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The Mirror did. The first sentence of Mike's piece states "The Mirror is reporting that Corbyn has commissioned a 10k sample poll to get views on his own future."AlastairMeeks said:
I didn't name Jeremy Corbyn.Cynosarges said:
If, as reported, "no-one is supposed to know about it", and "Even the people who signed off the contract aren’t allowed to see the questions, let alone the results" then who will be 'bolstering' Corbyn's position, as no-one will have seen the poll?AlastairMeeks said:I expect this has been commissioned in the same way that most management consultancy is commissioned: the results will be well-known in advance but they will be used to bolster the position of the person who has commissioned it.
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The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week0 -
Yes, it's considered part of the punishment.TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago I read a report on American prisons, and the view of American prison officers was that prison rape was one of those things prisoners had to deal with. If they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't commit crimes.foxinsoxuk said:
Interesting fact that I heard the other day. USA is the only country where the reported rape rate of males is higher than females. Apparently this is accounted for by the very high incarceration rate in the USA.MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
Some US prisons sound like hellholes. Both the ones where you get raped by the other inmates, and the ones where you get locked up in solitary confinement in sound-proofed cells.0 -
GOsborneGenius @GOsborneGenius 2h2 hours agoThreeQuidder said:twitter.com/ihaveleftlabour/status/833713364878622721
@Kevin_Maguire You must've known this would happen0 -
They were third in 2015, unfortunately.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week0 -
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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Mr. Loud, welcome to the site (same chap as Mr. Cloud, perhaps?).
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Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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But surely it is the job of the media to report and interpret, not to print verbatim; they are not just taking minutes.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
I heard what he said re Sweden. True he did not say a terrorist attack, but he did refer to what had just happened. An event that had just occurred while talking about the dangers of uncontroled immigation. What event was this then?
You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?
You object to media interpreting what he is saying yet you are suggesting we are to interpret his meanings like you do or he is setting deliberate traps with his words that the left fall into.
Aren't there logical contradictions there.0 -
Though it does seem as if many of the rapes are staff on inmate rather than inmate on inmate:TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago I read a report on American prisons, and the view of American prison officers was that prison rape was one of those things prisoners had to deal with. If they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't commit crimes.foxinsoxuk said:
Interesting fact that I heard the other day. USA is the only country where the reported rape rate of males is higher than females. Apparently this is accounted for by the very high incarceration rate in the USA.MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/24/prison-rape-and-government/?pagination=false
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Presumably that too is considered part of the punishment.foxinsoxuk said:
Though it does seem as if many of the rapes are staff on inmate rather than inmate on inmate:TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago I read a report on American prisons, and the view of American prison officers was that prison rape was one of those things prisoners had to deal with. If they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't commit crimes.foxinsoxuk said:
Interesting fact that I heard the other day. USA is the only country where the reported rape rate of males is higher than females. Apparently this is accounted for by the very high incarceration rate in the USA.MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/24/prison-rape-and-government/?pagination=false0 -
Mrs May has a nice line in quiet menace 'love me' Dave never had.....RobD said:
Simon Blackwell ✔ @simonblackwellCarlottaVance said:twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
@MichaelPDeacon "Nice chamber you got here, be a shame if anything...happened to it."
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I cant see what has changed, I would have that as good value indeed.AlastairMeeks said:Lawks, UKIP last matched at 3.95 in Stoke Central.
What would pbers regard as a fair price for UKIP in Stoke Central right now?
