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TheScreamingEagles said:

Saltire said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

Changes since April

That leaves 12 for others which seems rather unlikely

Actually it is likely.

5% for SNP/PC and 5% for Greens is plausible, the rest could be 1% others and roundings.

Greens on 5? They've been squeezed a lot by Labour.

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Is it just me or does the SAS helicopter look like they bought AirWolf? Do they have a KnightRider as their car?

I'm not sure that is an SAS helicopter.

It looks a lot like one of the Met copters.

The Verified journo said it was the SAS arriving. Do they not have their own transportation?

To be honest I saw another verified journo say he saw the SAS deployed to Manchester, but turned to be the NW counter terrorist police.

It is just so happens they wear the apparel of soldiers.

Years ago, one of my army buddies did an analysis saying where the SAS had been deployed in one year according to the media.

He said based on the media reports, the SAS was a division plus sized force (20,000 soliders) not a regiment of a couple of thousand troops.

Fair enough....but doesn't the MET police helicopters normally have MET Police written on the side in bright yellow letters? It sure looks a lot like the helicopter that SAS have known to have had brought for them.

Cyan said:

isam said:

Cyan said:

isam said:

RobD said:

MaxPB said:

TOPPING said:

SeanT said:

TOPPING said:

Not to trivialise all this but when I went to see Depeche Mode at the Bridgehouse in Canning Town many moons ago, it was at least as risky as some of the stuff that has happened this evening.

Listen to yourself. "Depeche Mode as dangerous as ISIS"

Do yourself a favour and go to sleep you doddery, incontinent old cretin.

Stop panicking Sean - this is the world we live in and you need to understand what is happening.

What's happening is that there is a fifth column of Islamists living in the UK and you are happy to turn a blind eye so as not to cause community tension or whatever.

Fifth columnists -a great description of what they are.

Copyright N Farage after Charlie Hebdo

.com/world/2015/jan/08/paris-attack-nigel-farage-gross-policy-multiculturalism">meant "people from other cultures (who) remain within those cultures and (do) not integrate fully within our communities [sic]". So the chap I met who works as a driving instructor and who is a Hindu and who didn't know when Good Friday was (but asked me and we talked about different religious holidays) must ipso facto be a "fifth columnist"? Fuck you, Farage!

Yeah when Farage referenced Rotherham sex attacks and specifically mentioned Islam he was talking about the figment of your imagination that is a Hindu driving instructor

Do you think I would make things up to support my argument? He's a real guy and why you think a Hindu driving instructor should be an imaginary entity I really don't know. Did you click on the link? Nigel Farage used "fifth column" the way I said he did, unless the Guardian badly misrepresented him by using their ellipsis to omit words showing otherwise. Also this was in response to Charlie Hebdo, not Rotherham. Perhaps Farage uses the phrase whenever he feels like it because he thinks it sounds good and makes him sound hard. Perhaps one minute his target is Moooslims and the next it's foreigners and the next it's non-whites or "multiculturalism". Re-read my post and you'll find out about a sensible way to use the term "fifth column", without reference to the babblings of some forgettable early 21st century British politician.

Yeah I think you're making it up.

I read the link and Farage specifically mentions Islam and the Rotherham rapists. He is blaming multiculturalism for allowing people to turn a blind eye

camel said:

MaxPB said:

camel said:

MaxPB said:

TOPPING said:

FattyBolger said:

TOPPING said:

SeanT said:

TOPPING said:

Not to trivialise all this but when I went to see Depeche Mode at the Bridgehouse in Canning Town many moons ago, it was at least as risky as some of the stuff that has happened this evening.

Listen to yourself. "Depeche Mode as dangerous as ISIS"

Do yourself a favour and go to sleep you doddery, incontinent old cretin.

Stop panicking Sean - this is the world we live in and you need to understand what is happening.

Yes, people re killing us for who we are and how we live. And you are accepting that as "the world we live in". Passive, docile, accepting. FFS

You utter, utter dickhead. While you work out whether I am or am not accepting it, please tell me what your master plan is to stop it all, short of you locking yourself up in your bedroom with Teddy?

End all Islamic immigration tomorrow. Close all the mosques, ban the burka, ban halal meat production and importation, ban all Muslim schools private and state, cut all aid funding to Islamic countries that fund hate preachers. That's a start.

Of all the potential counter-terrorism strategies that may be discussed at tomorrows COBRA meeting, I'm guessing banning the importation of halal meat will not make the top five.

