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Need to show that to Anna SoubryCarlottaVance said:0 -
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:0 -
As many as 13% of the population want us to be the Puerto Rico of the EU? They must all post on PB.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Meaningless survey - "customs controls" sounds like a good thing (which of course in some respects they are). But the survey is meaningless with a loaded question like that.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:0 -
A few more polls like that and TM will have measured the mood of the nation with her unequivocable comment today that we are out of the customs union.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:
The other thing that has happened today is to make the media contrasts the two options and out of the single market and custom union does come over as honouring the vote to leave the EU0 -
O dear - panic sets inIanB2 said:
Meaningless survey - "customs controls" sounds like a good thing (which of course in some respects they are). But the survey is meaningless with a loaded question like that.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Absolute wrong'un...
The Parliamentary Standards Commissioner’s investigation into Keith Vaz remains suspended on medical grounds. The MPs watchdog says Vaz is too sick to face scrutiny…
Funny that his constituents keep noticing him out and about in rude health.
https://order-order.com/2018/02/05/sick-investigated-keith-vaz-seen/0 -
Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.0
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"loaded" = "I don't like the result"?IanB2 said:
Meaningless survey - "customs controls" sounds like a good thing (which of course in some respects they are). But the survey is meaningless with a loaded question like that.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:
How would you have phrased it (in two words)?0 -
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
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On healthcare, I have no idea what Japan's system is but maybe we should investigate what they do?
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Really?Charles said:
I spoke to someone in the haulage industry about this back pre-Christmas. Lorries already park up for an hour or two to wait for processing that takes a couple of minutes. The seven minutes can be fitted in the same timeframe - you just need more staffAnorak said:
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.DavidL said:
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.Scott_P said:
See the problem?
Colour me doubtful
(See my previous post about 'just do this')0 -
His conclusion was that it was going to f*ck his company but he voted Brexit anyway.JosiasJessop said:
Really?Charles said:
I spoke to someone in the haulage industry about this back pre-Christmas. Lorries already park up for an hour or two to wait for processing that takes a couple of minutes. The seven minutes can be fitted in the same timeframe - you just need more staffAnorak said:
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.DavidL said:
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.Scott_P said:
See the problem?
Colour me doubtful
(See my previous post about 'just do this')0 -
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.0 -
@Anorak Given how unpopular Blair is, it’s highly unlikely he’d be on 65%. In fact, I doubt Labour have any potential leaders who would get them to 65%. Right now few politicians exist who would be able to bridge the divide.0
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Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
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I have some sympathy with that view, because this is a complex issue. Before anyone can be expected to have a view, they should understand how Rules of Origin work, the difference between a customs union and a free trade area, and also how protectionist/free trade other parts of the world are.IanB2 said:
Meaningless survey - "customs controls" sounds like a good thing (which of course in some respects they are). But the survey is meaningless with a loaded question like that.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:
But it's hard to capture all that in a simple question. And it's very hard to design a question that's not loaded in some way.0 -
I'm just devoutly thankful that the twentieth century fad of treating adult women as autonomous moral agents has been put behind us. And I am deeply confident that putting children behind the scenes in the most glamorous sport in the world is absolutely fine because there ain't no paedophiles in Formula 1, just like there ain't no paedophiles in professional football. No, sirree.Casino_Royale said:Can we go back to talking about Grid Girls?
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JRM - (duck)The_Apocalypse said:@Anorak Given how unpopular Blair is, it’s highly unlikely he’d be on 65%. In fact, I doubt Labour have any potential leaders who would get them to 65%. Right now few politicians exist who would be able to bridge the divide.
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I can’t believe this grid girls debate is still on going. I had to laugh at that YouGov poll on the whole issue though. Judging by how upset so many are about it on twitter, you’d expect to see 90% against the change.0
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I doubt it. Especially since he’s a pretty hardcore Brexiteer.Big_G_NorthWales said:
JRM - (duck)The_Apocalypse said:@Anorak Given how unpopular Blair is, it’s highly unlikely he’d be on 65%. In fact, I doubt Labour have any potential leaders who would get them to 65%. Right now few politicians exist who would be able to bridge the divide.
