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He said "in some branches of the future leaving will turn out to be a mistake"foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
Not really aligned with your summary0 -
I think IS was yet to be formed in 2004, though of corse Jihadis existed.Charles said:
Is there any evidence?isam said:
Try her for treason then if possCharles said:
Technically you can't under international law. And the law matters.isam said:Emily Thornberry would say we can't make this woman stateless. Any view?
https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/881982805621735426
Story says she left the UK in 2004 to live with her husband who is now dead. She wants to return but if being prevented from doing so by ISIS0 -
Sadly Ilford North is heading to be a Labour safe seat as Ilford South already isSunil_Prasannan said:
Ilford North used to be theHYUFD said:
If the Tories win most seats they should still win both Chingford and Uxbridge though Ilford North and Enfield North are now probably gone to the Tories for good short of a 1983 or 1997 style landslidebrendan16 said:
I think demographics will do it for IDS and Boris and quite a few other Tory MPs in London quite soon - maybe even as soon as 2022.HYUFD said:
If there is one thing guaranteed to increase the majority of IDS it is having to answer the door to a bunch of Corbynistas when you are trying to sunbathe in the garden in the middle of July!RoyalBlue said:One of my lefty friends on Facebook is interested in going to an event called 'Unseat Iain Duncan Smith'. It looks like a fairly well-attended canvassing session.
It's rather disturbing how Labour seem to want to fight a continuous election. It's almost as if the far left doesn't recognise any democratically elected representatives other than its own.
The white middle class Tory demographic is now restricted to a couple of solid wards in north Chingford and Woodford. More and more flats are being built in the south of the seat occupied by private renters which is essentially becoming north Walthamstow. And you saw the landslide Stella Creasy won by there.
I wouldn't be surprised if both look for safer seats quite soon - outside the capital.niceTory end of Ilford
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I'm a Leaver, but I don't think there's any way to drag the multiverse theory into a political post without looking like a twit.williamglenn said:
"In some possible branches of the future leaving will be an error"foxinsoxuk said:FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
What a spineless argument. Cummings, like Gove, overestimates himself to an alarming degree.0 -
In answer to the question, "Is there anything which could now happen (or not happen) which would make you now wish Leave had not won the referendum result?"Charles said:
He said "in some branches of the future leaving will turn out to be a mistake"foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
Not really aligned with your summary
There's a clear implication that he believes we are following one of those 'branches' in which it is a mistake.0 -
You've got yourself to blame by being a member of LCCC.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's fighting talk.Charles said:
That's because you don't understand what I'm saying...TheScreamingEagles said:
You're lucky that I'm not one of PB's snowflakes who gets upset when people call them thick.Charles said:
Sorry, you are right.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yer what?Charles said:
The Starks are Yorkshiremen. Honourable to a fault, but really quite thick at the end of the day.Alanbrooke said:
sheeshCharles said:
I'd have thought the Lannisters would be DUPpersAlanbrooke said:
they've beeen cut out of the programme because of the DUPCharles said:
The reason why it's been so long is that because Winter is Coming they had to wait for grim conditions to start filming.Alanbrooke said:
pah who cares ?isam said:
If there is a group comparable with 1930s Nazis in modern Britain, it is Muslim extremistsIshmael_Z said:The "Brownshirts" comparison is compelling. How easily we forget that 1930s Berlin was plagued by radical Judaists detonating themselves in crowded places with cries of "Jahweh is the greatest".
Game of Thrones is back, the only politics that counts
The Northern Ireland bits were shot last August
it's now called It Aint half hot Mum
Starks obviously - theyre in the North
or possibly Snows - Northern Bastards
The Lannisters live in London
The Lannisters are greedy incestuous bastards who no one like
(Baelish is a Londoner. And Martin borrowed my family's name for part of his backstory - one of his extinct royal families)
I'm sure you want to change the latter part of your second sentence.
For "at the end of the day" please read "all day long"
Edit: and you're not a real Yorkshireman anyway...
