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One of the little commented upon factors since GE2017 is that the former Tory golden boy appears to have lost the midas touch. Certainly there has been a big move away from him on the betting markets and he’s now in fourth place.
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They'll be asking Liam Fox to secure Trade Deals next!
Party members are reluctant for May to stand down now – with 71% backing her to stay and 22% saying she should quit.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/22/david-davis-theresa-may-conservative-leadership
I'm sure Davis's henchmen have sober judgment (Mitchell (!?!) - ed.) and Davis himself is unlikely to indulge in rash melodramatic gestures.....
What would happen if Davis' henchmen try to mount a coup/coronation that comes unstuck, leaving May in place? She could hardly leave him in situ, but then again sacking your BREXIT negotiator half-way through his job is far from ideal.....
Have SeanT and Scaramucci ever been seen in the same room?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40735613
https://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2017/07/london-mail-rail-postal-museum/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-40748107
And the more I read about (and hear at work) the cluelessness with which we are approaching Brexit, the greater my level of fury with the Tories for bringing this utter stinking pile of poo down upon us all. This was wholly unnecessary, the country is now bitterly divided, our national reputation is being trashed daily in the eyes of all, and in honesty I was perfectly happy with arrangements as they were. A plague on the Tory right.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eu-trade-idUKKBN1AC0KK
My sense is the EU would be better. But what do others think?
Its time you sucked it up and stopped whining like a child.
Walk down the High Street and decide where you buy your lunch.
The electorate don't tend to like unnecessary elections or a bad loser.
Even when you buy your lunch on the high street there are standards food has to meet, labeling requirements etc.
All these are adopted by many nations, the EU tends to gold.plate them, ms sets some standard independently to protect specific industries, but often that is because the industries themselves are strong lobbyists in Brussels, and there is a degree of protectionism that finds its way into he system there too.
The Reuters article is over simplifying an incredibly complex subject
Food standards are not tariffs
That way madness lies....
While many were concerned about TTIP, I would be surprised if it ever concludes. There simply isn't the will, not in either side, to compromise.
Please be specific without any hyperbole
We should trade freely and let the market find its price. You do understand why Poundland and Harrods both make money don't you? Nobody is forced to shop there.
F1: practice starts in about an hour. In the meantime, my book's out today:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Traitors-Prize-Bloody-Crown-Trilogy-ebook/dp/B073WGRF3W/
On F1, decided to just stick with my bets on No Safety Car and Vettel at 5.2. Tempted by Bottas at 9... but decided against it.
Mostly it's national government. Animal welfare standards are UK based and UK enforced. Food and hygiene standards are based on wider rules, but UK is free to set many of its own very high hurdles on high Street food retailers and restaurants, and does. Your local council is the body which enforces most food regulation.
Otherwise neither would be making money. Or trading.
And nor will there be. Come on Remoaners, destroy us with facts that prove we are all becoming poorer.
You see we don't need to belong to the EU to set trading standards.
You do understand that don't you?
So no evidence at all, just guesses.
You do understand that don't you?
You'll get there in the end
We can be part of the body that sets the standards, or not.
Which would be better for us?
I would like to think you'll get there in the end, but I am not confident...
You stated clearly that we can trade in or out - why on earth would we pay to join?
This is your big chance, after a year of whining, to put it to bed.
Knock yourself out mate.......
It's not about trade standards, Brexit is about political Independence. The right to have a voice in the places where those standards are set, UNECE, Codex, WTO - we are currently bond by the common commercial policy. But Britain is an Innovator, drowned out in the EU by the massive continental conglomerates who don't want always to move forward. Dyson's experience against EU protection for 'old technology' is instructive - fixing the ratings test for vacuum cleaners so the bag is always "empty" was a big deal to the new bag less innovators. This is a common issue, where there are big players close to Brussels, they hold up progress in many cases. This then plays out more widely due to the common commercial policy, silencing Britain where it has most to offer.
This is not complicated, but clearly too much for some...
@realDonaldTrump: 3 Republicans and 48 Democrats let the American people down. As I said from the beginning, let ObamaCare implode, then deal. Watch!
We voted to leave, in the unlikely event of another referendum you need to make the argument to join.
Go on tv and talk about trading standards in the EU, I'm sure 99% of the electorate will get excited and follow you.