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What's kind of interesting about that poll is that people do seem to have internalised the idea that the point of Brexit is to do trade deals.0
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It was partly in jest but who knows these daysThe_Apocalypse said:
I doubt it. Especially since he’s a pretty hardcore Brexiteer.Big_G_NorthWales said:
JRM - (duck)The_Apocalypse said:@Anorak Given how unpopular Blair is, it’s highly unlikely he’d be on 65%. In fact, I doubt Labour have any potential leaders who would get them to 65%. Right now few politicians exist who would be able to bridge the divide.
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The correct answer should be 95% Don't Know. I would put myself in the other 5%, not because I am cleverer but because I have wasted far too much time investigating this topic. People understandably prefer to say something positive rather than appear to be stupid.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Why? Just because people don’t know all the nuances doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion about which way to go.FF43 said:
The correct answer should be 95% Don't Know. I would put myself in the other 5%, not because I am cleverer but because I have wasted far too much time investigating this topic. People understandably prefer to say something positive rather than appear to be stupid.CarlottaVance said:0 -
"Hayward predicts Corbyn will be a winner
Labour members across the borough borders in both Westminster and Barnet are trying to keep a lid on their growing belief that they could turn those two Tory councils into Labour-controlled authorities at May’s local elections. The quietly confident approach is proving difficult to contain, however, and I’ve spoken to one or two members in both boroughs who think once unthinkable victories are now within sight."
https://richardosley.com/2018/01/02/hayward-predicts-corbyn-will-be-a-winner/0 -
Yes, it started in America, but is everywhere now.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.0 -
As ever, twitter is not a microcosm of society, but of itself.The_Apocalypse said:I can’t believe this grid girls debate is still on going. I had to laugh at that YouGov poll on the whole issue though. Judging by how upset so many are about it on twitter, you’d expect to see 90% against the change.
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Denial is your comfort blanketFF43 said:
The correct answer should be 95% Don't Know. I would put myself in the other 5%, not because I am cleverer but because I have wasted far too much time investigating this topic. People understandably prefer to say something positive rather than appear to be stupid.CarlottaVance said:0 -
I agree with this, but would add, they should also have actually exported and imported something.rcs1000 said:
I have some sympathy with that view, because this is a complex issue. Before anyone can be expected to have a view, they should understand how Rules of Origin work, the difference between a customs union and a free trade area, and also how protectionist/free trade other parts of the world are.IanB2 said:
Meaningless survey - "customs controls" sounds like a good thing (which of course in some respects they are). But the survey is meaningless with a loaded question like that.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:
But it's hard to capture all that in a simple question. And it's very hard to design a question that's not loaded in some way.
I am constantly amazed at what can be achieved. I can usually get a package to CA, at a push, in 24 hours, for example.0 -
I was replying to the 'you just need more staff' comment, which is of the sort made by people who have only ever done management and have never actually done anything practical.Charles said:
His conclusion was that it was going to f*ck his company but he voted Brexit anyway.JosiasJessop said:
Really?Charles said:
I spoke to someone in the haulage industry about this back pre-Christmas. Lorries already park up for an hour or two to wait for processing that takes a couple of minutes. The seven minutes can be fitted in the same timeframe - you just need more staffAnorak said:
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.DavidL said:
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.Scott_P said:
See the problem?
Colour me doubtful
(See my previous post about 'just do this')
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Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Who could have predicted that....jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Evening all
Curious to see so many people claiming Labour would be miles ahead with another leader or a Blair-esque figure. Well, such a figure might be more telegenic than Corbyn which wouldn't be difficult but politics doesn't work like that.
The public mood is not to dwell on the result of 23/6/16 but to see what the Conservative Government can and will deliver in terms of meeting the various concerns of and reasons why people voted to LEAVE and REMAIN. That some of these objectives are mutually conflicting is something of which the Government is well aware but to mangle the old saying "you can please some of the people all the time but you'll never please all of the people all of the time."
For now, though, nothing has changed for most people since 23/6/16 and with the transition period likely to last until the end of 2020, the truth is for most people nothing will change. Why then should there be a substantial shift in political allegiances at this time ? We are in a holding pattern - until we know the shape of the A50 Treaty we won't know if May's fragile coalition will hang together or fall apart.