The only way to redeem yourself is by doing a George Davis on the Old Trafford pitch.0 -
The change in ethnic mix coupled with the change in housing tenure, plus the view on Brexit from a relatively young and educated population, have wiped out any chances the Tories might have had in the seat.HYUFD said:
Sadly Ilford North is heading to be a Labour safe seat as Ilford South already isSunil_Prasannan said:
Ilford North used to be theHYUFD said:
If the Tories win most seats they should still win both Chingford and Uxbridge though Ilford North and Enfield North are now probably gone to the Tories for good short of a 1983 or 1997 style landslidebrendan16 said:
I think demographics will do it for IDS and Boris and quite a few other Tory MPs in London quite soon - maybe even as soon as 2022.HYUFD said:
If there is one thing guaranteed to increase the majority of IDS it is having to answer the door to a bunch of Corbynistas when you are trying to sunbathe in the garden in the middle of July!RoyalBlue said:One of my lefty friends on Facebook is interested in going to an event called 'Unseat Iain Duncan Smith'. It looks like a fairly well-attended canvassing session.
It's rather disturbing how Labour seem to want to fight a continuous election. It's almost as if the far left doesn't recognise any democratically elected representatives other than its own.
The white middle class Tory demographic is now restricted to a couple of solid wards in north Chingford and Woodford. More and more flats are being built in the south of the seat occupied by private renters which is essentially becoming north Walthamstow. And you saw the landslide Stella Creasy won by there.
I wouldn't be surprised if both look for safer seats quite soon - outside the capital.niceTory end of Ilford0 -
I know. The paper's editor must be crapfoxinsoxuk said:
I think IS was yet to be formed in 2004, though of corse Jihadis existed.Charles said:
Is there any evidence?isam said:
Try her for treason then if possCharles said:
Technically you can't under international law. And the law matters.isam said:Emily Thornberry would say we can't make this woman stateless. Any view?
https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/881982805621735426
Story says she left the UK in 2004 to live with her husband who is now dead. She wants to return but if being prevented from doing so by ISIS0 -
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
He was there when the rot set in though.isam said:At the risk of sounding like I am constantly harking back to leaders of the past, it really was all about Nige
Pre Nige era: 2%, irrelevance
Nige era: Win Euros, 13%, Get ref, win ref
Post Nig era: 2%, probably fold?0 -
So Brexit is like Communism, only a problem because it was never implemented properly?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
He wont be the last one to thrice deny Brexit before the cock crows.0 -
The full context makes it cleR his view is that if the government screws up negotiations it will be a bad outcome.williamglenn said:
In answer to the question, "Is there anything which could now happen (or not happen) which would make you now wish Leave had not won the referendum result?"Charles said:
He said "in some branches of the future leaving will turn out to be a mistake"foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
Not really aligned with your summary
There's a clear implication that he believes we are following one of those 'branches' in which it is a mistake.
Not a profound point, but not worth the weight people are putting on it0 -
Founded 1999 actuallyfoxinsoxuk said:
I think IS was yet to be formed in 2004, though of corse Jihadis existed.Charles said:
Is there any evidence?isam said:
Try her for treason then if possCharles said:
Technically you can't under international law. And the law matters.isam said:Emily Thornberry would say we can't make this woman stateless. Any view?
https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/881982805621735426
Story says she left the UK in 2004 to live with her husband who is now dead. She wants to return but if being prevented from doing so by ISIS0 -
Stop squirming you useless piece of shit. You quoted a lie and have been caught out.foxinsoxuk said:
So Brexit is like Communism, only a problem because it was never implemented properly?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
He wont be the last one to thrice deny Brexit before the cock crows.0 -
Don't be too harsh on yourself.foxinsoxuk said:
So Brexit is like Communism, only a problem because it was never implemented properly?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
before the cock crows.
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It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
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It looks like I have touched a raw nerve.Richard_Tyndall said:
Stop squirming you useless piece of shit. You quoted a lie and have been caught out.foxinsoxuk said:
So Brexit is like Communism, only a problem because it was never implemented properly?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
He wont be the last one to thrice deny Brexit before the cock crows.