Surely people cant get carried away with market momentum after Trump, Brexit and NOM at GE 15? Learn the lessons!!0 -
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Judicial Watch: Federal Court Issues Opinion Ordering Release of More #ClintonFoundation Conflict of Interest Docs https://t.co/0sz9dfI3ru0 -
A novel interpretation.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week
United Kingdom general election, 2015 (Scotland)
SNP - 1,454,436
SLab - 707,147
SCon - 434,097
LD - 219,675
'Scottish Tories: worst vote share in its history'
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Out of the parties that won exactly one seat, they were the closest to winning a second.RobD said:
They were third in 2015, unfortunately.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week0 -
Broken windows policy? Gentrification? Both?AndyJS said:
Although interestingly the murder rate has stayed very low in New York.PlatoSaid said:Dear Obama
Wall Street Journal
Murder rates in Chicago, Baltimore, Milwaukee and Memphis have returned to levels not seen since the 1990s https://t.co/Rzw0lYHrDY0 -
Didn't do too badly in 2016 thoughTheuniondivvie said:
A novel interpretation.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week
United Kingdom general election, 2015 (Scotland)
SNP - 1,454,436
SLab - 707,147
SCon - 434,097
LD - 219,675
'Scottish Tories: worst vote share in its history'
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Just as well that in America, no one lands in jail for trivial reasons, or is on remand.Sean_F said:
Presumably that too is considered part of the punishment.foxinsoxuk said:
Though it does seem as if many of the rapes are staff on inmate rather than inmate on inmate:TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago I read a report on American prisons, and the view of American prison officers was that prison rape was one of those things prisoners had to deal with. If they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't commit crimes.foxinsoxuk said:
Interesting fact that I heard the other day. USA is the only country where the reported rape rate of males is higher than females. Apparently this is accounted for by the very high incarceration rate in the USA.MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/24/prison-rape-and-government/?pagination=false
Incidentally, does anyone have comparable figures for UK prisons?0 -
Thank you. Fairly impressive though to start one with 'What a load of bollocks'RobD said:
Quoting snafus happen to the best of us!kjh said:Whoops kle4 my apologies. I didn't write from 'what a load of' to 'he means it'
Sounds like I was being rude to you, but I just can't cut and paste properly.
I was actually thanking you. Oh dear!0 -
They were a long way behind Labour in terms of vote share.ThreeQuidder said:
Out of the parties that won exactly one seat, they were the closest to winning a second.RobD said:
They were third in 2015, unfortunately.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week0 -
Many of the same wankers I'd imagine..TheScreamingEagles said:So what he's saying is, Breitbart's got more wankers than Pornhub? Shocked by that.
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The area by the throne is not technically part of the House of Lords so I believe any MP can loiter there with or without intent.CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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Mrs May has upset LeftFootForward.....so it was probably a good idea.....
https://leftfootforward.org/2017/02/whats-theresa-may-doing-in-the-house-of-lords/0 -
Wikipedia says that bit is for Privy Councillors only.JohnO said:
The area by the throne is not technically part of the House of Lords so I believe any MP can loiter there with or without intent.CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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Never doubt Wiki's infallibity!RobD said:
Wikipedia says that bit is for Privy Councillors only.JohnO said:
The area by the throne is not technically part of the House of Lords so I believe any MP can loiter there with or without intent.CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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Freakonomics put it down to the legalisation / normalisation of abortion...JosiasJessop said:
Obama. And as the article (and others) show, the crime figures over his period in office are mixed. Better in some cities, worse in others, but with generally low figures.ThreeQuidder said:
Who was president for the last 8 years?JosiasJessop said:
Yet the first paragraph of the report says: "even as crime nationally is near historic lows."PlatoSaid said:Dear Obama
Wall Street Journal
Murder rates in Chicago, Baltimore, Milwaukee and Memphis have returned to levels not seen since the 1990s https://t.co/Rzw0lYHrDY
The story is much more complex than can be detailed in a tweet, or in your stupidly pointless two-word addition.
I'm unsure why you appear to wish to blame Obama for this. You might want to at least partially blame the gun-obsessed Republicans.
In fact, congratulating or blaming any president might be rather silly, as there are long-term falls that might have little directly to do with federal policy. As an example:
http://www.aei.org/publication/us-violent-crime-is-lowest-in-44-years-and-half-the-rate-in-1991-so-why-have-we-become-the-united-states-of-swat/
This is rather interesting, as the UK charts seem remarkably similar. What happened in the early- to mid-nineties that may have changed behaviour?
t'Internet? A lag from the banning of leaded petrol?
