By-election news: Lord Colgrain has won the by-election for hereditory peers. He beat 26 other candidates including Earl Stockton, Earl Lloyd-George, and Lord Harlech. Can honestly say I had never heard of him.
Who, indeed, would be expected to have heard of a hereditary peerage created after WW2?
They're all a bit parvenu compared to the Earl of Arundel (cr 1138): Harlech (cr. 1876), Lloyd-George (cr. 1945), Colgrain (cr. 1946) and new kid on the block Stockton (cr. 1984). With the elevation of Willie Whitelaw in 1983 the Blessed Margaret appeared to create a meme that only candidates without heirs might aspire to the 'modern' hereditary peerage, but the following year Harold Macmillan drove a coach and four through this dubious principle by demanding his earldom as a former PM. I'm sorry the current Earl (and former MEP) didn't make it this time, but at least he has an heir, so his time might come eventually, post mortem.
A parsec is the distance at which 1 au subtends 1 arcsecond on the sky. They are intimately linked.
I am not denying that. What I am saying is that if I need to use parsecs then there is virtually point to using AUs for that measurement. If something is 2.2 M parsecs away then I will say that rather than 453,783,000,000 AUs
But that doesn't change the fact it is the basis of the parsec
*sigh*
Yes... you correct. It is the basis of the parsec
But nobody measures stellar distance in AUs
That is unnecessarily rude; you are the one missing the point, and making the erroneous statement in the first place that parsecs are metric.
The parsec is no more metric than the metre. The metre is 1.6(ish) million wavelengths of light or the distance travelled by light in 1/299,000(ish) of a second. But it is divided up in a regular way just like the metre, milliparsecs, parsecs, kiloparsecs, megaparsecs gigaparsecs. We do not have an "oddball" conversion factor like 1 parfoot = 12 parsecs or 1 parinch = 1/36 of a parsec
But surely the original "metre" was the distance from the North pole to the equator divided by 10000. Obviously, only the French could think like that.
The most annoying number in the world, after Don Bradman's batting average, is the speed of light at 299 792 458 m / s. If only, if only we could redefine the metre as 1/300000000 of the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1 second.
Surely if we simply changed the value of a second, that problem would solve itself.
I believe there are nutters about who contend that the speed of light is not constant but changes over time. Either your change, or mine, would make it very difficult for them to formulate their claim..
I'm in the nutters camp then! I think it's more likely that it does change than that it doesn't. I can't see why it might be constant. Even such obviously constant things like the number of dimensions in the universe might not actually be so. I guess I draw my personal line with things like prime numbers - I do believe that a number that is prime now will be prime forever. Tory government is looking like a candidate for another good example!
No offence! And if you asked me to outline the reasons why believing that it might have varied by a metre or two per second over the centuries is manifestly insane, I wouldn't have a clue.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Interesting perspective from within SLAB on the Labour Hame site - a bit of a long read - as are many of the comments. That said - the upshot appears to be that SLAB would reluctantly join with the Tories in any Indyref2 campaign, but would be campaigning on the new "Project Home Rule" basis outlined by Mr Brown.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Looks like LGBTIQ....is going to need some more letters
It already does - LGBTIQA.
A four letter unpronounceable acronym is ok as you can spell it out in not too much time, but if your going 7 letters it really has to be pronounceable.
Seriously, we are all people, it's culture that is different (and people of different skin colours and other differences have been treated differently within carious cultures), so what would even be the point of saying you 'feel' at heart that you are a different race? That'd just be saying you desire a different culture or something, surely? In which case why even bring up that you feel like you are a different skin colour inside?
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Looks like LGBTIQ....is going to need some more letters...I suggest N....for Nutter.
We're going to get to a point where you can self identify as whatever you want soon.
Here's a revolutionary thought...why don't people just say I am an individual, a thing called a person.
Where's the fun in that? I wanna be a Viking!
A transracial viking?
I just want to be a stylized version, good hair, nice tattoos, big muscles, and a big wolfhound. A few hot blondes draped tastefully on fur rugs around my log burner, nothing controversial.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Looks like LGBTIQ....is going to need some more letters...I suggest N....for Nutter.
The N for nutter is already catered for. Some of those letters represent people who are simply not right in the head and need treatment rather than encouragement.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Looks like LGBTIQ....is going to need some more letters...I suggest N....for Nutter.
The N for nutter is already catered for. Some of those letters represent people who are simply not right in the head and need treatment rather than encouragement.