The other aspect for the Conservatives is that until a) May is shown to be a clear loser and b) someone else is shown to be a clear winner nothing much is going to change.0 -
JRM supports the teachings of the church on some issues.PeterC said:
JRM policy on abortion is not "medieval Papist". While he personally supports the teaching of the Church, as do millions of others, he accepts that ending abortion rights will never command a consensus and he will not seek to impose it.TGOHF said:Apart from his medieval Papist views on abortion and Brexit - can anyone name an extreme/stark JRM policy ?
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I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Irony meter on overload.FrancisUrquhart said:
Who could have predicted that....jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
The point is not that you need "a few staff", its the fact that you need them in every port and airport, and you need them all at once. From advert to first day recruitment takes aboyt six months, and we have just under fourteen months to do it in. The Dieppe raid fucked up because the tanks could not cope with a shingle beach: a simple thing that could have been dealt with but was not, with consequent slaughter. I am sick unto death of flibbertigibbets saying it'll be alright on the night and thinking if you throw it together at the last minute it'll sort itself out. That's never been true and I swear to goodness this current shower couldn't find their arse with both hands and a map.Charles said:
I spoke to someone in the haulage industry about this back pre-Christmas. Lorries already park up for an hour or two to wait for processing that takes a couple of minutes. The seven minutes can be fitted in the same timeframe - you just need more staffAnorak said:
7 minutes to process each lorry on arrival. A queue of 50 lorries coming from a channel ferry would take almost 6 hours to process, by which time another 3 ferries have arrived.DavidL said:
You have to wonder when he last caught a Ferry. 7 minutes? Wow. Wish they could match that with cars.Scott_P said:
See the problem?
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RIP brussels airlines - the Lufthansa board have sacked the CEO & CFO and are merging it with eurowings.....
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Depends how big the package is! When we do conferences over there, we need to give ourselves a fair bit of time because there is always a risk of stuff sitting in customs. I guess we'll have that in the EU now, unless we open an office in one of the member states and run our conference business from there.Mortimer said:
I agree with this, but would add, they should also have actually exported and imported something.rcs1000 said:
I have some sympathy with that view, because this is a complex issue. Before anyone can be expected to have a view, they should understand how Rules of Origin work, the difference between a customs union and a free trade area, and also how protectionist/free trade other parts of the world are.IanB2 said:
Meaningless survey - "customs controls" sounds like a good thing (which of course in some respects they are). But the survey is meaningless with a loaded question like that.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:
But it's hard to capture all that in a simple question. And it's very hard to design a question that's not loaded in some way.
I am constantly amazed at what can be achieved. I can usually get a package to CA, at a push, in 24 hours, for example.
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Of course - there are lots of variables, and it helps that I sell books.SouthamObserver said:
Depends how big the package is! When we do conferences over there, we need to give ourselves a fair bit of time because there is always a risk of stuff sitting in customs. I guess we'll have that in the EU now, unless we open an office in one of the member states and run our conference business from there.Mortimer said:
I agree with this, but would add, they should also have actually exported and imported something.rcs1000 said:
I have some sympathy with that view, because this is a complex issue. Before anyone can be expected to have a view, they should understand how Rules of Origin work, the difference between a customs union and a free trade area, and also how protectionist/free trade other parts of the world are.IanB2 said:
Meaningless survey - "customs controls" sounds like a good thing (which of course in some respects they are). But the survey is meaningless with a loaded question like that.Casino_Royale said:
Oh dear. The electorate have gone off-message again.CarlottaVance said:
But it's hard to capture all that in a simple question. And it's very hard to design a question that's not loaded in some way.
I am constantly amazed at what can be achieved. I can usually get a package to CA, at a push, in 24 hours, for example.
But even so, remarkable that I can get something half way across the world and cleared US customs in the time it takes to get a parcel from Poole to Glasgow.0 -
Oh, I'm on a train by the way (waves)0
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I have taken a 50% hit in the value of my cryptos.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.
