Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
7/7 was weird for me.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.
On the morning after Princess Diana's death, my wife and I got up and went off to visit Chartwell, without hearing any news. We were very pleasantly surprised to have the place almost entirely to ourselves. It was only as we were leaving that one of the attendants told us why it was empty.
I remember waking up at around 8am and turning on telly.
Clearly someone important had died but It wasn't immediately obvious who so I thought it was the Queen Mum.
About two minutes later it become obvious...
I woke my wife at 5am to tell her the news , after hearing it on radio 5..The first thing she said whilst half a wake , was do you think the spooks have done it ? She still believes it was more than just an accident.
So does my Mother...
I think it will always be one of the deaths where about half the population believes it was a conspiracy...
It's difficult to see how the high speed crash could have been contrived - unless Henri Paul was in a suicide pact.
There was reports that Henri Paul was in regular contact with secret services.This obviously fueled some conspiracy theories.However as with JFK It was Lee Harvey Oswald and Diana it was a traffic accident .
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care about
Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
7/7 was weird for me.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care about
May and Osborne are each dismal in different ways.
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care about
Yes, it is a tragedy that winning majorities/making net seat gains is viewed as extreme by you Leavers.
Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
7/7 was weird for me.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.
Was in London on 9/11 and one daughter was working with me on work experience and another working in Kensington, whilst there was no direct threat the infrastructure broke downas people paniced and it took hours to get home,
On the morning after Princess Diana's death, my wife and I got up and went off to visit Chartwell, without hearing any news. We were very pleasantly surprised to have the place almost entirely to ourselves. It was only as we were leaving that one of the attendants told us why it was empty.
I remember waking up at around 8am and turning on telly.
Clearly someone important had died but It wasn't immediately obvious who so I thought it was the Queen Mum.
About two minutes later it become obvious...
I woke my wife at 5am to tell her the news , after hearing it on radio 5..The first thing she said whilst half a wake , was do you think the spooks have done it ? She still believes it was more than just an accident.
So does my Mother...
I think it will always be one of the deaths where about half the population believes it was a conspiracy...
It's difficult to see how the high speed crash could have been contrived - unless Henri Paul was in a suicide pact.
I think the idea is that MI5 "clipped" the car (at speed) to send it out of control in the tunnel (didn't they try to bump off someone in Serbia the same way years ago?)
Keith Allen (in the Fayed financed documentary he did a few years ago) claimed the Queen and the Queen Mum were like "gangsters in tiaras" lol!
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
I've been right about Mrs May the moment she walked into Number 10.
unfortunately your extreme position within the tories makes your views agitprop so not taken seriously, youre too interested in settling scores voters dont care about
Yes, it is a tragedy that winning majorities/making net seat gains is viewed as extreme by you Leavers.
what planet are you on ?
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Why? Depends what's been said and done. I'm not a fan of SIr Phillip ( and I happen to think the world benefits from Frank Field being in it ) but at the same time it's not open season on Sir Phillip as if he too does not benefit from equality before the law.
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff
The Conservatives should have won in 2005 and would have done if they hadn't destroyed their reputation post-97 in the Hague/IDS/Howard era. Cameron brought them back from a dire position and there's now a real risk Brexit will drag them back there.
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff
The Conservatives should have won in 2005 and would have done if they hadn't destroyed their reputation post-97 in the Hague/IDS/Howard era. Cameron brought them back from a dire position and there's now a real risk Brexit will drag them back there.
Osborne is a vengeful and unpleasant piece of work. If he and his underlings succeed in scuppering May and Brexit, Labour will win a landslide next time.
But he's not as nasty as TMay who is simply incapable of interacting with people and hasn't the mental agility to cope with being questioned. Labour must be cheering her on in her desire to stay till the next GE.
This probably makes TMay unsuited as PM. I do not understand why it makes her nasty though.
Her condoning of the bullying behaviour of Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill makes her a nasty person.