(Roe vs Wade was 1973)0 -
She has a country to run? I thought she had to delegate more?CarlottaVance said:Mrs May has upset LeftFootForward.....so it was probably a good idea.....
https://leftfootforward.org/2017/02/whats-theresa-may-doing-in-the-house-of-lords/0 -
There's a gallery for MPs, or they can watch from the bar. I didn't know that Privy Councillors can actually take a seat there?CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
I still think it's a very British quirk that the only person not permitted to set foot in the House of Commons is the Queen. Trump? Sure. Putin? Certainly. The Queen? Heavens, no.0 -
I think Nuttall wrote that sectionJohnO said:
Never doubt Wiki's infallibity!RobD said:
Wikipedia says that bit is for Privy Councillors only.JohnO said:
The area by the throne is not technically part of the House of Lords so I believe any MP can loiter there with or without intent.CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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Westminster Hall debate on the Trump petitions:
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/85c7c283-d353-4863-8628-3a012a80b2f50 -
Can you blame her for not going? The commons is so drab...NickPalmer said:
There's a gallery for MPs, or they can watch from the bar. I didn't know that Privy Councillors can actually take a seat there?CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
I still think it's a very British quirk that the only person not permitted to set foot in the House of Commons is the Queen. Trump? Sure. Putin? Certainly. The Queen? Heavens, no.0 -
A quick google search doesn't reveal very much.foxinsoxuk said:
Just as well that in America, no one lands in jail for trivial reasons, or is on remand.Sean_F said:
Presumably that too is considered part of the punishment.foxinsoxuk said:
Though it does seem as if many of the rapes are staff on inmate rather than inmate on inmate:TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago I read a report on American prisons, and the view of American prison officers was that prison rape was one of those things prisoners had to deal with. If they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't commit crimes.foxinsoxuk said:
Interesting fact that I heard the other day. USA is the only country where the reported rape rate of males is higher than females. Apparently this is accounted for by the very high incarceration rate in the USA.MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/24/prison-rape-and-government/?pagination=false
Incidentally, does anyone have comparable figures for UK prisons?
I think we lack the prison gang culture which helps to fuel rape, and our prison staff are much less vindictive than those in the US.0 -
They poll in Bearsdenkle4 said:
Why are these pollsters able to find Scon voters so easily?CarlottaVance said:Scottish Tory Surge Klaxon Alert
Scotland
Con: 31
Lab: 20
SNP: 38
LibD: 5
UKIP: 3
Green:3
(Health warning, base size 145...)0 -
Some of @GOsborneGenius' tweets on Corbyn are very funny:
@SpaJw @andrewspoooner @JolyonGreen Labours best hope is now an allotment shed fire.
@keiranpedley If they set out to find 1000 people who rate Corbyn then there has to be a 10,000 sample size.
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Which, in our system, matters not a jot...RobD said:
They were a long way behind Labour in terms of vote share.ThreeQuidder said:
Out of the parties that won exactly one seat, they were the closest to winning a second.RobD said:
They were third in 2015, unfortunately.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week0 -
At the same time ?!Sean_F said:
Yes, it's considered part of the punishment.TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago I read a report on American prisons, and the view of American prison officers was that prison rape was one of those things prisoners had to deal with. If they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't commit crimes.foxinsoxuk said:
Interesting fact that I heard the other day. USA is the only country where the reported rape rate of males is higher than females. Apparently this is accounted for by the very high incarceration rate in the USA.MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
Some US prisons sound like hellholes. Both the ones where you get raped by the other inmates, and the ones where you get locked up in solitary confinement in sound-proofed cells.0 -
"You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?"kjh said:
But surely it is the job of the media to report and interpret, not to print verbatim; they are not just taking minutes.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
I heard what he said re Sweden. True he did not say a terrorist attack, but he did refer to what had just happened. An event that had just occurred while talking about the dangers of uncontroled immigation. What event was this then?
You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?
You object to media interpreting what he is saying yet you are suggesting we are to interpret his meanings like you do or he is setting deliberate traps with his words that the left fall into.
Aren't there logical contradictions there.
Plato's injunction against mindreading obviously doesn't apply to herself.
It's also quite amusing, given the number of Trump supporters (Plato included ?) who've told us not to take his (weird) utterances >literally< to now be told that we should content ourselves with the media merely being presidential stenographers.
Equally puzzled by the Trump utterances was the Swedish government itself. Should they not be allowed an opinion either ?
