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I understood that reference!not_on_fire said:
And KABOOMJackW said:
Whoom! Bang! Crash! ?????PClipp said:
Patience, Danny. It`s like a plane taking off... you know.... slow at first, and then.... whoom!Danny565 said:
It's not particularly progress even compared to the recent past. 16% is less than the 18% they got last year in the local elections, and up a bit from 13% that they got when these seats were last contested in 2014.kle4 said:
Because we can only judge a current situation in reference to the past, not the present. It's clearly progress. Can it be sustained? Can it be taken further so they are closer to where they have been in the past? Unclear, and I don't think their chances are high, but progress is still progress.Danny565 said:LOL at Mr Smithson trying to present 16% as a massive triumph.
I remember when the consensus was that Clegg had flopped in his first set of local elections with 'only' 25%.
I guess the definition of "triumph" depends on what your expectations were. If one was expecting the Lib Dems to fold completely, then I suppose these results are a "triumph" - they 're clearly going to have some presence in local councils, and probably at Westminster, for years to come. But in terms of recovering to their strength of the pre-Coalition years (let alone challenging either of the Big Two, which was their big goal not so long ago), I see very little in this set of results that indicates that.0 -
I think I might just pay my dad to sort it out.Verulamius said:
The normal rate of cgt for higher rate taxpayers is 20%. For gains arising from disposals of residential property (eg second homes) the rate is 28%. Similarly the rate of tax on carried interest for private equity managers is also 28%.MaxPB said:
I have no idea what that means.Verulamius said:
20%. 28% only for carried interest gains, residential property gains.MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
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Definitely not microwave.Gardenwalker said:Middle class alert.
I have just opened the fridge and discovered a half-eaten Hawaiian pizza.
I believe the nanny must have left it there and presume it was fed to my 3 year old for lunch.
Thoughts?
Heat it in the oven at 200ish until re melted, then dip in some barbecue sauce.
Enjoy.
If you want to level up, try pepperoni and pineapple. It's too much power for some people on here to handle.0 -
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They are actually having a recount in ward in TH...0
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https://twitter.com/ELAdvertiser/status/992479177784856577
looks like a couple of tory losses already in Tower Hamlets to Labour in this ward and Limehouse0 -
Whitechapel: Reports that candidates are unhappy with number of declared votes.
Party agents took on-the-spot tallies of voters at each of the ward's five polling stations and, together with registered postal votes, comes to 5,000 in all.
Not 6,000, as declared
Update: Island Gardens votes not under a full recount, but Tory group chairman Peter Golds (fighting to regain his seat) claims some figures have been put in the wrong column when tally put together, giving false result, which some other candidates dispute0 -
Are you adding in the Residents Association MPs?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
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looks like labour could come through the middle in a lot of seats there.AndreaParma_82 said:4 wards declared so far in Tower Hamlets
http://democracy.towerhamlets.gov.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=43&V=1&RPID=12803558
The night is still young...0 -
Mike, who can begrudge you on your headline. However, compared to LD losses in 2014, only a fourth was won back.
Labour played a poor expectations game - but did not have that bad a night considering 2014 results. Barnet stood out as a bad result. But Labour is making inroads in the Southwest with Plymouth. I think at the next GE quite a few Cornwall seats will also be in play.
It was stupid to even talk about Wandsworth, Westminster and Kensington. However, the performance in Wandsworth and indeed all over London except Barnet, possibly Harrow was good.0 -
Perhaps Tower Hamlets didn't want to share the limelight during their count?0
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Might as well be in some African hell hole tbh.AndreaParma_82 said:Whitechapel: Reports that candidates are unhappy with number of declared votes.
Party agents took on-the-spot tallies of voters at each of the ward's five polling stations and, together with registered postal votes, comes to 5,000 in all.
