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Cameron and Blair made the daft mistakes of announcing they were stepping down.
May not repeating their mistakes is somehow a mistake ?
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I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.TheScreamingEagles said:
7/7 was weird for me.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.0 -
There was reports that Henri Paul was in regular contact with secret services.This obviously fueled some conspiracy theories.However as with JFK It was Lee Harvey Oswald and Diana it was a traffic accident .PeterC said:
It's difficult to see how the high speed crash could have been contrived - unless Henri Paul was in a suicide pact.GIN1138 said:
So does my Mother...Yorkcity said:
I woke my wife at 5am to tell her the news , after hearing it on radio 5..The first thing she said whilst half a wake , was do you think the spooks have done it ? She still believes it was more than just an accident.GIN1138 said:
I remember waking up at around 8am and turning on telly.Richard_Nabavi said:On the morning after Princess Diana's death, my wife and I got up and went off to visit Chartwell, without hearing any news. We were very pleasantly surprised to have the place almost entirely to ourselves. It was only as we were leaving that one of the attendants told us why it was empty.
Clearly someone important had died but It wasn't immediately obvious who so I thought it was the Queen Mum.
About two minutes later it become obvious...
I think it will always be one of the deaths where about half the population believes it was a conspiracy...0 -
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care aboutTheScreamingEagles said:
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.Alanbrooke said:rofl
you think 2 spads are flashman
as I said youve lost the plot0 -
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.nichomar said:
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.TheScreamingEagles said:
7/7 was weird for me.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.0 -
May and Osborne are each dismal in different ways.Alanbrooke said:
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care aboutTheScreamingEagles said:
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.Alanbrooke said:rofl
you think 2 spads are flashman
as I said youve lost the plot0 -
Yes, it is a tragedy that winning majorities/making net seat gains is viewed as extreme by you Leavers.Alanbrooke said:
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care aboutTheScreamingEagles said:
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.Alanbrooke said:rofl
you think 2 spads are flashman
as I said youve lost the plot0 -
Was in London on 9/11 and one daughter was working with me on work experience and another working in Kensington, whilst there was no direct threat the infrastructure broke downas people paniced and it took hours to get home,Mortimer said:
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.nichomar said:
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.TheScreamingEagles said:
7/7 was weird for me.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.0 -
I think the idea is that MI5 "clipped" the car (at speed) to send it out of control in the tunnel (didn't they try to bump off someone in Serbia the same way years ago?)PeterC said:
It's difficult to see how the high speed crash could have been contrived - unless Henri Paul was in a suicide pact.GIN1138 said:
So does my Mother...Yorkcity said:
I woke my wife at 5am to tell her the news , after hearing it on radio 5..The first thing she said whilst half a wake , was do you think the spooks have done it ? She still believes it was more than just an accident.GIN1138 said:
I remember waking up at around 8am and turning on telly.Richard_Nabavi said:On the morning after Princess Diana's death, my wife and I got up and went off to visit Chartwell, without hearing any news. We were very pleasantly surprised to have the place almost entirely to ourselves. It was only as we were leaving that one of the attendants told us why it was empty.
Clearly someone important had died but It wasn't immediately obvious who so I thought it was the Queen Mum.
About two minutes later it become obvious...
I think it will always be one of the deaths where about half the population believes it was a conspiracy...
Keith Allen (in the Fayed financed documentary he did a few years ago) claimed the Queen and the Queen Mum were like "gangsters in tiaras" lol!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.0 -
what planet are you on ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes, it is a tragedy that winning majorities/making net seat gains is viewed as extreme by you Leavers.Alanbrooke said:
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care aboutTheScreamingEagles said:
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.Alanbrooke said:rofl
you think 2 spads are flashman
as I said youve lost the plot
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff0 -
No it's a Customs Union. Fundamentally differentrottenborough said:https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/903216807447756800
er, the single market is a free trade market. World's biggest surely. Why are we leaving? So we don't have to wait for the EU to do a deal with Japan.
Oh wait...0 -
Why? Depends what's been said and done. I'm not a fan of SIr Phillip ( and I happen to think the world benefits from Frank Field being in it ) but at the same time it's not open season on Sir Phillip as if he too does not benefit from equality before the law.Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
He may be in the wrong here, he may not.0 -
The Conservatives should have won in 2005 and would have done if they hadn't destroyed their reputation post-97 in the Hague/IDS/Howard era. Cameron brought them back from a dire position and there's now a real risk Brexit will drag them back there.Alanbrooke said:what planet are you on ?