May's biggest problem before and after she became leader was not having her own elected uber loyal George Osborne. She relied far too heavily on her closest advisers at the Home Office and then in No10 before the GE, and not nearly enough on her own Cabinet colleagues. The friction between Osborne and May while she was at the Home Office could have been avoided had she and her team been seen to be team players rather than team May. Osborne was right to stand up to her and her team back then despite friction it caused, he was doing his job as Cameron's closest Cabinet colleague. May and her team in effect sacked Osborne rather than allowing him the dignity of resigning and then thanking him for his service because he was too good at his job. It still remains May's biggest strategic mistake.
I have never been a fan of May, but I have warmed to her more since her two key advisors have gone post GE. She needs to now assert her authority again within her Cabinet, and she needs to reach out and bring back some of the talented MPs who she ditched in her last reshuffle.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
7/7 was weird for me.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.
My hubby was in the departures lounge at Heathrow waiting to board a flight back to Aberdeen the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway. I had just turned on the TV when the news broke, and then he phoned me to tell me his flight had been delayed totally unaware of what had happened. I had to tell him he was flying nowhere that evening due the IRA putting a hole in the runway.
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff
The Conservatives should have won in 2005 and would have done if they hadn't destroyed their reputation post-97 in the Hague/IDS/Howard era. Cameron brought them back from a dire position and there's now a real risk Brexit will drag them back there.
2005 was a rare example of an election that was good to lose. The Tories would have run straight into the crash and been hammered in 2010.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
Certainly Blair's overcome with emotion glottal stop was enough to make a cat laugh.
On the morning after Princess Diana's death, my wife and I got up and went off to visit Chartwell, without hearing any news. We were very pleasantly surprised to have the place almost entirely to ourselves. It was only as we were leaving that one of the attendants told us why it was empty.
I remember waking up at around 8am and turning on telly.
Clearly someone important had died but It wasn't immediately obvious who so I thought it was the Queen Mum.
About two minutes later it become obvious...
I woke my wife at 5am to tell her the news , after hearing it on radio 5..The first thing she said whilst half a wake , was do you think the spooks have done it ? She still believes it was more than just an accident.
My first thought on hearing the news was that that would be THE NEWS for at least the next two weeks (months), and probably longer...
That's a phenomena that hasn't got any better, I'm afraid.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
Certainly Blair's overcome with emotion glottal stop was enough to make a cat laugh.
Osborne is a vengeful and unpleasant piece of work. If he and his underlings succeed in scuppering May and Brexit, Labour will win a landslide next time.
But he's not as nasty as TMay who is simply incapable of interacting with people and hasn't the mental agility to cope with being questioned. Labour must be cheering her on in her desire to stay till the next GE.
This probably makes TMay unsuited as PM. I do not understand why it makes her nasty though.
Her condoning of the bullying behaviour of Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill makes her a nasty person.
May's biggest problem before and after she became leader was not having her own elected uber loyal George Osborne. She relied far too heavily on her closest advisers at the Home Office and then in No10 before the GE, and not nearly enough on her own Cabinet colleagues. The friction between Osborne and May while she was at the Home Office could have been avoided had she and her team been seen to be team players rather than team May. Osborne was right to stand up to her and her team back then despite friction it caused, he was doing his job as Cameron's closest Cabinet colleague. May and her team in effect sacked Osborne rather than allowing him the dignity of resigning and then thanking him for his service because he was too good at his job. It still remains May's biggest strategic mistake.
I have never been a fan of May, but I have warmed to her more since her two key advisors have gone post GE. She needs to now assert her authority again within her Cabinet, and she needs to reach out and bring back some of the talented MPs who she ditched in her last reshuffle.
I think the cantankerous relationship between May and Osborne goes a long way back and is deeply personal.
Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
7/7 was weird for me.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
If he think he has been libelled shouldn't he have a right to defend his reputation?
Mr. Borough, on 9/11 I was at a 50th birthday dinner. That was an odd atmosphere.
7/7 was weird for me.
I lived and worked in London that time but I was in Madrid that day, I didn't know about it until I got a phone call from my mother, who was near hysterical wanting to know if I was ok.
