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  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,132
    Quincel said:

    Note that if Camden doesn't allow the appeal the next step is the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for public land, not POPLA as below for private land. Agree that your case sounds solid though, hopefully the Council will see sense.
    It is probably worth an email to the relevant cabinet member there, who I suspect is phil.jones@camden.gov.uk. A nice friendly letter explaining the story with just a passing mention that you hope he can help you without having to trouble the Camden Journal with the story. He won't be able to do anything about the decision himself, but the email will work its way through the system and you'll get a quicker resolution.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    IanB2 said:

    Students will still be in Uni on June 8
    Aberystwyth students vacate their halls of residence by Saturday 3rd June
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited April 2017
    marke09 said:

    Aberystwyth students vacate their halls of residence by Saturday 3rd June
    PB's depth of local knowledge is ever-admirable... Is somebody going to have to compile a "exam and halls of residence deadlines per marginal-seat university" list??
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    marke09 said:

    Aberystwyth students vacate their halls of residence by Saturday 3rd June
    Memories of Aber halls of residence. 20 years ago I was just completing my first year of drinking studying there!
  • MaxPB said:

    Internal dissent. Lots of grumbling this morning from people I've campaigned with in the past, I imagine the grumbling among Tory MPs in marginals vs Lib Dems is even worse.
    Why - foreign aid endorsement will help in those marginals
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,346
    edited April 2017

    The Scottish Maiden and Halifax Gibbet predated Dr Guillotin*, but it's probably best not to become too familiar with them!

    * Who actually opposed capital punishment and didn't invent the machine anyway - it was designed by Antoine Louis and originally called a louisette - but became associated with it due to a popular joke he made during a speech in favour of a more humane method of execution, which he saw as a stepping stone to the abolition of the punishment altogether. I wasn't aware of this til I checked Wikipedia five minutes ago...
    I'd forgotten about the Maiden, gazed at with fascination on many a rainy afternoon in my childhood. Of course in the current climate Scottish inventions may also be seen as dangerously foreign.

    I recall that the Maiden could be flat packed and transported to different cities to fulfill its purpose. An early Scandinavian influence perhaps?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,544
    edited April 2017
    IanB2 said:

    Students will still be in Uni on June 8
    The timing is rather advantagous for the tories. Limited time to get students organized and registered, between now and June is exams and then actual GE when many just started hols or just about ie lots of things other than GE on their minds.
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    The Tories will increase VAT. They always do.

    Regressive taxation - their favourite.
    Yeah, but some did the last Labour government.
  • YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    edited April 2017
    marke09,

    Good spot. Aber term ends on 03/06/2107.

    Then, I expect the LibDems to be in some trouble & Ceredigion will be close.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,601
    IanB2 said:

    To establish that they would have to have a photo of your car parked without a ticket, assuming it was pay-and-display rather than on exit.
    It's a park where there are barriers, but they are not operational (and haven't for years), so it is pay and display, but the shot is of entering and exiting via the barriers. The pay and display requires you to input you licence plate, so I'm surprised they say (online) that I paid nothing.

    Sounds like I should appeal to the company on the basis that I did pay for 2 hours, and have a grace period of 10 minutes.

    Thanks all.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,132
    edited April 2017
    kle4 said:

    It's a park where there are barriers, but they are not operational (and haven't for years), so it is pay and display, but the shot is of entering and exiting via the barriers. The pay and display requires you to input you licence plate, so I'm surprised they say (online) that I paid nothing.

    Sounds like I should appeal to the company on the basis that I did pay for 2 hours, and have a grace period of 10 minutes.

    Thanks all.
    Yes, just say that you purchased a ticket to park and displayed it clearly in your windscreen, and ask them to send you any evidence they have to the contrary. They can't do you for two minutes at the barriers, anyway, you could easily have been driving round the car park, picking up a passenger, stopping briefly to listen to something on the radio or check a map, and have left the parking space two minutes before you reached the exit .
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,485
    Best of luck to Mr. Observer and Mr. kle4.

  • kle4 said:

    Ticket given by letter. It was parking eye, appears to have been done on the basis of camera shots of entering and leaving, but having now checking online it seems they are saying I did not pay for any duration at all (this is not mentioned in the letter). I would dispute that, but unfortunately no longer have my ticket.
    I've got a few urgent errands to do this morning/afternoon, but I'll send you a vanilla message this evening, on how to deal with this.

    Parking Eye are well known charlatans.
  • ab195ab195 Posts: 477
    kle4 said:

    Ticket given by letter. It was parking eye, appears to have been done on the basis of camera shots of entering and leaving, but having now checking online it seems they are saying I did not pay for any duration at all (this is not mentioned in the letter). I would dispute that, but unfortunately no longer have my ticket.
    If it's Parking Eye then definately, if your appeal to them fails, write to the Trust (or their landlord if PFI or PPP). The contracts (and more importantly the relationship) will be such that I'd expect your fine to be waived (assuming you're not demonstrably bang to rights for spending 4 hours elsewhere doing your shopping).