I'd have to disagree. There are a lot of people who just don't feel in the right body, and they deserve understanding, not "treating". I think a few sharks are being jumped when you start to want to self identified as a different race though.
Rachel Dolezal - the white US woman who said she was black - says "the idea of race is a lie".
Speaking in an interview with Emily Maitlis, she argued that the concept of "transracial" - similar to that of transgender - is useful in describing people such as herself.
Looks like LGBTIQ....is going to need some more letters...I suggest N....for Nutter.
The N for nutter is already catered for. Some of those letters represent people who are simply not right in the head and need treatment rather than encouragement.
I'd have to disagree. There are a lot of people who just don't feel in the right body, and they deserve understanding, not "treating". I think a few sharks are being jumped when you start to want to self identified as a different race though.
Race is a silly thing to treat people differently over, of course, but I genuinely don't get the idea you can 'feel' like a different skin colour. Sexuality is much more fluid (which is of course one reason they keep adding new letters, since I'm sure there are more that are still left out).
I'm in the nutters camp then! I think it's more likely that it does change than that it doesn't. I can't see why it might be constant. Even such obviously constant things like the number of dimensions in the universe might not actually be so. I guess I draw my personal line with things like prime numbers - I do believe that a number that is prime now will be prime forever. Tory government is looking like a candidate for another good example!
No offence! And if you asked me to outline the reasons why believing that it might have varied by a metre or two per second over the centuries is manifestly insane, I wouldn't have a clue.
Ah, the nutters are some young earth creationists. The change in the speed of light they hypothesise is, erm, significant and substantial.
Interesting perspective from within SLAB on the Labour Hame site - a bit of a long read - as are many of the comments. That said - the upshot appears to be that SLAB would reluctantly join with the Tories in any Indyref2 campaign, but would be campaigning on the new "Project Home Rule" basis outlined by Mr Brown.
Not sure how this approach will work as their campaigning partners - the Tories - will not be supportive !
Hopefully some of the Labour Hame folks might join our merryband in the run up to Indyref2 !!
I cannot see Indyref2 this side of the next general election in 2020. Theresa May has said not now and nothing is going to change her mind. Indeed I would suspect neither the HOC or HOL would pass the legislation at this time.
I believe that Nicola has embarked on an unnecessary high stakes gamble that if anything makes independence less likely than more likely
Maybe some on here will disagree with me but TM is willing to take the flak if necessary and probably that is as a result of talks with the Scots Unionist parties and focus groups that have shown a majority of Scots do not want this referendum now
A log burner in a fire place is good, but a lot of the heat goes up the chimney and into the bricks. We've got ours in the lounge, but against a wall, with the maximum allowed exposed flue plugged into the side of the chimney breast. It's only small, but can be unbearable. A few weeks ago when we had a mini cold snap, I walked around with the Hive thermostat. It was 36 degrees on the sofa, 25 in the hallway, and 22 in our bedroom. Trouble is, the temperature difference is so great, it feels freezing in the bedroom! I've got a Stirling fan on the top of the stove, which does seem to push the heat around a little.
TFS you are a wimp , when I were a lad we had no heating , coal fire in the living room was it, we had ice on the inside of the bedroom windows.
I had that as a lad in a council house in a small village outside Leicester late 60, early 70s.. I remember the worst winter, the water in the inside toilet froze! I vowed never to be cold and poor as an adult. I've not always kept the vow, unfortunately!
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
I lived in a house with no central heating until I was 9 (in 1969). As a kid, the only winter warmth I got was from a Chinese burn off the school bully....
I remember the ice forming on the inside of the windows as the condensation froze. You just put on another jumper.
NOP was no more reliable than other pollsters when it reported regularly in the past. I recall it gave Labour a 12.4% lead less than a week before the June 1970 election - yet the Tories went on to win by over 2%.
A log burner in a fire place is good, but a lot of the heat goes up the chimney and into the bricks. We've got ours in the lounge, but against a wall, with the maximum allowed exposed flue plugged into the side of the chimney breast. It's only small, but can be unbearable. A few weeks ago when we had a mini cold snap, I walked around with the Hive thermostat. It was 36 degrees on the sofa, 25 in the hallway, and 22 in our bedroom. Trouble is, the temperature difference is so great, it feels freezing in the bedroom! I've got a Stirling fan on the top of the stove, which does seem to push the heat around a little.
TFS you are a wimp , when I were a lad we had no heating , coal fire in the living room was it, we had ice on the inside of the bedroom windows.