I sheepishly replied that I was ok and in Madrid, then I got an earful for not telling her I had left the country for a few days.
But the events of 7/7 brought back bad memories for the people of Madrid.
I was stood at a bus stop nearly directly over where the bomb went off. Obviously i sensed nothing until 10 minutes later everything went crazy but it was not until i got towork I had any idea what had happened, the mobile networks were given over to the emergency services and it was difficult to get a land line connection to ring home. I must be lucky I was flying out of Madrid twp hours after the last plane crash there and on a plane home from Strasbourg the night the IRA mortar bombed the runway, Ian Paisley and Hohn Hume were on the same plane and we were left cicling for two hours.
Gosh. I was with mates on a post A Levels lads holiday in Rome. A kind American tour guide in St Peters told us it might be worth checking in. My oldest mate's sister worked in Town at the time so I discreetly tried to find out if she was safe on the parent's grapevine. After about an hour of worry I managed to get word that she was fine. Told my mate who said 'oh yeah, I forgot she was living there now'.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Dianaesque response.
Genuine, but not hysterical, grief - enough to satisfy the demands of decency. Then the long knives...
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The way HMQ is going she might outlive Charles!!!
Imagine it. You wait all those years and years and years for you old Ma to croak it so you can take the throne, and then, right as your time is coming in to view you pop off first!
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
Charlie is certainly not the darling of many of my acquaintance.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
It was only a minority of people who behaved in that manner.
Predominantly gay men and less intelligent women.
But the image of a nation in hysterical mourning was bigged up by the media.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
The way HMQ is going she might outlive Charles!!!
Imagine it. You wait all those years and years and years for you old Ma to croak it so you can take the throne, and then, right as your time is coming in to view you pop off first!
Whatever people think of Osborne as a politician or as a human being, I picked up a copy of the London Evening Standard yesterday on the train and I was impressed by how he has improved it.
Yes, and it is irritating when some complain when the Standard headlines bad news for the Tories, as if Osborne should be running a CCHQ-directed Pravda.
(And fwiw I think Britain would be a better place had Osborne gone into the wallpaper firm rather than politics.)
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.
Mr. Eagles, the thing about 7/7 I remember was a southern twonk journalist claiming one of the nutcases had a broad Yorkshire accent, when he clearly had an ordinary one [for those unaware, broad Yorkshire is bloody indecipherable].
South Yorkshire can be , York seems very mild in comparison.
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
I really hope not because a nine-day shutdown really would boost the republican cause. You'd like to think plans have been updated since the old king died. Black armbands should cover most sporting events.
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.
I think Queenie is respected rather than loved. Not the same thing when it comes to outpourings of grief even for gays and unintelligent women (?).
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.
Just imagine if it happens during the 2020/21 and 2022/23 seasons.
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
That Digital Spy thread will crash the internet.
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
I know I shouldn't look forward to someone dying, but I do love those arguments about fixture congestion. Those killjoys at the EFL have brought forward the Barnsley v Derby EFL cup tie to avoid problems after Christmas.
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.
I think Queenie is respected rather than loved. Not the same thing when it comes to outpourings of grief.
Also it won't be a shock in the way Diana was. It will be old lady who has been monarch for pretty much everybodies life has passed away.
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
I really hope not because a nine-day shutdown really would boost the republican cause. You'd like to think plans have been updated since the old king died. Black armbands should cover most sporting events.
As I understand it, life as we know it will stop for about nine days when QE2 snuffs it. Could cause some serious fixture congestion in the football if it happens at an unfortunate time.
I really hope not because a nine-day shutdown really would boost the republican cause. You'd like to think plans have been updated since the old king died. Black armbands should cover most sporting events.
'London Bridge is down': the secret plan for the days after the Queen’s death
She is venerated around the world. She has outlasted 12 US presidents. She stands for stability and order. But her kingdom is in turmoil, and her subjects are in denial that her reign will ever end. That’s why the palace has a plan.
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
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The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
Alexis Sanchez had informed the people closest to himself that the move to Manchester was done and he was off.