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff0 -
voters dont carewilliamglenn said:
The Conservatives should have won in 2005 and would have done if they hadn't destroyed their reputation post-97 in the Hague/IDS/Howard era. Cameron brought them back from a dire position and there's now a real risk Brexit will drag them back there.Alanbrooke said:what planet are you on ?
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff
they want houses, education and pay rises0 -
May's biggest problem before and after she became leader was not having her own elected uber loyal George Osborne. She relied far too heavily on her closest advisers at the Home Office and then in No10 before the GE, and not nearly enough on her own Cabinet colleagues. The friction between Osborne and May while she was at the Home Office could have been avoided had she and her team been seen to be team players rather than team May. Osborne was right to stand up to her and her team back then despite friction it caused, he was doing his job as Cameron's closest Cabinet colleague. May and her team in effect sacked Osborne rather than allowing him the dignity of resigning and then thanking him for his service because he was too good at his job. It still remains May's biggest strategic mistake.TheScreamingEagles said:
Her condoning of the bullying behaviour of Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill makes her a nasty person.PeterC said:
This probably makes TMay unsuited as PM. I do not understand why it makes her nasty though.MikeSmithson said:
But he's not as nasty as TMay who is simply incapable of interacting with people and hasn't the mental agility to cope with being questioned. Labour must be cheering her on in her desire to stay till the next GE.RoyalBlue said:Osborne is a vengeful and unpleasant piece of work. If he and his underlings succeed in scuppering May and Brexit, Labour will win a landslide next time.
I have never been a fan of May, but I have warmed to her more since her two key advisors have gone post GE. She needs to now assert her authority again within her Cabinet, and she needs to reach out and bring back some of the talented MPs who she ditched in her last reshuffle.0 -
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.0 -
Is it fundamentally different to the US customs union?Charles said:
No it's a Customs Union. Fundamentally differentrottenborough said:https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/903216807447756800
er, the single market is a free trade market. World's biggest surely. Why are we leaving? So we don't have to wait for the EU to do a deal with Japan.
Oh wait...0 -
My hubby was in the departures lounge at Heathrow waiting to board a flight back to Aberdeen the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway. I had just turned on the TV when the news broke, and then he phoned me to tell me his flight had been delayed totally unaware of what had happened. I had to tell him he was flying nowhere that evening due the IRA putting a hole in the runway.nichomar said:
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.TheScreamingEagles said:
7/7 was weird for me.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.0 -
2005 was a rare example of an election that was good to lose. The Tories would have run straight into the crash and been hammered in 2010.williamglenn said:
The Conservatives should have won in 2005 and would have done if they hadn't destroyed their reputation post-97 in the Hague/IDS/Howard era. Cameron brought them back from a dire position and there's now a real risk Brexit will drag them back there.Alanbrooke said:what planet are you on ?
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff
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Certainly Blair's overcome with emotion glottal stop was enough to make a cat laugh.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.0 -
That's a phenomena that hasn't got any better, I'm afraid.Pulpstar said:
My first thought on hearing the news was that that would be THE NEWS for at least the next two weeks (months), and probably longer...Yorkcity said:
I woke my wife at 5am to tell her the news , after hearing it on radio 5..The first thing she said whilst half a wake , was do you think the spooks have done it ? She still believes it was more than just an accident.GIN1138 said:
I remember waking up at around 8am and turning on telly.Richard_Nabavi said:On the morning after Princess Diana's death, my wife and I got up and went off to visit Chartwell, without hearing any news. We were very pleasantly surprised to have the place almost entirely to ourselves. It was only as we were leaving that one of the attendants told us why it was empty.
Clearly someone important had died but It wasn't immediately obvious who so I thought it was the Queen Mum.
About two minutes later it become obvious...0 -
Already takenwelshowl said:
I was more thinking Duke of Brabant.Mortimer said:
Quite. I hope Davis is well rewarded for his efforts.Richard_Nabavi said:Incidentally, it's noticeable that no-one is now claiming that the UK Brexit team are amateurish and unprepared.
Hereditary peerage at least.