Not 6,000, as declared
Update: Island Gardens votes not under a full recount, but Tory group chairman Peter Golds (fighting to regain his seat) claims some figures have been put in the wrong column when tally put together, giving false result, which some other candidates dispute0 -
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Of course, Labour will win a few more in Scotland from the SNP.SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
Recounts in Canary Wharf and Island Gardens.0
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labour already won....AndreaParma_82 said:0 -
I take it that's the name of the ward, not the names of the candidates.AndreaParma_82 said:
Although Cubitt Town would be a fabulous name for a candidate...0 -
Was this not a Tory seat from 1983 - 1992?MikeSmithson said:0 -
AIUI that’s a very misleading number - based on a minute sample and plenty of guesswork - by a campaigning group so suggest you take with pinch of saltSouthamObserver said:So 1.67% of those who tried to vote in the trial areas were not able to do so because they did not have the ID required. Extrapolate that to a general election and you are looking at around 500,000 people being denied the right to cast a ballot. That is an extraordinary number.
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Their counting should be done by an outside group not council staff.MaxPB said:
Might as well be in some African hell hole tbh.AndreaParma_82 said:Whitechapel: Reports that candidates are unhappy with number of declared votes.
Party agents took on-the-spot tallies of voters at each of the ward's five polling stations and, together with registered postal votes, comes to 5,000 in all.
Not 6,000, as declared
Update: Island Gardens votes not under a full recount, but Tory group chairman Peter Golds (fighting to regain his seat) claims some figures have been put in the wrong column when tally put together, giving false result, which some other candidates dispute0 -
Fired in your pizza oven?Gardenwalker said:Middle class alert.
I have just opened the fridge and discovered a half-eaten Hawaiian pizza.
I believe the nanny must have left it there and presume it was fed to my 3 year old for lunch.
Thoughts?0 -
yes, ward. Winning candidates are Ehtashamul Haqu, Morshed Pappu and Candida Ronaldydoethur said:
I take it that's the name of the ward, not the names of the candidates.AndreaParma_82 said:
Although Cubitt Town would be a fabulous name for a candidate...0 -
Say no to one-party states.Gardenwalker said:The Lib Dems (3) have been eliminated from Hackney Council. It’s a bit sad that in liberal Islington and Hackney, not a Lib Dem is now to be found.
I am envious of the good burghers of Crouch End.
Can we have PR for local elections please?0 -
A whole lotta reinstatin' goin' on.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/992480397392056329
Hey Tory party, what first attracted you to abusive, racist, winning candidate X?0 -
This was in 2014:
"Tower Hamlets named by Election Commission for voting fraud danger"
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/politics/tower-hamlets-named-by-election-commission-for-voting-fraud-danger-1-32064780 -
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A better defence is she was suspended for 3 months, she has done that and now it’s natural justice to let her back in. It’s certainly fair to argue the punishment was way too little but to change after the event isn’t rightSandyRentool said:
She's been on an awareness course, so everything is fine. But Jo hadn't actually read what she'd posted before he defended her.Yorkcity said:
What was the defence ?SandyRentool said:Jo Johnson on Ch4 defending the reinstatement of the racist.
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A candidate called Candida? Even better!AndreaParma_82 said:yes, ward. Winning candidates are Ehtashamul Haqu, Morshed Pappu and Candida Ronald
ydoethur said:
I take it that's the name of the ward, not the names of the candidates.AndreaParma_82 said:
Although Cubitt Town would be a fabulous name for a candidate...0 -
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.0 -
Definitely not - Tories by another name!Freggles said:
Are you adding in the Residents Association MPs?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.0 -
I don't know what bothers me most about politics at the moment - the lack of talent, the total absence of policy or vision, the total wing-nuts it allows in (into top positions in the case of Labour) or the lackadaisical way all parties deals with them, which can again be by promoting them.Theuniondivvie said:A whole lotta reinstatin' goin' on.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/992480397392056329
Hey Tory party, what first attracted you to abusive, racist, winning candidate X?0 -
So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...0 -
I've not done the number crunching, but I think the Labour lead was more like 15% than 22%. Strange as it may seem, London swung from Labour, compared to last Jue.SquareRoot said:Anyone know how accurate the you gov . London poll was wrt the actual votes????
