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So, a few silly online comments after a few drinks, as opposed to the best part of a decade working his arse off to get poor kids into top universities to give them opportunities they would otherwise not have had in life?IanB2 said:
He spends a lot of time in that article defending himself against charges of his choosing. He was considered unsuitable principally because of his crude sexist and racist comments, to which his only defence appears to be that he was drunk. Drink loosens inhibitions and may have prompted him to reveal his real attitudes, which isn't much of a defence.Sandpit said:
A few dodgy Tweets from years ago is insignificant, when compared to his more recent several years’ experience running schools and an educational charity.TOPPING said:
It is a lynch mob, but looking at that DM front page and some of the tweets, and as Young himself accepts, I am not 100% sure I would want someone who is capable of making some of those comments in a position of influence in education.Sandpit said:
That’s a very sad, but wonderfully well written and eloquent piece.SeanT said:Incidentally, this is a rather fine and shocking piece by Toby Young (an old acquaintance of mine).
I was aware that he was forced to step down from the QAUNGO role, because of the monstering he got on Twitter and elsewhere.
I was unaware that as a consequence he lost ALL his positions, and his entire career was ruined, overnight. Just astonishing. And sobering. Whether you are on the left OR the right, these lynchings are horrible. They need to STOP.
https://quillette.com/2018/07/23/the-public-humiliation-diet/
Hopefully the febrile online lynch mob will be tamed eventually, but it’s hard to see how it doesn’t get worse before it gets better. The question is what will it take for them to deflect their attention towards actual abusers, and away from satirical and self-deprecating writers?
I would repeat some of those tweets by way of illustration but I simply cannot as they are too offensive even to repeat to make a point.0 -
I wouldn't think it a particularly effective solution to globalisation, but for long enough it would be a popular and populist one.stodge said:
Oddly enough, as others have said, Corbyn's vision of a "Workers' Brexit" will have plenty of followers and sounds superficially attractive. It speaks directly to a constituency which May has tried to charm since 2016 - the "working man".TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked that Corbyn wants to undo one of Mrs Thatcher’s finest achievements.
I am sure it is nothing to do with the single market rules would stop some of Corbyn’s hard left economic policies.
The fact the ERG and other Tories are cheering him along should give all Tory leavers pause for thought, alas their Europhobia is just too strong.
If you voted LEAVE to try to slow or halt globalisation, Corbyn is talking to you.0 -
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I am far more concerned at what is yet another u-turn after the zillions of u-turns we have had these past few months.MarqueeMark said:
Done as the House rises for the summer.....williamglenn said:
A Remainer is in sole charge of Brexit. What could possibly go wrong?
Appoints a Brexit minister then tells him to get to Falkirk within what, 48 hours?0 -
TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC0 -
Surely it’s just a continuation of her long-standing policy of humiliating anyone who could be a threat?TOPPING said:
I am far more concerned at what is yet another u-turn after the zillions of u-turns we have had these past few months.MarqueeMark said:
Done as the House rises for the summer.....williamglenn said:
A Remainer is in sole charge of Brexit. What could possibly go wrong?
Appoints a Brexit minister then tells him to get to Falkirk within what, 48 hours?0 -
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?0 -
Realised with horror that Raab might not have been as useless and ineffective as Davis and hence he had to go.williamglenn said:
Surely it’s just a continuation of her long-standing policy of humiliating anyone who could be a threat?TOPPING said:
I am far more concerned at what is yet another u-turn after the zillions of u-turns we have had these past few months.MarqueeMark said:
Done as the House rises for the summer.....williamglenn said:
A Remainer is in sole charge of Brexit. What could possibly go wrong?
Appoints a Brexit minister then tells him to get to Falkirk within what, 48 hours?0 -
A bit more contrition rather than feeling sorry for himself wouldn't harm himSandpit said:
So, a few silly online comments after a few drinks, as opposed to the best part of a decade working his arse off to get poor kids into top universities to give them opportunities they would otherwise not have had in life?IanB2 said:
He spends a lot of time in that article defending himself against charges of his choosing. He was considered unsuitable principally because of his crude sexist and racist comments, to which his only defence appears to be that he was drunk. Drink loosens inhibitions and may have prompted him to reveal his real attitudes, which isn't much of a defence.Sandpit said:
A few dodgy Tweets from years ago is insignificant, when compared to his more recent several years’ experience running schools and an educational charity.TOPPING said:
It is a lynch mob, but looking at that DM front page and some of the tweets, and as Young himself accepts, I am not 100% sure I would want someone who is capable of making some of those comments in a position of influence in education.Sandpit said:
That’s a very sad, but wonderfully well written and eloquent piece.SeanT said:Incidentally, this is a rather fine and shocking piece by Toby Young (an old acquaintance of mine).