Luckily I invested, er, £50.0 -
Fear of Corbyn, support for Brexit, and economic wellbeing is keeping Conservative support at quite a high level.DavidL said:
The polls are clearly being distorted by the number of people working away from home in Kent building the world's largest lorry park. Or something.dyingswan said:
These poll increases for the Conservatives are extraordinary given the barrage of anti Government propaganda on BBC,Sky News and Channel 4. I deduce that the electorate are saying: "Just get on with it. No election. Just deliver Brexit. Let Mrs May do what we elected her to do. And by the way we don't trust the other lot to do any better." For what it is worth I think that the British people are behaving, as ever, with characteristic common sense and calm. Unlike our media.Anorak said:
Tony Blair would have been on 65% by now. Not joking.DavidL said:
Its the lack of an alternative. Obviously.philiph said:
Cons best score since July.TheScreamingEagles said:Gold standard pollster speaks.
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/960559918792232960
I'll just go into a dark room and scratch my head whilst trying to understand how the continual mess they are in is not having a massive negative on polls.0 -
This government is a remarkable mess. Tory party seems increasingly broken and unable to govern in national interest .
Starting to think some kind of national government is going to happen.0 -
I doubt it. Very few people bought Bitcoins at their peak. (I thank whoever it was who bought my bitcoins from me the weekend before Christmas.)Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
My capita punt going ok so farFoxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc. 0 -
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this is a train that floats?viewcode said:Oh, I'm on a train by the way (waves)
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Oh FFS. Said as someone who works in price comparison. Keeping carrier info aligned is an absolute nightmare.CarlottaVance said:RIP brussels airlines - the Lufthansa board have sacked the CEO & CFO and are merging it with eurowings.....
https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/9597612970878771200 -
Brussels airlines were always more expensive than the KLM / Air France alternative when I've flown across Europe. How does that tally with rebranding as Eurowings...CarlottaVance said:RIP brussels airlines - the Lufthansa board have sacked the CEO & CFO and are merging it with eurowings.....
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There is always a mug out there...rcs1000 said:
I doubt it. Very few people bought Bitcoins at their peak. (I thank whoever it was who bought my bitcoins from me the weekend before Christmas.)Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.
Having done some deep dives of a range of "alt-coins", it is incredible how many of these have got any sort of funding. So many of the projects are just utter duds / scams.0 -
Did you buy recently and are long, or sold short before that?Pulpstar said:
My capita punt going ok so farFoxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Commanding 40% + in the present climate indicates the public do not share your viewJonathan said:This government is a remarkable mess. Tory party seems increasingly broken and unable to govern in national interest .
Starting to think some kind of national government is going to happen.0 -
ReggieCide said:
this is a train that floats?viewcode said:Oh, I'm on a train by the way (waves)
Thinks.
No.
No it isn't.
However, it is a train that trains. Or possibly rails...
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Polls irrelevant. This is about having a coherent executable policy you can get through parliament. Frictionless trade outside the customs union is a fantasy today.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Commanding 40% + in the present climate indicates the public do not share your viewJonathan said:This government is a remarkable mess. Tory party seems increasingly broken and unable to govern in national interest .
Starting to think some kind of national government is going to happen.
Anyway we know you need to be twenty points ahead going into a campaign to scrape in as a minority.0 -
LOL, backed by USB is quite a good description of cryptocurrency generally, but (now the edit window has closed) you may have meant USD.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
Yes...wonderful iPhone auto-correct. Although in the case of Tether it is definitely backed by nothing more than a USB, despite their claims.Ishmael_Z said:
LOL, backed by USB is quite a good description of cryptocurrency generally, but (now the edit window has closed) you may have meant USD.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
Maybe - but TM has made a decision and may well have captured the public mood (not the pro EU media and journalists)Jonathan said:
Polls irrelevant. This is about having a coherent executable policy you can get through parliament. Frictionless trade outside the customs union is a fantasy today.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Commanding 40% + in the present climate indicates the public do not share your viewJonathan said:This government is a remarkable mess. Tory party seems increasingly broken and unable to govern in national interest .
Starting to think some kind of national government is going to happen.