Awkward...
That's nearly as bad as Peter Odemwingie on transfer deadline day, though Riyad Mahrez today was pretty funny.
Nothing can top odemwongie incident. Although the west ham player who passed a medical with another club yesterday without his club giving permission or actually wanting to sell him does come close.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
There will be bulletins from the palace – not many, but enough. “The Queen is suffering from great physical prostration, accompanied by symptoms which cause much anxiety,” announced Sir James Reid, Queen Victoria’s physician, two days before her death in 1901.
“The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close,” was the final notice issued by George V’s doctor, Lord Dawson, at 9.30pm on the night of 20 January 1936. Not long afterwards, Dawson injected the king with 750mg of morphine and a gram of cocaine – enough to kill him twice over – in order to ease the monarch’s suffering, and to have him expire in time for the printing presses of the Times, which rolled at midnight.
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?
It'll be like the Martin Shkreli jury selection all over again.
My abiding memory of the aftermath of Diana's death was that the Beeb postponed the very first episode of "Full Circle with Michael Palin", the one wot he travels round the Pacific Rim.
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?
There will be bulletins from the palace – not many, but enough. “The Queen is suffering from great physical prostration, accompanied by symptoms which cause much anxiety,” announced Sir James Reid, Queen Victoria’s physician, two days before her death in 1901.
“The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close,” was the final notice issued by George V’s doctor, Lord Dawson, at 9.30pm on the night of 20 January 1936. Not long afterwards, Dawson injected the king with 750mg of morphine and a gram of cocaine – enough to kill him twice over – in order to ease the monarch’s suffering, and to have him expire in time for the printing presses of the Times, which rolled at midnight.
Scott's last expedition had literally pounds of cocaine with it, as local anaesthetic for snow blindness, and we know from a diary entry a couple of days before Oates' death that they had plenty of morphine too. It has always struck me as odd that they didn't take advantage of the fact.
My abiding memory of the aftermath of Diana's death was that the Beeb postponed the very first episode of "Full Circle with Michael Palin", the one wot he travels round the Pacific Rim.
Had it been around at the time, that would have caused a complete meltdown on Digital Spy.
Everyone seems to be assuming Northern Ireland would remain with Great Britain in the event of the monarchy being overthrown... the loyalists are loyal to the crown. Maybe we end up with King Charles of Northern Ireland?
Who cares what he thinks. Firstly the Remaniacs and their Brussels masters keep telling us that the negotiations are with the EU as a unified front not with individual countries and secondly the FDP are not going to win in Germany. This is akin to Farage telling us what the UKIP line will be in negotiations when they won the election. More desperation from William it seems.
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?
It'll be like the Martin Shkreli jury selection all over again.
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, I expect it will be very dignified out of sheer respect for her.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I hope not. That episode was sickening and ridiculous.
Everyone seems to be assuming Northern Ireland would remain with Great Britain in the event of the monarchy being overthrown... the loyalists are loyal to the crown. Maybe we end up with King Charles of Northern Ireland?
Bet a section of them would look forward to his son. King Billy has had a fair few murals and such like over there.
Who cares what he thinks. Firstly the Remaniacs and their Brussels masters keep telling us that the negotiations are with the EU as a unified front not with individual countries and secondly the FDP are not going to win in Germany. This is akin to Farage telling us what the UKIP line will be in negotiations when they won the election. More desperation from William it seems.
I'd be hard pressed to tell the differences between any of the German political parties, to be honest, aside from De Linke and AfD.
That tweet could have been written by the EU Commission press release team.
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.
This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.
This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.
There is no chance of the CSU supporting a coalition with the Greens when the AfD are an alternative, especially as the AfD would have a field day in Bavaria so that is a non-starter as without CSU seats and votes Merkel cannot govern. It will be another Grand Coalition
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.
This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.
One day, it will be CDU/CSU/AFD, but Merkel always prefers to tack Left.