I was aware that he was forced to step down from the QAUNGO role, because of the monstering he got on Twitter and elsewhere.
I was unaware that as a consequence he lost ALL his positions, and his entire career was ruined, overnight. Just astonishing. And sobering. Whether you are on the left OR the right, these lynchings are horrible. They need to STOP.
https://quillette.com/2018/07/23/the-public-humiliation-diet/
Hopefully the febrile online lynch mob will be tamed eventually, but it’s hard to see how it doesn’t get worse before it gets better. The question is what will it take for them to deflect their attention towards actual abusers, and away from satirical and self-deprecating writers?
I would repeat some of those tweets by way of illustration but I simply cannot as they are too offensive even to repeat to make a point.0 -
Will of the people, innit...rottenborough said:Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.
Have we all lost our minds?0 -
Price worth paying.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
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You'd better get some chickens.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?0 -
It does seem like it - I am really having doubts over this. TM needs a deal quickly or the HOC must set aside party politics and ensure this is stopped and either A50 is delayed or a second referendum takes placerottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?0 -
Do you think that's the plan ?Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC0 -
Surely Young's piece starts off by talking about James Gunn who was brought down by right wingers.nielh said:
Hes right about this being mccarthyism. People should be able to say what they want. They should be able to apologise for things they said in the past.surby said:
He deserves every bit he has got.El_Capitano said:
Quite. Young called people "functionally illiterate troglodytes with a mental age of six", "small, vaguely deformed undergraduates replete with acne and anoraks", "a bunch of lesbians [who] looked like German shot-putters", etc. etc.ñTOPPING said:
It is a lynch mob, but looking at that DM front page and some of the tweets, and as Young himself accepts, I am not 100% sure I would want someone who is capable of making some of those comments in a position of influence in education.Sandpit said:
That’s a very sad, but wonderfully well written and eloquent piece.SeanT said:Incidentally, this is a rather fine and shocking piece by Toby Young (an old acquaintance of mine).
I was aware that he was forced to step down from the QAUNGO role, because of the monstering he got on Twitter and elsewhere.
I was unaware that as a consequence he lost ALL his positions, and his entire career was ruined, overnight. Just astonishing. And sobering. Whether you are on the left OR the right, these lynchings are horrible. They need to STOP.
https://quillette.com/2018/07/23/the-public-humiliation-diet/
Hopefully the febrile online lynch mob will be tamed eventually, but it’s hard to see how it doesn’t get worse before it gets better. The question is what will it take for them to deflect their attention towards actual abusers, and away from satirical and self-deprecating writers?
I would repeat some of those tweets by way of illustration but I simply cannot as they are too offensive even to repeat to make a point.
This wasn't a one-off like Justine Sacco tweeting and then getting in a plane to South Africa, which I fully agree was a lynch-mob mentality. This is a guy whose shtick for many years has been "professional contrarian", like a slightly more eloquent Brendan O'Neill. Unfortunately for him, those who live by the sword die by the sword.
The alt liberal/left tyranny is worse than the right wing tyranny, which is pretty benign by comparison.0 -
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
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The ultra nutjobs don't have the votes to force a VNOC. Time she faced them down.surby said:
Do you think that's the plan ?Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC0 -
I hope someone is going to put a stop to this national humiliationsurby said:
Do you think that's the plan ?Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC0 -
Our neighbour has some, we can trade courgettes for eggs if needs be.Sean_F said:
You'd better get some chickens.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?0 -
Christ. Dominic "Adequate Food" Raab.
What a political epitaph.