I guess if you start from the assumption that Trump is omniscient, then it all makes sense....0 -
CCHQ have been emailing me since Christmas every day nagging me about the opportunity in Copeland. They stopped last Thursday. I sense they have given up. 2 Labour holds0
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That's Pope Paul VII to you.RobD said:
I think Nuttall wrote that sectionJohnO said:
Never doubt Wiki's infallibity!RobD said:
Wikipedia says that bit is for Privy Councillors only.JohnO said:
The area by the throne is not technically part of the House of Lords so I believe any MP can loiter there with or without intent.CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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So down to the Democrats? :-)Charles said:
Freakonomics put it down to the legalisation / normalisation of abortion...JosiasJessop said:
Obama. And as the article (and others) show, the crime figures over his period in office are mixed. Better in some cities, worse in others, but with generally low figures.ThreeQuidder said:
Who was president for the last 8 years?JosiasJessop said:
Yet the first paragraph of the report says: "even as crime nationally is near historic lows."PlatoSaid said:Dear Obama
Wall Street Journal
Murder rates in Chicago, Baltimore, Milwaukee and Memphis have returned to levels not seen since the 1990s https://t.co/Rzw0lYHrDY
The story is much more complex than can be detailed in a tweet, or in your stupidly pointless two-word addition.
I'm unsure why you appear to wish to blame Obama for this. You might want to at least partially blame the gun-obsessed Republicans.
In fact, congratulating or blaming any president might be rather silly, as there are long-term falls that might have little directly to do with federal policy. As an example:
http://www.aei.org/publication/us-violent-crime-is-lowest-in-44-years-and-half-the-rate-in-1991-so-why-have-we-become-the-united-states-of-swat/
This is rather interesting, as the UK charts seem remarkably similar. What happened in the early- to mid-nineties that may have changed behaviour?
t'Internet? A lag from the banning of leaded petrol?
(Roe vs Wade was 1973)
Presumably we could compare restrictive vs pro-choice states.
Though the interesting crime trend in the US is the rise of drug addiction and related crimes across Red State America.
Overall there does seem to be very little correlation of crime trend by political party:
http://www.movoto.com/blog/opinions/crime-maps-over-time/amp/0 -
See Ladbrokes: Cons NOW only 6-1 to win Stoke. Odds on UKIP suspended, what is happening?0
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My Son just got back from Sweden. Lots of no go areas now. Ambulances only go with Police. Trump, as always is right. Fake news protects Undemocratic liberal eliteNigelb said:
"You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?"kjh said:
But surely it is the job of the media to report and interpret, not to print verbatim; they are not just taking minutes.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
I heard what he said re Sweden. True he did not say a terrorist attack, but he did refer to what had just happened. An event that had just occurred while talking about the dangers of uncontroled immigation. What event was this then?
You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?
You object to media interpreting what he is saying yet you are suggesting we are to interpret his meanings like you do or he is setting deliberate traps with his words that the left fall into.
Aren't there logical contradictions there.
Plato's injunction against mindreading obviously doesn't apply to herself.
It's also quite amusing, given the number of Trump supporters (Plato included ?) who've told us not to take his (weird) utterances >literally< to now be told that we should content ourselves with the media merely being presidential stenographers.
Equally puzzled by the Trump utterances was the Swedish government itself. Should they not be allowed an opinion either ?
I guess if you start from the assumption that Trump is omniscient, then it all makes sense....0 -
I didn't realise that you could simultaneously be the Pope and Archbishop of CanterburyJohnO said:
That's Pope Paul VII to you.RobD said:
I think Nuttall wrote that sectionJohnO said:
Never doubt Wiki's infallibity!RobD said:
Wikipedia says that bit is for Privy Councillors only.JohnO said:
The area by the throne is not technically part of the House of Lords so I believe any MP can loiter there with or without intent.CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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On the steps of the throneNickPalmer said:
There's a gallery for MPs, or they can watch from the bar. I didn't know that Privy Councillors can actually take a seat there?CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/20/truth-sweden-immigration-strong-generous-country-struggling/Dixie said:
My Son just got back from Sweden. Lots of no go areas now. Ambulances only go with Police. Trump, as always is right. Fake news protects Undemocratic liberal eliteNigelb said:
"You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?"kjh said:
But surely it is the job of the media to report and interpret, not to print verbatim; they are not just taking minutes.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
I heard what he said re Sweden. True he did not say a terrorist attack, but he did refer to what had just happened. An event that had just occurred while talking about the dangers of uncontroled immigation. What event was this then?
You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?
You object to media interpreting what he is saying yet you are suggesting we are to interpret his meanings like you do or he is setting deliberate traps with his words that the left fall into.
Aren't there logical contradictions there.
Plato's injunction against mindreading obviously doesn't apply to herself.