Earl of H&H?0 -
I've thought Blair was a creep since Day One.Ishmael_Z said:
Certainly Blair's overcome with emotion glottal stop was enough to make a cat laugh.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.0 -
I think the cantankerous relationship between May and Osborne goes a long way back and is deeply personal.fitalass said:
May's biggest problem before and after she became leader was not having her own elected uber loyal George Osborne. She relied far too heavily on her closest advisers at the Home Office and then in No10 before the GE, and not nearly enough on her own Cabinet colleagues. The friction between Osborne and May while she was at the Home Office could have been avoided had she and her team been seen to be team players rather than team May. Osborne was right to stand up to her and her team back then despite friction it caused, he was doing his job as Cameron's closest Cabinet colleague. May and her team in effect sacked Osborne rather than allowing him the dignity of resigning and then thanking him for his service because he was too good at his job. It still remains May's biggest strategic mistake.TheScreamingEagles said:
Her condoning of the bullying behaviour of Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill makes her a nasty person.PeterC said:
This probably makes TMay unsuited as PM. I do not understand why it makes her nasty though.MikeSmithson said:
But he's not as nasty as TMay who is simply incapable of interacting with people and hasn't the mental agility to cope with being questioned. Labour must be cheering her on in her desire to stay till the next GE.RoyalBlue said:Osborne is a vengeful and unpleasant piece of work. If he and his underlings succeed in scuppering May and Brexit, Labour will win a landslide next time.
I have never been a fan of May, but I have warmed to her more since her two key advisors have gone post GE. She needs to now assert her authority again within her Cabinet, and she needs to reach out and bring back some of the talented MPs who she ditched in her last reshuffle.0 -
Presumably you fancied her and he didn't?Mortimer said:
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.nichomar said:
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.TheScreamingEagles said:
7/7 was weird for me.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.0 -
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If he think he has been libelled shouldn't he have a right to defend his reputation?Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.0 -
She could be done for after this latest mistake...Scott_P said:0 -
The US is a country the EU isn't. So yes.williamglenn said:
Is it fundamentally different to the US customs union?Charles said:
No it's a Customs Union. Fundamentally differentrottenborough said:https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/903216807447756800
er, the single market is a free trade market. World's biggest surely. Why are we leaving? So we don't have to wait for the EU to do a deal with Japan.
Oh wait...
It's not dissimilar to the Zollverein and we all know where that led0 -
Haha! He's the forgetful type!Charles said:
Presumably you fancied her and he didn't?Mortimer said:
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.nichomar said:
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.TheScreamingEagles said:
7/7 was weird for me.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.0 -
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.0 -
Asking for a friend, it is no longer treason to imagine the death of the Monarch?0
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Genuine, but not hysterical, grief - enough to satisfy the demands of decency. Then the long knives...TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Dianaesque response.0 -
Well the Monarch's eldest Son has been "imagining" it every day since 1982 so I think your "friend" is OK...TheScreamingEagles said:Asking for a friend, it is no longer treason to imagine the death of the Monarch?
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No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.0 -
The way HMQ is going she might outlive Charles!!!Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
Imagine it. You wait all those years and years and years for you old Ma to croak it so you can take the throne, and then, right as your time is coming in to view you pop off first!
What a pisser! 0 -
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)0 -
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.0
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might be the same person? only askin'GIN1138 said:
Well the Monarch's eldest Son has been "imagining" it every day since 1982 so I think your "friend" is OK...TheScreamingEagles said:Asking for a friend, it is no longer treason to imagine the death of the Monarch?
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That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?0 -
Charlie is certainly not the darling of many of my acquaintance.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.0 -
It was only a minority of people who behaved in that manner.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
Predominantly gay men and less intelligent women.
But the image of a nation in hysterical mourning was bigged up by the media.
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just a shame he wouldn't be around to enjoy itGIN1138 said:
The way HMQ is going she might outlive Charles!!!Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
Imagine it. You wait all those years and years and years for you old Ma to croak it so you can take the throne, and then, right as your time is coming in to view you pop off first!
What a pisser!0 -
Surely it would be The United Republic of Great Britain & Northern Ireland ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)
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Yeah.Torby_Fennel said:
Surely it would be The United Republic of Great Britain & Northern Ireland ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)
Oops.0 -
Yes, and it is irritating when some complain when the Standard headlines bad news for the Tories, as if Osborne should be running a CCHQ-directed Pravda.SandraM said:Whatever people think of Osborne as a politician or as a human being, I picked up a copy of the London Evening Standard yesterday on the train and I was impressed by how he has improved it.