  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,823

    Why - foreign aid endorsement will help in those marginals
    Because we aren't the party of tax rises and big government. It's what I was saying last night.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,418
    Sandpit said:

    Memories of Aber halls of residence. 20 years ago I was just completing my first year of drinking studying there!
    My sister (OGH's daughter) went to Aber. Probably just after you: '98-'02, I think.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,132
    edited April 2017

    marke09,

    Good spot. Aber term ends on 03/06/2107.

    Then, I expect the LibDems to be in some trouble & Ceredigion will be close.

    It may depend on how organised the student LDs are at signing people up for postal votes.

    My (anecdotal) evidence is that young people seem more motivated to vote this time than is usual. Whether that will actually lead to a good turnout we'll have to see.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited April 2017
    rcs1000 said:

    My sister (OGH's daughter) went to Aber. Probably just after you: '98-'02, I think.
    I think you might have mentioned that before. I was there '96-'99 reading Economics (badly!), so we would have been there for a year at the same time. I definitely didn't have any girlfriends called Smithson that year though!! ;)
  • The big unknown in this campaign is what happens if/when we get Polls showing The Libdems ahead of Labour ? Lots of Labour voters are really Anti-Tory Voters, if Labour no longer seem to be the largest Non-Tory Party will they switch ?
    Equally, lots of Tory Voters are really Anti-Labour. If Labour is no longer a threat will those voters feel they dont need to stick with the Tories anymore ?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,823
    rcs1000 said:

    My sister (OGH's daughter) went to Aber. Probably just after you: '98-'02, I think.
    My cousin was there at the same time!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,544
    ToryJim said:
    Never fails to deliver does mrs bucket.
  • MaxPB said:

    Because we aren't the party of tax rises and big government. It's what I was saying last night.
    Foreign aid is not big government. It is the right thing to do but it does need focus. It is simply wrong at this time to suggest we spend it in the UK.

    Just noticed a trade expert has said that we should just leave the EU and join NAFTA
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,017
    Sandpit said:

    Take a photo of your car from the same angle as the one they caught, and look very carefully for any differences that indicate it was a different car. Met Police and TFL are usually very interested in plate cloning, as it will cost them congestion charge revenue and is usually associated with other crimes. On the other hand, if it's not dealt with quickly there could be dozens of fines racking up that they'll try and pin on you in the future.

    Asking the DVLA for a new plate may be sensible.

    Cheers.

    I wrote to the DVLA as you are not able to report it over the phone for some reason and you cannot email them. They have not yet responded.

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,192
    MaxPB said:

    Because we aren't the party of tax rises and big government. It's what I was saying last night.
    We are also not the party of cut it to the bone, burn the government to the ground and don't replace it ideologues either.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,544

    Cheers.

    I wrote to the DVLA as you are not able to report it over the phone for some reason and you cannot email them. They have not yet responded.

    I can understand no phone, but no email in this day and age!
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264

    PB's depth of local knowledge is ever-admirable... Is somebody going to have to compile a "exam and halls of residence deadlines per marginal-seat university" list??
    For what it's worth Bath Uni finishes on the second of June, while Bath Spa seems to not finish until the 22nd of June.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    ToryJim said:
    LOL, brilliant. Another Labour gift that keeps on giving.

    Is there a WI or similar organisation in her patch, that can send her an invite to a St George's day party?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,017
    IanB2 said:

    It shouldn't cost you. A good proportion of appeals are successful, and provided you can establish that you (and more importantly the car) weren't there, you stand every chance of having it waived at no cost to you.

    Cheers.

    I know I wasn't there - I was in bed with severe jet lag having got back that morning from a business trip to Singapore. The next day the car was exactly where I left it when I parked up on arrival from Heathrow.

    The problem is that the make and colour of my car is the same as the one caught on the camera, so if Camden want to play silly buggers it really will be a case of me having to get witness statements and so on. What worries me is that the only way this gets sorted is by having to go to court, at which stage I start to accumulate significant expense. If Camden then drops the case before it is heard, I will not be able to get my costs back.

    Obviously, we are a long way from that - but when it comes to petty officialdom, I always assume it will take the stupidest, most vindictive path!

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,132
    edited April 2017
    New thread

    Cambridge and Oxford uni students will still be 'up' on June 8
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,544
    Chameleon said:

    For what it's worth Bath Uni finishes on the second of June, while Bath Spa seems to not finish until the 22nd of June.
    Is that cos they are a bit slow in the head at bath spa?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    I'd forgotten about the Maiden, gazed at with fascination on many a rainy afternoon in my childhood. Of course in the current climate Scottish inventions may also be seen as dangerously foreign.

