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2 new French polls todayTheuniondivvie said:Looks like we're reaching black swan time.
https://twitter.com/henrikenderlein/status/846398833747775488
Opinionway
1st round Le Pen 26% Macron 24% Fillon 20% Melenchon 13% Hamon 11%
Runoff Macron 61% Le Pen 39%
http://presicote.factoviz.com/index/more/id/qoo_lew_1
Ifop
1st round Macron 25.5% Le Pen 25% Fillon 17.5% Melenchon 14% Hamon 10.5%
Runoff Macron 60.5% Le Pen 39.5%
http://dataviz.ifop.com:8080/IFOP_ROLLING/IFOP_27-03-2017.pdf
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That's because the deal can't take any longer...williamglenn said:It seems that once again May has acted in a high-handed manner while committing strategic gaffes. She badly overrates herself.
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No no its May suggesting the glam days of flying are long gone.. Mr Glenn is to the Mile-high Club what SeanT is to impressionable Remoaners (emphasis on moan.)chestnut said:
She said she'd trigger A50 by March 2017. She's doing to do it.williamglenn said:It seems that once again May has acted in a high-handed manner while committing strategic gaffes. She badly overrates herself.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/846458583604695040
Unless you're saying she's in the Iraqi Army.0 -
TSE posting too soon again?peter_from_putney said:Will TSE get banned for breaking the 10.00pm embargo on GfK's poll and thereby stealing OGH's thunder?
Say it ain't so...
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Yes - for many years it produced pretty well weekly polls for the Daily Mail.peter_from_putney said:Btw .... in what way is GfK the same as NOP twelve years after the latter last produced a poll? Not only has it changed its name (for the worse imho), but it's doubtless run by different people, including Keiran Pedley by way of an example.
At one time NOP ruled the roost when it was the house pollster for the Daily Mail.0 -
The meeting that was supposed to put Sturgeon back in her box ends up merely confirming the validity of the SNP's timeline. May hasn't got it.chestnut said:
She said she'd trigger A50 by March 2017. She's doing to do it.williamglenn said:It seems that once again May has acted in a high-handed manner while committing strategic gaffes. She badly overrates herself.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/846458583604695040
Unless you're saying she's in the Iraqi Army.
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Macron is a pain for Merkel. Another federalising French man who would like the Germans to pay for everything.0
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BillyG I agree with you (First time and all that.)williamglenn said:
Trudeau is just a good-looking over-achiever with the right father. Macron could write himself into the history books.kle4 said:So if Macron wins will there be a backup world leader liberal leading light to overhype in case the shine wears of Trudeau?
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The pollster brought forward their embargo.RobD said:
TSE posting too soon again?peter_from_putney said:Will TSE get banned for breaking the 10.00pm embargo on GfK's poll and thereby stealing OGH's thunder?
Say it ain't so...
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Corbyn now has a 1% lower favourable rating than Trump in the UK
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/8464527631607070780 -
It suggests that May knows a lot more than she is presently revealing.williamglenn said:
The meeting that was supposed to put Sturgeon back in her box ends up merely confirming the validity of the SNP's timeline. May hasn't got it.chestnut said:
She said she'd trigger A50 by March 2017. She's doing to do it.williamglenn said:It seems that once again May has acted in a high-handed manner while committing strategic gaffes. She badly overrates herself.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/846458583604695040
Unless you're saying she's in the Iraqi Army.
https://twitter.com/peston/status/846442312926478336
Ratification with take how long after the draft deal is agreed?0 -
Speak for yourself. Just before Christmas I was at a fundraising dinner where he was the guest speaker and was very pleased to have had a chat of several minutes with him on matters Brexit.glw said:
He does come across as the sort of person you would hate to be sat next to on a plane or at a dinner. Maybe he's different in private but he won't be judged on that basis.Jason said:
I've never seen him smile. Has anyone? There's something very odd about him. I know that's not unusual for a Lefty, but still.MarqueeMark said:
Yes - if he gets the top job in Labour, he's going to make Theresa May look like Captain Excitement....Jason said:What a dreary oaf that Starmer fella is. Wooden doesn't begin to describe him.