I'd be surprised if it did! Halal meat is not a security threat, banning it would just be a tool used to reverse Islamic immigration. Those who are not comfortable eating non-halal will eventually have to leave, those who are probably aren't going to bomb, shoot or stab us.

Those who are not comfortable eating non-halal will eventually have to leave? That's not far removed from "rounding them up and sending them home". Wow!

Well, yes. That's sort of the point, just without having to round them up.

spire2 said:

To be fair diane abott is useless. How about clive lewis?

KentRising said:

chloe said:

Floater said:

Pulpstar said:

I'll say it. Diane Abbott could be Home sec in 6 days.

No fucking way

What a terrible prospect that would be

To be fearful of the prospect it to be racist, according to Paul Mason. Muppet.

Yes, I like him. MUCH better than Abbott.

Floater said:

TOPPING said:

SeanT said:

TOPPING said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

Changes since April

Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.

Don't worry it's all over

Until I hear DimbleBore depressingly say the BBC Exit Poll predicts a Tory majority of 100...I am shitting it. I like Canada a lot....to visit...

The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.

Thank god you don't actually live here.

Appeaser.

That's it, Sean, let it out.

Asking you same as Fatty: what would you do?

What do you think we should do?

OK I'll go first ahead of our keyboard warrior super army soldier types.

We need parallel approaches. At the same time as winning on ideas, proving, showing that our values are such that they shouldn't be subject to challenge by any other ideology, I would come down like a fucking hammer on those who are planning harm or sympathise with those who mean us harm. But this latter I think we are doing and the very fact that these people are in this country, in the West, means that we are probably winning on the former also.

The fact is, that these days there is very little we can do about young people who have been radicalised to the point whereby instead of getting their ears pierced, they are prepared to attack people on the street.

How did we beat PIRA? We talked, we won militarily and eventually they caved. But there are still active dissident republicans as we have seen from the news this weekend.

How about you?

spire2 said:

To be fair diane abott is useless. How about clive lewis?

KentRising said:

chloe said:

Floater said:

Pulpstar said:

I'll say it. Diane Abbott could be Home sec in 6 days.

No fucking way

What a terrible prospect that would be

To be fearful of the prospect it to be racist, according to Paul Mason. Muppet.

But, thinking about it, Ms Abbott looks as if she might be partial to the odd biscuit or two. She and Jezza could invite Isis around for a nice chat with tea and biscuits, perhaps even some nice cake. Couple of verses of kumbaya. Terrorism - sorted. Job done.

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Is it just me or does the SAS helicopter look like they bought AirWolf? Do they have a KnightRider as their car?

I'm not sure that is an SAS helicopter.

It looks a lot like one of the Met copters.

The Verified journo said it was the SAS arriving. Do they not have their own transportation?

To be honest I saw another verified journo say he saw the SAS deployed to Manchester, but turned to be the NW counter terrorist police.

It is just so happens they wear the apparel of soldiers.

Years ago, one of my army buddies did an analysis saying where the SAS had been deployed in one year according to the media.

He said based on the media reports, the SAS was a division plus sized force (20,000 soliders) not a regiment of a couple of thousand troops.

Fair enough....but doesn't the MET police helicopters normally have MET Police written on the side in bright yellow letters? It sure looks a lot like the helicopter that SAS have known to have had brought for them.

Only the military use that particular helicopter the Dauphin. But it won't be confirmed or denied anyway if the SAS are on the ground.

FrancisUrquhart said:

twitter.com/215_sandeep/status/871152825903964160

i hope they catch at least one alive

SeanT said:

Chameleon said:

This is all ongoing, so with the cordon being at the very least 1km wide I suspect that someone has slipped away, or will slip away in the coming hours.

That's my guess. Reports of two attackers killed. But lots of police activity ongoing?

Sounds like it was three killers, and one is at large.....

They thought the Westminster bridge guy had accomplices at first, didn't they? But, in the end, it turned out he was acting alone.

jonny83 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Is it just me or does the SAS helicopter look like they bought AirWolf? Do they have a KnightRider as their car?

I'm not sure that is an SAS helicopter.

It looks a lot like one of the Met copters.

The Verified journo said it was the SAS arriving. Do they not have their own transportation?

To be honest I saw another verified journo say he saw the SAS deployed to Manchester, but turned to be the NW counter terrorist police.

It is just so happens they wear the apparel of soldiers.

Years ago, one of my army buddies did an analysis saying where the SAS had been deployed in one year according to the media.