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Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.0 -
Ahem.Theuniondivvie said:A whole lotta reinstatin' goin' on.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/992480397392056329
Hey Tory party, what first attracted you to abusive, racist, winning candidate X?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11880268/Jeremy-Corbyns-Twitter-account-favourites-David-Cameron-pigs-and-Diane-Abbott-tweet.html
"But Mr Corbyn, who has suffered from several days of negative publicity surrounding a series of gaffes since his appointment as Labour leader, has been thrown into the spotlight once again after his Twitter account seemingly favourited a tweet which asked: "Which is worse? f****** a pig or f****** Diane Abbott?""0 -
The standard depressing answer to that is that we get the politicians we deserve..ydoethur said:
I don't know what bothers me most about politics at the moment - the lack of talent, the total absence of policy or vision, the total wing-nuts it allows in (into top positions in the case of Labour) or the lackadaisical way all parties deals with them, which can again be by promoting them.Theuniondivvie said:A whole lotta reinstatin' goin' on.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/992480397392056329
Hey Tory party, what first attracted you to abusive, racist, winning candidate X?0 -
But Labour's 2014 results were good. This one is better than that one.numbertwelve said:So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...0 -
Could be worse. I could be still wondering what I had done to deserve the Welsh Labour Party.Theuniondivvie said:
The standard depressing answer to that is that we get the politicians we deserve..ydoethur said:
I don't know what bothers me most about politics at the moment - the lack of talent, the total absence of policy or vision, the total wing-nuts it allows in (into top positions in the case of Labour) or the lackadaisical way all parties deals with them, which can again be by promoting them.Theuniondivvie said:A whole lotta reinstatin' goin' on.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/992480397392056329
Hey Tory party, what first attracted you to abusive, racist, winning candidate X?0 -
And look where it got them at the following election.surby said:
But Labour's 2014 results were good. This one is better than that one.numbertwelve said:So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...
They’ve done well, but not astoundingly so. And on national equivalent vote share they might actually be behind the Tories this time, which wasn’t the case in 2014.0 -
Island Gardens and Bow East candidates called to stage!0
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Yes, if you can roll over some of it into EIS you could about paying CGT at all now.Charles said:
Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.0 -
Labour has certainly done significantly better than at the 2017 Local Elections - and we know what happened a mere five weeks later at the General Election.numbertwelve said:
And look where it got them at the following election.surby said:
But Labour's 2014 results were good. This one is better than that one.numbertwelve said:So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...
They’ve done well, but not astoundingly so. And on national equivalent vote share they might actually be behind the Tories this time, which wasn’t the case in 2014.0 -
The 2015 Labour result had a lot to do with losing 40 seats in Scotland. In England there was a swing to Labour and a gain of a few seats.numbertwelve said:
And look where it got them at the following election.surby said:
But Labour's 2014 results were good. This one is better than that one.numbertwelve said:So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...
They’ve done well, but not astoundingly so. And on national equivalent vote share they might actually be behind the Tories this time, which wasn’t the case in 2014.
There is no election in Scotland. I think I read it somewhere that compared to GE2017, there has been a small swing to Labour from the Tories.0 -
They've already hovered up all the left-wing vote. It's hard to imagine how they'd repeat the same gains that they achieved between the locals and the general in 2017.justin124 said:
Labour has certainly done significantly better than at the 2017 Local Elections - and we know what happened a mere five weeks later at the General Election.numbertwelve said:
And look where it got them at the following election.surby said:
But Labour's 2014 results were good. This one is better than that one.numbertwelve said:So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...
They’ve done well, but not astoundingly so. And on national equivalent vote share they might actually be behind the Tories this time, which wasn’t the case in 2014.0 -
Well they wouldn't need to! It's not unlikely though that Labour could put on 3%/4% to take them clear of the Tories.RobD said:
They've already hovered up all the left-wing vote. It's hard to imagine how they'd repeat the same gains that they achieved between the locals and the general in 2017.justin124 said:
Labour has certainly done significantly better than at the 2017 Local Elections - and we know what happened a mere five weeks later at the General Election.numbertwelve said:
And look where it got them at the following election.surby said:
But Labour's 2014 results were good. This one is better than that one.numbertwelve said:So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...