DO NOT PANIC, child. The government isn't stockpiling food, it's merely ensuring that food gets piled in stocks.0 -
Need both to be honest as the timing for a 2nd vote is really really tight, even if the process starts tomorrow.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It does seem like it - I am really having doubts over this. TM needs a deal quickly or the HOC must set aside party politics and ensure this is stopped and either A50 is delayed or a second referendum takes placerottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
Getting A50 extension is a nightmare iirc. All 27 countries must agree.0 -
‘What could possibly go right?’ is a more difficult question to answer.MarqueeMark said:
Done as the House rises for the summer.....williamglenn said:
A Remainer is in sole charge of Brexit. What could possibly go wrong?0 -
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
I’m going to urge JohnO to start deselection proceedings against Raab.grabcocque said:Christ.
Dominic "Adequate Food" Raab.
What a political epitaph.
He’s making David Davis look good.
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Can't keep them. There is some old covenant on the land my house is built on.Sean_F said:
You'd better get some chickens.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
Not sure about pigs though.
But anyway I am veggie.
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If Brexit leads to end of pineapple on pizza in the UK then I’ll be 100% behind Brexit.0
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https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/businesses-shun-uk-courts-in-droves-as-brexit-looms/5066997.article?utm_source=dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign= GAZ141016
Maybe not quite as bad as only having "adequate" food supplies. But still.
Time for the Big Pause Button to be pressed. No-one voted for rationing from stockpiled food supplies.0 -
You could grow vegetables.rottenborough said:
Can't keep them. There is some old covenant on the land my house is built on.Sean_F said:
You'd better get some chickens.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
Not sure about pigs though.
But anyway I am veggie.0 -
48% of us didn't. There is hope for this once great nationrottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?0 -
He has just lost any chance of leadership. I am astonished how hopeless he looksTheScreamingEagles said:
I’m going to urge JohnO to start deselection proceedings against Raab.grabcocque said:Christ.
Dominic "Adequate Food" Raab.
What a political epitaph.
He’s making David Davis look good.0 -
Big_G_NorthWales said:
I hope someone is going to put a stop to this national humiliationsurby said:
Do you think that's the plan ?Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
One day we will wake from this collective madness and ask what the hell happened...
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I'm going to start stockpiling swans.
Let Her Majesty just try to stop me.
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The Tories. The party of 'adequate food'.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’m going to urge JohnO to start deselection proceedings against Raab.grabcocque said:Christ.
Dominic "Adequate Food" Raab.
What a political epitaph.
He’s making David Davis look good.
Unbloody believable.0 -
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
Keep Calm and Carry On.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
The EU aren't [able] about to deploy the submarine fleet and attempt to starve us out. There will be some disruption to supply. Quite possibly a lot of fresh vegetables from Spain will rot in queues at Calais. Some people will lose a lot of money. Other people will make lots of money. Established supply chains could be disrupted, but new supply chains will be established to take their place.
However, if we expect to be gnawing each other's bones by Easter then we'll be pleasantly surprised when the disruption amounts to temporary shortages of fresh vegetables, cheddar and a few other items.0 -
Alternatively the honesty is aimed at encouraging the less stupid and reprehensible of the Conservative and Labour parties to think about how the electorate will view them. There are a number who are hopeless causes of course.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He has just lost any chance of leadership. I am astonished how hopeless he looksTheScreamingEagles said:
I’m going to urge JohnO to start deselection proceedings against Raab.grabcocque said:Christ.
Dominic "Adequate Food" Raab.
What a political epitaph.
He’s making David Davis look good.0 -
I was impressed by how many examples of his being offensive he was able to include.IanB2 said:
He spends a lot of time in that article defending himself against charges of his choosing. He was considered unsuitable principally because of his crude sexist and racist comments, to which his only defence appears to be that he was drunk. Drink loosens inhibitions and may have prompted him to reveal his real attitudes, which isn't much of a defence.Sandpit said:
A few dodgy Tweets from years ago is insignificant, when compared to his more recent several years’ experience running schools and an educational charity.TOPPING said:
It is a lynch mob, but looking at that DM front page and some of the tweets, and as Young himself accepts, I am not 100% sure I would want someone who is capable of making some of those comments in a position of influence in education.Sandpit said:
That’s a very sad, but wonderfully well written and eloquent piece.SeanT said:Incidentally, this is a rather fine and shocking piece by Toby Young (an old acquaintance of mine).
I was aware that he was forced to step down from the QAUNGO role, because of the monstering he got on Twitter and elsewhere.