Anyway we know you need to be twenty points ahead going into a campaign to scrape in as a minority.0 -
Isn't there something along those lines..... ?Scott_P said:
https://www.ebu.ch/news/2017/01/eu-uhf-spectrum-agreement-will-safeguard-future-of-free-to-air-tv-distribution
And...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETSI0 -
Davis Davis clearly sees himself as some kind of R. MacDonald. Not sure he's modelling himself on the right one though.Jonathan said:Starting to think some kind of national government is going to happen.
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Bought 783 at 157pTheWhiteRabbit said:
Did you buy recently and are long, or sold short before that?Pulpstar said:
My capita punt going ok so farFoxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Maybe would have been better to have Boris strapped into the delivery side of Brexit. Davis, Fox et al maybe see their reputations as directly tied to success or fail of the outcome, while Boris is free to keep moving to a harder and harder position so whatever finally gets implemented, if it fails, only failed because it wasn't hard enough and therefore not his fault. Reminds of Tony Benn saying the Labour Party lost in 83 because it manifesto wasn't left wing enough.Gardenwalker said:
Having just finished All Out War, it’s fascinating to observe the “journey” Brexiters have made in the past 18 months.Barnesian said:
I think that is Boris's trump card - after the members have elected him leader.williamglenn said:Jacob Rees-Mogg is like an amalgam of Boris Johnson and Daniel Hannan but far more politically interesting than either of them. He's a danger to Brexit because his clarity of argument will inevitably lead to him making the case that it is a pointless waste of time.
If he's nimble enough he can corner the market for true believers, and then outmanoeuvre everyone by being the first to back Remain.
David Davis campaigned with Farage. He’s now thought to want a very soft Brexit and is making common cause with Hammond.
Boris, meanwhile, was on the fence and thought a first referendum might be a way of extracting concessions before a second vote. He’s now aligned himself with the hard-as-fuck Brexit group.
Davis presumably has been mugged by reality, whereas Boris in the FO is free to figure out whatever position might be the best route to the top job.0 -
Respectfully, if someone asks me the circumstances under which you should initiate heart surgery, I defer my answer. Whoever put together that survey question clearly doesn't understand trade policy issues either as the options aren't correctly described.RobD said:
Why? Just because people don’t know all the nuances doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion about which way to go.FF43 said:
The correct answer should be 95% Don't Know. I would put myself in the other 5%, not because I am cleverer but because I have wasted far too much time investigating this topic. People understandably prefer to say something positive rather than appear to be stupid.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Thought you were talking about bitcoin for a moment therePulpstar said:
Bought 783 at 157pTheWhiteRabbit said:
Did you buy recently and are long, or sold short before that?Pulpstar said:
My capita punt going ok so farFoxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.
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Good plan. Oh since I started composing this post another 100 million Tether have been created. And again...FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
But it's a poll to find out what people's opinions are. That matters politically, no matter how ill-informed they are. It's not like yougov is intending to sell this as expert advice.FF43 said:
Respectfully, if someone asks me the circumstances under which you should initiate heart surgery, I defer my answer. Whoever put together that survey question clearly doesn't understand trade policy issues either as the options aren't correctly described.RobD said:
Why? Just because people don’t know all the nuances doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion about which way to go.FF43 said:
The correct answer should be 95% Don't Know. I would put myself in the other 5%, not because I am cleverer but because I have wasted far too much time investigating this topic. People understandably prefer to say something positive rather than appear to be stupid.CarlottaVance said:0 -
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BBC reporting US stock falls due to prospect of higher interest rates0
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Just astroturfing in the wind.Jonathan said:This government is a remarkable mess. Tory party seems increasingly broken and unable to govern in national interest .
Starting to think some kind of national government is going to happen.
There was just this same artificial 'mess' over the Article 50 law suit, the James Chapman new party, the 'we must stay in the single market 'cos Umunna et al' rigmarole.