I had that as a lad in a council house in a small village outside Leicester late 60, early 70s.. I remember the worst winter, the water in the inside toilet froze! I vowed never to be cold and poor as an adult. I've not always kept the vow, unfortunately!
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
I used to shovel the coal into my grandparents fire in their council house when I was between 5 and 10 years old. But they did have one indoor lavatory as well as an outside one. That was in the late 80s / early 90s. In about 1992 they got a modern fire installed. A bit of a difference from my parents' house where we had 3 indoor loos.
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
Do you wow your young lady friends with all these talks of the good old days?
A log burner in a fire place is good, but a lot of the heat goes up the chimney and into the bricks. We've got ours in the lounge, but against a wall, with the maximum allowed exposed flue plugged into the side of the chimney breast. It's only small, but can be unbearable. A few weeks ago when we had a mini cold snap, I walked around with the Hive thermostat. It was 36 degrees on the sofa, 25 in the hallway, and 22 in our bedroom. Trouble is, the temperature difference is so great, it feels freezing in the bedroom! I've got a Stirling fan on the top of the stove, which does seem to push the heat around a little.
TFS you are a wimp , when I were a lad we had no heating , coal fire in the living room was it, we had ice on the inside of the bedroom windows.
I had that as a lad in a council house in a small village outside Leicester late 60, early 70s.. I remember the worst winter, the water in the inside toilet froze! I vowed never to be cold and poor as an adult. I've not always kept the vow, unfortunately!
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
I used to shovel the coal into my grandparents fire in their council house when I was between 5 and 10 years old. But they did have one indoor lavatory as well as an outside one. That was in the late 80s / early 90s. In about 1992 they got a modern fire installed. A bit of a difference from my parents' house where we had 3 indoor loos.
Of course these days having a real fire adds £50k to the price of any house.
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
Do you wow your young lady friends with all these talks of the good old days?
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
Seems Nick Clegg would willingly roll over for the EU.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
I would rather watch the terrible trio of Farage, Campbell and Morgan on repeat for 90 mins than watch QT special.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
Seems Nick Clegg would willingly roll over for the EU.
The Remainers are treading a fine line here. By all means they have a right to argue in favour of erring on the side of securing access to the single market, for example. But if they start arguing things which are blatantly bollocks they will be seen as the enemy within.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
£50bn is probably just an opening gambit on the EU's part (so that they can present it as a "compromise" when they present a much lower bill to Britain).
What's more worrying is that, all the signs are Theresa May is probably going to end up saying "we won't pay a penny" on principle, which will mean no deal.
The tricky part is not the money but EU citizens' rights, given that May intends to start negotiations by holding 5 million of them hostage.
I agree that there should be the utmost urgency on sorting out a deal for both EU citizens here, and British citizens in the EU, but saying holding them hostage is way over the top.
Interesting perspective from within SLAB on the Labour Hame site - a bit of a long read - as are many of the comments. That said - the upshot appears to be that SLAB would reluctantly join with the Tories in any Indyref2 campaign, but would be campaigning on the new "Project Home Rule" basis outlined by Mr Brown.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
There was something about this in the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant. EU negotiators claim to be on very strong ground legally. Seemingly, a deal was done at the request of the British back in 2014 to defer payments to the budget in return for agreeing to the programme. At least part of the €60 billion is the arrears that have accumulated.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
I would have thought parsecs refer to how much "angle" the object covers.
The parsec is useful because it can be used in direct measurement. If star shows an annual parallax of 0.2 arcsecs then it is 1 / 0.2 = 5 parsecs away
I see. Trigonometry. But surely a star very, very far away even after 6 months will not reveal much movement, or am I wrong ?
The amount of movement is indeed very small, but is measurable. The Kepler satellite was able to make these measurements to discover planets of nearby stars.
Also, see the Hipparcos satellite which determined the distances of the nearest 100,000 stars using this method
From memory, there are several main mechanisms to detect an exoplanet: 1) 'wobble' of a star's orbit (the gravitational effect of the planes) 2) Dimunation of a star's light as a planet passes in front of it. This requires the star and planet to be on the same plane relative to us. 3) Gravitational lensing (rare, and mostly suitable for very long distances). 4) Direct imaging; the light reflected from the planet.
Both 1 and 2 are best at detecting larger planets (as they dim the light more, and cause more wobbles). Planet of Earth mass are harder to detect. ISTR some planets have been detected by both 1 and 2, which is reasonable confirmation of the techniques. 3 is just weird.
For 4, it has primarily been measuring the flux emitted by the planets themselves, they are too far away from their host star for reflected light.