As I keep saying, you lost, either suck it up or change direction, it ain't working.
The future of trade is much more based at a global level when talking about NTB issues. WTO,Codex, UNECE, Independent sectoral trade bodies. To influence them, we need to have a free hand.
The USA is a big internal market, larger than the EU, and presently under both republican and democratic control has tended to resist international conformity, because its large enough to do so. Reference to the USA is therefore generally a red herring such discussion.
That's the reasoned debate we have come to expect from the Brexiteers...
"The reason we don't need food trading standards is Leave won the referendum. Neener, neener"
Could you explain membership of trade standards bodies to @freetochoose ?
Use small words. Maybe pictures would help.
@nickeardleybbc: Chancellor says he hopes transition will mean goods continue to flow in "much the same way they do now" in period immediately after Brexit
Taking the issue of domestic law, then the test that Dyson had to face in its home market which tended to show it's competitors in and unfairly positive light would also be gone, and as we would not have to use that test when advertising that product in international markets, we could use a more accurate one. We could then campaign to have that test adopted more widely as others would want to see that transparency. Common commercial policy prevents this.
The heyday for the fetish of Free Trade was in the 19th Century, and then mostly a British one. It existed as a manifestation of British economic and Naval power. Free Trade was just another expression of British Imperialism, as with our Navy we could strangle others trade routes. Even then we set the rules so that within the Empire, native industries were pushed aside by British ones.
Once we are "free", we can either comply with US standards we don't set, or EU standards we don't set, or we don't buy or sell chickens...
"Let them eat Sovereignty..."
For the umpteenth time I invite you to make a positive case for us to rejoin the EU. In the meantime, in the list of priorities that included immigration, sovereignty, cost etc please tell me where food trading standards appeared on the list.
You're not waving you're drowning.
The anticipation of Brexit and the incompetence of the current administration is having an impact. Some things are being priced in, look at the pound.
Uncertainty about the definition of Brexit is doing damage. Everyone hates uncertainty. It's churlish to argue that this is untrue.
But then we get to the impact of Brexit itself. That we simply don't know because it hasn't happened yet.
But given what is currently happening the prognosis is not good.
I think that you have to buy a Henry if you want a UK made vacuum cleaner.
Can we set the standards (Sovereignty) or not?
Do standards drive the cost?
The fact Brexiteers don't understand any of this is why the project is going to be such an epic fail...
I think you're totally obsessed with it, and need to get a grip.
Enjoying waking up to the news that John McCain has got his revenge on Trump two years after the original slur on his war record: always a dish best eaten cold.
You wanting it to be a verdict on Brexit that supports your viewpoint doesn't make it so.
The risk of course is that he wants the job more than anyone else, has managed to get jobs before that he is clearly unsuitable for (arguably all of them), and there remain Tory members who inexplicably think he is going to lead them towards national credibility and success.
His risk is that more of his own colleagues share the former view than the latter.
The catch is that MPs habe a growing list of people they will want to keep away from the members and a shortage of eligible prospects.
But don't mistake that anxiety for the pain of surgery or the consequences of it not being benign.
Fingers crossed. Unfortunately you can't turn back the clock and unfind the lump. We now have to deal with it and work for a good outcome, hard or soft, leave or remain.
Absolutely delighted we're leaving.
I remember a vox pox being conducted by I think Sky somewhere in Wales, were a few young people said the EU had done nothing for them or Wales.
They were stood outside an apprenticeship training centre (which they used) that had been built with EU structural funds.
But, he is independent-minded and does his own thing.
Your arguments and assertions are growing more desperate by the day.
Mr. Royale, interesting. I read the other day that Austria and Slovenia (I think) had won a court case unexpectedly, allowing them to return migrants to the point of origin (namely Italy/Greece).
Germany unilaterally deciding on an EU policy for enabling mass migration does not speak of the EU as a partnership of equals.
Hint - google net contributors.
Brexiteers are worse. They totally overlook that he Westminster/Whitehall system is broken, has been for years and has proven its ability to resist reform. It is an ivory tower unfit to meet the needs of the British people. It has let us down consistently for decades. Yet Brexiteers cast it as a vibrant democracy, Another Eden.
Rock and hard place.