It's also quite amusing, given the number of Trump supporters (Plato included ?) who've told us not to take his (weird) utterances >literally< to now be told that we should content ourselves with the media merely being presidential stenographers.
Equally puzzled by the Trump utterances was the Swedish government itself. Should they not be allowed an opinion either ?
I guess if you start from the assumption that Trump is omniscient, then it all makes sense....
from the Centre-left Telegraph0 -
Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.0 -
Morris_Dancer said:
Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.0 -
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.0 -
Could be talking about two separate places?ThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.0 -
Lolz.ThreeQuidder said:
Which, in our system, matters not a jot...RobD said:
They were a long way behind Labour in terms of vote share.ThreeQuidder said:
Out of the parties that won exactly one seat, they were the closest to winning a second.RobD said:
They were third in 2015, unfortunately.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week
'What's that you say, I'm speaking out of my backside? Let me see if I can alter the pitch of the emanations from my butt to see if that will change your mind.'0 -
Mr. Dixie, in that case, I do wonder about Swedish politics. People in such a densely populated area (or nearby, at least) will certainly be aware of the truth, even if there's an attempt to cover it up.
*sighs* Sweden's naive generosity appears to have caused drastic, perhaps permanent, damage.
Cameron's approach to the migrant crisis was spot on. A shame Merkel was letting her heart do the thinking whilst her brain was on holiday.0 -
Those stats are so old they almost go back to Viking times....not sure what that does to the rape stats (or the pillage stats, for that matter).MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
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Second equal in seats?RobD said:
They were third in 2015, unfortunately.ThreeQuidder said:
The Tories were the second party in Scotland even at the 2015 general election, and they've strengthened since then.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha , yes 1 MP a party makes right enough.Brom said:
With all due respect I think the Tories will take losing a few parish councils on low turnouts if they can win a big Westminster majority. The Lib Dems are the party for Richmond Park but these figures suggest the Tories are a national party (and that now includes Scotland).MarkSenior said:
Real elections Jan/Feb Con 20.5% Lib Dem 26.2%Brom said:Tories on 44%, Lib Dems on 8%. Wow!
Conservatives defended 7 seats in Jan/Feb held 2 lost 5 1 to Inds 4 to Lib Dems . 4 more seats being defended this week0 -
Ending 500 years of schism in a tea break was quite a feat.RobD said:
I didn't realise that you could simultaneously be the Pope and Archbishop of CanterburyJohnO said:
That's Pope Paul VII to you.RobD said:
I think Nuttall wrote that sectionJohnO said:
Never doubt Wiki's infallibity!RobD said:
Wikipedia says that bit is for Privy Councillors only.JohnO said:
The area by the throne is not technically part of the House of Lords so I believe any MP can loiter there with or without intent.CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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The lad is going back next week - he is in love - I will ask for more detail.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dixie, in that case, I do wonder about Swedish politics. People in such a densely populated area (or nearby, at least) will certainly be aware of the truth, even if there's an attempt to cover it up.
*sighs* Sweden's naive generosity appears to have caused drastic, perhaps permanent, damage.
Cameron's approach to the migrant crisis was spot on. A shame Merkel was letting her heart do the thinking whilst her brain was on holiday.0 -
As I recall Freakonomics had figures showing the fall in crime starting correspondingly earlier in states which legalised abortion before 1973.foxinsoxuk said:
So down to the Democrats? :-)Charles said:
Freakonomics put it down to the legalisation / normalisation of abortion...JosiasJessop said:
Obama. And as the article (and others) show, the crime figures over his period in office are mixed. Better in some cities, worse in others, but with generally low figures.ThreeQuidder said:
Who was president for the last 8 years?JosiasJessop said:
Yet the first paragraph of the report says: "even as crime nationally is near historic lows."PlatoSaid said:Dear Obama
Wall Street Journal
Murder rates in Chicago, Baltimore, Milwaukee and Memphis have returned to levels not seen since the 1990s https://t.co/Rzw0lYHrDY
The story is much more complex than can be detailed in a tweet, or in your stupidly pointless two-word addition.
I'm unsure why you appear to wish to blame Obama for this. You might want to at least partially blame the gun-obsessed Republicans.