Brexit will turn into bitter ashes in your mouth, yet it will somehow turn out to be Remains fault.0 -
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
Though as 2015 proved the Tories can now win an overall majority without winning Ilford NorthIanB2 said:
The change in ethnic mix coupled with the change in housing tenure, plus the view on Brexit from a relatively young and educated population, have wiped out any chances the Tories might have had in the seat.HYUFD said:
Sadly Ilford North is heading to be a Labour safe seat as Ilford South already isSunil_Prasannan said:
Ilford North used to be theHYUFD said:
If the Tories win most seats they should still win both Chingford and Uxbridge though Ilford North and Enfield North are now probably gone to the Tories for good short of a 1983 or 1997 style landslidebrendan16 said:
I think demographics will do it for IDS and Boris and quite a few other Tory MPs in London quite soon - maybe even as soon as 2022.HYUFD said:
If there is one thing guaranteed to increase the majority of IDS it is having to answer the door to a bunch of Corbynistas when you are trying to sunbathe in the garden in the middle of July!RoyalBlue said:One of my lefty friends on Facebook is interested in going to an event called 'Unseat Iain Duncan Smith'. It looks like a fairly well-attended canvassing session.
It's rather disturbing how Labour seem to want to fight a continuous election. It's almost as if the far left doesn't recognise any democratically elected representatives other than its own.
The white middle class Tory demographic is now restricted to a couple of solid wards in north Chingford and Woodford. More and more flats are being built in the south of the seat occupied by private renters which is essentially becoming north Walthamstow. And you saw the landslide Stella Creasy won by there.
I wouldn't be surprised if both look for safer seats quite soon - outside the capital.niceTory end of Ilford0 -
If this Is fine then what does bad look like?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
You used to be quite a thoughtful poster....Richard_Tyndall said:
Stop squirming you useless piece of shit. You quoted a lie and have been caught out.foxinsoxuk said:
So Brexit is like Communism, only a problem because it was never implemented properly?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
He wont be the last one to thrice deny Brexit before the cock crows.0 -
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
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Have a googleCharles said:
Is there any evidence?isam said:
Try her for treason then if possCharles said:
Technically you can't under international law. And the law matters.isam said:Emily Thornberry would say we can't make this woman stateless. Any view?
https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/881982805621735426
Story says she left the UK in 2004 to live with her husband who is now dead. She wants to return but if being prevented from doing so by ISIS0 -
No raw nerves. I just don't get much chance to post at the moment due to work so want to make sure I use the correct amount of scorn for people like you who I consider be a waste of fresh air. As far as both Brexit and the current political situation goes I am extremely happy. Anything which makes life difficult for the party hierarchies is a win as far as I am concerned.foxinsoxuk said:
It looks like I have touched a raw nerve.Richard_Tyndall said:
Stop squirming you useless piece of shit. You quoted a lie and have been caught out.foxinsoxuk said:
So Brexit is like Communism, only a problem because it was never implemented properly?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
He wont be the last one to thrice deny Brexit before the cock crows.
Brexit will turn into bitter ashes in your mouth, yet it will somehow turn ourt to be Remains fault.
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For people like you Danny i still will be. Liars and dissemblers like Foxinsocks just deserve scorn. As I said they are a waste of both bandwidth and fresh air.Danny565 said:
You used to be quite a thoughtful poster....Richard_Tyndall said:
Stop squirming you useless piece of shit. You quoted a lie and have been caught out.foxinsoxuk said:
So Brexit is like Communism, only a problem because it was never implemented properly?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
He wont be the last one to thrice deny Brexit before the cock crows.0 -
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
You're so funny.Richard_Tyndall said:
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
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The Brexit revolution will end like most revolutions, with the leaders fragged by their own troops. I look forward to it.Richard_Tyndall said:
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
Not at all. That has always been my belief. A deal would be better but leavingnwithout a deal holds no fears for me at all.Bromptonaut said:
You're so funny.Richard_Tyndall said:
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
And that is a bad thing how exactly? They are politicians. They deserve all they get.foxinsoxuk said:
The Brexit revolution will end like most revolutions, with the leaders fragged by their own troops. I look forward to it.Richard_Tyndall said:
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
You're so funnyfoxinsoxuk said:
The Brexit revolution will end like most revolutions, with the leaders fragged by their own troops. I look forward to it.Richard_Tyndall said:
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.0 -
Dominic Cummings stuff is always so unreadable, I will never know if he does think leaving the EU was a mistake.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.0 -
You have to wonder about the 38%. Why do they think that?williamglenn said:0 -
A further act of nihilistic deliberate self harm.Richard_Tyndall said:
And that is a bad thing how exactly? They are politicians. They deserve all they get.foxinsoxuk said:
The Brexit revolution will end like most revolutions, with the leaders fragged by their own troops. I look forward to it.Richard_Tyndall said:
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
I am glad I do not live in such a twisted mental world.0 -
Different strokes I suppose. I always find his stuff very clear and understandable. And no, at no time in the article does he say leaving was or is a mistake. He is simply bemoaning the state of both our civil sevice and our politicians who dont understand that the world has changed and are still metaphorically figjting the last war.FF43 said:
Dominic Cummings stuff is always so unreadable, I will never know if he does think leaving the EU was a mistake.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.0 -
If you believe for minute that politicians are anything more than a necessary evil then you are a bigger fool than I took you for. And needless to say that is a difficult thing to achieve.foxinsoxuk said:
A further act of nihilistic deliberate self harm.Richard_Tyndall said:
And that is a bad thing how exactly? They are politicians. They deserve all they get.foxinsoxuk said:
The Brexit revolution will end like most revolutions, with the leaders fragged by their own troops. I look forward to it.Richard_Tyndall said:
The only bad outcome would be staying in the EU so I am unconcerned with whether they succeed or not really. I have a preference of course but don't expect it all to go.my way. Leaving is the basic measure of success. Anything else is a bonus.Bromptonaut said:
Negotiations on programme for a March 19 exit?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
I am glad I do not live in such a twisted mental world.
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Meh, got bored with that train of thought0
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The reason Brexit failed in the past was because of the wreckers and traitors. Brexit will not be secured until the Kulaks are purged. Or something...Richard_Tyndall said:
Different strokes I suppose. I always find his stuff very clear and understandable. And no, at no time in the article does he say leaving was or is a mistake. He is simply bemoaning the state of both our civil sevice and our politivians who dont understand that the world has changed and are still metaphorically figjting the last war.FF43 said:
Dominic Cummings stuff is always so unreadable, I will never know if he does think leaving the EU was a mistake.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.0 -
3M jobs lost, a year-long 10%-of-GDP recession starting in early 2017, planes falling out of the sky, forced repatriation of anyone more tanned than David Dickinson, everyone in the Square Mile moving to Frankfurt, war on the European mainland, Nissan relocating to Portugal/Poland/Guyana/Mars, tumbling house prices, soaring interest rates, punishment budgets, FTSE100 and 250 hammered, universities shutting down, NHS sold to Trump, [cont p94].foxinsoxuk said:
If this Is fine then what does bad look like?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
But nobody's suggesting that will happen, are they? Not now, anyway.0 -
Still dribbling out your fatuous nonsense are you? You really should keep up with your drugs.foxinsoxuk said:
The reason Brexit failed in the past was because of the wreckers and traitors. Brexit will not be secured until the Kulaks are purged. Or something...Richard_Tyndall said:
Different strokes I suppose. I always find his stuff very clear and understandable. And no, at no time in the article does he say leaving was or is a mistake. He is simply bemoaning the state of both our civil sevice and our politivians who dont understand that the world has changed and are still metaphorically figjting the last war.FF43 said:
Dominic Cummings stuff is always so unreadable, I will never know if he does think leaving the EU was a mistake.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.0 -
We were promised that as soon as the ballot boxes closed under Project Fear. But it didn't happen. Now it's delayed until the end of Article 50 when it won't happen either.Drutt said:
3M jobs lost, a year-long 10%-of-GDP recession starting in early 2017, planes falling out of the sky, forced repatriation of anyone more tanned than David Dickinson, everyone in the Square Mile moving to Frankfurt, war on the European mainland, Nissan relocating to Portugal/Poland/Guyana/Mars, tumbling house prices, soaring interest rates, punishment budgets, FTSE100 and 250 hammered, universities shutting down, NHS sold to Trump, [cont p94].foxinsoxuk said:
If this Is fine then what does bad look like?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
It's all going so well, isn't it?Richard_Tyndall said:
Except Farron is being dishonest as usual because Cummings says nothing of the sort. He has written another very good piece explaining how neither the politicians nor the civil service are fit for purpose.foxinsoxuk said:https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/881987771195371520
FWIW, another rat leaves the sinking HMS Brexit.