Starmer comes across as unflappable, serious and competent as well as having a sharp debating mind. All the sort of qualities that caused John Smith to gain a lot of respect well before he eventually became Labour leader.0 -
Well Don't Look Back in Anger and Stop Crying Your Heart Out at Leaving the EU. Stand By Me (or SeanT if he's paying) at the PB meet-up for a Champagne Supernova that will be Supersonic and make you Live Forever taking you All Around The World till you are Half A World Away as you wake with Morning Glory (OK I'll stop now..)TheWhiteRabbit said:
Or OasisYossariansChild said:
A PB meet-up at a karaoke bar then..TheWhiteRabbit said:
I voted Remain by I dare not suffer the same fate as Orpheus...YossariansChild said:9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
Having said that I'm a big country fan you're more likely to hear that0 -
Remainers are just VERY LOUD.... Leavers are muttering under their breath "yeah, whatever mate.....loser...."tlg86 said:0 -
Macron is slightly to Trudeau's right on economics, about the same on social issues, I can't see him ousting Trudeau as the current liberal/left poster boywilliamglenn said:
Trudeau is just a good-looking over-achiever with the right father. Macron could write himself into the history books.kle4 said:So if Macron wins will there be a backup world leader liberal leading light to overhype in case the shine wears of Trudeau?
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Will be interesting to se the TablesHYUFD said:Corbyn now has a 1% lower favourable rating than Trump in the UK
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/8464527631607070780 -
Apparently the fieldwork for this poll was March 1st - March 15th - which makes it rather old. Rather surprised to see it conducted over such an extended period as two weeks!0
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Star Wars has shown us that invoking Article 50 may involve some unintended casualties...chestnut said:
She said she'd trigger A50 by March 2017. She's doing to do it.williamglenn said:It seems that once again May has acted in a high-handed manner while committing strategic gaffes. She badly overrates herself.
twitter.com/hendopolis/status/846458583604695040
Unless you're saying she's in the Iraqi Army.0 -
I always thought "Don't Cry for Me Manuel Barroso" (the truth is, I never left you...) would work wellYossariansChild said:
Well Don't Look Back in Anger and Stop Crying Your Heart Out at Leaving the EU. Stand By Me (or SeanT if he's paying) at the PB meet-up for a Champagne Supernova that will be Supersonic and make you Live Forever taking you All Around The World till you are Half A World Away as you wake with Morning Glory (OK I'll stop now..)TheWhiteRabbit said:
Or OasisYossariansChild said:
A PB meet-up at a karaoke bar then..TheWhiteRabbit said:
I voted Remain by I dare not suffer the same fate as Orpheus...YossariansChild said:9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
Having said that I'm a big country fan you're more likely to hear that0 -
Cheeky buggers.TheScreamingEagles said:
The pollster brought forward their embargo.RobD said:
TSE posting too soon again?peter_from_putney said:Will TSE get banned for breaking the 10.00pm embargo on GfK's poll and thereby stealing OGH's thunder?
Say it ain't so...
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Watching the QT Brexit special. Only thing that shines forth is that Keir Stammer is Camden's Jim Gilmore.
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Pound shop Tristam Hunt....YossariansChild said:Watching the QT Brexit special. Only thing that shines forth is that Keir Stammer is no threat..
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To ensure their methodology is robust.justin124 said:Apparently the fieldwork for this poll was March 1st - March 15th - which makes it rather old. Rather surprised to see it conducted over such an extended period as two weeks!