I was unaware that as a consequence he lost ALL his positions, and his entire career was ruined, overnight. Just astonishing. And sobering. Whether you are on the left OR the right, these lynchings are horrible. They need to STOP.
https://quillette.com/2018/07/23/the-public-humiliation-diet/
Hopefully the febrile online lynch mob will be tamed eventually, but it’s hard to see how it doesn’t get worse before it gets better. The question is what will it take for them to deflect their attention towards actual abusers, and away from satirical and self-deprecating writers?
I would repeat some of those tweets by way of illustration but I simply cannot as they are too offensive even to repeat to make a point.
Given the 'lynch-mob' included the Mail, it was clearly a left-wing plot haha.
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Raab is going to wake up to terrible headlines in some newspapers.
The Minister for Adequate Food.0 -
I think this thread is going to give us a few chuckles, 12 months from now.OblitusSumMe said:
Keep Calm and Carry On.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
The EU aren't [able] about to deploy the submarine fleet and attempt to starve us out. There will be some disruption to supply. Quite possibly a lot of fresh vegetables from Spain will rot in queues at Calais. Some people will lose a lot of money. Other people will make lots of money. Established supply chains could be disrupted, but new supply chains will be established to take their place.
However, if we expect to be gnawing each other's bones by Easter then we'll be pleasantly surprised when the disruption amounts to temporary shortages of fresh vegetables, cheddar and a few other items.0 -
Fear not, both tinned pineaple and hams store very well.TheScreamingEagles said:If Brexit leads to end of pineapple on pizza in the UK then I’ll be 100% behind Brexit.
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As an ardent Remainer, even I can't see why cheddar would be in short supply lol!OblitusSumMe said:
Keep Calm and Carry On.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
The EU aren't [able] about to deploy the submarine fleet and attempt to starve us out. There will be some disruption to supply. Quite possibly a lot of fresh vegetables from Spain will rot in queues at Calais. Some people will lose a lot of money. Other people will make lots of money. Established supply chains could be disrupted, but new supply chains will be established to take their place.
However, if we expect to be gnawing each other's bones by Easter then we'll be pleasantly surprised when the disruption amounts to temporary shortages of fresh vegetables, cheddar and a few other items.0 -
Today is the day leave lost and the Nation will turn against it (unless TM gets a quick deal)rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
Comrade Raab, the People's Commissar for Glorious Food Adequacy0
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He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
You mean the EU-boat menace?OblitusSumMe said:
Keep Calm and Carry On.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
The EU aren't [able] about to deploy the submarine fleet and attempt to starve us out.
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For only 2 holidays ?williamglenn said:0 -
A lot of cheddar is imported, surprisingly.Benpointer said:
As an ardent Remainer, even I can't see why cheddar would be in short supply lol!OblitusSumMe said:
Keep Calm and Carry On.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
The EU aren't [able] about to deploy the submarine fleet and attempt to starve us out. There will be some disruption to supply. Quite possibly a lot of fresh vegetables from Spain will rot in queues at Calais. Some people will lose a lot of money. Other people will make lots of money. Established supply chains could be disrupted, but new supply chains will be established to take their place.
However, if we expect to be gnawing each other's bones by Easter then we'll be pleasantly surprised when the disruption amounts to temporary shortages of fresh vegetables, cheddar and a few other items.
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You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
From Ireland, with whom, if JRM is to be believed, we shall shortly be engaged in an air war.Sean_F said:
A lot of cheddar is imported, surprisingly.
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Can't wait to see Laura Kuenssberg on the telly tonight ! This should be fun. There will be "adequate food" in the 5th richest nation on the earth.Cyclefree said:https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/businesses-shun-uk-courts-in-droves-as-brexit-looms/5066997.article?utm_source=dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign= GAZ141016
Maybe not quite as bad as only having "adequate" food supplies. But still.
Time for the Big Pause Button to be pressed. No-one voted for rationing from stockpiled food supplies.0 -
Let them eat brioche.Sean_F said:
A lot of cheddar is imported, surprisingly.Benpointer said:
As an ardent Remainer, even I can't see why cheddar would be in short supply lol!OblitusSumMe said:
Keep Calm and Carry On.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
The EU aren't [able] about to deploy the submarine fleet and attempt to starve us out. There will be some disruption to supply. Quite possibly a lot of fresh vegetables from Spain will rot in queues at Calais. Some people will lose a lot of money. Other people will make lots of money. Established supply chains could be disrupted, but new supply chains will be established to take their place.