    I recall that the Maiden could be flat packed and transported to different cities to fulfill its purpose. An early Scandinavian influence perhaps?
    I Kill Er perhaps?
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/855733245526278144

    Reminder: the bulk of Labour seats north of the Severn-Wash line voted Leave. Virtually all of them to the south of it voted Remain.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,601

    I've got a few urgent errands to do this morning/afternoon, but I'll send you a vanilla message this evening, on how to deal with this.

    Parking Eye are well known charlatans.
    Much obliged
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,192
    https://twitter.com/alwynturner/status/855729757685788674

    Emily clearly doesn't realise that food is VAT exempt. Totally out of touch.
  • NEW THREAD

  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492

    Foreign aid is not big government. It is the right thing to do but it does need focus. It is simply wrong at this time to suggest we spend it in the UK.

    Just noticed a trade expert has said that we should just leave the EU and join NAFTA
    Foreign Aid, is the very definition of big government. You may believe that given 'Aid' to pore nations helps them and is there for right thing to do. I disagree, that is just my opinion.

    But I have no intention of stopping you spend 0.7% or whatever you feel appropriate to give to the for mention pore nation. Nor am I attempting to limit your free speech, if you wish to use it to persuade others to give equivalent money.

    However you are advocating for the government to 'use force and threats of force' I.e. the tax system to take my money and spend it in a way that I think does harm to the people you clam it helps.

    If nationalising charity giving is not Big Government, then what is?
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,080
    edited April 2017
    ToryJim said:

    https://twitter.com/alwynturner/status/855729757685788674

    Emily clearly doesn't realise that food is VAT exempt. Totally out of touch.

    The party of Tony Benn, Roy Jenkins, Robin Cook and Donald Dewar now have Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry and the like.

    I cry everyday!
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    edited April 2017
    malcolmg said:

    Given UK is hated or derided across the world, we are wasting our money.
    Your usual level of hare-filled splenetic garbage:

    http://softpower30.portland-communications.com/ranking/

    Oh look Mummy - a Nat and facts! Look away son, look away......
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,601
    ToryJim said:

    https://twitter.com/alwynturner/status/855729757685788674

    Emily clearly doesn't realise that food is VAT exempt. Totally out of touch.

    If she doesn't realise it neither will a lot of people.
    ab195 said:

    If it's Parking Eye then definately, if your appeal to them fails, write to the Trust (or their landlord if PFI or PPP). The contracts (and more importantly the relationship) will be such that I'd expect your fine to be waived (assuming you're not demonstrably bang to rights for spending 4 hours elsewhere doing your shopping).

    Cheers.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,103

    Morning Malc - not sure where your hatred around the world comes from. Visit Canada, Australia, New Zealand, US, and many more the opposite is true. The EU may not like us but they are not the world. Anyway have a good weekend
    Cheers G , the UK emigrants may not but for sure the UK has few pals left anywhere, governments in last 20 years have seen to that. US just showed how special the relationship is , ie bog off we are talking to your EX pals the EU. Hope you have a great weekend.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,103

    They will dictate the main points, we will be able to argue over detail, It will essentially be take it or leave it. And that will be the choice. The same thing applies to any trade deals we may end up "negotiating". Our hand is exceptionally weak because the only weapons we have are ones that will hurt us more than they hurt the people across the table.

    People on here , apart from a few, seem to find it hard to face that reality. They preefer to live in dreamland where UK is powerful and has a strong hand to play.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,103

    A spokesman for the leader said: "Jeremy opposed the introduction of tuition fees and every increase. We will be setting out our policies in due course."

    He previously announced plans to scrap tuition fees and restore student grants, a policy which would cost £10billion.

    Mr Corbyn suggested that it could be funded by either increasing corporation tax by 2.5 per cent or a 7 per cent hike in national insurance for those earning more than £50,000 a year.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/21/labour-ruled-tories-real-extremists-slogan-amid-fears-could/

    Peoppe lost their shit over 1%, what will the reaction be if he goes for the 7% policy.

    He is a total bellend, obviously living in la la land. I reckon he is a Tory plant.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,255
    edited April 2017
    murali_s said:

    The party of Tony Benn, Roy Jenkins, Robin Cook and Donald Dewar now have Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry and the like.

    I cry everyday!
    To be fair almost any MP from more than 40 years ago would be a giant compared to most of the current crop. It is not just Labour who suffers from this malady. There are to be sure a few in each party who are worthy of their position but overall we are very poorly served by our current bunch of politicos irrespective of their affiliation or beliefs.

    Edited on reflection to add another decade to the comparison. 30 years ago was too short.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,103
    ToryJim said:

    That's a spoof surely?
    Not for Tories and UKIP in Scotland , at the top end but not unusual. Been a stack of them last couple of weeks, especially Tories who seem to accept anybody as a candidate.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,945
    SouthamObserver:

    If you haven't already, I do consider PePiPoo a good place to ask:
    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?s=d467973c5dcec041de9d29fccc3c5c32&showforum=23
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    edited April 2017
    imageArf.
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