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Surely a decent amount of fictional money in the Cryptos?rcs1000 said:
I doubt it. Very few people bought Bitcoins at their peak. (I thank whoever it was who bought my bitcoins from me the weekend before Christmas.)Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
How would you conduct elections then? Only a very small number of people understand the full implications of what they are voting for. I think people are allowed to marke a call regarding which direction the country goes.FF43 said:
Respectfully, if someone asks me the circumstances under which you should initiate heart surgery, I defer my answer. Whoever put together that survey question clearly doesn't understand trade policy issues either as the options aren't correctly described.RobD said:
Why? Just because people don’t know all the nuances doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion about which way to go.FF43 said:
The correct answer should be 95% Don't Know. I would put myself in the other 5%, not because I am cleverer but because I have wasted far too much time investigating this topic. People understandably prefer to say something positive rather than appear to be stupid.CarlottaVance said:0 -
The main takeaway i have from that photo is that Barnier is quite tall.williamglenn said:
Oh and Starmer looks like he's just realised we're actually leaving the SM.... 0 -
Consorting with the enemy? I see Corbyn is up to his old tricks...williamglenn said:
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Unfortunately my giving you advice would be, er, illegal, so let's leave it there shall we?Pulpstar said:
Bought 783 at 157pTheWhiteRabbit said:
Did you buy recently and are long, or sold short before that?Pulpstar said:
My capita punt going ok so farFoxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Starmer always has a rabbit in headlights look about himMortimer said:
The main takeaway i have from that photo is that Barnier is quite tall.williamglenn said:
Oh and Starmer looks like he's just realised we're actually leaving the SM....0 -
That line didn`t work for Tim Farron, did it?SouthamObserver said:
JRM supports the teachings of the church on some issues.PeterC said:
JRM policy on abortion is not "medieval Papist". While he personally supports the teaching of the Church, as do millions of others, he accepts that ending abortion rights will never command a consensus and he will not seek to impose it.TGOHF said:Apart from his medieval Papist views on abortion and Brexit - can anyone name an extreme/stark JRM policy ?
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Michael Barnier, This is your life.williamglenn said:0 -
The risk from a crypto collapse isn't so much to individuals but to banks, since you can bet that one way or another a lot of the potential losses will end up sitting with them.Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Intelligent man.Charles said:
Starmer always has a rabbit in headlights look about himMortimer said:
The main takeaway i have from that photo is that Barnier is quite tall.williamglenn said:
Oh and Starmer looks like he's just realised we're actually leaving the SM....0 -
JRM is a good deal more comfortable with his beliefs than Tim Farron, and is not seeking to lead the Lib Dems.PClipp said:
That line didn`t work for Tim Farron, did it?SouthamObserver said:
JRM supports the teachings of the church on some issues.PeterC said:
JRM policy on abortion is not "medieval Papist". While he personally supports the teaching of the Church, as do millions of others, he accepts that ending abortion rights will never command a consensus and he will not seek to impose it.TGOHF said:Apart from his medieval Papist views on abortion and Brexit - can anyone name an extreme/stark JRM policy ?
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Because they buy them as a spec, or lend against them as security, or what?IanB2 said:
The risk from a crypto collapse isn't so much to individuals but to banks, since you can bet that one way or another a lot of the potential losses will end up sitting with them.Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Crypto is tiny market with a valuation supported by pump and dump and wash trading on incredibly thin liquidity. There's no risk to institutions, just suckers.IanB2 said:
The risk from a crypto collapse isn't so much to individuals but to banks, since you can bet that one way or another a lot of the potential losses will end up sitting with them.Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Which is apparently being thought much more likely because of job growth.Big_G_NorthWales said:BBC reporting US stock falls due to prospect of higher interest rates
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42936613RobD said:0 -
I would love to know the bank who keeps lending them all this money to back their coin. I might go to them and ask for a $100 million. I somehow fear that this bank doesn't exist.Alistair said:
Good plan. Oh since I started composing this post another 100 million Tether have been created. And again...FrancisUrquhart said:-1 -
Yes, this is hardly news as it relates to the strong US payroll data released on Friday which triggered the current sell-off along with some disappointing corporate numbers.Big_G_NorthWales said:BBC reporting US stock falls due to prospect of higher interest rates
The view is the strong payroll dats will force renewed rises in interest rates and, I imagine, there will be pressure to raise rates here as well.
After years of QE as financial methodone, it looks as though we will all have to go cold turkey - good for savers though, let's not forget.