He said based on the media reports, the SAS was a division plus sized force (20,000 soliders) not a regiment of a couple of thousand troops.

Fair enough....but doesn't the MET police helicopters normally have MET Police written on the side in bright yellow letters? It sure looks a lot like the helicopter that SAS have known to have had brought for them.

Only the military use that particular helicopter the Dauphin. But it won't be confirmed or denied anyway if the SAS are on the ground.

Bit disappointing they don't have one of those transformer-esque American copters.

TOPPING said:

Floater said:

TOPPING said:

SeanT said:

TOPPING said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

Changes since April

Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.

Don't worry it's all over

Until I hear DimbleBore depressingly say the BBC Exit Poll predicts a Tory majority of 100...I am shitting it. I like Canada a lot....to visit...

The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.

Thank god you don't actually live here.

Appeaser.

That's it, Sean, let it out.

Asking you same as Fatty: what would you do?

What do you think we should do?

OK I'll go first ahead of our keyboard warrior super army soldier types.

We need parallel approaches. At the same time as winning on ideas, proving, showing that our values are such that they shouldn't be subject to challenge by any other ideology, I would come down like a fucking hammer on those who are planning harm or sympathise with those who mean us harm. But this latter I think we are doing and the very fact that these people are in this country, in the West, means that we are probably winning on the former also.

The fact is, that these days there is very little we can do about young people who have been radicalised to the point whereby instead of getting their ears pierced, they are prepared to attack people on the street.

How did we beat PIRA? We talked, we won militarily and eventually they caved. But there are still active dissident republicans as we have seen from the news this weekend.

How about you?

Sit down and talk to ISIS? Deluded.

Interesting:

https://twitter.com/journodave/status/871157916866314240

Have the cousins got their act together - or are we delaying telling them stuff?

nunu said:

SeanT said:

The chaos of this means it is inevitably going to impact the election.

I swear down if 36% of the country vote for the "hamas are my friends" and "every defeat for the British state is a victory for us" trio of corbyn, abbott and McDonnell after this, I despair.

Britain will be more fucked then I thought.

Phoning today I got a few Tory and Labour waverers saying they were disappointed with May over social care and liked Corbyn on inequality and the NHS but preferred May to Corbyn on national security and Brexit and had not yet decided which way they were going, in the ballot box I think the question of the precise level of cap for social care costs or having a pacifist and former ally of Hamas and friend of the IRA in charge of national security with this level of terrorist threat will focus a few minds

CarlottaVance said:

Interesting:

https://twitter.com/journodave/status/871157916866314240

Have the cousins got their act together - or are we delaying telling them stuff?

I'd be surprised if we were telling them anything, given that we cut them off about the Manc attack after the first 5 or so leaks.

Chameleon said:

CarlottaVance said:

Interesting:

https://twitter.com/journodave/status/871157916866314240

Have the cousins got their act together - or are we delaying telling them stuff?

I'd be surprised if we were telling them anything, given that we cut them off about the Manc attack after the first 5 or so leaks.

You can imagine the US media are salivating at the thought of releasing the names of the attackers.

RobD said:

Chameleon said:

CarlottaVance said:

Interesting:

https://twitter.com/journodave/status/871157916866314240

Have the cousins got their act together - or are we delaying telling them stuff?

I'd be surprised if we were telling them anything, given that we cut them off about the Manc attack after the first 5 or so leaks.

You can imagine the US media are salivating at the thought of releasing the names of the attackers.

CH4 less so ;-)

Is YouGov a proper poll or a "model"?

MaxPB said:

TOPPING said:

Floater said:

TOPPING said:

SeanT said:

TOPPING said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

Changes since April

Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.

Don't worry it's all over

Until I hear DimbleBore depressingly say the BBC Exit Poll predicts a Tory majority of 100...I am shitting it. I like Canada a lot....to visit...

The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.

Thank god you don't actually live here.

Appeaser.

That's it, Sean, let it out.

Asking you same as Fatty: what would you do?

What do you think we should do?

OK I'll go first ahead of our keyboard warrior super army soldier types.

We need parallel approaches. At the same time as winning on ideas, proving, showing that our values are such that they shouldn't be subject to challenge by any other ideology, I would come down like a fucking hammer on those who are planning harm or sympathise with those who mean us harm. But this latter I think we are doing and the very fact that these people are in this country, in the West, means that we are probably winning on the former also.

The fact is, that these days there is very little we can do about young people who have been radicalised to the point whereby instead of getting their ears pierced, they are prepared to attack people on the street.