They’ve done well, but not astoundingly so. And on national equivalent vote share they might actually be behind the Tories this time, which wasn’t the case in 2014.0 -
Could it be the same thing that caused hundreds of Corbynista racist tweets about Sajid Javid? (Which, despite Labour's claims to be against racism, have failed to raise a single condemnation from Corbyn, Abbott or Mcdonnell. Or, indeed, any words of condemnation from Theuniondivvie.)Theuniondivvie said:A whole lotta reinstatin' goin' on.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/992480397392056329
Hey Tory party, what first attracted you to abusive, racist, winning candidate X?0 -
Rachel Blake 2,789
Marc Francis 2,644
Amina Ali 2,482
elected in Bow East. All Labour0 -
@MaxPB is a football fan isn’t he? If so, then I’ve got a great idea for an EIS investment for him...rcs1000 said:
Yes, if you can roll over some of it into EIS you could about paying CGT at all now.Charles said:
Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.0 -
It would be interesting to see the swings for each London borough from 2014 and 2010 and London constituency from 2017 and 2010.Sean_F said:
I've not done the number crunching, but I think the Labour lead was more like 15% than 22%. Strange as it may seem, London swung from Labour, compared to last Jue.SquareRoot said:Anyone know how accurate the you gov . London poll was wrt the actual votes????
There's a lot of variation across the city.0 -
Sounds like very high salt levels for a three year old.Gardenwalker said:Middle class alert.
I have just opened the fridge and discovered a half-eaten Hawaiian pizza.
I believe the nanny must have left it there and presume it was fed to my 3 year old for lunch.
Thoughts?0 -
Well, that was a long couple of days in Newcastle-under-Lyme. Unfortunately, because of the new boundaries, we haven't really been given credit for taking a notionally LAB majority to NOC - results are Lab 20 (-3) Con 18 (+3) LD 3 (-) Ind 3 (+3) UKIP 0 (-3). We took over running the council (on the old boundaries) shortly before Christmas after the independents on the council withdrew support from Labour over the election fiasco (amongst other things).
Personally I was pleased that we managed to gain a seat in the ward I was detailed to help with - one of three Lab/Con split wards today, which just goes to show how tight it is up here.0 -
I'm not a Labour supporter.Cynosarges said:
Could it be the same thing that caused hundreds of Corbynista racist tweets about Sajid Javid? (Which, despite Labour's claims to be against racism, have failed to raise a single condemnation from Corbyn, Abbott or Mcdonnell. Or, indeed, any words of condemnation from Theuniondivvie.)Theuniondivvie said:A whole lotta reinstatin' goin' on.
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/992480397392056329
Hey Tory party, what first attracted you to abusive, racist, winning candidate X?
Of course if you feel that supporters of a party should be the first to condemn the behaviour of other supporters (or in fact elected reps) of that party, knock yourself out sport.0 -
pedant alert - CGT allowance is 11.7kCharles said:
Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.
Also if you are married, can't you gift some to your spouse and then they use their CGT allowance too?0 -
Well done Mr Price!Tissue_Price said:Well, that was a long couple of days in Newcastle-under-Lyme. Unfortunately, because of the new boundaries, we haven't really been given credit for taking a notionally LAB majority to NOC - results are Lab 20 (-3) Con 18 (+3) LD 3 (-) Ind 3 (+3) UKIP 0 (-3). We took over running the council (on the old boundaries) shortly before Christmas after the independents on the council withdrew support from Labour over the election fiasco (amongst other things).
Personally I was pleased that we managed to gain a seat in the ward I was detailed to help with - one of three Lab/Con split wards today, which just goes to show how tight it is up here.0 -
I still have a 6 figure tax loss from my bank shares that I was given in lieu of cash... don’t focus on the capital gains tax allowance!Scrapheap_as_was said:
pedant alert - CGT allowance is 11.7kCharles said:
Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.
Also if you are married, can't you gift some to your spouse and then they use their CGT allowance too?
And Max isn’t married. Yet....0 -
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I don't like the current Labour party but I really hope they wipe out the offshoots in Tower Hamlets. One area I wouldn't mind them doing well. What a mess.0
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There's an incentive then.... good IHT planning too of course....Charles said:
I still have a 6 figure tax loss from my bank shares that I was given in lieu of cash... don’t focus on the capital gains tax allowance!Scrapheap_as_was said:
pedant alert - CGT allowance is 11.7kCharles said:
Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.
Also if you are married, can't you gift some to your spouse and then they use their CGT allowance too?
And Max isn’t married. Yet....
It's worth noting that as your calcn shows the CGT rate max is 20% not 28% which is pretty kind I think (only resi property is up to 28%).
Just fyi Sipp option is only possible if got UK earned income to cover the amount to be paid in.