(And fwiw I think Britain would be a better place had Osborne gone into the wallpaper firm rather than politics.)0 -
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.TheScreamingEagles said:
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.0 -
The Barnsley accent is very heavy.Yorkcity said:
South Yorkshire can be , York seems very mild in comparison.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, the thing about 7/7 I remember was a southern twonk journalist claiming one of the nutcases had a broad Yorkshire accent, when he clearly had an ordinary one [for those unaware, broad Yorkshire is bloody indecipherable].
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According to bbc sport....
Alexis Sanchez had informed the people closest to himself that the move to Manchester was done and he was off.
Awkward...0 -
I really hope not because a nine-day shutdown really would boost the republican cause. You'd like to think plans have been updated since the old king died. Black armbands should cover most sporting events.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
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I think Queenie is respected rather than loved. Not the same thing when it comes to outpourings of grief even for gays and unintelligent women (?).tlg86 said:
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.TheScreamingEagles said:
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.0 -
The words brewery and piss up come to mind.FrancisUrquhart said:According to bbc sport....
Alexis Sanchez had informed the people closest to himself that the move to Manchester was done and he was off.
Awkward...0 -
Just imagine if it happens during the 2020/21 and 2022/23 seasons.tlg86 said:
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.TheScreamingEagles said:
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.
Those seasons are already massively messed up.0 -
Also it won't be a shock in the way Diana was. It will be old lady who has been monarch for pretty much everybodies life has passed away.ReggieCide said:
I think Queenie is respected rather than loved. Not the same thing when it comes to outpourings of grief.tlg86 said:
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.TheScreamingEagles said:
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.0 -
Unless Queenie leaves a drink behind the bar?DecrepitJohnL said:
I really hope not because a nine-day shutdown really would boost the republican cause. You'd like to think plans have been updated since the old king died. Black armbands should cover most sporting events.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
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That's nearly as bad as Peter Odemwingie on transfer deadline day, though Riyad Mahrez today was pretty funny.FrancisUrquhart said:According to bbc sport....
Alexis Sanchez had informed the people closest to himself that the move to Manchester was done and he was off.
Awkward...0 -
"Rome was founded as a republic."TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah.Torby_Fennel said:
Surely it would be The United Republic of Great Britain & Northern Ireland ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)
Oops.0 -
'London Bridge is down': the secret plan for the days after the Queen’s deathDecrepitJohnL said:
I really hope not because a nine-day shutdown really would boost the republican cause. You'd like to think plans have been updated since the old king died. Black armbands should cover most sporting events.tlg86 said:As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
She is venerated around the world. She has outlasted 12 US presidents. She stands for stability and order. But her kingdom is in turmoil, and her subjects are in denial that her reign will ever end. That’s why the palace has a plan.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge0 -
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.0 -
Nothing can top odemwongie incident. Although the west ham player who passed a medical with another club yesterday without his club giving permission or actually wanting to sell him does come close.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's nearly as bad as Peter Odemwingie on transfer deadline day, though Riyad Mahrez today was pretty funny.FrancisUrquhart said:According to bbc sport....
Alexis Sanchez had informed the people closest to himself that the move to Manchester was done and he was off.
Awkward...0 -
Charles is like Joffrey.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.0 -
Commonwealth of Great Britain & Northern Ireland.TheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)0 -
There will be bulletins from the palace – not many, but enough. “The Queen is suffering from great physical prostration, accompanied by symptoms which cause much anxiety,” announced Sir James Reid, Queen Victoria’s physician, two days before her death in 1901.
“The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close,” was the final notice issued by George V’s doctor, Lord Dawson, at 9.30pm on the night of 20 January 1936. Not long afterwards, Dawson injected the king with 750mg of morphine and a gram of cocaine – enough to kill him twice over – in order to ease the monarch’s suffering, and to have him expire in time for the printing presses of the Times, which rolled at midnight.0 -
As George VII , it has been suggested!Sunil_Prasannan said:
Commonwealth of Great Britain & Northern Ireland.TheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)0 -
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?Richard_Nabavi said:
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.0 -
It'll be like the Martin Shkreli jury selection all over again.Sean_F said:
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?Richard_Nabavi said:
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/martin-shkreli-trial-jurors-wu-tang-clan0 -
My abiding memory of the aftermath of Diana's death was that the Beeb postponed the very first episode of "Full Circle with Michael Palin", the one wot he travels round the Pacific Rim.0
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He is rich. He is litigious. Think that through.Sean_F said:
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?Richard_Nabavi said:
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.0 -
The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/9033295415397130250 -
Scott's last expedition had literally pounds of cocaine with it, as local anaesthetic for snow blindness, and we know from a diary entry a couple of days before Oates' death that they had plenty of morphine too. It has always struck me as odd that they didn't take advantage of the fact.TheScreamingEagles said:There will be bulletins from the palace – not many, but enough. “The Queen is suffering from great physical prostration, accompanied by symptoms which cause much anxiety,” announced Sir James Reid, Queen Victoria’s physician, two days before her death in 1901.