However, if we expect to be gnawing each other's bones by Easter then we'll be pleasantly surprised when the disruption amounts to temporary shortages of fresh vegetables, cheddar and a few other items.0 -
Swans? Yeah you need matchsticks to start your camp firesgrabcocque said:I'm going to start stockpiling swans.
Let Her Majesty just try to stop me.
http://thepipeguys.com/wp-content/uploads/swan-vestas-smokers-matches-866x1300.jpg0 -
Hysterical nonsense.
I know some of the Remainers have snowflake tendencies, but some of you could sink the Titanic. If there's so many land jobs going vacant, get yourselves over to Lincolnshire and volunteer. All the tates you can eat, and they're a complete food.
Look on the bright side, it should solve the obesity crisis..0 -
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
Can you explain what is just in time about Banana's, the most popular fruit in the UK taking 6 weeks on a boat to get here.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
The one thing that does worry me is how the public would react if expensive pates ran short at Waitrose.Foxy said:
Let them eat brioche.Sean_F said:
A lot of cheddar is imported, surprisingly.Benpointer said:
As an ardent Remainer, even I can't see why cheddar would be in short supply lol!OblitusSumMe said:
Keep Calm and Carry On.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
The EU aren't [able] about to deploy the submarine fleet and attempt to starve us out. There will be some disruption to supply. Quite possibly a lot of fresh vegetables from Spain will rot in queues at Calais. Some people will lose a lot of money. Other people will make lots of money. Established supply chains could be disrupted, but new supply chains will be established to take their place.
However, if we expect to be gnawing each other's bones by Easter then we'll be pleasantly surprised when the disruption amounts to temporary shortages of fresh vegetables, cheddar and a few other items.0 -
"You mean the EU-boat menace?"
Don't give them ideas, Dr P.0 -
Adequate?surby said:
Can't wait to see Laura Kuenssberg on the telly tonight ! This should be fun. There will be "adequate food" in the 5th richest nation on the earth.Cyclefree said:https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/businesses-shun-uk-courts-in-droves-as-brexit-looms/5066997.article?utm_source=dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign= GAZ141016
Maybe not quite as bad as only having "adequate" food supplies. But still.
Time for the Big Pause Button to be pressed. No-one voted for rationing from stockpiled food supplies.
Satisfactory?
Average?
So-so?
OK?
Alright?
Normal?
Sufficient?
Not bad? 0 -
They'll adjust. They get stuff just in time from outside the EU already.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
I think the whole thing is ' bananas'ralphmalph said:
Can you explain what is just in time about Banana's, the most popular fruit in the UK taking 6 weeks on a boat to get here.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
"You'll never guess what, darling? They've completely run out of duck rillettes! THIS IS INTOLERABLE."Sean_F said:
The one thing that does worry me is how the public would react if expensive pates ran short at Waitrose.0 -
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.0 -
As I’ve said before, I’m more worried about empty shelves at Waitrose in Dubai than in the UK. If food imports suffer temporary disruption, then food scheduled for export will be diverted to domestic demand.ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
I’ll have to go without bacon for a few weeks. Ho hum, first world problems.0 -
I can see the Mail and Express headlines; 'EU tries to starve us into surrender!'Big_G_NorthWales said:
Today is the day leave lost and the Nation will turn against it (unless TM gets a quick deal)rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."0 -
Do not even fucking JOKE about that.Sandpit said:
I’ll have to go without bacon for a few weeks. Ho hum, first world problems.
If you want an armed uprising, depriving the nation of bacon would be a good way to start.
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To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lostralphmalph said:
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.0 -
Just had some vegan ham sandwiches by "coincidence" - they exist!grabcocque said:
Do not even fucking JOKE about that.Sandpit said:
I’ll have to go without bacon for a few weeks. Ho hum, first world problems.
If you want an armed uprising, depriving the nation of bacon would be a good way to start.0 -
Mr G,
"To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lost."
You mean you might end up as Liitle _G?