How did we beat PIRA? We talked, we won militarily and eventually they caved. But there are still active dissident republicans as we have seen from the news this weekend.

How about you?

Sit down and talk to ISIS? Deluded.

First, did I say that anywhere?

Second, as you mention it, you are assuming ISIS is not a rational actor. But they are. They want something. What they want we may not be able to move towards but they are an organisation with aims, short of overthrowing western democracy. You would be surprised at the dialogue ongoing the various bitter conflicts worldwide, in particular in the middle east, these past few decades.

Now, it might be that as I think you are saying, ISIS is not negotiateable with. In which case we have to deal with its adherents in the UK, as per my thoughts above.

What is your plan?

SeanT said:

Chameleon said:

This is all ongoing, so with the cordon being at the very least 1km wide I suspect that someone has slipped away, or will slip away in the coming hours.

That's my guess. Reports of two attackers killed. But lots of police activity ongoing?

Sounds like it was three killers, and one is at large.....

reports of up to 5 with 1 or 2 already shot.

RobD said:

BBC again implying the government controls the threat level.

There did a "fact check" where the said the same about the number of homes built since 2000....except they use the figures for all homes built.

Who will check the fact checkers?

ThreeQuidder said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

https://twitter.com/215_sandeep/status/871152825903964160

That's Bank station, looking from the southbound platform to the northbound.

Both it and London Bridge have right-hand running for the Northern Line

Perhaps you don't need to shut existing mosques, just ban the opening of more?

Bit like grammar schools.

RobD said:

BBC again implying the government controls the threat level.

I actually can't believe the correspondent said that May and the Home Secretary will sit down and decide on this....how much are we f##king paying these morons?

On a prosaic point If im going to be watching live news for the next few hours should i stick with bbc or watch sky?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Oops Trump's tweet may have just made a huge mistake on twitter because US government lawyers have been arguing in the appellate courts that it is NOT a ban.

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/871160314070523905
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871143765473406976

Maybe his captitalisation was deliberate?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Oops Trump's tweet may have just made a huge mistake on twitter because US government lawyers have been arguing in the appellate courts that it is NOT a ban.

I am sure they will say as before it is the media term / misrepresentation not the government term ;-)

spire2 said:

On a prosaic point If im going to be watching live news for the next few hours should i stick with bbc or watch sky?

Beeb is calmer, Sky are hysterical and often inaccurate in unfolding situations. During Manchester, they were literally trawling Twitter and lifting videos shot by kids on mobiles.

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Oops Trump's tweet may have just made a huge mistake on twitter because US government lawyers have been arguing in the appellate courts that it is NOT a ban.

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/871160314070523905
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871143765473406976

Maybe his captitalisation was deliberate?

Well in one the court cases one of the judges cited one of Trump's tweets, so Trump should know better.

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Oops Trump's tweet may have just made a huge mistake on twitter because US government lawyers have been arguing in the appellate courts that it is NOT a ban.

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/871160314070523905
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871143765473406976

Maybe his captitalisation was deliberate?

Well in one the court cases one of the judges cited one of Trump's tweets.

Yeah, but if it is colloquially known as the "Travel Ban", that might be a defence? Of course, IANAL.

The BBC: Borough Market is a market and London Bridge station is a station where people board trains to go home.

Phew. Glad we cleared that up.

BBC idiot on the spot, "Man was of Asian or Mediterranean colouring"....

The Sun reporting 3 explosions outside their London Bridge office in the past few minutes.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3717442/london-bridge-incident-live-updates/

EDIT: Now confirmed as controlled explosions.

FrancisUrquhart said:

BBC idiot on the spot, "Man was of Asian or Mediterranean colouring"....

As someone said earlier, Italians are notoriously shit drivers.....

Floater said:

SeanT said:

Chameleon said:

This is all ongoing, so with the cordon being at the very least 1km wide I suspect that someone has slipped away, or will slip away in the coming hours.

That's my guess. Reports of two attackers killed. But lots of police activity ongoing?

Sounds like it was three killers, and one is at large.....

reports of up to 5 with 1 or 2 already shot.

Along with a bystander in the pub, sadly.

HYUFD said:

KentRising said:

Perhaps you don't need to shut existing mosques, just ban the opening of more?

Bit like grammar schools.

Yes because grammars producing Oxbridge graduates is just the same as extremist mosques producing terrorists

I was being tongue in cheek. I'm an old grammar school boy myself.