CGT losses are VERY handy in their flexibility, just use what you need - along with your CGT allowance - and carry the rest on indefinitely for (hopefully) future taxable gains.
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How does one define a 'progressive alliance'? No parties are natural bedfellows, else they'd be in the same party (hell, even that doesn't lead to agreement on specific values and policies, progressive or not), and whether an agreement between other parties was progressive or not would depend on what policies they agreed to implement together, surely? Merely being not Tories wouldn't indicate shared progressiveismSandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
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Labour's vote share was up by 4% on 2014; the Conservatives' by 6%. London swung to Labour, non-London to the Conservatives.surby said:
But Labour's 2014 results were good. This one is better than that one.numbertwelve said:So for once a set of elections that closely mirror current polling.
Tories must be relieved that 8 years into government this was not a rout of the type we were accustomed to seeing towards the end of the New Labour years. Suggests that the country as a whole has not turned their backs on them yet. Will be disappointed about Trafford and that their strong showing in certain Midlands councils was not replicated elsewhere. And a bad, but not cataclysmic, night in London saved by the Barnet result.
Labour success patchy, but successes all the same. At least they seem to be consolidating their post-GE position. But they’re nowhere near where they need to be at this stage of an election cycle. And they avoided the potential for a very bad night outside of the capital.
As you were, then...0 -
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
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It's simple. You have baby-eating tory scum, and the progressive alliance.kle4 said:
How does one define a 'progressive alliance'? No parties are natural bedfellows, else they'd be in the same party (hell, even that doesn't lead to agreement on specific values and policies, progressive or not), and whether an agreement between other parties was progressive or not would depend on what policies they agreed to implement together, surely? Merely being not Tories wouldn't indicate shared progressiveismSandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
Progressive as defined earlier today in the context of Paul Mason.....?kle4 said:
How does one define a 'progressive alliance'? No parties are natural bedfellows, else they'd be in the same party (hell, even that doesn't lead to agreement on specific values and policies, progressive or not), and whether an agreement between other parties was progressive or not would depend on what policies they agreed to implement together, surely? Merely being not Tories wouldn't indicate shared progressiveismSandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
I have a new level respect for Dominic Raab after he stood up for his secretary here:
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/news/94860/dominic-raab-insists-diary-secretary-sex-scandal-storm-teacup0 -
I’m hoping to be able to use a lot of them this tax year. Watch this space.Scrapheap_as_was said:
There's an incentive then.... good IHT planning too of course....Charles said:
I still have a 6 figure tax loss from my bank shares that I was given in lieu of cash... don’t focus on the capital gains tax allowance!Scrapheap_as_was said:
pedant alert - CGT allowance is 11.7kCharles said:
Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.
Also if you are married, can't you gift some to your spouse and then they use their CGT allowance too?
And Max isn’t married. Yet....
It's worth noting that as your calcn shows the CGT rate max is 20% not 28% which is pretty kind I think (only resi property is up to 28%).
Just fyi Sipp option is only possible if got UK earned income to cover the amount to be paid in.
CGT losses are VERY handy in their flexibility, just use what you need - along with your CGT allowance - and carry the rest on indefinitely for (hopefully) future taxable gains.0 -
I'm pleased Peter Golds held his seat.0
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floating a popcorn selling company?Charles said:
I’m hoping to be able to use a lot of them this tax year. Watch this space.Scrapheap_as_was said:
There's an incentive then.... good IHT planning too of course....Charles said:
I still have a 6 figure tax loss from my bank shares that I was given in lieu of cash... don’t focus on the capital gains tax allowance!Scrapheap_as_was said:
pedant alert - CGT allowance is 11.7kCharles said:
Sell it and pay the taxMaxPB said:
Low six figures so fairly large (at least in my world!). It was a proper drunk gut investment. I saw the markets crash when I was in Greece for a wedding and IAG stuck out as being ridiculously underpriced given that nothing had really changed from one day to the next.Charles said:
You get a decent capital gains tax allowance though. Depends how large the gain is!MaxPB said:
Yes Switzerland, but I'll be back in the UK before the end of the year. The CGT rate here is the same as income tax which is much lower than the 28% I'd end up paying in the UK.rcs1000 said:
Where are you tax resident? If it's Switzerland then you will need to pay CGT there.MaxPB said:Off topic, I bought a pretty massive position in IAG after the Brexit kerfuffle a couple of years ago. I actually forgot about it until now because the results came out this morning and they are primed to buy Norwegian. I'm sitting on a pretty huge gain, does anyone know the implications of selling the stake whilst I'm still resident in Switzerland? I don't mind paying any UK CGT due, but I don't know if I'd be liable.