Thanks. IANAE. Just an interested observer.
New space telescopes such as WFIRST will be looking for reflected light planets - the goal for those is to search for earth like planets. Currently direct imaging is focussed on looking for Jupiter-like planets which are still warm from their formation (~1000K compared to Jupiter's ~100K).
I believe they are independent bodies, the EU hasn't absorbed them quite yet.
Norway includes payments to them in their payments to the EU line.
Norway is not a member of ESO. What involvement it has with ESO will be in research funded through, among others streams, the EU's Horizon 2020 programme which it is a member of and does pay into.
The tricky part is not the money but EU citizens' rights, given that May intends to start negotiations by holding 5 million of them hostage.
I agree that there should be the utmost urgency on sorting out a deal for both EU citizens here, and British citizens in the EU, but saying holding them hostage is way over the top.
It seems my point was too subtle. I was referring to her attitude to Scotland.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
There was something about this in the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant. EU negotiators claim to be on very strong ground legally. Seemingly, a deal was done at the request of the British back in 2014 to defer payments to the budget in return for agreeing to the programme. At least part of the €60 billion is the arrears that have accumulated.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
There was something about this in the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant. EU negotiators claim to be on very strong ground legally. Seemingly, a deal was done at the request of the British back in 2014 to defer payments to the budget in return for agreeing to the programme. At least part of the €60 billion is the arrears that have accumulated.
Presumably that shows up in our public accounts? And if that is the case, once May agrees to a figure, she should make sure everyone is clear that we're paying Osborne's debts!
Interesting perspective from within SLAB on the Labour Hame site - a bit of a long read - as are many of the comments. That said - the upshot appears to be that SLAB would reluctantly join with the Tories in any Indyref2 campaign, but would be campaigning on the new "Project Home Rule" basis outlined by Mr Brown.
Not sure how this approach will work as their campaigning partners - the Tories - will not be supportive !
Hopefully some of the Labour Hame folks might join our merryband in the run up to Indyref2 !!
I cannot see Indyref2 this side of the next general election in 2020. Theresa May has said not now and nothing is going to change her mind. Indeed I would suspect neither the HOC or HOL would pass the legislation at this time.
I believe that Nicola has embarked on an unnecessary high stakes gamble that if anything makes independence less likely than more likely
Maybe some on here will disagree with me but TM is willing to take the flak if necessary and probably that is as a result of talks with the Scots Unionist parties and focus groups that have shown a majority of Scots do not want this referendum now
As far as TM & the Scots Unionists parties are concerned there will never be a good time to hold Indyref2 - the headlines from 2009 were a virtual re run of many recent headlines:
I think SLAB's commitment to the "Unionist cause" this time around will be less than wholehearted ! - particularly as we seem set for a generation of Tory rule - with only one possible escape route !!
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
There was something about this in the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant. EU negotiators claim to be on very strong ground legally. Seemingly, a deal was done at the request of the British back in 2014 to defer payments to the budget in return for agreeing to the programme. At least part of the €60 billion is the arrears that have accumulated.
Presumably that shows up in our public accounts? And if that is the case, once May agrees to a figure, she should make sure everyone is clear that we're paying Osborne's debts!
Good question. I am guessing it doesn't show as a liability on the account because the assumption was that the UK would continue membership of the EU and the back payments would be absorbed by the membership fee that applies in a future year.
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
There was something about this in the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant. EU negotiators claim to be on very strong ground legally. Seemingly, a deal was done at the request of the British back in 2014 to defer payments to the budget in return for agreeing to the programme. At least part of the €60 billion is the arrears that have accumulated.
Presumably that shows up in our public accounts? And if that is the case, once May agrees to a figure, she should make sure everyone is clear that we're paying Osborne's debts!
Good question. I am guessing it doesn't show as a liability on the account because the assumption was that the UK would continue membership of the EU and the back payments would be absorbed by the membership fee that applies in a future year.
Hmm, I wonder how the markets would react if it turns out we've been massaging the debt figures by deferring EU contributions?
I believe they are independent bodies, the EU hasn't absorbed them quite yet.
Norway includes payments to them in their payments to the EU line.
Norway is not a member of ESO. What involvement it has with ESO will be in research funded through, among others streams, the EU's Horizon 2020 programme which it is a member of and does pay into.
Correct.
ESO, ESA & CERN have nothing to do with the EU. Whether a country is a member depends on whether it wishes to pay the subscription fee, and that depends on whether a country has enough researchers/scientists to make it a worthwhile investment.