HYUFD said:

KentRising said:

Perhaps you don't need to shut existing mosques, just ban the opening of more?

Bit like grammar schools.

Yes because grammars producing Oxbridge graduates is just the same as extremist mosques producing terrorists

I think it was (quite a good) political joke you missed.

SeanT said:

https://twitter.com/jcoxwriter/status/871160647698010113

Controlled explosions, I wager. People will have been leaving stuff all over the place in fleeing.

surbiton said:

Floater said:

TOPPING said:

Floater said:

TOPPING said:

SeanT said:

TOPPING said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

Changes since April

Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.

Don't worry it's all over

Until I hear DimbleBore depressingly say the BBC Exit Poll predicts a Tory majority of 100...I am shitting it. I like Canada a lot....to visit...

The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.

Thank god you don't actually live here.

Appeaser.

That's it, Sean, let it out.

Asking you same as Fatty: what would you do?

What do you think we should do?

OK I'll go first ahead of our keyboard warrior super army soldier types.

We need parallel approaches. At the same time as winning on ideas, proving, showing that our values are such that they shouldn't be subject to challenge by any other ideology, I would come down like a fucking hammer on those who are planning harm or sympathise with those who mean us harm. But this latter I think we are doing and the very fact that these people are in this country, in the West, means that we are probably winning on the former also.

The fact is, that these days there is very little we can do about young people who have been radicalised to the point whereby instead of getting their ears pierced, they are prepared to attack people on the street.

How did we beat PIRA? We talked, we won militarily and eventually they caved. But there are still active dissident republicans as we have seen from the news this weekend.

How about you?

Its not easy

Stop kowtowing to islamists - we self censor right now - fuck em

Stop trying to shut down debate on the darker side of Islamic beliefs.

Exclude people from this country if they went abroad to fight jihad or have preached hate.

Cut down muslim immigration.

What about selling arms worth billions of pounds to Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia which funds and arms terrorist organisations ? You left this out.

Good point. Disappointing to see Trump there a few days ago.

So the cliffs seems to be.

White van ran over a load of people. 3 men jumped out, hacked at the injured and then attacked random people on the street and also raiding restaurants / bars and attacking people.

BBC: photo shows shot terrorist lying on ground outside the Wheatsheaf pub with what looks like canisters strapped to his chest.

Fuck me! My first date staple is a beer in The Wheatsheaf then on to Brindisa... all the women who knocked me back recently were right to do so

HYUFD said:

Saudi is bombing ISIS now and they execute terrorists

Maybe we should get on that? Bring back the offence of treason and hanging for it.

surbiton said:

Floater said:

TOPPING said:

Floater said:

TOPPING said:

SeanT said:

TOPPING said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

Changes since April

Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.

Don't worry it's all over

Until I hear DimbleBore depressingly say the BBC Exit Poll predicts a Tory majority of 100...I am shitting it. I like Canada a lot....to visit...

The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.

Thank god you don't actually live here.

Appeaser.

That's it, Sean, let it out.

Asking you same as Fatty: what would you do?

What do you think we should do?

OK I'll go first ahead of our keyboard warrior super army soldier types.

We need parallel approaches. At the same time as winning on ideas, proving, showing that our values are such that they shouldn't be subject to challenge by any other ideology, I would come dmer also.

The fact is, that these days there is very little we can do about young people who have been radicalised to the point whereby instead of getting their ears pierced, they are prepared to attack people on the street.

How did we beat PIRA? We talked, we won militarily and eventually they caved. But there are still active dissident republicans as we have seen from the news this weekend.

How about you?

Its not easy

For starters shut down mosques that allow hate speech

Come down hard on hate preachers and shut down schools who spout islamist shit.

lengthy prison terms for those who spread hate

Stop kowtowing to islamists - we self censor right now - fuck em

Stop trying to shut down debate on the darker side of Islamic beliefs.

Exclude people from this country if they went abroad to fight jihad or have preached hate.

Cut down muslim immigration.

What about selling arms worth billions of pounds to Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia which funds and arms terrorist organisations ? You left this out.

I am no fan of Saudi - perhaps Jezza could stop being a mouth piece for Press tv too

KentRising said:

BBC: photo shows shot terrorist lying on ground outside the Wheatsheaf pub with what looks like canisters strapped to his chest.

He doesn't look very Italian.

Fwiw know the area very well. Van reportedly crashed into Nancy steps, which are South West side of London bridge, steps lead down to borough market which is about 50m away. Wheatsheaf pub is about 300m away through the market.