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I think that the public in general are a bit more relaxed than we are.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lostralphmalph said:
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.0 -
We'll have to eat the vegans fist, They might be a bit stringy, but they'll probably be Remainers.0
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What the public is watching is how crap the govt and politicians are.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lostralphmalph said:
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.
The public is polarised, 20% think the politicians are stupid for not cancelling brexit, 20% think it is easy the politicians are useless and the rest think the politicians are making a pigs ear of it.
If there are not serious people in the political parties having a very deep think about this then they need to start pronto.0 -
To be fair, bacon in Dubai is something of an expensive luxury!grabcocque said:
Do not even fucking JOKE about that.Sandpit said:
I’ll have to go without bacon for a few weeks. Ho hum, first world problems.
If you want an armed uprising, depriving the nation of bacon would be a good way to start.
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From the sunlit uplands I can clearly perceive the certainty of adequate food.
Good grief.0 -
That is Capitalism in general isn't it.Sunil_Prasannan said:
The Corbynista in me reckons the EU is a right-wing corporatist plot to shaft the working man and woman.TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked that Corbyn wants to undo one of Mrs Thatcher’s finest achievements.
I am sure it is nothing to do with the single market rules would stop some of Corbyn’s hard left economic policies.
The fact the ERG and other Tories are cheering him along should give all Tory leavers pause for thought, alas their Europhobia is just too strong.0 -
Man the barricades!grabcocque said:
"You'll never guess what, darling? They've completely run out of duck rillettes! THIS IS INTOLERABLE."Sean_F said:
The one thing that does worry me is how the public would react if expensive pates ran short at Waitrose.
Top tip: Don't get mixed up between your Molotov Cocktail and your Fairtrade organic skinny latte.0 -
Because you Leavers caused this mess we Remainers will be allowed to eat you first.CD13 said:We'll have to eat the vegans fist, They might be a bit stringy, but they'll probably be Remainers.
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Now that might be unlikelyCD13 said:Mr G,
"To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lost."
You mean you might end up as Liitle _G?0 -
AKA the Putin Cocktail?SandyRentool said:
Man the barricades!grabcocque said:
"You'll never guess what, darling? They've completely run out of duck rillettes! THIS IS INTOLERABLE."Sean_F said:
The one thing that does worry me is how the public would react if expensive pates ran short at Waitrose.
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What's wrong with turkey bacon?Sandpit said:
To be fair, bacon in Dubai is something of an expensive luxury!grabcocque said:
Do not even fucking JOKE about that.Sandpit said:
I’ll have to go without bacon for a few weeks. Ho hum, first world problems.
If you want an armed uprising, depriving the nation of bacon would be a good way to start.
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On food shortages and rationing - I doubt itSean_F said:
I think that the public in general are a bit more relaxed than we are.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lostralphmalph said:
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.0 -
After Project Fear, the British Public will just think … here we go again, and they'll be right.
I can't be bothered to resurrect the clip from 'Zulu' where Jack Hawkins proclaims. "You're all going to die.".0 -
I'm a veggie too. Looks like I'm going to have to dig up the dahlias and plant my own.rottenborough said:
Can't keep them. There is some old covenant on the land my house is built on.Sean_F said:
You'd better get some chickens.rottenborough said:
Beyond belief. We are seriously contemplating forcing food shortages on ourselves and nobody in government or politics seems to have the statesmanship to say 'enough of this'. Time to own up to the public honestly and ask them to think again.Sean_F said:
I think that what will happen is that Conservative Party members, UKIP members, anti-EU Labour party members like Jeremy Corbyn, members of various anti-EU organisations will all have special lavishly-stocked shops, which are reserved for them. People who can prove they voted Leave will be given ration books, whereas Remain voters will have to fend for themselves.Stark_Dawning said:
It's actually sensible politics from Raab. If Brexit does lead to food shortages, then it's better for us to be queuing up to collect our tins from the town hall than actually starving. The latter would see rioting, looting, burglary and all sorts.TheScreamingEagles said:
Project Fear from Leavers.williamglenn said:
I’d call them the naughty c word but they have neither the depth nor the warmth.
Have we all lost our minds?
Not sure about pigs though.
But anyway I am veggie.