“The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close,” was the final notice issued by George V’s doctor, Lord Dawson, at 9.30pm on the night of 20 January 1936. Not long afterwards, Dawson injected the king with 750mg of morphine and a gram of cocaine – enough to kill him twice over – in order to ease the monarch’s suffering, and to have him expire in time for the printing presses of the Times, which rolled at midnight.0 -
Had it been around at the time, that would have caused a complete meltdown on Digital Spy.Sunil_Prasannan said:My abiding memory of the aftermath of Diana's death was that the Beeb postponed the very first episode of "Full Circle with Michael Palin", the one wot he travels round the Pacific Rim.
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Everyone seems to be assuming Northern Ireland would remain with Great Britain in the event of the monarchy being overthrown... the loyalists are loyal to the crown. Maybe we end up with King Charles of Northern Ireland?0
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Who cares what he thinks. Firstly the Remaniacs and their Brussels masters keep telling us that the negotiations are with the EU as a unified front not with individual countries and secondly the FDP are not going to win in Germany. This is akin to Farage telling us what the UKIP line will be in negotiations when they won the election. More desperation from William it seems.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/9033295415397130250 -
Silly me, forgetting that absolute privilege attaches to anything posted on pb.TheScreamingEagles said:
It'll be like the Martin Shkreli jury selection all over again.Sean_F said:
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?Richard_Nabavi said:
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/martin-shkreli-trial-jurors-wu-tang-clan0 -
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.0 -
And makes Jeremy Corbyn look right-wing.Sean_F said:
Charles is like Joffrey.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.0 -
I hope not. That episode was sickening and ridiculous.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.0 -
Bet a section of them would look forward to his son. King Billy has had a fair few murals and such like over there.chrisoxon said:Everyone seems to be assuming Northern Ireland would remain with Great Britain in the event of the monarchy being overthrown... the loyalists are loyal to the crown. Maybe we end up with King Charles of Northern Ireland?
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I'd be hard pressed to tell the differences between any of the German political parties, to be honest, aside from De Linke and AfD.Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks. Firstly the Remaniacs and their Brussels masters keep telling us that the negotiations are with the EU as a unified front not with individual countries and secondly the FDP are not going to win in Germany. This is akin to Farage telling us what the UKIP line will be in negotiations when they won the election. More desperation from William it seems.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
That tweet could have been written by the EU Commission press release team.0 -
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.williamglenn said:
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
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This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.PeterC said:
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.williamglenn said:
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.0 -
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There is no chance of the CSU supporting a coalition with the Greens when the AfD are an alternative, especially as the AfD would have a field day in Bavaria so that is a non-starter as without CSU seats and votes Merkel cannot govern. It will be another Grand Coalitionwilliamglenn said:
This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.PeterC said:
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.williamglenn said:
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.0 -
One day, it will be CDU/CSU/AFD, but Merkel always prefers to tack Left.williamglenn said:
This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.PeterC said:
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.williamglenn said:
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI5cEp731Iwilliamglenn said:
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.0 -
Once Merkel goes if Edmund Stoiber, the 2002 CDU/CSU candidate for Chancellor, former Bavarian President and current CSU chairman and his allies regain the leadership that is possible. Last year Stoiber said a state election result was "a debacle for Angela Merkel and her refugee policy." 'It was not enough to criticise the AfD's voters, he argued - the CDU had to understand why people were losing faith in its policies.Sean_F said:
One day, it will be CDU/CSU/AFD, but Merkel always prefers to tack Left.williamglenn said:
This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.PeterC said:
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.williamglenn said:
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.