Ireland, for example is only a member of ESA. Presumably, there are enough satellite technology companies in Ireland to make it a worthwhile investment. But, there are not enough astronomers or particle physicists to make ESO or CERN worthwhile.
An independent Scotland, if it joined the EU, might (like Ireland) not join ESO or CERN. It may simply not be worth it.
Interesting perspective from within SLAB on the Labour Hame site - a bit of a long read - as are many of the comments. That said - the upshot appears to be that SLAB would reluctantly join with the Tories in any Indyref2 campaign, but would be campaigning on the new "Project Home Rule" basis outlined by Mr Brown.
Interesting perspective from within SLAB on the Labour Hame site - a bit of a long read - as are many of the comments. That said - the upshot appears to be that SLAB would reluctantly join with the Tories in any Indyref2 campaign, but would be campaigning on the new "Project Home Rule" basis outlined by Mr Brown.
5...4...3...2...1...Justin Short Straws tells us it isn't all bad for Labour due to precedent set in the rerun of 1928 Scunthorpe parish council elections...
Who's watching this prime time edition of Question Time? I'm confused about what Nick Clegg is saying. He says the EU won't demand money for after we've left, they just want us to settle up before we leave. But we're leaving in two years, so why are they demanding 50bn? That's five year's worth of contributions not two.
There was something about this in the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant. EU negotiators claim to be on very strong ground legally. Seemingly, a deal was done at the request of the British back in 2014 to defer payments to the budget in return for agreeing to the programme. At least part of the €60 billion is the arrears that have accumulated.
Presumably that shows up in our public accounts? And if that is the case, once May agrees to a figure, she should make sure everyone is clear that we're paying Osborne's debts!
Good question. I am guessing it doesn't show as a liability on the account because the assumption was that the UK would continue membership of the EU and the back payments would be absorbed by the membership fee that applies in a future year.
Hmm, I wonder how the markets would react if it turns out we've been massaging the debt figures by deferring EU contributions?
I thought the contributions were minimal, so presumably it makes little difference to the debt?
Just watched a VW TV ad for the Golf, music 'I am a passenger', triggered off thought same track used for Toyota Avensis ad in 1998 @Roger might even be impressed I recalled an ad from 19 years ago.
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
Do you wow your young lady friends with all these talks of the good old days?
No.
I somehow thought that might be the case...Not sure talking about stocking the old coal fire on tinder does the trick with the nubile Corbynistas....first and foremost because coal is bad, it adds to global warming.
9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
What a dreary oaf that Starmer fella is. Wooden doesn't begin to describe him.
Yes - if he gets the top job in Labour, he's going to make Theresa May look like Captain Excitement....
I've never seen him smile. Has anyone? There's something very odd about him. I know that's not unusual for a Lefty, but still.
He does come across as the sort of person you would hate to be sat next to on a plane or at a dinner. Maybe he's different in private but he won't be judged on that basis.
An independent Scotland, if it joined the EU, might (like Ireland) not join ESO or CERN. It may simply not be worth it.
That might be a shame, as dark matter might prove to be deep-fried Mars bars, and dark energy the fury of nationalists denied a referendum ...
There are some particle physicists in the Universities of Edinburgh and Glasgow, but I’d be surprised if it is enough to justify a Cern subscription fee.
The Higgs boson was of course first hypothesised in Edinburgh.
9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
I voted Remain by I dare not suffer the same fate as Orpheus...
9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
Jim Gilmore could only dream of such support.....
Good to see you in these parts.
We're having an article 50 drinks at Truckles on Wednesday 29th March, 6pm, if you fancy it?
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
Do you wow your young lady friends with all these talks of the good old days?
No.
I somehow thought that might be the case...Not sure talking about stocking the old coal fire on tinder does the trick with the nubile Corbynistas....first and foremost because coal is bad, it adds to global warming.
We still had an outside bog when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad was a tutor at a local college of education. So were theoretically middle class. And yes we had a coal fire, and no central heating. It was often my job to set and light the fire on winter mornings - no joke.
I remember the big day we got "storage heaters", meaning much more heat, and less reliance on that single coal fire.
Quite incredible, really.
Do you wow your young lady friends with all these talks of the good old days?
No.
What do you wow them with Sean? I'm intrigued. What does it take for a middle aged man to 'attract' a 21 year old?
9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
I voted Remain by I dare not suffer the same fate as Orpheus...
9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
I voted Remain by I dare not suffer the same fate as Orpheus...
A PB meet-up at a karaoke bar then..