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If we really did have rationing, I'm sure the public would be pissed, but short of the EU declaring war on us, I'm not expecting rationing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
On food shortages and rationing - I doubt itSean_F said:
I think that the public in general are a bit more relaxed than we are.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lostralphmalph said:
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.0 -
Some vegetarian Leaver-substitute for me, pleaseTheScreamingEagles said:
Because you Leavers caused this mess we Remainers will be allowed to eat you first.CD13 said:We'll have to eat the vegans fist, They might be a bit stringy, but they'll probably be Remainers.
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Slightly surprised we've got this far down the thread without any mention of gammon.TheScreamingEagles said:
Because you Leavers caused this mess we Remainers will be allowed to eat you first.CD13 said:We'll have to eat the vegans fist, They might be a bit stringy, but they'll probably be Remainers.
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Vega is long way away, though, about 26 light yearsCD13 said:We'll have to eat the vegans fist, They might be a bit stringy, but they'll probably be Remainers.
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***Trigger warning for snowflake Leavers***
https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/10217808504704696320 -
As long as the Ration book has a blue cover there will be nothing to complain about.Sean_F said:
If we really did have rationing, I'm sure the public would be pissed, but short of the EU declaring war on us, I'm not expecting rationing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
On food shortages and rationing - I doubt itSean_F said:
I think that the public in general are a bit more relaxed than we are.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lostralphmalph said:
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.0 -
I am guessing Democrats will put this in every ad from now to November
https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/10217853738008862720 -
The sum of Leavers' ambitions: the nation will not suffer too badly from hunger in the wake of Brexit.0
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Trouble is, one never knows what’s rubbish and what isn’t.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
The country nearly ground to a halt , when a few farmers blocked refeneries back in ,2000 for a few days.
God knows what would happen now , if there was a real shortage .
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The heat must be affecting people on here. For months remainers have complained about lack of adequate fall-back preparations for a hard Brexit then go all queer when someone actually announces he's doing just that.0
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Point of order, Mr Speaker, weren't David Cameron and Theresa May both Remainers?TheScreamingEagles said:
Because you Leavers caused this mess we Remainers will be allowed to eat you first.CD13 said:We'll have to eat the vegans fist, They might be a bit stringy, but they'll probably be Remainers.
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I think that some people need a holiday.Norm said:The heat must be affecting people on here. For months remainers have complained about lack of adequate fall-back preparations for a hard Brexit then go all queer when someone actually announces he's doing just that.
In the past few days, Brexit has been compared to the Spanish civil war, Pearl Harbour, or a mental illness, May has been compared to General Franco, and Brexiteers have bee threatened with the same fate as Mussolini and Clara Petacci.0 -
Well personally I think it's a positive that the Gov't will ensure adequate food supply in the event of a no deal Brexit.0
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True they got upset about a sugar shortage in the ,70s.Big_G_NorthWales said:
On food shortages and rationing - I doubt itSean_F said:
I think that the public in general are a bit more relaxed than we are.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be serious - you are missing the point on just how badly this will go down with the public. Today is the day hard Brexit was lostralphmalph said:
Why do I see Egyptian Tom's in the supermarket? Then heaven forbid there are English Tomatoes as well.rottenborough said:
Yep. Vast quantities of fresh food from Spain and Netherlands etc etc.Nigel_Foremain said:
You are in la la land. have you ever heard of "just-in-time"?ralphmalph said:
He does not have to. The supermarkets will ensure it, they already have supply chains all over the world, they will know who can sell them more.rottenborough said:
How is he going to ensure adequate food supplies? I bet he has no f***ing idea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Even talking like that is a sure fire winner for the remainersralphmalph said:
I have watched the video and I can see where this talk of stockpiling food come from.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM move to take over does imply that she will now only deal with heads of state and is going to the heart of the Council.
I believe she is throwing the dice with a last ditch attempt to stop the disaster of a no deal.
At the same time Raab actively talking of food rationing and other serious problems including travel and health restrictions within the EU is going to spook the population and I would expect a substantial move for a second referendum.
Of course this could all go pear shaped with the 48 letters going in and a VNOC
Benn "Is the Govt going to stockpile food."
Raab "The Govt will ensure adequate food supplies."
To all you the supermarket will be empty, look at what happened in Russia when Putin stopped food imports, it is well documented.0