In fact, congratulating or blaming any president might be rather silly, as there are long-term falls that might have little directly to do with federal policy. As an example:
http://www.aei.org/publication/us-violent-crime-is-lowest-in-44-years-and-half-the-rate-in-1991-so-why-have-we-become-the-united-states-of-swat/
This is rather interesting, as the UK charts seem remarkably similar. What happened in the early- to mid-nineties that may have changed behaviour?
t'Internet? A lag from the banning of leaded petrol?
(Roe vs Wade was 1973)
Presumably we could compare restrictive vs pro-choice states.
Though the interesting crime trend in the US is the rise of drug addiction and related crimes across Red State America.
Overall there does seem to be very little correlation of crime trend by political party:
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But it wasn't that either, and the links are hardly conclusive.RobD said:
He did the same with Clinton and uranium. The fact checkers went into overdrive saying he lied, and that she didn't give away 20% of the US supply of uranium. No they cried, she gave away 20% of the US production of uranium.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
Still, it's not as funny as Plato's claim that it was plutonium ...0 -
Indeed, you are quite correct. Our right wing politicians have lost control of their senses. Mrs May is great.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dixie, in that case, I do wonder about Swedish politics. People in such a densely populated area (or nearby, at least) will certainly be aware of the truth, even if there's an attempt to cover it up.
*sighs* Sweden's naive generosity appears to have caused drastic, perhaps permanent, damage.
Cameron's approach to the migrant crisis was spot on. A shame Merkel was letting her heart do the thinking whilst her brain was on holiday.0 -
So it's not just hearsay from an anonymous bloke on t'internet nor hearsay from his anonymous son who was visiting Sweden, it's hearsay from his anonymous son's anonymous friends in Sweden.Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
That's me convinced.0 -
It's where they have put the immigrants, apparentlyThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.0 -
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I will ask for info. Still, if the real Donald says it, and an anonymous person with a anonymous son and the Telegraph...then it must be true!Theuniondivvie said:
So it's not just hearsay from an anonymous bloke on t'internet nor hearsay from his anonymous son who was visiting Sweden, it's hearsay from his anonymous son's anonymous friends in Sweden.Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
That's me convinced.0 -
"Reflections on the Revolution in Europe" was talking about the problem of immigration and segregation in Sweden 8-9 years agoDixie said:
It's where they have put the immigrants, apparentlyThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.0 -
The Labour Party poll about Corbyn will be no use unless they also poll alternatives to see if any of them are more positive. If not, stick with Corbyn.0
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understandably. Muslin men were asking that blonde women cover up. Mental.isam said:
"Reflections on the Revolution in Europe" was talking about the problem of immigration and segregation in Sweden 8-9 years agoDixie said:
It's where they have put the immigrants, apparentlyThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.0 -
One of the issues in the Nordic countries is the big gap in employment rates between the native born and non-native born (something mercifully Britain does better at):ThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/8337156907082874910 -
Bath Chronicle conduced survey in February if voters changed minds in Bath since the Referendum, result below:-:
14% of Out Voters now changed to Remain
2% of Remain now Out.
I repeated nationally ...........
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A survey or a voodoo poll?theakes said:Bath Chronicle conduced survey in February if voters changed minds in Bath since the Referendum, result below:-:
14% of Out Voters now changed to Remain
2% of Remain now Out.
I repeated nationally ...........
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Wallender must be very busy at present.Dixie said:
My Son just got back from Sweden. Lots of no go areas now. Ambulances only go with Police. Trump, as always is right. Fake news protects Undemocratic liberal eliteNigelb said:
"You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?"kjh said:
But surely it is the job of the media to report and interpret, not to print verbatim; they are not just taking minutes.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
I heard what he said re Sweden. True he did not say a terrorist attack, but he did refer to what had just happened. An event that had just occurred while talking about the dangers of uncontroled immigation. What event was this then?
You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?
You object to media interpreting what he is saying yet you are suggesting we are to interpret his meanings like you do or he is setting deliberate traps with his words that the left fall into.
Aren't there logical contradictions there.
Plato's injunction against mindreading obviously doesn't apply to herself.
It's also quite amusing, given the number of Trump supporters (Plato included ?) who've told us not to take his (weird) utterances >literally< to now be told that we should content ourselves with the media merely being presidential stenographers.
Equally puzzled by the Trump utterances was the Swedish government itself. Should they not be allowed an opinion either ?
I guess if you start from the assumption that Trump is omniscient, then it all makes sense....