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
CDU/CSU + FDP falls short of an overall majority. Germans don't go in for minority governments. The Greens or AFD could make up the numbers. Merkel would not be seen dead with AFD, and the Greens are a leftist force. Given the fragmentation they appear to be condemed to a never-ending grand coalition.
This time it really could be Jamaica. A CDU/Green/FDP government was just established in Schleswig-Holstein.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.
One day, it will be CDU/CSU/AFD, but Merkel always prefers to tack Left.
Once Merkel goes if Edmund Stoiber, the 2002 CDU/CSU candidate for Chancellor, former Bavarian President and current CSU chairman and his allies regain the leadership that is possible. Last year Stoiber said a state election result was "a debacle for Angela Merkel and her refugee policy." 'It was not enough to criticise the AfD's voters, he argued - the CDU had to understand why people were losing faith in its policies. Mr Stoiber called for a limit on the number of people entering Germany."
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, Diana was part Hollywood, part icon, part Princess, Kennedyesque who died at the peak of her youthful beauty.
The Queen dying will be like your Gran dying, just on a national scale and with more pomp and ceremony
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
Meanwhile beyond Germany in New Zealand (which votes the same weekend in its general election) the New Zealand Labor Party are having a Corbyn+ resurgence in the polls. A poll out today gave them a 2% lead over PM Bill English's Nationals 43% to 41% less than a month after new leader Jacinda Ardern took over from Andrew Little. New Zealand First are third on 8% and the Greens on 5%
A month ago the same poll gave the Nationals a 21% lead
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
It's not acceptable to defend yourself if you think you've been libelled? And what the hell has it got to do with the government anyway? You want a police state?
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
Is it possible to lower Sir Philip Green's reputation among right-thinking people?
Dunno, but I'm quite certain that it's not possible to to lower his reputation among right-on thinking people.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, Diana was part Hollywood, part icon, part Princess, Kennedyesque who died at the peak of her youthful beauty.
The Queen dying will be like your Gran dying, just on a national scale and with more pomp and ceremony
You also have to distinguish between media hysteria and the average person.
In the canteen at my work (big 4 accountancy firm in Central London) nobody was any more concerned about Diana's death than any other random person having died in a car accident. Sorry to hear the news, sorry to hear two kids had lost their Mum - but it happens every day to someone so no more fuss than for any other death.
60 million people in the UK. A small percentage equals a lot of people and the media love hysteria.
The only reason I know exactly where we were is because we faced a 8 hour drive to what was then home from Richmond (Yorkshire) after house hunting. Stop 1 was trying to find somewhere to buy a CD to listen to in the hire car we had...
My first task when I discovered when the funeral was was to move our next shopping trip to Calais forward a fortnight...
PS Popbitch has a very good Will Carling Princess Di story...
I found the month following genuinely bewildering. I really did not understand what was going on. I have never felt so completely out of touch in my own country.
Same here, I laughed at the North Koreans when Kim Il-Sung died, then a few years later we were doing the same.
You're not the only one. I still don't understand it.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
I hope it is a very long time away, but it will be interesting to see how the Great British public responds when Her Majesty passes away.
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
No, Diana was part Hollywood, part icon, part Princess, Kennedyesque who died at the peak of her youthful beauty.
The Queen dying will be like your Gran dying, just on a national scale and with more pomp and ceremony
You also have to distinguish between media hysteria and the average person.
In the canteen at my work (big 4 accountancy firm in Central London) nobody was any more concerned about Diana's death than any other random person having died in a car accident. Sorry to hear the news, sorry to hear two kids had lost their Mum - but it happens every day to someone so no more fuss than for any other death.
60 million people in the UK. A small percentage equals a lot of people and the media love hysteria.
Of course it is not the same as a death in the family but nonetheless the poll today confirming the vast majority of those alive at her death remember precisely where they were when they heard she died confirms her death was our Kennedy assassination
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May not repeating their mistakes is somehow a mistake ?
Keith Allen (in the Fayed financed documentary he did a few years ago) claimed the Queen and the Queen Mum were like "gangsters in tiaras" lol!