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You mean he`s not going to be attacked by the Tory spin machine.....Sean_F said:
JRM is a good deal more comfortable with his beliefs than Tim Farron, and is not seeking to lead the Lib Dems.PClipp said:
That line didn`t work for Tim Farron, did it?SouthamObserver said:
JRM supports the teachings of the church on some issues.PeterC said:
JRM policy on abortion is not "medieval Papist". While he personally supports the teaching of the Church, as do millions of others, he accepts that ending abortion rights will never command a consensus and he will not seek to impose it.TGOHF said:Apart from his medieval Papist views on abortion and Brexit - can anyone name an extreme/stark JRM policy ?
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I don't know if this is correct, but it is certainly lucid:Alistair said:
Crypto is tiny market with a valuation supported by pump and dump and wash trading on incredibly thin liquidity. There's no risk to institutions, just suckers.IanB2 said:
The risk from a crypto collapse isn't so much to individuals but to banks, since you can bet that one way or another a lot of the potential losses will end up sitting with them.Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.
http://thereformedbroker.com/2018/01/07/the-fatal-mistake-crypto-investors-are-making-now/0 -
More likely the stock market reaction will panic central banks into coming up with some reason to defer any action, hoping that wage inflation settles of its own accord. If that doesn't work, we are heading for a period of significantly higher inflation which, as it happens, is the least worst (for the debtors) of the various ways in which the crisis in public debt can be resolved.stodge said:
Yes, this is hardly news as it relates to the strong US payroll data released on Friday which triggered the current sell-off along with some disappointing corporate numbers.Big_G_NorthWales said:BBC reporting US stock falls due to prospect of higher interest rates
The view is the strong payroll dats will force renewed rises in interest rates and, I imagine, there will be pressure to raise rates here as well.
After years of QE as financial methodone, it looks as though we will all have to go cold turkey - good for savers though, let's not forget.0 -
He looks like he is a member of The Remove at Greyfriars.Charles said:
Starmer always has a rabbit in headlights look about himMortimer said:
The main takeaway i have from that photo is that Barnier is quite tall.williamglenn said:
Oh and Starmer looks like he's just realised we're actually leaving the SM....0 -
One of the difficulties of the Labour party for women must be the ever-present suspicion that you're just a token woman, whatever genuine talent & value you bring to anything. Sad.williamglenn said:0 -
I though the nominal value of Cryptos was quite large. A lot depends when people bought in.Alistair said:
Crypto is tiny market with a valuation supported by pump and dump and wash trading on incredibly thin liquidity. There's no risk to institutions, just suckers.IanB2 said:
The risk from a crypto collapse isn't so much to individuals but to banks, since you can bet that one way or another a lot of the potential losses will end up sitting with them.Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.0 -
Thanks for the link.Ishmael_Z said:
I don't know if this is correct, but it is certainly lucid:Alistair said:
Crypto is tiny market with a valuation supported by pump and dump and wash trading on incredibly thin liquidity. There's no risk to institutions, just suckers.IanB2 said:
The risk from a crypto collapse isn't so much to individuals but to banks, since you can bet that one way or another a lot of the potential losses will end up sitting with them.Foxy said:
I am wondering if the Crypto bubble bursting is the trigger for the drop, as people are forced to cover their positions.jayfdee said:
Be thankful you are not in Cryptos, it is a bloodbath at the moment.geoffw said:
Looks pretty widespread.Foxy said:
Hard to know just yet, but does seem a bit ominous to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Profit taking or something more seriousFoxy said:Dow Jones heavily down again. It all looks a bit bearish to me.
Sitting tight though, as I have a pretty cautious and diversified portfolio at present.
Me, I am not in Cryptos, and will just sit out the FTSE/Dow etc.
http://thereformedbroker.com/2018/01/07/the-fatal-mistake-crypto-investors-are-making-now/
My 85-year old mother asked me what Bitcoin was the other day, a clear sign that awareness of the boom has spread very widely. Although I have a hazy idea I thought it best to say that I didn't understand it. But it does seem to me that the long-term value is more likely to be in the technology itself, rather than the actual currencies.0
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