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I did that trick at 33s yesterday, Boylesports have decided that their particular £3 has made me ineligible for all of their footie and racing offers.DeClare said:
They'd rather reserve those for the 98% of overall losing gamblers I guess ^_~ (Not that I have much of an idea about footie or racing other than the old back the 2nd or 3rd favourite against the short priced novice in an 8 way race each way.... )0 -
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The Swedish issues have been ongoing for years now.
2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22650267
2016 https://www.rt.com/news/337334-stockholm-migrant-suburb-riots-fire/
Then the French ones.
2017 http://www.france24.com/en/20170218-french-protests-against-police-violence-move-central-paris
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I believe the argument is she had to sign off on the deal as Secretary of State. Agree it is tenuous, but it has gone from a story hardly anyone knew about to be splashed all over the internet.JosiasJessop said:
But it wasn't that either, and the links are hardly conclusive.RobD said:
He did the same with Clinton and uranium. The fact checkers went into overdrive saying he lied, and that she didn't give away 20% of the US supply of uranium. No they cried, she gave away 20% of the US production of uranium.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
Still, it's not as funny as Plato's claim that it was plutonium ...0 -
Low turnout, postal voting usually good for Tories, national figure for Tories good, local candidate, but most of all UKIPers going blue.theakes said:See Ladbrokes: Cons NOW only 6-1 to win Stoke. Odds on UKIP suspended, what is happening?
I am feeling quite comfortable about my 8/1 with Shadsy on kippers less than 20%. 4th place at 10/1 looks OK too.
In Stoke I laid Kippers, but have my best position on a Tory win.0 -
If the Tories are seriously going to come within a sniff in Stoke then it isn't 1983 Labour are looking at for a historical parallel, it is Arthur Henderson's 1931 result.0
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Including Assange, allegedly...MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts
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This might be because of the language barrier, many people around the world can speak enough English to get by in the UK or US, but few people outside Scandinavia can speak enough of their languages to land a job there.CarlottaVance said:
One of the issues in the Nordic countries is the big gap in employment rates between the native born and non-native born (something mercifully Britain does better at):ThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/8337156907082874910 -
Don't worry abou tit.kjh said:Whoops kle4 my apologies. I didn't write from 'what a load of' to 'he means it'
Sounds like I was being rude to you, but I just can't cut and paste properly.
I was actually thanking you. Oh dear!
Edit - that's 'don't worry about it', not a mispelling of 'don't worry you tit'0 -
Jesus christ. We've all probably, in a moment of weakness, considered that if someone bad has bad things happen to them in prison, that's justice, but I'd hope when reflecting, like in a report, that wouldn't come out.TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago I read a report on American prisons, and the view of American prison officers was that prison rape was one of those things prisoners had to deal with. If they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't commit crimes.foxinsoxuk said:
Interesting fact that I heard the other day. USA is the only country where the reported rape rate of males is higher than females. Apparently this is accounted for by the very high incarceration rate in the USA.MonikerDiCanio said:
Someone's doing the raping ;PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/we-should-practice-truth-statistics-even-when-it-hurts0 -
Actually I've often thought that. Put a back on those cushions at least!TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
He always is. Like 'Death in Paradise', where one person per week gets murdered in tiny town!David_Evershed said:
Wallender must be very busy at present.Dixie said:
My Son just got back from Sweden. Lots of no go areas now. Ambulances only go with Police. Trump, as always is right. Fake news protects Undemocratic liberal eliteNigelb said:
"You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?"kjh said:
But surely it is the job of the media to report and interpret, not to print verbatim; they are not just taking minutes.PlatoSaid said:
That the MSM pervert his words to mean what they want - in preference to reporting them.kjh said:
The whole MSM tone is to insult him as stupid, and his voters. I've seen a dozen UK MSM claim he lied about a Swedish terrorist attack - he never said anything like this - but they're glorying in a strawman they made up to knock him.
He brought up Sweden to prod millions into Googling it. And yet again, it worked.
Anyone daft enough to believe what the MSM say is naive.
I heard what he said re Sweden. True he did not say a terrorist attack, but he did refer to what had just happened. An event that had just occurred while talking about the dangers of uncontroled immigation. What event was this then?
You say he brought up Sweden to prod millions into googling it. How do you know that and why?