It should be noted that GfK, along side IPSOS Mori,help produce the exit poll that's proven so accurate at recent general elections.0 -
I thought the Scots were turning against the idea of independence on account of their rapidly running out of oil ...... but now we hear this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-394061310 -
6 months - plenty time for I2 !chestnut said:
It suggests that May knows a lot more than she is presently revealing.williamglenn said:
The meeting that was supposed to put Sturgeon back in her box ends up merely confirming the validity of the SNP's timeline. May hasn't got it.chestnut said:
She said she'd trigger A50 by March 2017. She's doing to do it.williamglenn said:It seems that once again May has acted in a high-handed manner while committing strategic gaffes. She badly overrates herself.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/846458583604695040
Unless you're saying she's in the Iraqi Army.
https://twitter.com/peston/status/846442312926478336
Ratification with take how long after the draft deal is agreed?0 -
Big cheer for Davis after he tells Clegg 'membership and access to the single market are different things'0
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Sorry to hear about that Mr Child. Hope things improve soon.YossariansChild said:
That's very kind alas I'm in East Yorkshire and suffering a bad dose of Depression right now so a social function in London is out i'm afraid. Appreciate the offer though.Mortimer said:
Jim Gilmore could only dream of such support.....YossariansChild said:9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
Good to see you in these parts.
We're having an article 50 drinks at Truckles on Wednesday 29th March, 6pm, if you fancy it?0 -
Perhaps his greatest achievement yet?HYUFD said:Corbyn now has a 1% lower favourable rating than Trump in the UK
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/846452763160707078
What is there left for Corbyn to achieve? Less favourable than Hitler? Scrofula?0 -
Lol David Davies just handed Nick Clegg his backside.0
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If you sing the Madonna version (including conical bra).. Now that would be worthy of Orpheus...TheWhiteRabbit said:
I always thought "Don't Cry for Me Manuel Barroso" (the truth is, I never left you...) would work wellYossariansChild said:
Well Don't Look Back in Anger and Stop Crying Your Heart Out at Leaving the EU. Stand By Me (or SeanT if he's paying) at the PB meet-up for a Champagne Supernova that will be Supersonic and make you Live Forever taking you All Around The World till you are Half A World Away as you wake with Morning Glory (OK I'll stop now..)TheWhiteRabbit said:
Or OasisYossariansChild said:
A PB meet-up at a karaoke bar then..TheWhiteRabbit said:
I voted Remain by I dare not suffer the same fate as Orpheus...YossariansChild said:9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
Having said that I'm a big country fan you're more likely to hear that0 -
Says Hurricane - a company in need of additional funding to PROVE what it says it has found....peter_from_putney said:I thought the Scots were turning against the idea of independence on account of their rapidly running out of oil ...... but now we hear this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-394061310 -
Thank you. And good to see you back postingMortimer said:
Sorry to hear about that Mr Child. Hope things improve soon.YossariansChild said:
That's very kind alas I'm in East Yorkshire and suffering a bad dose of Depression right now so a social function in London is out i'm afraid. Appreciate the offer though.Mortimer said:
Jim Gilmore could only dream of such support.....YossariansChild said:9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
Good to see you in these parts.
We're having an article 50 drinks at Truckles on Wednesday 29th March, 6pm, if you fancy it?0 -
If he falls below Piers Morgan he knows he really has hit rock bottom!MarqueeMark said:
Perhaps his greatest achievement yet?HYUFD said:Corbyn now has a 1% lower favourable rating than Trump in the UK
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/846452763160707078
What is there left for Corbyn to achieve? Less favourable than Hitler? Scrofula?0 -
Interesting - though it does make the poll a bit old. Mori also last came up with a 13% Tory lead.TheScreamingEagles said:
To ensure their methodology is robust.justin124 said:Apparently the fieldwork for this poll was March 1st - March 15th - which makes it rather old. Rather surprised to see it conducted over such an extended period as two weeks!
It should be noted that GfK, along side IPSOS Mori,help produce the exit poll that's proven so accurate at recent general elections.0 -
There's one word to describe him. Dull. He is a crashing bore. An automaton. A serious dullard. You cannot compare him to John Smith, not in any way.Wulfrun_Phil said:
Speak for yourself. Just before Christmas I was at a fundraising dinner where he was the guest speaker and was very pleased to have had a chat of several minutes with him on matters Brexit.glw said:
He does come across as the sort of person you would hate to be sat next to on a plane or at a dinner. Maybe he's different in private but he won't be judged on that basis.Jason said:
I've never seen him smile. Has anyone? There's something very odd about him. I know that's not unusual for a Lefty, but still.MarqueeMark said:
Yes - if he gets the top job in Labour, he's going to make Theresa May look like Captain Excitement....Jason said:What a dreary oaf that Starmer fella is. Wooden doesn't begin to describe him.