It should come as no surprise that the Eurofanatics like Farron and his fellow travellers on here have once again been shown to be lying through their back teeth.
But nobody's suggesting that will happen, are they? Not now, anyway.
Personally I'm still holding out for "war on the European mainland" which was one of my main reasons for voting Leave. It'd better come true and I'm not going to be fobbed off with an offer of a poxy free owl this time.0 -
"Only because Cameron didn't trigger A50 immediately", so we're told.GeoffM said:
We were promised that as soon as the ballot boxes closed under Project Fear. But it didn't happen. Now it's delayed until the end of Article 50 when it won't happen either.Drutt said:
3M jobs lost, a year-long 10%-of-GDP recession starting in early 2017, planes falling out of the sky, forced repatriation of anyone more tanned than David Dickinson, everyone in the Square Mile moving to Frankfurt, war on the European mainland, Nissan relocating to Portugal/Poland/Guyana/Mars, tumbling house prices, soaring interest rates, punishment budgets, FTSE100 and 250 hammered, universities shutting down, NHS sold to Trump, [cont p94].foxinsoxuk said:
If this Is fine then what does bad look like?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
But nobody's suggesting that will happen, are they? Not now, anyway.
Personally I'm still holding out for "war on the European mainland" which was one of my main reasons for voting Leave. It'd better come true and I'm not going to be fobbed off with an offer of a poxy free owl this time.
Or, to put it another way, Remain Campaign Lies 'Only Lies Because They Were Based On Other Remain Campaign Lies', Says Lying Remain Campaign.0 -
That pretty much sums it up exactly, yes!Drutt said:
"Only because Cameron didn't trigger A50 immediately", so we're told.GeoffM said:
We were promised that as soon as the ballot boxes closed under Project Fear. But it didn't happen. Now it's delayed until the end of Article 50 when it won't happen either.Drutt said:
3M jobs lost, a year-long 10%-of-GDP recession starting in early 2017, planes falling out of the sky, forced repatriation of anyone more tanned than David Dickinson, everyone in the Square Mile moving to Frankfurt, war on the European mainland, Nissan relocating to Portugal/Poland/Guyana/Mars, tumbling house prices, soaring interest rates, punishment budgets, FTSE100 and 250 hammered, universities shutting down, NHS sold to Trump, [cont p94].foxinsoxuk said:
If this Is fine then what does bad look like?Richard_Tyndall said:
Actually it's all going fine. Unless of course you are a committed party moderate for any of the parties in which case it is going quire badly. Which I consider be a good result.Bromptonaut said:
But nobody's suggesting that will happen, are they? Not now, anyway.
Personally I'm still holding out for "war on the European mainland" which was one of my main reasons for voting Leave. It'd better come true and I'm not going to be fobbed off with an offer of a poxy free owl this time.
Or, to put it another way, Remain Campaign Lies 'Only Lies Because They Were Based On Other Remain Campaign Lies', Says Lying Remain Campaign.0 -
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Interesting discussion on next years London borough elections. Havering is of course unique in that it has 22 Residents association councillors - mostly in the better off areas like Upminster. Labour only has two and UKIP six at present - UKIP mostly in the most deprived area of Harold Hill but also oddly in Emerson park which is the wealthiest.
The residents associations are the reason the council is no overall control - one section of them run the council jointly with the Tories.
It's the only London borough that has a strong base of independent councillors - and almost all the wards they hold would vote solidly Tory otherwise.0 -
Probably because they realise that the best deal is no deal, and that is what is likely to happen.FF43 said:
You have to wonder about the 38%. Why do they think that?williamglenn said:0 -
I took 5/1 Whittle and 11/2 Waters straight after Farage said he was out. Some bookies had Farage priced up at 1/3 still! I can't see him going back with the party in such a mess. No support, and no reason to exist. It's an empty husk waiting to be filled by some other movement. It's anti-immigrant stance will haunt it in a few years time when the nutjobs take control of it.0
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