be able to double-dip by claiming that as well as a defeated MP dividend.OldKingCole said:
Surely she won't get much; only been in the House five minutes.Sean_F said:Presumably, she'll run as an independent, in order to get severance pay.
Anyone else recall Willie Hamilton, the republican Scottish Labour MP for Fife Central who was replaced as candidate on reaching 70, then realised if he didn't fight an election he'd lose money. So he fought South Hams, a safe Tory seat, now divided between Totnes and West Devon, but because he fought was classed as a defeated MP and picked up some cash.
To be fair, AIUI, he wasn't by any means a wealthy man.0 -
At the least it may be closer than anyone might have predicted.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Climate change.Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
The Board wouldn't give me the resources I/we needed.
Don't blame us - we're Scots.0 -
More nothing to do with Brexit news.Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1102921190526590977?s=210 -
It warms one's heart when the self-righteous get caught with their trousers down.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Well, that turned out well.....
https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1102973921949876229
https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/11029748375831633920 -
Mr. F, it's a sad day for personkind.0
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Any by election triggered will occur after Newport West and the Local Elections on 2nd May . TIG will not feature in either of those contests and I suspect that will make it difficult to gain momentum. Already they have largely disappeared from public view and the discussions with the Electoral Commission could well be an indication of panic .rcs1000 said:
In First Past the Post, they could win on a very modest vote share.YBarddCwsc said:
This is deluded. The TIGgers are not going to sweep Brexit-y Peterborough or Newport West.dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
Two lost deposits is much more likely.
Imagine that the LibDems don't stand, but that there is Labour, Conservative, UKIP and the Brexit Party. This means that even if 70% of the electorate made clear their preference for Brexit, TIG could be elected on 30% of the vote.
Likely?
No. But perfectly possible. I'd want the LibDems to decide not to stand, and 8-1.0 -
I hate it due to which side I'm on at the time.Sean_F said:
It warms one's heart when the self-righteous get caught with their trousers down.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Just found a reference; Fiona Onasanya hasn't been an MP for two years so won't get severance pay. Presumably she'll get paid as an MP up to the time the petition is accepted, and that'll be that.
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‘Thinker’ is perhaps more deserving of your inverted commas.Gardenwalker said:Oh dear.
“Leading” Brexit thinker Pete North is doubling down against AC Grayling, despite having just been fined £20k for libellous accusations of paedophilia.
http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html
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To be fair, it’s also possible that he’s just immensely thick when it comes to figures.Gardenwalker said:In news that will shock nobody, Brexiters just keep lying.
https://twitter.com/brexit/status/1102888826857414656?s=21
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Their main function now is to serve as a warning to Corbyn. Don't push us too far or more will join the Tiggers Watson will say.justin124 said:
Any by election triggered will occur after Newport West and the Local Elections on 2nd May . TIG will not feature in either of those contests and I suspect that will make it difficult to gain momentum. Already they have largely disappeared from public view and the discussions with the Electoral Commission could well be an indication of panic .rcs1000 said:
In First Past the Post, they could win on a very modest vote share.YBarddCwsc said:
This is deluded. The TIGgers are not going to sweep Brexit-y Peterborough or Newport West.dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
Two lost deposits is much more likely.
Imagine that the LibDems don't stand, but that there is Labour, Conservative, UKIP and the Brexit Party. This means that even if 70% of the electorate made clear their preference for Brexit, TIG could be elected on 30% of the vote.
Likely?
No. But perfectly possible. I'd want the LibDems to decide not to stand, and 8-1.0 -
Are you being ironic? The two places don't have much in common with each other demographically. Crosby has a lot of middle-class professionals, Peterborough doesn't, for instance.dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
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and hows that different to when PSA closed their factory in Coventry and transferred all the production to Slovakia in 2006 ?williamglenn said:
More nothing to do with Brexit news.Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1102921190526590977?s=210 -
By the time we get to a by-election, though, she'll probably have reached two years.OldKingCole said:Just found a reference; Fiona Onasanya hasn't been an MP for two years so won't get severance pay. Presumably she'll get paid as an MP up to the time the petition is accepted, and that'll be that.
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Explosive packages found at Heathrow, Waterloo and London City Airport
Counter-terror police are investigating three packages containing explosives found at Heathrow Airport, London City Airport and Waterloo station.