You object to media interpreting what he is saying yet you are suggesting we are to interpret his meanings like you do or he is setting deliberate traps with his words that the left fall into.
Aren't there logical contradictions there.
Plato's injunction against mindreading obviously doesn't apply to herself.
It's also quite amusing, given the number of Trump supporters (Plato included ?) who've told us not to take his (weird) utterances >literally< to now be told that we should content ourselves with the media merely being presidential stenographers.
Equally puzzled by the Trump utterances was the Swedish government itself. Should they not be allowed an opinion either ?
I guess if you start from the assumption that Trump is omniscient, then it all makes sense....0 -
I hope the same courtesy extends to Lords into the Commons. To Erskine May!CarlottaVance said:
Privy Councillors are allowed in....SimonStClare said:
Is it the norm to allow Commons MPs in the House of Lords during a debate? - Et al.CarlottaVance said:ttps://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/833708865887809537
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Final weekend poster/billboard count from Stoke . Still very few posters up numbers seen
Lab circa 50
LDem circa 20
UKIP 2
Anti UKIP 2
Con 00 -
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Bath was overwhelmingly Remain....14% of not a lot is not a lot.theakes said:Bath Chronicle conduced survey in February if voters changed minds in Bath since the Referendum, result below:-:
14% of Out Voters now changed to Remain
2% of Remain now Out.
I repeated nationally ...........0 -
Mostly. I still think we can take more than we said we would, but his approach was far more sensible.Morris_Dancer said:
Cameron's approach to the migrant crisis was spot on.0 -
Interesting - was that all over, or were you mainly in the Hanley Park & Shelton ward/Penkhull (Which looks to me where the Lib Dem vote might be best)MarkSenior said:Final weekend poster/billboard count from Stoke . Still very few posters up numbers seen
Lab circa 50
LDem circa 20
UKIP 2
Anti UKIP 2
Con 00 -
what will it mean?MarkSenior said:Final weekend poster/billboard count from Stoke . Still very few posters up numbers seen
Lab circa 50
LDem circa 20
UKIP 2
Anti UKIP 2
Con 00 -
Any word on how many plane tickets wee pretendy Milo has coughed up for so far?
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Alex Salmond lecturing Mrs May on 'fawning subservience' to Donald Trump......no hostages to fortune here, no siree!0
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Amazing what a truncated axis does!CarlottaVance said:
One of the issues in the Nordic countries is the big gap in employment rates between the native born and non-native born (something mercifully Britain does better at):ThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/833715690708287491
Though worth noting that the employment rate of Swedish migrants is nearly bang on the same as native born Americans.
Perhaps the socially conservative, workshy, quick to anger, native born Americans have more in common with Swedish immigrants than they care to admit!0 -
Miss Plato, if we're using gamer analogies, Labour have nerfed themselves with every new leader.0
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hilariousCarlottaVance said:Alex Salmond lecturing Mrs May on 'fawning subservience' to Donald Trump......no hostages to fortune here, no siree!
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Tim Pool @Timcast 22m22 minutes agoTheuniondivvie said:Any word on how many plane tickets wee pretendy Milo has coughed up for so far?
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/833648208249249793
Tim Pool Retweeted Paul Joseph Watson
Thanks to @PrisonPlanet for following through on his offer to fund journalism in Sweden. We will be there very soon.0 -
I don't see what is wrong with the truncated axis when the whole point is to look at the differences between the two sets?foxinsoxuk said:
Amazing what a truncated axis does!CarlottaVance said:
One of the issues in the Nordic countries is the big gap in employment rates between the native born and non-native born (something mercifully Britain does better at):ThreeQuidder said:
Interesting, since Stockholm and Malmo are about 4 hours apart?Dixie said:Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
20 minutes outside Stockholm and Malmo his friends tell him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, anyone who got on the blues at 51 will be feeling rather splendid. Although surely the Popebishop of Romebury will win?
Mr. Dixie, which part of Sweden? Just curious.
twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/833715690708287491
Though worth noting that the employment rate of Swedish migrants is nearly bang on the same as native born Americans.
Perhaps the socially conservative, workshy, quick to anger, native born Americans have more in common with Swedish immigrants than they care to admit!0 -
He ain't wrong about Malmo...its a shit hole.Theuniondivvie said:Any word on how many plane tickets wee pretendy Milo has coughed up for so far?
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/8336482082492497930