Mr Stoiber called for a limit on the number of people entering Germany."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-372742220 -
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Mathematician Who Claimed 'P Is Not Equal To NP' Says His Proof Is Wrong
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If Charles gets too unpopular Kate will force William to make him abdicate in his favour as you would know if you have seen King Charles IIITheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)0 -
No, Diana was part Hollywood, part icon, part Princess, Kennedyesque who died at the peak of her youthful beauty.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
The Queen dying will be like your Gran dying, just on a national scale and with more pomp and ceremony
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The same FDP who are close allies of the Lib Dems...?AlastairMeeks said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI5cEp731Iwilliamglenn said:
The UK government - http://news.sky.com/story/next-phase-of-brexit-talks-likely-delayed-to-december-sky-sources-10991514Richard_Tyndall said:
Who cares what he thinks.williamglenn said:The German FDP leader comments on reports that his party would adopt a more 'businesslike' approach to Brexit:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.0 -
Meanwhile beyond Germany in New Zealand (which votes the same weekend in its general election) the New Zealand Labor Party are having a Corbyn+ resurgence in the polls. A poll out today gave them a 2% lead over PM Bill English's Nationals 43% to 41% less than a month after new leader Jacinda Ardern took over from Andrew Little. New Zealand First are third on 8% and the Greens on 5%
A month ago the same poll gave the Nationals a 21% lead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_New_Zealand_general_election,_2017#cite_note-ONCB-31Aug2017-970 -
That is an extraordinarily bold prediction. Kate will 'force' William? William will 'make' Charles?HYUFD said:
If Charles gets too unpopular Kate will force William to make him abdicate in his favour as you would know if you have seen King Charles IIITheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)0 -
As I said if you watched the play King Charles III (or the BBC2 adaptation) you would know what I was talking aboutPeterC said:
That is an extraordinarily bold prediction. Kate will 'force' William? William will 'make' Charles?HYUFD said:
If Charles gets too unpopular Kate will force William to make him abdicate in his favour as you would know if you have seen King Charles IIITheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Charles_III_(play)
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It's the plot of the play.PeterC said:
That is an extraordinarily bold prediction. Kate will 'force' William? William will 'make' Charles?HYUFD said:
If Charles gets too unpopular Kate will force William to make him abdicate in his favour as you would know if you have seen King Charles IIITheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)0 -
Dunno, but I'm quite certain that it's not possible to to lower his reputation among right-on thinking people.Sean_F said:
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?Richard_Nabavi said:
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?Pong said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-41073367
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.0 -
You also have to distinguish between media hysteria and the average person.HYUFD said:
No, Diana was part Hollywood, part icon, part Princess, Kennedyesque who died at the peak of her youthful beauty.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
The Queen dying will be like your Gran dying, just on a national scale and with more pomp and ceremony
In the canteen at my work (big 4 accountancy firm in Central London) nobody was any more concerned about Diana's death than any other random person having died in a car accident. Sorry to hear the news, sorry to hear two kids had lost their Mum - but it happens every day to someone so no more fuss than for any other death.
60 million people in the UK. A small percentage equals a lot of people and the media love hysteria.0 -
Of course it is not the same as a death in the family but nonetheless the poll today confirming the vast majority of those alive at her death remember precisely where they were when they heard she died confirms her death was our Kennedy assassinationMikeL said:
You also have to distinguish between media hysteria and the average person.HYUFD said:
No, Diana was part Hollywood, part icon, part Princess, Kennedyesque who died at the peak of her youthful beauty.TheScreamingEagles said:
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.Casino_Royale said:
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.DavidL said:
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.eek said:
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...DavidL said:
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
The Queen dying will be like your Gran dying, just on a national scale and with more pomp and ceremony
In the canteen at my work (big 4 accountancy firm in Central London) nobody was any more concerned about Diana's death than any other random person having died in a car accident. Sorry to hear the news, sorry to hear two kids had lost their Mum - but it happens every day to someone so no more fuss than for any other death.
60 million people in the UK. A small percentage equals a lot of people and the media love hysteria.0 -
I did see the film and found it an implausible fantasy, perhaps the work of someone with an adgenda.HYUFD said:
As I said if you watched the play King Charles III (or the BBC2 adaptation) you would know what I was talking aboutPeterC said:
That is an extraordinarily bold prediction. Kate will 'force' William? William will 'make' Charles?HYUFD said:
If Charles gets too unpopular Kate will force William to make him abdicate in his favour as you would know if you have seen King Charles IIITheScreamingEagles said:
Assuming Her Majesty and Prince Charles live until the age of the Queen Mother, we'll have around 20 years of Charles as King.Casino_Royale said:
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Charles_III_(play)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04z0n7s0