The "small improvised explosive devices" were found in A4 postal bags, the Metropolitan Police said.0 -
She'll have to last to 8th, possibly 9th of June, but I think the crucial point is when the seat is declared vacant, ie when the petition is accepted.Sean_F said:
By the time we get to a by-election, though, she'll probably have reached two years.OldKingCole said:Just found a reference; Fiona Onasanya hasn't been an MP for two years so won't get severance pay. Presumably she'll get paid as an MP up to the time the petition is accepted, and that'll be that.
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They’re both examples showing the importance of the EU single market to car manufacturing.Alanbrooke said:
and hows that different to when PSA closed their factory in Coventry and transferred all the production to Slovakia in 2006 ?williamglenn said:
More nothing to do with Brexit news.Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1102921190526590977?s=210 -
No theyre simply examples of how Anglo saxon unprotected labour rules are incompatible with the EU. The brits are always first to get shat on when multinats need to make pan European savings.williamglenn said:
They’re both examples showing the importance of the EU single market to car manufacturing.Alanbrooke said:
and hows that different to when PSA closed their factory in Coventry and transferred all the production to Slovakia in 2006 ?williamglenn said:
More nothing to do with Brexit news.Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1102921190526590977?s=210 -
Definitely shows the EU weren't working in Britain's interest that's for sure.williamglenn said:
They’re both examples showing the importance of the EU single market to car manufacturing.Alanbrooke said:
and hows that different to when PSA closed their factory in Coventry and transferred all the production to Slovakia in 2006 ?williamglenn said:
More nothing to do with Brexit news.Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1102921190526590977?s=210 -
True. The impact of the Single Market can be benign, or it can be malign.williamglenn said:
They’re both examples showing the importance of the EU single market to car manufacturing.Alanbrooke said:
and hows that different to when PSA closed their factory in Coventry and transferred all the production to Slovakia in 2006 ?williamglenn said:
More nothing to do with Brexit news.Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1102921190526590977?s=210 -
The usual gadflies have turned up to get their excuses in.0
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We'll have to give you that that wasn't anything to do with Brexit. But why do you bring it up?Alanbrooke said:
and hows that different to when PSA closed their factory in Coventry and transferred all the production to Slovakia in 2006 ?williamglenn said:
More nothing to do with Brexit news.Gardenwalker said:
It’s most unusual that it’s happening at the same time. What an eerie coincidence!Theuniondivvie said:Top excuses that aren't Brexit?
Diesel.
They wuz going to do it anyway.
EU-Japan free trade deal.
Global uncertainty.
Any more?
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102965059611955200
It’s almost as if there’s some kind of government policy to de-industrialise.
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1102921190526590977?s=210 -
Yet another damning letter of resignation from a former close colleague of Corbyn
How can any sensible Labour member not follow suit and walk away from this toxic mess?
https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/dear-jeremy-corbyn-richard-horton-resignation-letter-1.4810170 -
Crosby has a nice sea front !AndyJS said:
Are you being ironic? The two places don't have much in common with each other demographically. Crosby has a lot of middle-class professionals, Peterborough doesn't, for instance.dyedwoolie said:Peterborough is Crosby
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The analogy between Crosby and Peterborough, if it is intended to be an analogy between the SDP and the TIG, breaks down because there is no Shirley Williams figure, a supporter of the TIG who is a well known former MP. Or is there?0
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appears to be calling for Lord Falconer to resign at the end of the piece...CarlottaVance said:
now that would be unprecedented.0 -
Ed Balls could stand as a TIGger?agingjb said:The analogy between Crosby and Peterborough, if it is intended to be an analogy between the SDP and the TIG, breaks down because there is no Shirley Williams figure, a supporter of the TIG who is a well known former MP. Or is there?
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Is there any real sign yet that a meaningful vote will be lost by less than 150?Scott_P said:0 -
I think if Farage and Blair both stood in Peterborough, Farage would get more votes.Sean_F said:
Maybe Tony Blair could standagingjb said:The analogy between Crosby and Peterborough, if it is intended to be an analogy between the SDP and the TIG, breaks down because there is no Shirley Williams figure, a supporter of the TIG who is a well known former MP. Or is there?
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