I just don't want to be liable for the rest on entry to the UK.
U.K. tax will be around £18,000 (100k - 11.2k = 88.8k x 0.2 = 17.6k).
If you are that fussed you could defer some of the profit, look at a SIPP contribution or reinvest into EIS.
Also if you are married, can't you gift some to your spouse and then they use their CGT allowance too?
And Max isn’t married. Yet....
It's worth noting that as your calcn shows the CGT rate max is 20% not 28% which is pretty kind I think (only resi property is up to 28%).
Just fyi Sipp option is only possible if got UK earned income to cover the amount to be paid in.
CGT losses are VERY handy in their flexibility, just use what you need - along with your CGT allowance - and carry the rest on indefinitely for (hopefully) future taxable gains.0 -
Anyone who is deluded enough to believe the EPL has a high standard really should watch Man U, a team still likely to come second and who have made the FA Cup final. They are atrocious. Players like Pogba, earning £200k a week, find it too difficult to pass the ball to their own teammates. It is pathetic.0
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While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
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Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose? In that case I think they would prop up Corbyn, if May still remains Tory leader they may give her confidence and supply while Corbyn is the alternative.MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
Speaking as a Tory turned LD, that is a horrible choice.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose?MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=21
I’d probably have to go RM. At least he wouldn’t bankrupt the country.0 -
They are embarrassing. Pogba is dreadful but Sanchez has not been much better.DavidL said:Anyone who is deluded enough to believe the EPL has a high standard really should watch Man U, a team still likely to come second and who have made the FA Cup final. They are atrocious. Players like Pogba, earning £200k a week, find it too difficult to pass the ball to their own teammates. It is pathetic.
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Really tough choice....Trump cheer leader vs. Anti-Semite apologist....Gardenwalker said:
Speaking as a Tory turned LD, that is a horrible choice.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose?MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=21
I’d probably have to go RM. At least he wouldn’t bankrupt the country.0 -
It may be a horrible choice but with RM the Tory members' favourite to succeed May it might be the choice facing the LDs in a few years time, interesting you went with RM.Gardenwalker said:
Speaking as a Tory turned LD, that is a horrible choice.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose?MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=21
I’d probably have to go RM. At least he wouldn’t bankrupt the country.0 -
Evening all
In Newham, the Labour dominance continues unchecked. After winning the Mayoralty by 73-12 over the Conservatives, Labour walked off with all 60 Council seats winning 74% of the vote to the Conservatives 15%.
Only Labour and the Conservatives put up full slates but Labour scored above 60% in every Ward bar one which I'll come back to. In seven of the twenty Newham Council Wards, Labour scored over 80% of the vote with the highest being Little Ilford where the three Labour seats beat the three Conservative candidates by 88% to 12%.
Beckton, Custom House and Royal Docks had Labour winning percentages of 64-65% but Labour's weakest performance came in Stratford & New Town where the three winning candidates scored just 55%.
Lib Dem Gareth Evans was fourth and the only non-Labour candidate anywhere in the Borough to get more than 10% of the vote. The three LD candidates got 20% of the vote and the three Conservatives 17%. The best non-Labour performance collectively was in Royal Docks where the Conservative candidates polled 21%.
The Greens finished second in the two Forest Gate Wards but a very long way behind Labour (as indeed everyone was).
Turnout was 36% for the Mayoral election.0 -
He'll have to get through the MP's ballot first.HYUFD said:
It may be a horrible choice but with RM the Tory members' favourite to succeed May it might be the choice facing the LDs in a few years time, interesting you went with RM.Gardenwalker said:
Speaking as a Tory turned LD, that is a horrible choice.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose?MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=21
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Most unlikely the LDs would lift a finger to prop up the Tories. Post Coalition they will be desperate to restore some credibility with centre-left voters. The 'Tories' Little Helpers' label continues to haunt them.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose? In that case I think they would prop up Corbyn, if May still remains Tory leader they may give her confidence and supply while Corbyn is the alternative.MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
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They are half way in Tower Hamlets
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thank you for the update.stodge said:Evening all
In Newham, the Labour dominance continues unchecked. After winning the Mayoralty by 73-12 over the Conservatives, Labour walked off with all 60 Council seats winning 74% of the vote to the Conservatives 15%.