Starmer comes across as unflappable, serious and competent as well as having a sharp debating mind. All the sort of qualities that caused John Smith to gain a lot of respect well before he eventually became Labour leader.0 -
Keir Stammer is like Kryton with bad hair..0
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Lol, yes. I knew he reminded me of someone. Of course, Kryton is funny, but the head - yes, spot on. That grimace is pure Kryton.YossariansChild said:Keir Stammer is like Kryton with bad hair..
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Keir Stammer's QT prep tonight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXKlC8ph7mMJason said:
Lol, yes. I knew he reminded me of someone. Of course, Kryton is funny, but the head - yes, spot on. That grimace is pure Kryton.YossariansChild said:Keir Stammer is like Kryton with bad hair..
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Hear, hear.Jason said:
There's one word to describe him. Dull. He is a crashing bore. An automaton. A serious dullard. You cannot compare him to John Smith, not in any way.Wulfrun_Phil said:
Speak for yourself. Just before Christmas I was at a fundraising dinner where he was the guest speaker and was very pleased to have had a chat of several minutes with him on matters Brexit.glw said:
He does come across as the sort of person you would hate to be sat next to on a plane or at a dinner. Maybe he's different in private but he won't be judged on that basis.Jason said:
I've never seen him smile. Has anyone? There's something very odd about him. I know that's not unusual for a Lefty, but still.MarqueeMark said:
Yes - if he gets the top job in Labour, he's going to make Theresa May look like Captain Excitement....Jason said:What a dreary oaf that Starmer fella is. Wooden doesn't begin to describe him.
Starmer comes across as unflappable, serious and competent as well as having a sharp debating mind. All the sort of qualities that caused John Smith to gain a lot of respect well before he eventually became Labour leader.0 -
I love editing PB, but the embargoes stress me out.RobD said:
Cheeky buggers.TheScreamingEagles said:
The pollster brought forward their embargo.RobD said:
TSE posting too soon again?peter_from_putney said:Will TSE get banned for breaking the 10.00pm embargo on GfK's poll and thereby stealing OGH's thunder?
Say it ain't so...
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If Keir Starmer is the best Labour have got God help them. Having said that Remainers were by a distance the most persuasive.
The Tories dodged a bullet when they didn't elect Davis.0 -
NEW THREAD
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Don't you just love Sky. In the week A50 is being served it news is completely dominated by live coverage from Iraq. Their reporting is extensive and brave but really why this week. It been so total that I have been compelled to watch BBC0
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"Hurricane Energy said one billion barrels of recoverable oil could be contained within the Greater Lancaster Area, 60 miles (97km) west of Shetland."calum said:Another 1 Billion barrels
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-39406131
While this is very good news for the Oil&Gas Industry, careful wording of ' one billion barrels of recoverable oil could be contained within the Greater Lancaster Area'. Its not in the bag yet, go read the Hurricane Energy press release.0 -
It will get the funding - or be taken over by one of the big boys. I've taken a small stake in it myself this morning.MarqueeMark said:
Says Hurricane - a company in need of additional funding to PROVE what it says it has found....peter_from_putney said:I thought the Scots were turning against the idea of independence on account of their rapidly running out of oil ...... but now we hear this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-394061310 -
No one could beat my Highland Granny when it came to setting a slow burning furnace in the fireplace. Once she lit the fire and got the logs going, she then piled on the coal and dross until there was absolutely no sign of a flame. So for about two hours you would get no heat from the fire, and then suddenly a wee flame would appear, and before you knew it was like a furnace and you were absolutely toasty warm.Beverley_C said:
It has to be said that there are few pleasures better than having a big fireplace and throwing big well-seasoned chunks of wood into the flames. My mother-in-law's farm has a big woodshed full of logs and in the middle of winter the fire is like a furnace. Lovely and cosyFrancisUrquhart said:Also with modern central heating, it gets hot quickly anyway. It isn't like t'olden days where you had to build and light t'fire and in an hour or so it would start to get warm.
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