Sir Philip Green issues legal warning to Frank Field
Will Sir Philip Green and Frank Field MP ever find some common ground? Not likely.
The retail billionaire and former owner of BHS has sent the chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee a strongly worded letter following a radio interview the MP gave discussing the businessman.
Sir Philip tells Mr Field to expect a letter from his lawyers "which you should read very very carefully in order that you clearly understand the content and the seriousness of your actions".
---
The government need to make clear this kind of behavior by Mr Green isn't acceptable.
Cameron should have had a clear victory in 2010 and screwed it up
Hes should have won in 2015 if he had taken Scotland seriously
May screwed up because she ignored core voters like Osborne and Cameron before her
if you could get you head from out of your ass and stop judging everything on your Brexit defeat, you might actually get an electable party
but youd rather witter on about tory guff
He may be in the wrong here, he may not.
they want houses, education and pay rises
I have never been a fan of May, but I have warmed to her more since her two key advisors have gone post GE. She needs to now assert her authority again within her Cabinet, and she needs to reach out and bring back some of the talented MPs who she ditched in her last reshuffle.
And I've been trying for 20 years to understand it, and I still don't get it. It was very tragic but also embarrassingly hysterical and unBritish.
It's not dissimilar to the Zollverein and we all know where that led
I wonder if there'll be a desire to give a Diana style response.
I am far more worried about Charles. Put it this way: I'm a massive monarchist, and he brings out my inner Oliver Cromwell.
I'm not sure that bodes well.
Imagine it. You wait all those years and years and years for you old Ma to croak it so you can take the throne, and then, right as your time is coming in to view you pop off first!
What a pisser!
The Republic of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland here we come.
(Although I'd accept The Commonwealth of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland)
What happens if it happens during a UEFA window/or the business of an international qualifying tournament?
Predominantly gay men and less intelligent women.
But the image of a nation in hysterical mourning was bigged up by the media.
Oops.
(And fwiw I think Britain would be a better place had Osborne gone into the wallpaper firm rather than politics.)
I think any international games would have to be played, but it would be done so in quite a strange atmosphere.
Alexis Sanchez had informed the people closest to himself that the move to Manchester was done and he was off.
Awkward...
Those seasons are already massively messed up.
She is venerated around the world. She has outlasted 12 US presidents. She stands for stability and order. But her kingdom is in turmoil, and her subjects are in denial that her reign will ever end. That’s why the palace has a plan.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge
Oh I forgot - you voted for Corbyn. Yes of course you want a police state.
“The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close,” was the final notice issued by George V’s doctor, Lord Dawson, at 9.30pm on the night of 20 January 1936. Not long afterwards, Dawson injected the king with 750mg of morphine and a gram of cocaine – enough to kill him twice over – in order to ease the monarch’s suffering, and to have him expire in time for the printing presses of the Times, which rolled at midnight.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/martin-shkreli-trial-jurors-wu-tang-clan
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/903329541539713025
Some in the UK Government anticipate that a possible change in Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition partner to the liberal Free Democrats will make the Brexit negotiations easier and "more business-like" than the current Grand Coalition.
That tweet could have been written by the EU Commission press release team.
Incidentally both the FDP and the Greens have explicitly said they support an independent Scotland joining the EU.
Mr Stoiber called for a limit on the number of people entering Germany."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37274222
Mathematician Who Claimed 'P Is Not Equal To NP' Says His Proof Is Wrong
https://m.slashdot.org/story/330687
The Queen dying will be like your Gran dying, just on a national scale and with more pomp and ceremony
A month ago the same poll gave the Nationals a 21% lead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_New_Zealand_general_election,_2017#cite_note-ONCB-31Aug2017-97
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Charles_III_(play)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04z0n7s
In the canteen at my work (big 4 accountancy firm in Central London) nobody was any more concerned about Diana's death than any other random person having died in a car accident. Sorry to hear the news, sorry to hear two kids had lost their Mum - but it happens every day to someone so no more fuss than for any other death.
60 million people in the UK. A small percentage equals a lot of people and the media love hysteria.