Only Labour and the Conservatives put up full slates but Labour scored above 60% in every Ward bar one which I'll come back to. In seven of the twenty Newham Council Wards, Labour scored over 80% of the vote with the highest being Little Ilford where the three Labour seats beat the three Conservative candidates by 88% to 12%.
Beckton, Custom House and Royal Docks had Labour winning percentages of 64-65% but Labour's weakest performance came in Stratford & New Town where the three winning candidates scored just 55%.
Lib Dem Gareth Evans was fourth and the only non-Labour candidate anywhere in the Borough to get more than 10% of the vote. The three LD candidates got 20% of the vote and the three Conservatives 17%. The best non-Labour performance collectively was in Royal Docks where the Conservative candidates polled 21%.
The Greens finished second in the two Forest Gate Wards but a very long way behind Labour (as indeed everyone was).
Turnout was 36% for the Mayoral election.
How did LEAVE do so well in Newham (for a London council) ? Such Labour dominance, yet many ignored the message.0 -
I admire your optimism.Gardenwalker said:
Speaking as a Tory turned LD, that is a horrible choice.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose?MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=21
I’d probably have to go RM. At least he wouldn’t bankrupt the country.
Fixed it for younunuone said:Really tough choice....Trump cheer leader vs.
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Would you put a price on that claim ?MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
The East London Advertiser is desperately trying to make it exciting...or it is a way not to fall asleep
RESULTS: Lansbury elects (drum roll)...
1. Abdul Chowdhury (Lab; 2,140 votes)
2. Muhammad Harun (Lab; 1,868)
3. Rebecca White (Lab; 1,839)0 -
And then me !!!!!RobD said:
He'll have to get through the MP's ballot first.HYUFD said:
It may be a horrible choice but with RM the Tory members' favourite to succeed May it might be the choice facing the LDs in a few years time, interesting you went with RM.Gardenwalker said:
Speaking as a Tory turned LD, that is a horrible choice.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose?MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=21
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Here's some passing for you:DavidL said:Anyone who is deluded enough to believe the EPL has a high standard really should watch Man U, a team still likely to come second and who have made the FA Cup final. They are atrocious. Players like Pogba, earning £200k a week, find it too difficult to pass the ball to their own teammates. It is pathetic.
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Totally agree , however the smell of a ministerial car , their minds go to mush.justin124 said:
Most unlikely the LDs would lift a finger to prop up the Tories. Post Coalition they will be desperate to restore some credibility with centre-left voters. The 'Tories' Little Helpers' label continues to haunt them.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between making Rees-Mogg PM or Corbyn PM who do you think the LDs would choose? In that case I think they would prop up Corbyn, if May still remains Tory leader they may give her confidence and supply while Corbyn is the alternative.MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
That seems incredibly unlikely. Particularly as full coalition might be unnecessary, making it easier to support on a budgetary basis while being able to disavow any particular issues either the LDs or SNP wanted to.MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
Correct.kle4 said:
That seems incredibly unlikely. Particularly as full coalition might be unnecessary, making it easier to support on a budgetary basis while being able to disavow any particular issues either the LDs or SNP wanted to.MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
They got in bed with the far more racist conservative party.MikeSmithson said:
While the stench of Jew hate racism hangs over Corbyn's LAB the LDs won't go near them. I doubt if the SNP will eitherHYUFD said:
Progressive/Marxist Alliance of Labour, LD, SNP and Greens with Corbyn as PM opposed by Tories still largest party led by hard Brexiteer Leader of the Opposition Jacob Rees Mogg and allied with the DUP?SandyRentool said:
Progressive Alliance; Jezza in Number 10.SouthamObserver said:Sky has just updated its projection.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992476749467406336?s=210 -
Why does it always take so long to count votes in Tower Hamlets?0