Or Oasis
Having said that I'm a big country fan you're more likely to hear that
9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
Jim Gilmore could only dream of such support.....
Good to see you in these parts.
We're having an article 50 drinks at Truckles on Wednesday 29th March, 6pm, if you fancy it?
That's very kind alas I'm in East Yorkshire and suffering a bad dose of Depression right now so a social function in London is out i'm afraid. Appreciate the offer though.
5...4...3...2...1...Justin Short Straws tells us it isn't all bad for Labour due to precedent set in the rerun of 1928 Scunthorpe parish council elections...
5...4...3...2...1...Justin Short Straws tells us it isn't all bad for Labour due to precedent set in the rerun of 1928 Scunthorpe parish council elections...
You Stupid Boy!
Sorry did I get the year wrong of the infamous rerun?
9% of Remain votes think Brexit was the right decision and 9% dont know. So nearly 20% of Remain voters arent sure about remaining in the EU.. I look forward to a thread on this..
I voted Remain by I dare not suffer the same fate as Orpheus...
A PB meet-up at a karaoke bar then..
Or Oasis
Having said that I'm a big country fan you're more likely to hear that
"The reasons that I can't stay, don't have a thing to do with being in love And I understand that lovin' (the EU) shouldn't have to be this rough And you ain't the only one who feels like this world's left you far behind I don't know why you gotta be angry all the time."
Btw .... in what way is GfK the same as NOP twelve years after the latter last produced a poll? Not only has it changed its name (for the worse imho), but it's doubtless run by different people, including Keiran Pedley by way of an example. At one time NOP ruled the roost when it was the house pollster for the Daily Mail.
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http://labourhame.com/the-playmobil-parliament/
Not sure how this approach will work as their campaigning partners - the Tories - will not be supportive !
Hopefully some of the Labour Hame folks might join our merryband in the run up to Indyref2 !!
A four letter unpronounceable acronym is ok as you can spell it out in not too much time, but if your going 7 letters it really has to be pronounceable.
Seriously, we are all people, it's culture that is different (and people of different skin colours and other differences have been treated differently within carious cultures), so what would even be the point of saying you 'feel' at heart that you are a different race? That'd just be saying you desire a different culture or something, surely? In which case why even bring up that you feel like you are a different skin colour inside?
I believe that Nicola has embarked on an unnecessary high stakes gamble that if anything makes independence less likely than more likely
Maybe some on here will disagree with me but TM is willing to take the flak if necessary and probably that is as a result of talks with the Scots Unionist parties and focus groups that have shown a majority of Scots do not want this referendum now
I remember the ice forming on the inside of the windows as the condensation froze. You just put on another jumper.
What's more worrying is that, all the signs are Theresa May is probably going to end up saying "we won't pay a penny" on principle, which will mean no deal.
It will turn out to be another thing where people have thrown themselves into a tizz while the likely and sensible solution was always in sight.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-same-old-songs-again/#more-93143
I think SLAB's commitment to the "Unionist cause" this time around will be less than wholehearted ! - particularly as we seem set for a generation of Tory rule - with only one possible escape route !!
ESO, ESA & CERN have nothing to do with the EU. Whether a country is a member depends on whether it wishes to pay the subscription fee, and that depends on whether a country has enough researchers/scientists to make it a worthwhile investment.
Ireland, for example is only a member of ESA. Presumably, there are enough satellite technology companies in Ireland to make it a worthwhile investment. But, there are not enough astronomers or particle physicists to make ESO or CERN worthwhile.
An independent Scotland, if it joined the EU, might (like Ireland) not join ESO or CERN. It may simply not be worth it.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/846454685192126464
https://twitter.com/henrikenderlein/status/846398833747775488
So Cameron/Osborne fixed the EU contributions, so it looked like it was lower during the referendum?
Has anyone stayed at the Marina Bay Sands hotel in Singapore? On BBC2 now. Amazing infinity pool on the roof.
So long as it wasn't me, that's all I care about
The Higgs boson was of course first hypothesised in Edinburgh.
Good to see you in these parts.
We're having an article 50 drinks at Truckles on Wednesday 29th March, 6pm, if you fancy it?
Having said that I'm a big country fan you're more likely to hear that
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/846458583604695040
And I understand that lovin' (the EU) shouldn't have to be this rough
And you ain't the only one who feels like this world's left you far behind
I don't know why you gotta be angry all the time."
At one time NOP ruled the roost when it was the house pollster for the Daily Mail.
Unless you're saying she's in the Iraqi Army.